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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Pat081: 6:51am On Dec 23, 2020
It may b two ways, she may be urs or other way around when she met some bigs 9ja gals who will b telling her what she can do
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by LadyTianna(f): 6:53am On Dec 23, 2020
RedPanthar:
Stop inviting third party to your relationship issues. Watch expect 95% toxicity on this thread.


Stop seeking validation and do what you must do
Lol so someone who told a father to deprive his child of love can give good advice...I'm shocked
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Toks2008(m): 6:53am On Dec 23, 2020
Idonije8:
You nor see woman marry there?? Too many stories about men helping their girlfriends to America then along the line something happened if I was you I will marry someone there preferably a white sweet lady grin : abeg leave this Nigeria girls they are so ungrateful when they finally get what they want
Have you ever wondered why Nigerian. Men usually come home to marry?

It is because the probability of getting. Suitable lady is very low.

Trust me, there are hardly good ladies out there to settle with whether white or black

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Idonije8(m): 6:58am On Dec 23, 2020
Jaqenhghar:

..and its white girls that dont have wahala abi. You guys are so naive. You say Nigerian girls will take everything. White girls wont take anything you think?
I prefer a white to take everything than to see a woman I brought from Nigeria to kill me!! There are too much stories about Nigerian ladies showing their true color when they arrive abroad!! Abeg he should even find a baby mama lol grin

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Toks2008(m): 6:59am On Dec 23, 2020
Curiouscity:
I did this about 7 years ago. I live in deep regrets everyday. My marriage may likely end soonest!

Were you both dating in Naija before you travelled out or did you meet her when you wede aleady outside naija?

I have made a careful observation and all my Friends who were dating their ladies in naija before they travelled are still having a wonderful union with their women years after they brought them in but you see those ones that met the ladies they brought in after they travelled out, they are regretting it.

So I have made that conclusion that those who were already dating or married before the man or woman brings the other party usually hVe a glitch free marriage.

It may not apply to all but in most cases it does.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Gerrard59(m): 7:01am On Dec 23, 2020
Amumaigwe:


That's the problem most leeching Nigeria ladies, that successfully ruined their husbands' lives after relocation, have caused for the few remaining (if at all) loyal ones. Since most of you continue to cheer them on in the name of woman liberation, cut this guy some slack please.
Men are now wiser. Let her also work her way to the US simple and short, after all, gender equality is what you Ladies seek. Enjoy it in peace

EOD!

I like OP's promises, they make sense.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by yembet(f): 7:05am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:
The recent topic on the home page motivated me to make this post, anonymously of course.

We were dating before I left Nigeria. We've been dating for about three years. Sometime last year I got a new job in the US (I schooled there so it was easy), and moved away from the country. Until a few weeks ago, we talked nearly every other day. It's always fun talking to her. But lately, things have started to get a little rough because of something that came up, and which I would like to believe is not my fault.

Prior to dating her, since I was a kid in university, I made myself a few promises relating to women:

1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.

Of course, this does not mean that I won't buy a woman gifts (I do that regularly), or take her on a nice trip. I just do not envisage myself pulling a woman up the social ladder. I prefer she makes her own growth moves as it relates to finances or relocation.

I made these promises based on the fact that I expected that whomever I make a partner should be able to make something of their own selves. I do not want to be anybody's savior or anyone's get-out-of-jail card. This resolution has made lose a few women in the past who thought the relationship should be based on what they can get out of it, and my girlfriend knows this.

The situation right now is that there is a path for her to come to America through studying. We already talked about her applying for graduate studies and then transitioning here into a better job. However, she now feels that would be stressful and may not work. Instead, she thinks it's better if I return to Nigeria this December to marry her and then sponsor her eventually to the US. That's not going to happen. This has created a rift and we have not been talking for a while now.

Am I being unreasonable here? How can I make her realize she can be her own person and not have to depend on someone else to "sponsor" her? It just drives me nuts that she knows this about me but is now vehemently insisting that this is the only viable option.

I'll advise you do the needful, by makin coming back home to marry her; that is if you are ready to settle down by.
Anything you do for her is for you the betterment of the two of you and the children of the marriage.
If you love her and you'll like to marry her, go for it. Many women were sponsored abroad by their husbands.
Let her know her fate, so that both of you can move on with your lives.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by ImaIma1(f): 7:10am On Dec 23, 2020
jaxxy:


It is not balanced judgement to compare his sisters with a stranger he fell in love with and barely has any significant experience in life with. undecided

Yes people need help bt it shud be on the right terms not false notions. If it’s charity he’s doing do it as charity not love. Love must be balanced. After all the dates and gifts he still have to break his principles for her? Which she knows b4 hand? Why??


