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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 1:20pm On Jul 27, 2010
ogajim:


Precap/postcap:


Calling me names won't do any good. Just take to my points.

ogajim:

I don't need your url, I can walk down to their HQ and look it up if I need to

You can't, you are only encouraged to get such details from their website and stop disturbing busy staff.

ogajim:

Just because the Vanguard made a report to that effect, you Nigerians never fail to amaze me with your acrobatic skills

Yes, because Vanguard reported it and finally it's happening. You don't visit home often. I think you need to visit home more often now to understand the spirit of our people. I read Vanguard, Sunnewsonline, Huhuonline everyday and get the goings on in town and I'm often around to feel what's happening also. Our people are full of this kind of politics. I mentioned Savanna bank just as example and you never answered to it. Do you always like tangential argument? Do you know that Nuhu Ribadu went on exile when he was being pursued by the police and Fed Govt? The same Ribadu is now found sinless by the same police and Fed Govt. Our people have inordinate desires and have the queerest ways of satisfying them.

ogajim:

USA is a continent in terms of size so if you are going to use "Community bank figures", you might as well compile all the banks that have failed in Africa so far this year, show me too while you're at it which of those failed US banks was national in stature.

You made some funny contradiction here. US is a large as a continent. Accepted. Banks are mostly community banks and not National banks. Accepted again. But you mixed it up a little here:> Nigeria is like a state in US and therefore the banks that failed in Nigeria are like community banks because they don't have representation in the entire Africa. Compared to the balance sheet of the failed US banks our Naija banks were like baby banks and not up to community banks. And don't forget that those US banks failed from the loans they gave out to customers while these Naija banks have not really failed but have over-burdening bad debts.

Nigeria is good my brother, though the quality of leadership has not been impressive. But all countries pass through this phase anyhow.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 12:31pm On Jul 27, 2010
Laughable nonsense everywhere. Why cover too much space and say nothing?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Xenophobia - South Africa . What Your Opinion by precap2(m): 11:47am On Jul 27, 2010
morpheus24:

I bet the mexicans think we are as hideous as you describe them huh?

You're right bro grin grin grin cheesy
Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by precap2(m): 11:15am On Jul 27, 2010
Beaf:

So the goal post moves? grin grin grin
Why didn't we hear this about Omar Bongo? Why don't we hear it about Gaddafi (40 years), why not about Dos Santos, why not Paul Biya, how about Yoweri Maseveni and Idris Debby?

. . .Fact remains that Zims economy is growing.

My people are a people good heart grin. So basically you're offering the reason our National Assembly also offered for their physical fight in chamber? That after all it happened in Japan and other parts of the world. But does that make it right?

Changing from one form of currency to another to me is not a sign of good health but of decadence in another way. Zim's inflation was more than 2,000,000% two years ago and today it's 5.3%, don't you find that questionable? It defies all economic theory from Adam Smith till date.
Let Mugabe get out and allow people who know what they're doing rearrange the country.

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Religion / Re: Is Everyone Born With Original Sin? by precap2(m): 10:41am On Jul 27, 2010
nopuqeater:

@Precap2: « #95 on: Today at 08:58:07 AM »Precap2, the brew that you drank must be the type that intoxicates. Are you sure Catholics are not Christians? Where did the protestants shear from, except from Catholicism? This alone shows that all your other statements do not make any sense. Yet I will respond to them all; The catholics believe Jesus and his mother to be a way of prevention of sin. The protestants believe Jesus to be a way of prevention of sin. The muslims do not believe either one of the son and mother combo can do anything. Muslim depends on God, Alone. Muslims daily prayers are different from one prescribed Salah to the other.

Muslims pray at east 5 times within 24 hours. Many muslims pray more than that. Beads are not required in Islam. I dont use any beads, at all. Yet my prayers, by Allah are not deficient because of no beads. Fatima is the name of the daughter of Muhammad (AS), and the Spanish catholics must have retained it because the Muslims ruled Spain for close to 800 years. And to deny that you are not a sinner from Adam, according to your Bible is pure lack of ignorance on your part or you are clearly denying the obvious. You need to read the Bible, again, and you find that it is because of this inheritance of sin that you guys say Jesus came to carry on his head your sin.


The drink must be strong. This is the reason you put the two bolded in the same sentence. If only Muhammad (AS) had been rich many years into his prophethood. And Muhammad (AS) died poor. What a lie coming from your mouth.

