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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 1:21am On Dec 23, 2020
op u said u have been dating her for three good years before u left nigeria.so u suppose don know the type of woman she be nau.nobody can give u any good advice on this one.Its not like she is total stranger and was arranged by ur parents or friends.This one na woman wey u know for three years.If it was a stranger arranged by ur family in nigeria then i go say risk dey but since u say and this girl don main for three years na u go know the type of woman she is and weda it would be wise to invite her over or let her stay back in naija.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by osazsky(m): 1:29am On Dec 23, 2020
pozehnani:
Childish behavior. Why the fend for yourself idea when you plan to marry her?
She should dump you and never look back because your type can make marriage hellish for a woman.

This mentality of yours is so bad and it will make you lose a lot. You better drop it before aze wunyen a gba gi there.
guy way get money na him they dump babe but if the guy is poor. racheed imbalanced jobless with moustache na babe they dump that one pls let know how to arange our words and comment.this is s public forum. Pls modify the statenent thks
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by thecommunist(m): 1:30am On Dec 23, 2020
Going by the numerous cases of disgruntled US based Nigerian husbands killing off thier overbearing wives that they sponsored to the US, I would advice you to marry her...but make sure you guys sign a prenuptial agreement. Peace be until you.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by SamNaijaboy: 1:40am On Dec 23, 2020
This one no be man grin


Neoteny:
Compensate her for the 3 years of her life you've wasted then leave her the fukk alone, you conceited POS.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by tunapawizzy: 1:44am On Dec 23, 2020
Obviously you do not like her enough to marry her OR in ur mind u r not ready for marriage, and that is very okay. What is not okay is if you continue wasting her time. And its funny how lots of men here ( both d ones abroad n at home) think u should not do it. Its d same reasoning on all platforms u can think of. Be like naija babes cup dun full

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by SamNaijaboy: 1:44am On Dec 23, 2020
LOL.
All you guys talking about pre-nup are un-informed. A Nigerian pre-nup will be invalidated with the wave of a hand by a US judge.
I. It was under foreign laws
2. She will claim duress when signing and he will agree with her just because....
3. White men and women like to Bleep up black men
4. Any document from Nigeria is typically viewed with suspicion.


Any reason she uses, and your pre-nup will be tossed out especially if not done in that state or a state of the US.

Only marry her after she meets you by her own efforts in USA and after she gets an H1-B visa after proving herself. She will value the green card you are giving her.



thecommunist:
Going by the numerous cases of disgruntled US based Nigerian husbands killing off thier overbearing wives that they sponsored to the US, I would advice you to marry her...but make sure you guys sign a prenuptial agreement. Peace be until you.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by juneman: 1:45am On Dec 23, 2020
What is wrong with supporting your friend and helping her. You are not a friend I know pple like you. If you cant marry her let her know and allow her pursue her own life..... have you seen anybody who made something out of their life exclusive of other people's help one way or the other. Selfish humanrice
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Sixfeetbelle: 1:51am On Dec 23, 2020
lefulefu:
op u said u have been dating her for three good years before u left nigeria.so u suppose don know the type of woman she be nau.nobody can give u any good advice on this one.Its not like she is total stranger and was arranged by ur parents or friends.This one na woman wey u know for three years.If it was a stranger arranged by ur family in nigeria then i go say risk dey but since u say and this girl don main for three years na u go know the type of woman she is and weda it would be wise to invite her over or let her stay back in naija.

This isn't even about love or marriage for this guy. It's about principles and when principled people are forced to compromise for someone, they may end up hating that person for life.

On a normal, he would have married her. But she isn't yet at the level he wants for her which is why he's hesitating. In years to come if she gets to that level, he will readily marry her but till that happens, he'd always hesitate about marrying her.

It's more like a Lecturer in the department of Medicine dating a jambite who wants to be a medical doctor but her jamb score is low for that department. Now normally, you can 'help' her cut off mark so she will be admitted into the dept based on say you're a lecturer there and because you love her, but because of his principles, if he helps her, she looses value in his eyes and his love may diminish.

So, people should stop advising him to marry her to help her come over. She'd be forever indebted to him that way and he'd never value her. He should break off things with her and go find a lady who's already has a visa and marry.