When you love you give. It is something we do even unintentionally. It sometimes makes us look like fools but it is just because we can't afford to see the one we love in need when we can help.

At the bolded, then it should be stated clearly that "I cannot help someone who is not related to me", and not that "I prefer people to grow by themselves".

"Some" men like this will also be this way with their wives, even if at that point she comes before his sisters.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Gerrard59(m): 7:10am On Dec 23, 2020
chaloskyx:
LEAVE OUR GIRL ALONE SOMEONE IN NIGERIA WOULD MARRY HER AND TAKE CARE OF HER. YOU CAN FOCUS ON GETTING SOMEONE IN THE US TO SUIT YOUR TASTE. LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE SHE HAS MORALS AND CANT JUST RUN TO ANOTHER MANS HOUSE WITHOUT ANY FORM OF COMMITMENT. IN US YES BOYFRIENDS AND GIRLFRNDS CAN LIVE UNDER THE SAME ROOF AND ARE SEEN AS COUPLES LEGALLY HOWEVER IN NIGERIA YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RITES AND WED HER LEGALLY IF NOT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR AMERICAN DOLLARS AND SPONSORSHIP ALL TO YOURSELF.

But he mentioned she coming in as a student (most likely sponsored by the university), why is that difficult for her to do? Write the GRE and TOEFL. She doesn't like an added degree from a foreign institution? C'mon!
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by mokoh(m): 7:13am On Dec 23, 2020
Nor try am oh,learn from other people experience oh..sometime ago somebody post for here how the girl wen he carry go USA different from the one wen he know for Nigeria
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Gerrard59(m): 7:13am On Dec 23, 2020
madjune:
It's mind-boggling hearing folks talk about things they don't know or have the capacity of giving.

Truth be said, you don't know what's love, neither do you have the capacity to love anyone.
You sound very self Centered.

How can you love or care about anybody and not wish to see things easier around her?

How can you love and not ready or willing to sacrifice?

I'm sure sacrifice no dey your dictionary.

Sacrifice is an essential and mandatory ingredient in any relationship.
Be it dating or marriage
.

And, if you chose to stick with this your queer way of life, better look for a monastery near you because no normal woman will stay long around you.

Selfish human being.




The sacrifice here is sponsoring her GRE and TOEFL fees, that is more than enough sacrifice. If she writes the GRE, gets admitted on a fully funded position, his respect for her will skyrocket. Even if he doesn't marry her eventually, she obtains an MSc or PhD from a foreign institution on a fully funded scholarship. Isn't that good for her self growth?
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Roseey0(f): 7:14am On Dec 23, 2020
She is seeing herself as your wife already while you just see her as an option.


I wish someone will speak sense into her head to stop building her life around you.

It's not her fault . Most women do that alot.
She need advice not you

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by ImaIma1(f): 7:15am On Dec 23, 2020
thorpido:
Let her be for the meanwhile then.Keep dating and communicating with her.When you think you want to settle with her,you may need to come to Nigeria to marry her and help her move abroad.

The option of coming abroad through studies,can she afford the fees?

If your girlfriend was my sister, I'll ask her to keep her options open.If she meets a good man here who is ready to settle with her,I'll ask her to go for him.


Exactly! at the bolded. Seems like the kind of guy that will control her life there if he helps her.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Gerrard59(m): 7:16am On Dec 23, 2020
addictiv:

She should workout her salvation o... Instead of seeking an easy way out... Let her work for it. Else she won't understand the effort you re making. There is only one choice... She should at least try the graduate route and if it doesn't work she keeps trying till it works. Don't let a woman or anyone force or blackmail you emotionally into marriage.. Your life will be hell...simply tell her that you only plan to get married in 3 years or more.. So if she wants to travel now she has to do the graduate route. The fact that she's not ready to listen to you now that she's not yet married to you is already a red flag. Also the fact that she is not ready to make effort towards her own growth and development is another red flag. The fact that she discarded your opinion as irrelevant and would only consider her own opinion as the only way out is another red flag. The fact that she is INSISTING that you go against your personal values to satisfy her desires is another red flag. You shouldn't force someone to go against their personal values no matter how insane you think the values are... only an inconsiderate person will do such a thing. Bro..use ur tongue to count your teeth.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 7:16am On Dec 23, 2020
cooooooks:
They've not been together for 3 years. They started talking for 1 year then immediately transitioned to long-distance for 2 years.

