airmark:


Timbros is having a bad day, he must laugh to this.

Quote me when Alisson concede 7.

Jodera:
Lol... Even the spineless morata beat barca at camp nou this season.

It's all about the team. Athletico is a good team with or without morata

Barcelona was in ruins and Juventus had Ronaldo

Liverpool were supposed to be great and Atletico didn't have a GOAT

Jürgen Klopp says Liverpool’s title challenge is over . Irish Times

raumdeuter:


If with VVD they are conceding 7 to ordinary aston villa, how much would city and Leicester have scored on VVD

Football no be mathematics. That Aston Villa scored 7 against vvd-led defence doesn't mean that Man city will beat Liverpool 14-0.

With vvd, Liverpool haven't lost to Manchester city at anfield.

Just one season vvd no dey, Liverpool open leg like waaaaaah for Manchester city

raumdeuter:


Atletico with the spineless Morata beat them home and away with VVD in attendance

Who should we blame for that Leicester's 2nd goal? Timbros has decided to be economical with the truth.

Trevor012:
Of course it's only the bargain buys you will point Out. Not the waste of funds on Slimani,Silva, Perez,ihenacho etc

Ahmed Musa

Jodera:
Football no be mathematics. That Aston Villa scored 7 against vvd-led defence doesn't mean that Man city will beat Liverpool 14-0.

With vvd, Liverpool haven't lost to Manchester city at anfield.

Just one season vvd no dey, Liverpool open leg like waaaaaah for Manchester city

What a time to be alive.

3 consecutive league losses including home losses. Never happened with VVD marshalling that defence, but nincompoops will say he is a traffic warden.


VVD gave confidence to everyone in that defence. It is now confirmed.

raumdeuter:


Barcelona was in ruins and Juventus had Ronaldo

Liverpool were supposed to be great and Atletico didn't have a GOAT

But barca have messi too So the two goats even out. So spineless morata-led attack still walloped barca. Barca were in crises yet they didn't lose a game in cl before the meeting in camp nou. In fact, it's the first time in decades barca finished 2nd, all because of spineless morata.

Liverpool were supposed to be great, but athletico was already a great team. Athletico don't have a GOAT same as Liverpool

Jodera:
Football no be mathematics. That Aston Villa scored 7 against vvd-led defence doesn't mean that Man city will beat Liverpool 14-0.

With vvd, Liverpool haven't lost to Manchester city at anfield.

Just one season vvd no dey, Liverpool open leg like waaaaaah for Manchester city

With VVD last season Man city beat Liverpool 4-0

You are saying football is not mathematics but you also know for certain that a defender who led a team to concede 7 goals will not concede 14

Jodera:
But barca have messi too So the two goats even out. So spineless morata-led attack still walloped barca. Barca were in crises yet they didn't lose a game in cl before the meeting in camp nou. In fact, it's the first time in decades barca finished 2nd, all because of spineless morata.

Liverpool were supposed to be great, but athletico was already a great team. Athletico don't have a GOAT same as Liverpool

Liverpool was the CL defending champion while Barcelona was recently flogged 8-2

timbros:


Quote me when Alisson concede 7.

This one he had done had condemned his team out of the Epl race.

We need to hurl the giant, VVD back to rescue Liverpool from the safe devilish hands of Alisson.

airmark:




What a time to be alive.

3 consecutive league losses including home losses. Never happened with VVD marshalling that defence, but nincompoops will say he is a traffic warden.


VVD gave confidence to everyone in that defence. It is now confirmed.

If this season doesn't prove how influential and instrumental vvd is, I don't know what season then

Amoto94:
Jürgen Klopp says Liverpool’s title challenge is over . Irish Times

No thanks to Alisson.

Oh, Timbros and Raumdeuter, should we blame Kabak or VVD in his house?

raumdeuter:


With VVD last season Man city beat Liverpool 4-0

You are saying football is not mathematics but you also know for certain that a defender who led a team to concede 7 goals will not concede 14

That's not a crucial match. They can lose 10-0 from that match downwards, it wouldn't matter.

When "it real mattered most", Liverpool won 3-1

N2gether:


Bros you can be expensive and worth every penny so that's a non-starter

What you said was that these guys "didn't cost very much at all", which is simply not true.