You are allowed the liberty to say whatever you may. But if you say I inherit sin according to the Bible, then I'd say either you have a corrupt copy of the Bible or you're mixing Catholic doctrine with Christian Scriptures.
As for you being a Muslim who's free to pray to Allah without beads, I grant you that but do you also have inspiration from your Allah to write contents in Qur'an or to have revelations about taking your son's wife?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 10:32am On Jul 27, 2010
aletheia <---- you're far more knowledgeable in this matter than any other person I know here. I'd be having questions for you soon on this matter and would direct it to your mail. Don't post your mail here, I'll get it somehow.

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Family / Re: My Wedding Was Stoped By My Husband Because Of His Friend's Death by precap2(m): 9:59am On Jul 27, 2010
jenny9:

@ precap2, i find it hard to believe that you called me a hooker in your mail,

I can't remember calling you that baby. I had to go through my posts in this thread to make sure I didn't post such when drunk (and I don't drink either). I'm very careful with words and such word as hooker can hardly be found in my vocabulary.
It's nice to hear from you and know you're alive and kicking. If you read thru my comments in your thread you'd see that I was saying one and the same thing. If you have time just look thru all the posts by precap2.
May God grant us all wisdom

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 9:33am On Jul 27, 2010
Very soon I'll say it's Akingbola that destroyed my AP shares,
or that the AIG I bought and held since 1999 was swallowed by
one pastor Erastus. This would make a good poem grin

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 9:29am On Jul 27, 2010
ogajim:


Why did he resign or why was he forced to resign?

I don't have any need to defend the indefensible, CBN don't take over banks if their books were in order do they? To the guy who mentioned 140 banks going out of business in the US this year alone I will say put the pipe down because that's false information.


You make too many mistakes at once. Savanna bank was taken over by CBN and for many years the legal battle raged. In the end it was found that CBN played politics with Savanna bank. Do you know that Vanguard newspaper reported 2 months before the sack of Akingbola & co that there was a plot to take over 5 top banks in Nigeria?
As for the 140 US banks you picked out from my post above, I want to ask if you didn't see any other thing in my writing there except the figure? To give you full and final detail I have to make you a research student so that you don't argue what you don't know next time. Instead of giving you direct FDIC url to the full list of failed banks I'll let you get it by yourself, go here if you may: http://fdic.gov/
Enjoy and come back with more comments.
Concerning Akingbola's resignation from the pastorate of RCCG I think he should be commended. He didn't want to get the church mixed up with his ordeal. If he sinned, then he sinned alone without the church and if he is innocent it won't be said that the church pressed buttons for their member. I'm not a member of RCCG and don't plan to become one, but I see a lot of good in what he did.

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Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 8:30am On Jul 27, 2010
Deep Sight:

. . . .Reincarnation. . . . ?

I don't think so. Energy transformation has nothing to do with reincarnation theory.
Rather "incarnation' has to do with the energy in the food we eat. We eat, then the food pass thru several transformations and mixing with already present energy in our body a new kind of energy is formed out of the composition of previous potential forms. When the new potential forms are produced (Sperm and Ovum), then if unused in women they are washed away monthly to contribute to further energy reproduction, and also that of the men are discharged in some other manner that would still contribute to the composite uni-verse.

wirinet:

What about a burning candle or a light bulb being extinguished, does the light energy continue to else?

A dead organic being does not mean energy had been destroyed, be it a rat, human being, a plant or a bacteria, the energy contained there in is recycled back into the universe.

In the case of a light bulb, when its put out it quits using the electrical energy generated and thereby energy is conserved from lack of use but not destroyed. And for candle light, the naked fire use the energy in the wax to produce heat energy, when put out the energy is then conserved in the wax until next use.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 5:06pm On Jul 26, 2010
ajoguegbe:

Vedaxcool can benefit

It's very lovely of you to offer him such opportunity to be free. I wish he'll clinch the lifeline with gratitude.

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Religion / Re: Is Rccg And Pastor Adeboye Obliged To Return Akingbola Looted Offering? by precap2(m): 4:59pm On Jul 26, 2010
There are serious errors in this thread.

1. Akingbola did not steal public money, he gave out loans to corporation in need of it and those debts went bad. It happens all over the world. 140 banks have failed in USA this year alone from bad debt.

2. It's not the duty of the pastor to ask Akingbola if the money he gave to church is stolen. Akingbola already has money to own a bank so it does not follow that a gift he gave to church could have been from illegal deal of any sort.

3. Christ did not receive any gift from Zachaeus as someone above rightly said, but Zach also never offered any gift. Ok? Zach is a notorious tax master who repented before the Master and promised to return whatever he took illegally, Jesus didn't force him to confess and return it.

4. Seeing that Muslims are also here to sling mud all over the place, I'll ask them one thing, IBB and the likes stole Naija money and built mosques, have Muslims abandoned those mosques for them?