I would not advise the lady to marry him at all. She'd regret it in years to come.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by tunapawizzy: 1:53am On Dec 23, 2020
Yamiriflathead:


Do nigerian women also come back home to marry their boyfriend's of EX's?
I have never seen any such scenario all my LIFE
E dey happen....e no just plenty
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by emaopel: 1:56am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.
You seem to be very wicked person that you don't want better thing for your fellow human been...note that, you will surely need someone help in future... Any assistance in your to lift your fellow human being do it with good heart my submission
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by omoyankee3(m): 2:04am On Dec 23, 2020
You are not sure if you want to marry her or not and you want her to make an important life decision to relocate to another country. What if she moves to the US and you decide you don't want her no more? The woman wants assurance, give her assurance by marrying her else let her go.

Or are you already married in the US?

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by cooooooks(m): 2:06am On Dec 23, 2020
They've not been together for 3 years. They started talking for 1 year then immediately transitioned to long-distance for 2 years.

She should travel and study and if she does not like his approach, time-wasting, red pill consumption, she will be able to find someone else by herself.

Chii59:

After 3 years, you're not sure about marriage. May God drive your type far away from me. Amen
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Empiree: 2:07am On Dec 23, 2020
longetivity:
What if she gets over there and start doing u hanky panky. I mean you know how these vagina people behave

Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 2:13am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

After 3 years? Bros free that girl to find her destiny. You’re wasting her time. If you want friendship don’t be doing relationship. Find other friends and leave the girl to find husband.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Fa44me: 2:16am On Dec 23, 2020
Hummmm, bro USIAN. You should have included this point with the ones you listed above. 4. You will never approach a lady or woman for marriage.

Let me tell you, according to the Bible, 1+1=1. It's because she knew that you would not sponsor her education while you are still dating, that's why she made that suggestion. Because the person you get married to is no longer any woman, but your wife. Remember, the key to US has not been released to people like you. Your type will either dig the ground bury the key or throw it into the river. If you don't help or marry her to follow you to US, another person would do. You may even meet each other there. Who told you she can never do more than whatever you spend on her for you in the future being your wife? Or you want to tell us that things cannot change and that God cannot use her for you? When people fail to know God, they start misbehaving thinking what they achieved and whom they are is by their power, thereby setting ungodly and unreasonable principles which can make God to vent His anger on them for people they can not make. Bro, remove your rug and see how God will release tiles for you girlfriend, but then, you will be ashamed. Marrying her is the way if she's God's will for you. Your wife is not any woman, but your helper or helpmate. Take it or leave it. Shalom

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by SavageMaster: 2:24am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

Then let her go. You can't hold a lady down for an entire three years and still wondering about marriage with her. You're not being fair to her.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 2:24am On Dec 23, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


This isn't even about love or marriage for this guy. It's about principles and when principled people are forced to compromise for someone, they may end up hating that person for life.

On a normal, he would have married her. But she isn't yet at the level he wants for her which is why he's hesitating. In years to come if she gets to that level, he will readily marry her but till that happens, he'd always hesitate about marrying her.

It's more like a Lecturer in the department of Medicine dating a jambite who wants to be a medical doctor but her jamb score is low for that department. Now normally, you can 'help' her cut off mark so she will be admitted into the dept based on say you're a lecturer there and because you love her, but because of his principles, if he helps her, she looses value in his eyes and his love may diminish.

So, people should stop advising him to marry her to help her come over. She'd be forever indebted to him that way and he'd never value her. He should break off things with her and go find a lady who's already has a visa and marry.

I would not advise the lady to marry him at all. She'd regret it in years to come.
u have a good point here..though i wasnt advising him to marry her grin..i said since he has been with her for sometime he ought to know the type of woman she is character wise.Three years is enough for u to at least study a person and even if u cant predict the person hundred percent at least u would know certain things such a person can do.u dont need the advice of other ppl.This is one is not even an arranged relationship sef..like those ones who are based overseas and would tell their friends based on naija to look for a wife for them.This one has been with the woman for three years.This one would be like a guy dating a light skinned girl and someone out of the blue would tell him to leave that light skinned girl cos all light skinned girls are marine possessed and just like that the guy would dump his light skin girlfriend of many years cos his friend told him that light skin girls are marine spirit.Is such a man not foolish? cheesy

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by pansophist(m): 2:47am On Dec 23, 2020
LordKO:
From your far-reached resolution and connotation of your submission, you don't believe in altruism/love, then don't sponsor her immigration via a spousal visa. You'll be better off having a contract marriage with her or any other woman, for your peace of mind in particular and sanity of the both of you in general. I expect you to man up and tell her boldly that you don't believe in love, instead of taking to disingenuousness in relating with her, and allow her to decide whether or not to continue with whatever that exists between the two of you.