She should travel and study and if she does not like his approach, time-wasting, red pill consumption, she will be able to find someone else by herself.

And a year is too short to know if someone is the one for you?
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Codysseus: 7:16am On Dec 23, 2020
vaca1:


Three gbosa for you. I am a lady. My brothers are suffering this right now. When they cross over to that side, they start lording over you forgetting where they came from. Rubbish.
God bless you.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by nonut: 7:17am On Dec 23, 2020
Chrisbella24:
I just hate people that think the way you do.

"....... I'm not sure about marriage yet......."

Yen yen yen.

Leave her na
Why una just like to dey stress unaself.

You made a decision that you would never sponsor any woman. Now, why can't you decide this?


You brought it here on Nairaland so people will give you Advice they won't even accept on a Normal day when it comes to their relationships?

You know your girlfriend well, you've been dating for 3 fvcking years angry
So because one woman decided to be ungrateful after she traveled abroad with her husband now means every other woman will be the same?

You all are pathetic.


Yeah, 95% of Nigerian women who travel abroad through a man would end up ungrateful.
Entitle' mentality is in their blood, they can't cheat nature.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 7:20am On Dec 23, 2020
Op, since Nigerian women living in Nigeria are full of crap, why dont your excellency find someone else, someone who won't disrespectful your oh so precious self and won't squander your hard earned money?
Afterall this lady is far beneath your loftiness. Set her free, let her find someone of her level and rank to date, before she turn to "evening newspaper".

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by ImaIma1(f): 7:23am On Dec 23, 2020
LordKO:
From your far-reached resolution and connotation of your submission, you don't believe in altruism/love, then don't sponsor her immigration via a spousal visa. You'll be better off having a contract marriage with her or any other woman, for your peace of mind in particular and sanity of the both of you in general. I expect you to man up and tell her boldly that you don't believe in love, instead of taking to disingenuousness in relating with her, and allow her to decide whether or not to continue with whatever that exists between the two of you.

However, assuming that you're a proponent and practitioner of altruism/love, I don't see anything wrong in one sponsoring his fiancee or wife's immigration via a spousal visa; all the news about betrayal happening and flying around notwithstanding. The reason is simple, whatever cause I believe in, I give my best, and I don't condone anyone who doesn't meet my set ethical standard.

So, anyone I vetted and chose as a lover/wife, I've always accorded her the privilege of being part and parcel of me as a proponent of oneness, while staying a discerning step ahead of her, of course. You need to master the art of giving everything without losing anything and walking out like a boss when things turn sour.

Meanwhile, opportunism and its peripheral vice aren't female gender exclusive, because personally, in an issue like this, I have suffered more betrayal from fellow men; well, that's because they've been my major beneficiaries. My motto in this regard is simple, betray me, shame on you; outsmart me, shame on me.

Love remains a sign of strength, not weakness.






You said it all LordKO.

That "whatever that exists between them" doesn't seem like love.

And yeah, betrayal, opportunism, are not common to women as this forum always seems to project.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by cooooooks(m): 7:31am On Dec 23, 2020
You could know/feel that in a month but to go from total strangers to walking down the wedding aisle in 1 year? Yes, I think that is too short.


Chii59:

And a year is too short to know if someone is the one for you?
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Cutehector(m): 7:38am On Dec 23, 2020
Omo. Break up cheesy Las Las na wetin we go tell you
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by ImaIma1(f): 7:38am On Dec 23, 2020
Toktee:
My thoughts exactly, do not trust Nigeria's ladies when it comes to taken them abroad when they get their and settled, that's when you know their true colors.


A Nigerian Doctor just killed his wife and then himself in the US only God knows the reason.



Nigeria's ladies has a PhD in frustrating me abroad.


Why are some of you men always one sided? Do you think it is only women who do the frustrating? Don't base your judgement on only what you read on SM. These women that acted up, do you know what they really went through?

Women are going through hell with their abroad husbands controlling their lives and even seizing their passports and treating them like prisoners because they brought them there. What do you think will happen when they get their freedom?