5. Dangote owes more money to these banks than any other living human being in Nigeria (with a total debt of almost N200 billion), would the Imam or the Muslim community ask him to pay his debt before making any donation in the course of Islamic propagation?

Let's ask reason.

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Religion / Re: Evidence Of The Spirit? - Energy Balance & Thermodynamics by precap2(m): 4:31pm On Jul 26, 2010
Energy cannot be created. It only goes through several modification and never had an original state. What it serves at any time determines its state at the time. Even the putrefaction of the dead rat will add to the dynamics as certain other forces or organism absorb the dormant energy in the rat.

But can energy be created? I think no. It can only be appropriated as every energy requirement for the optimal performance of the universe is already present.

This is technical somewhat so I don't wanna go OP at all.

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Religion / Re: Emmanuel Eni,occult Grand Master Now In Christ Etc Confessions Are They True Or False? by precap2(m): 3:49pm On Jul 26, 2010
If you believe there are such mysteries, then you can believe the stories,
if you also believe there is satan the devil, then the stories can be believed also.
But I'm inclined to believe that those men had some bad experiences with certain
kinds of embellishment resulting from endless hallucinations. But overall, they had
strange experiences.

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Family / Re: My Wedding Was Stoped By My Husband Because Of His Friend's Death by precap2(m): 2:39pm On Jul 26, 2010
Ujujoan:

People NEVER think of the consequences behind their actions. People have been invited and have come from miles away, meals have been prepared, arrangements have been finalized! He owed it to his family and other friends, to go through with it, no matter how badly he felt!

The guy was never going to cancel the wedding and never did. The gal did because of her insensitivity. And I think it's with many ladies to never have patience but always push their men to do things immediately without consideration.
The guy could have been considering the best way to proceed with the marriage. He had already spent his money (according to the gal herself), he invited people, he was very ready to make the gal proud though she was in a hurry to get pregnant and CAGE the guy. He didn't kill his friend to disrupt the marriage. Why couldn't she be at least reasonable for one. In everything in life someone has to lose more, she didn't consider her loss before acting her Super Heroine shine. She was quick to declare that she felt nothing for the guy, that should tell you that she never felt anything from the beginning but was always pretending, probably because she was already old and losing patience she got pregnant, and sensing some possibility of disappointment then she over-reacted. She was the one that ruined everything.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 2:14pm On Jul 26, 2010
If I offer further clarification it's only to satisfy myself and not to give sense to anyone who has abandoned it. I quit further explanation. But I can never dine with a highway man, nor with one who has little regard for either his life or that of others. Bless all.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Xenophobia - South Africa . What Your Opinion by precap2(m): 1:55pm On Jul 26, 2010
Africa is not different from any part of the world, the only problem is we have too much poverty, but the overall problem of xenophobia informed by taking jobs away from the locals is everywhere. UK citizens don't want to see other Europeans coming in to take their jobs, especially those Danish and Romanian migrants. Do you think Americans are happy with those hideous Mexicans? It's just everywhere.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Al-shabaab Islamists Suspected In Deadly Ugandan World Cup Bombings by precap2(m): 1:35pm On Jul 26, 2010
Bunch of unbelievers. Quit violence and come to Jesus, He'll set you free,

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 1:15pm On Jul 26, 2010
vedaxcool:

Now this man Aju is trying hard to bfuscate the issues but one thing stand paramount why the waste why thee arrogance( imagine mary using her hair to wipe his feets shear pomposity and grandiosity) why insult the poor to justify waste Judas

Jesus is God. If you continue to see him as a prophet (in your own language) you'll never understand him. God deserves the best from us, yet he was never demanding. Do you know anything about Mary? Jesus did much for her, so she in appreciation did what she did, which was nothing. Judas in that your quote was also added in parenthesis that he will sell Jesus, indicating that he, Judas, was always in love with money.

vedaxcool:

21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to Him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to Him and urged Him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.” 24 He answered, “I was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before Him. “Lord, help me!” she said. 26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to their dogs.” 27 “Yes, Lord,” she said, “but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

27 Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.


Read the above and ask your question whether this is suppose to be the words of a prophet who is humble and suppose to show kindness. We can deduce the following
1. He showed lack of concern to a woman suffering instead ignored her.
2.He showed signs of racism as he referred to non jews ( including Aju and the rest of Nigerians christians) as dogs, he spoke in plural, and further claimed that he is not going to help because she is a non-jew.
3. Now a bigger question arises are you non Jews(Nigerian Christians) the house of Isreal?.
4. If a prophet of God can show such lack of concern to his fellow human then what kind of religion did he bring and why has people like AJu not try to contact the holy ghost-y for answers to this apparent racism.