However, assuming that you're a proponent and practitioner of altruism/love, I don't see anything wrong in one sponsoring his fiancee or wife's immigration via a spousal visa; all the news about betrayal happening and flying around notwithstanding. The reason is simple, whatever cause I believe in, I give my best, and I don't condone anyone who doesn't meet my set ethical standard.

So, anyone I vetted and chose as a lover/wife, I've always accorded her the privilege of being part and parcel of me as a proponent of oneness, while staying a discerning step ahead of her, of course. You need to master the art of giving everything without losing anything and walking out like a boss when things turn sour.

Meanwhile, opportunism and its peripheral vice aren't female gender exclusive, because personally, in an issue like this, I have suffered more betrayal from fellow men; well, that's because they've been my major beneficiaries. My motto in this regard is simple, betray me, shame on you; outsmart me, shame on me.

Love remains a sign of strength, not weakness.


This is beautiful. Op, listen to this. I'll add to it though.

Three years should be enough for you to determine if she is worthy of a ring. It is from this point you should be considering to marry her or her coming over to the US through studies. If she choose to migrate through studies, then you should make it possible for her to achieve that to the best of your ability. If you find it difficult to assist her coming over to the US, then you have to revisit your heart and determine if you see a future with her. If not, release her, so she can meet her soulmate.

Furthermore, because immigration via the marriage option is cheaper, easier and assured doesn't mean you should jump into that option if you're not ready for marriage. Dont marry for pity, to assuage temporary discomfort or to appease anyone. If you have to be selfish about anything in life, it should be marriage, as that single decision will determine largely the direction your life will take. Marry when you're ready, and that you consider her worthy, not for visa, to make her happy, or whatever. Both of your interest must be aligned.

Which brought me to my last point. What are the reasons she doesn't want to come through studies ? If she can not afford it, then you should assist her if you can. Some rules don't make sense, and the idea that you cannot sponsor a woman is one of them. Love is not selfish, it is altruistic. If you can't spend on her, then go back to my first paragraph and ask yourself if you see her a wife material. Also, she should be willing to make sacrifices to make her life better, and studying is part of it. Why would she not want that? You should find out through other means that she doesn't see marriage as a place of living off the hustle of the other, without contributing her own sacrifices. It seems like she is not willing to make the necessary sacrifices for a better life by going to university, but expects you to do so for her. Investigate that.

Finally, lordko gave a nice quote which is worth thinking. He said that "betray me, your fault, outsmart me, my fault". You should integrate this quote in your plan. If I were you, I'll bring her over to the US via the study route. I can even go as far as paying, afterall, I can make money back. Then when she is in the US, time with her should determine if you should go ahead and marry her, and that your fears are not realised. If she betrays you after she gets to the US, then the money you spent should be seen as a necessary sacrifice needed to spare you from an absolute evil if you had used the marriage route to bring her over, but you will not be outsmarted that way, and the burden of guilt will be on her, not you. You can give, without actually loosing, and this is an example of it.

All the best to you.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Sixfeetbelle: 2:52am On Dec 23, 2020
lefulefu:
u have a good point here..though i wasnt advising him to marry her grin..i said since he has been with her for sometime he ought to know the type of woman she is character wise.Three years is enough for u to at least study a person and even if u cant predict the person hundred percent at least u would know certain things such a person can do.u dont need the advice of other ppl.This is one is not even an arranged relationship sef..like those ones who are based overseas and would tell their friends based on naija to look for a wife for them.This one has been with the woman for three years.This one would be like a guy dating a light skinned girl and someone out of the blue would tell him to leave that light skinned girl cos all light skinned girls are marine possessed and just like that the guy would dump his light skin girlfriend of many years cos his friend told him that light skin girls are marine spirit.Is such a man not foolish? cheesy

Some men don't know what they want sha
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by luscioustrish(f): 3:10am On Dec 23, 2020
Mindlog:
To cut the long short, since you are not even sure you want to marry the lady then redirect your energy on women around you there in the US who have finished Grad school and get yourself a bride.