25 million for a fullback in 2018 is a lot of money...that's more than we paid for Emerson that year


infact the Pereira signing was one of Leicester's top ten most expensive EVER, and he was the 14th most expensive defender in the WORLD that year

The argument that you are trying to make hinges heavily on the idea that the names you mentioned were cheap acquisitions for Leicester - They were not.

Alright. Perhaps I hinged my argument wrongly. All I was trying to say is, most of these players are proving to be bargain buys - or worth every penny at the very least - when you compare their performances with their costs. Perhaps I should've used 'bargain buys' instead of 'cheap buys'.

Besides, the likes of Maddison, Justin, Ndidi, Soyuncu and Evans cost £20m or less (I stand to be corrected), not to talk of Kante and Mahrez. Still pretty cheap to me.

Nonetheless, I know ya dig what i'm trying to say.

Jodera:


If this season doesn't prove how influential and instrumental vvd is, I don't know what season then

When VVD was leading them to 7 goals loss shows how influential he is

Jodera:
That's not a crucial match. They can lose 10-0 from that match downwards, it wouldn't matter.

When "it real mattered most", Liverpool won 3-1

When it really mattered vs Aston Villa in September what was the result

Trevor012:
Of course it's only the bargain buys you will point Out. Not the waste of funds on Slimani,Silva, Perez,ihenacho etc

Almost every team gets unlucky with transfers sometimes. I'm just impressed with most of the buys they've made, and I pointed that out.

Just this argument here, before it drags needlessly.

Jodera:


If this season doesn't prove how influential and instrumental vvd is, I don't know what season then

Even Alisson confirmed VVD's influence in the team but our brothers here, Timbros and Raumdeuter thought Alisson was stupid.

raumdeuter:


Liverpool was the CL defending champion while Barcelona was recently flogged 8-2

Recently, was last season. Any result from the previous season is inconsequential.

What matters is that spineless morata-led attack walloped barca.

Anyways, aside R.Madrid, how many defending champions haven't been beaten in recent times?

raumdeuter:


When it really mattered vs Aston Villa in September what was the result

And since then, Allison have been casting all their "when it mattered most" matches that they're even in danger of losing out of top 4 totally

raumdeuter:


When VVD was leading them to 7 goals loss shows how influential he is

Allison leading them out of title race as early as Feb tells us how influential vvd is

airmark:


Even Alisson confirmed VVD's influence in the team but our brothers here, Timbros and Raumdeuter thought Alisson was stupid.

Allison is good no doubt, but even his confidence has waned such that he's seeing ball that's meant for kabak, but he's fighting for it.

That's what lack of confidence and trust does. And that's what Vvd brings

Jodera:
Recently, was last season. Any result from the previous season is inconsequential.

What matters is that spineless morata-led attack walloped barca.

Anyways, aside R.Madrid, how many defending champions haven't been beaten in recent times?

Barcelona was destroyed 8-2 in July, Morata and co did their in December same year about 4 months later

Jodera:
And since then, Allison have been casting all their "when it mattered most" matches that they're even in danger of losing out of top 4 totally

Has Allison conceded 7 goals yet like VVD?

Jodera:
Allison leading them out of title race as early as Feb tells us how influential vvd is

If VVD wasn't conceding 7 goals earlier in the season maybe they will still be race now

timbros:


How can the below be facts...



And this is not fact?...



Is there something I am missing?

Yes, there's something you're missing

Vvd in over 2yrs at Liverpool haven't lost 3 straight matches, nor lost at home in the league, not to talk of 3 straight.

That's fact and that proves that if vvd had been in that back line, they wouldn't have lost 3 straight matches.

2years is enough time to use as sample. Correct me if I'm wrong

raumdeuter:


Has Allison conceded 7 goals yet like VVD?

Has Vvd lost more points yet like Allison?

raumdeuter:


If VVD wasn't conceding 7 goals earlier in the season maybe they will still be race now

They were still in the title race till vvd left and Alison came

raumdeuter:


You forgot to tell them the last time you met a bundesliga team in the CL?

they stole him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCeqBkBift8

raumdeuter:


Barcelona was destroyed 8-2 in July, Morata and co did their in December same year about 4 months later

is it the same season?
Like I said, barca was having a winning streak in champions league.before they met juve in camp nou. That doesn't tell me of a team in crises in cl

Make VVD and Alisson come settle this matter, because which kain wahala be this