And it's not only men that are victims of these issues. Two ladies I know personally; one in US and the other in Canada. Both came back and married in Nigeria and sponsored their husbands to be with them. Both men messed up and all is no longer well. But it is not on Social Media.

So please stop acting like this betrayals are gender specific. Men even betray in a larger way without batting an eyelid.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by PotatoSalad(m): 7:38am On Dec 23, 2020
Chrisbella24:
I just hate people that think the way you do.

"....... I'm not sure about marriage yet......."

Yen yen yen.

Leave her na
Why una just like to dey stress unaself.

You made a decision that you would never sponsor any woman. Now, why can't you decide this?


You brought it here on Nairaland so people will give you Advice they won't even accept on a Normal day when it comes to their relationships?

You know your girlfriend well, you've been dating for 3 fvcking years angry
So because one woman decided to be ungrateful after she traveled abroad with her husband now means every other woman will be the same?

You all are pathetic.


Nne, midlife crisis??
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by englois: 7:43am On Dec 23, 2020
Really it's a tricky situation.
I had a Nigerian guy in the UK that wants to come down to Nigeria to marry me around February of this year. In my chats with him, I discovered he felt he was doing me a huge FAVOUR. I was working as a teacher in an international school then but I already had plans to further my studies abroad. We later broke up I was not going to be in a relationship where the guy will be telling me 'if not for me'. Personally, I can't allow a guy to set me up, I'll prefer he draws a loan contract for me and I'll pay up. Then, he can contribute whatever he wants and I'll will consider collecting it or not. Love is like a transaction joor.
Just thinking that by January 2021 if the guy sees me in UK, he will really be deflated and surprised.
What I'm trying to say is that the OP is rightly entitled to his opinion but don't see yourself as her only salvation. Things do happen. See my story for example.
Finally, pray about it. When I'm confused and confounded by a big challenge, I pray about it. Most times, I get my answer in dreams. When I was in the university, I dreamt of one guy that had been disturbing me. I saw myself carrying a stack of books. The guy was walking beside me. Suddenly, I tripped and the books toppled over. The guy left me to pick the plenty books, rearrange them while he sat down and watched. I got my meaning from the dream that he I should have any problem at all, he won't be by my side, he'll abandon me. So, pray.
Sorry for the long post.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Sofistcatdmoron: 7:53am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:
The recent topic on the home page motivated me to make this post, anonymously of course.

We were dating before I left Nigeria. We've been dating for about three years. Sometime last year I got a new job in the US (I schooled there so it was easy), and moved away from the country. Until a few weeks ago, we talked nearly every other day. It's always fun talking to her. But lately, things have started to get a little rough because of something that came up, and which I would like to believe is not my fault.

Prior to dating her, since I was a kid in university, I made myself a few promises relating to women:

1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.

Of course, this does not mean that I won't buy a woman gifts (I do that regularly), or take her on a nice trip. I just do not envisage myself pulling a woman up the social ladder. I prefer she makes her own growth moves as it relates to finances or relocation.

I made these promises based on the fact that I expected that whomever I make a partner should be able to make something of their own selves. I do not want to be anybody's savior or anyone's get-out-of-jail card. This resolution has made lose a few women in the past who thought the relationship should be based on what they can get out of it, and my girlfriend knows this.

The situation right now is that there is a path for her to come to America through studying. We already talked about her applying for graduate studies and then transitioning here into a better job. However, she now feels that would be stressful and may not work. Instead, she thinks it's better if I return to Nigeria this December to marry her and then sponsor her eventually to the US. That's not going to happen. This has created a rift and we have not been talking for a while now.

Am I being unreasonable here? How can I make her realize she can be her own person and not have to depend on someone else to "sponsor" her? It just drives me nuts that she knows this about me but is now vehemently insisting that this is the only viable option.
Don't bring her if she was in your shoes would she have brought you to The Usa
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Nobody: 7:57am On Dec 23, 2020
cooooooks:
You could know/feel that in a month but to go from total strangers to walking down the wedding aisle in 1 year? Yes, I think that is too short.


It's not. But then it depends on what you want. That's why it's best to define what you want from the start. In one year, a lady could have from 1-20 or even more suitors. Turning them all down for someone who's not even sure she's the one is too costly.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by frozen70(f): 8:10am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:
The recent topic on the home page motivated me to make this post, anonymously of course.