At least it eliminates you sharing the tiring story of how ungrateful your Nigerian raised wife is after you relocated to her the US.

You are not her Messiah and stop feeling her future is in your hands.

Be open with her, so she can move on and focus her attention on other men.





This!!! Thank you kiss
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by candygirl4real: 3:13am On Dec 23, 2020
Na wa. By getting married to a lady and bringing her over to be ur wife.you have done her a favour. Its well
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by shege45: 3:16am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:
The recent topic on the home page motivated me to make this post, anonymously of course.

We were dating before I left Nigeria. We've been dating for about three years. Sometime last year I got a new job in the US (I schooled there so it was easy), and moved away from the country. Until a few weeks ago, we talked nearly every other day. It's always fun talking to her. But lately, things have started to get a little rough because of something that came up, and which I would like to believe is not my fault.

Prior to dating her, since I was a kid in university, I made myself a few promises relating to women:

1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.

Of course, this does not mean that I won't buy a woman gifts (I do that regularly), or take her on a nice trip. I just do not envisage myself pulling a woman up the social ladder. I prefer she makes her own growth moves as it relates to finances or relocation.

I made these promises based on the fact that I expected that whomever I make a partner should be able to make something of their own selves. I do not want to be anybody's savior or anyone's get-out-of-jail card. This resolution has made lose a few women in the past who thought the relationship should be based on what they can get out of it, and my girlfriend knows this.

The situation right now is that there is a path for her to come to America through studying. We already talked about her applying for graduate studies and then transitioning here into a better job. However, she now feels that would be stressful and may not work. Instead, she thinks it's better if I return to Nigeria this December to marry her and then sponsor her eventually to the US. That's not going to happen. This has created a rift and we have not been talking for a while now.

Am I being unreasonable here? How can I make her realize she can be her own person and not have to depend on someone else to "sponsor" her? It just drives me nuts that she knows this about me but is now vehemently insisting that this is the only viable option.
u no serious.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by adetayoonas(m): 3:37am On Dec 23, 2020
amliftedhigher:
Leave her in Nigeria, I repeat leave her in Nigeria.
By the time she join a women association called "make husband burn" by then you will know your fate.



Wow is this real
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by madjune(m): 4:01am On Dec 23, 2020
SamNaijaboy:
Sacrifice Ko, Sacrificial lamb ni grin

If roles were reversed, would she sacrifice? always looking for men to spend and work for you. How many Nigerian women have ever bought anything more than $100 for their men, yet will be looking for cars and gifts & things costing $10,000. You think we are going to be dumb forever?
Keep your one-sided love dear

Well, you have a point too.
But then, it depends on the sort of girls around you...and the sort you attract.
The girl in question may be equally cold, rude, selfish and uncaring and to that, I'd say, let her rot where she is.

But truly, there well meaning girls worthy of love and who have family oriented values.
These are the ones I speak for.


Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Iree1(m): 4:20am On Dec 23, 2020
Are u principles majorly for the women... Or for both genders? No one is an island, we all need oursleve to survive bro.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Revolva(m): 4:28am On Dec 23, 2020
AS YOU SAY YOU CANT DO THESE THREE THINGS

[quote1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.][/quote]

THEN WHY BRING HER TO USA...I PITY YOU..SHE GO LEAVE YOU...FOR ANOTHR MAN TRUST NO WOMAN
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by deltateam: 4:51am On Dec 23, 2020
thorpido:
Do you want to marry her?

If you desire her as a partner and you are old enough and ready to settle down,why is marrying her and bringing her abroad an issue? Isn't she going to be a part of you and you grow together?

What will she be doing abroad?

She wants to be a leech and probably take the option of easing op out like the norm.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by favour32(m): 4:51am On Dec 23, 2020
Life is simply but only some humans make it complex.
Rigidity is sometimes not helpful.
Either you like to love or not and not in between because it is not acceptable.
Change your rules.
If you are in love, you can uplift your partner if you are capable.
Except being egocentric, there's no big deal helping your girlfriend traveling out of this shithole.
If you insist on your rules, therefore,,break the relationship ASAP as both are mutually exclusive.
Na so e be.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by deltateam: 4:53am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

Is she hardworking? Does she take care of her bills or dependent.

Don't tell me you are not already seeing signs of laziness and dependency in her but you are wishing it away until you don't.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by deltateam: 4:55am On Dec 23, 2020
GboyegaD:
Oga, do you intend marrying her? If yes, why not do the marriage? Let her come in on the spousal visa of the class you are on and then pursue the graduate admission you want her to have.

The key should be do you trust her and love her enough to be your wife and also, is she responsible enough not to misbehave?

What if she loses interest in the study upon arrival?

That girl is smart though. I give it to her.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by jaxxy(m): 4:59am On Dec 23, 2020
GboyegaD:
Oga, do you intend marrying her? If yes, why not do the marriage? Let her come in on the spousal visa of the class you are on and then pursue the graduate admission you want her to have.

The key should be do you trust her and love her enough to be your wife and also, is she responsible enough not to misbehave?

When u are bringing everything to the table and the other party isn’t doing much trust and love can be a delicate and confusing word. I can see his fears from a distance and they are valid looking at the ladies already assumed mindset.


1.How does she know he will marry her b4 concluding he shud come this December and marry her like it’s been programmed smwhere?

2. will she be cool if he marries her bt doesn’t bring her over??

3. I do not believe people shud force their partners at gun point to do their bidding that’s deceptive. Let them decide freely not under duress.

4. There cud be certain tendencies she has based on this conclusion of him breaking his principles for her and if it backfires he will blame himself.

5. As a principled person myself, there is a principle of never break ur known principle for sm1 who hasn’t or can’t break their principle for u. It will almost always be regretted.

So I have a concern with him breaking his principle for her which she clearly knows cos he’s previously shared this with her. She shud rather strive to make him not break it if it means more to him. Now if he must break it which he can it shud be his complete will or decision with no pressures directly or indirectly.

canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

Everybody is asking u do u love her bla bla bla and want to marry her bt I think the real question is does she love u?? I don’t want to sound paranoid bt if ure doing every little thing for her then it’s going to be pretty hard to know the real answer to that question. Unless she has totally proven her unconditional love for u cos it looks very conditional based on this particular story line. Ur principles shud always be respected till u choose to break them urself for whoever especially since u shared it with her from the get go of the relationship and she agreed to it.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by bezimo(m): 5:05am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:
The recent topic on the home page motivated me to make this post, anonymously of course.

We were dating before I left Nigeria. We've been dating for about three years. Sometime last year I got a new job in the US (I schooled there so it was easy), and moved away from the country. Until a few weeks ago, we talked nearly every other day. It's always fun talking to her. But lately, things have started to get a little rough because of something that came up, and which I would like to believe is not my fault.

Prior to dating her, since I was a kid in university, I made myself a few promises relating to women:

1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.

Of course, this does not mean that I won't buy a woman gifts (I do that regularly), or take her on a nice trip. I just do not envisage myself pulling a woman up the social ladder. I prefer she makes her own growth moves as it relates to finances or relocation.

I made these promises based on the fact that I expected that whomever I make a partner should be able to make something of their own selves. I do not want to be anybody's savior or anyone's get-out-of-jail card. This resolution has made lose a few women in the past who thought the relationship should be based on what they can get out of it, and my girlfriend knows this.

The situation right now is that there is a path for her to come to America through studying. We already talked about her applying for graduate studies and then transitioning here into a better job. However, she now feels that would be stressful and may not work. Instead, she thinks it's better if I return to Nigeria this December to marry her and then sponsor her eventually to the US. That's not going to happen. This has created a rift and we have not been talking for a while now.

Am I being unreasonable here? How can I make her realize she can be her own person and not have to depend on someone else to "sponsor" her? It just drives me nuts that she knows this about me but is now vehemently insisting that this is the only viable option.

That's why she is dating you..I bet you once she arrives the US you will see a different person who will give you shit like we have seen in many cases. she is already creating drama feeling self entitled and she hasn't come yet oh..See guy.Don't sponsor her..if she wanna go..let her go.

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