We were dating before I left Nigeria. We've been dating for about three years. Sometime last year I got a new job in the US (I schooled there so it was easy), and moved away from the country. Until a few weeks ago, we talked nearly every other day. It's always fun talking to her. But lately, things have started to get a little rough because of something that came up, and which I would like to believe is not my fault.

Prior to dating her, since I was a kid in university, I made myself a few promises relating to women:

1. I will never pay a woman's school fees
2. I will never rent a house or apartment for a woman, nor furnish an existing apartment
3. I will never sponsor a woman abroad.

Of course, this does not mean that I won't buy a woman gifts (I do that regularly), or take her on a nice trip. I just do not envisage myself pulling a woman up the social ladder. I prefer she makes her own growth moves as it relates to finances or relocation.

I made these promises based on the fact that I expected that whomever I make a partner should be able to make something of their own selves. I do not want to be anybody's savior or anyone's get-out-of-jail card. This resolution has made lose a few women in the past who thought the relationship should be based on what they can get out of it, and my girlfriend knows this.

The situation right now is that there is a path for her to come to America through studying. We already talked about her applying for graduate studies and then transitioning here into a better job. However, she now feels that would be stressful and may not work. Instead, she thinks it's better if I return to Nigeria this December to marry her and then sponsor her eventually to the US. That's not going to happen. This has created a rift and we have not been talking for a while now.

Am I being unreasonable here? How can I make her realize she can be her own person and not have to depend on someone else to "sponsor" her? It just drives me nuts that she knows this about me but is now vehemently insisting that this is the only viable option.

Having read through your policies on women, I want to assume that, you are not helping yourself not to talk more of your woman

This lady in question is your girlfriend and you want her abroad

Are you inviting her over to start living with her as couples or as baby mama to be or as live in lovers


You want her to school abroad too, so how wiisje sponsor it

Your idea that you want a woman to stand on her own is good but you have to build her

If you keep thinking you will not do it and she stands on her own will you exer expect her to assist you in raising your family in future or have you created a stream of income that you can never get broke financially

Now assuming you want to marry a woman, do you expect her to sponsor her marriage because she us the one that wants marriage not you ?

Then when you have babies, she should provide all she needs for her antenatal because she is the one that is pregnant not you


Pls for your own goodness, you need to meet a physiologist over there to assist you in changing your mindset about your relationship with women

You may have issues with any woman if you hi ahead with your thinking about them
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Olaideolayemi(m): 8:13am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.
You are one of the guy,that allow ladies to see real man as scum/wicked...you date someone for three years, you still have doubt,whether to marry or not..That is unfair... The lady love you,she said come home and do the wedding,it means she is real..Are u a boy or a man?You said you can't invest on someone,your wife to be is someone?You better change this your some piking mindset before is too late..the best investment is your wife,because it reduces burden and dependent in long-run..Bros think about future...And make a good decision now before regression, learn from others people mistake...The choice is yours..sorry for quoting you..It is just my views...
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Joseph08(m): 8:18am On Dec 23, 2020
At your own risk bro!

Most of them changes automatically when they start earning almost same Dollars or above you.

I have lived in UK so I'm talking from experience.

All I can tell you is to seek the face of God I'm sure he will direct you.

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Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by thorpido(m): 8:21am On Dec 23, 2020
deltateam:


What will she be doing abroad?

She wants to be a leech and probably take the option of easing op out like the norm.
They have known each other before Op travelled.She's a graduate too I guess.
If they marry,she will have to move to where he is.She can develop herself further(of course with the man's help).
She doesn't have to be a leech.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by ruffhandu: 8:35am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

Oga, leave that girl, what sort of nonesense is that? She simply wants to push you into marriage when you are not ready. Such people will ditch you when she comes over there.
You have agreed to sponsor her to do a PG studies, stick to that. In fact, let that offer have a life span, and let her know, if she comes back after the lifespan, tell her the chapter is closed.

It beats me to know she even knows because of some of these your principles you lost some relationships and now she wants it the other way.

Why doesn't she want to make efforts? She is in the category of shes that believe marriage is a ticket to perpetual luxury on top another person head. Such people are not ready to work hard.

Wetin I dey even talk plenty for another person matter? Abeg, make I continue my work and continue to find my own way jare.
Re: Should I Bring Her Over To The US? by Christian07(m): 8:43am On Dec 23, 2020
canttedra:

I love her. I'm not sure about marriage yet, but it could happen with her.

You are not ready for anything with er
let hear word

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