If you read with understanding you'll see that Jesus was trying to show the extent of the woman's faith. It had nothing to do with pride but with the work of faith which he came to do. There are some other instances like that in the scripture. He that read let him understand.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 12:11pm On Jul 26, 2010
Copy and paste all the time. Why don't we get a digest of most of these things.
It's offensive to the eyes to have all these useless, long copycatting everywhere.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 11:00am On Jul 26, 2010
vedaxcool:

See how he address this challenge - look closely at the verse and comprehend this is shear grandiosity cause how will a prophet who is suppose to be an example of simplicity be justifying waste in the most arrogant manner by claiming


He was not a prophet but the Son of the Most High God. Muslims are used to the word prophet.
Philipians 2 vs 5 - 7: Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

This is humility per excellence. He is God, but he took the form of men in humility so that he can teach men humility and redeem us from ourselves first, and from the evil one second.

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Religion / Re: What Happened When I Converted From Catholic To Christian. by precap2(m): 10:45am On Jul 26, 2010
italo:

Yeah! That's like saying 'without rice, fried rice would taste better'. That's very smart of you.

You haven't made much meaning here unless you're saying that Christianity and Roman Catholicism mean one and the same thing, which is a normal claim for a born catholic though.

italo:

Okay, since the word, 'Roman', is synonymous with evil, then St. Paul was also evil. He was Roman! Bravo!

Apostle Paul of the Bible was not a Roman by birth, he was made a Roman citizen because he was a tool in the hands of Rome before his conversion.

italo:

What are the "too many evils"?

It merged the state and the church just to acquire all the powers in the world and used same as instrument of oppression. It incorporated all the Roman idols into the church. What more do you need to know?

italo:

Attacks? You will get them from Christ who is the Head of the [Roman] Catholic Church, if he wills it.

Wish Christ really was that, but not so my brother. They run a government and not a Church and the Pope is the head and not Christ. The only church that have ambassadors in the guise of Papal Legates.

One day you'll see clearly.

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Family / Re: My Wedding Was Stoped By My Husband Because Of His Friend's Death by precap2(m): 10:04am On Jul 26, 2010
blood 45:

hello ,am new member and i don t no what to next please help me out, am waiting.

Are you new in this forum or in the use of internet?

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Zimbabwe Grows For First Time In 11 Years by precap2(m): 9:13am On Jul 26, 2010
Beaf:

It is tough, but you, me and other proud Africans have got to open their eyes, if even just a little at a time.

Enlightening brothers like me would be easy if we could first enlighten brothers like Mugabe that government is not about being a hard man, but about running a good government or he should get out and let a better head do the job. He has stayed for too long and has nothing to show for it. Why can't he leave? Is he the only wise man in Zim?

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Religion / Re: Is Everyone Born With Original Sin? by precap2(m): 8:58am On Jul 26, 2010
nopuqeater:

^^^ For the christians; they do inherit sin from others. te reason they are seeking somebody else to take the blame or punishment on their behalves.

For us in Islam, we do not inherit any sin. The sin we carry is committed by us, individually. The Mercy we seek is according to the individual. There is no collective sin and punishment for us. Especially something we were not even alive to partake in.

May I let you know that Christians don't inherit any sin from anyone. It's Roman Catholics that inherit sin based on their doctrine. And Roman Catholics have nearly the same doctrine as Muslims, from repetitive prayers to counting beads, to names like Fatima and the likes. We Christians don't inherit no sin brother.
Don't forget that its Catholics that made Muhammad rich and equipped him to fight and deliver Jerusalem to them, before the inevitable catastrophe. If you be a good Muslim you should know the rest of the story. The Christians you fight are the quasi-christians known as Roman Catholics.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Mohammed Was Not A Prophet by precap2(m): 8:46am On Jul 26, 2010
aletheia <--- This is a very learned discourse from you. Thanks.
This thread is turning into a parliamentary discourse after the fashion of Edmund Burke and his times. Get on with it while there is still time.
But Islamic historians who truly know their history will never tell you where Muhammad shouted "Allahu akbar". But if you know that Muhammad's mother was barren and that his father was a priest of an Arabian moon god called Allah, then you must have known the rest of the story.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: What Do U Think About The Illuminati, Freemasonry E.t.c; Do They Even Exist? by precap2(m): 8:21am On Jul 26, 2010
jabal1:

Iran bans Western secret societies, like SKULL AND BONES and COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and!!, ROCKEFELLER BROTHERS INSTITUTION!!! UNREAL!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLQbuMWRqk

Iran is full of drama. How can Ahmedinejab ban the mother that brought him to power.
That's very unrealistic.

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Religion / Re: What Happened When I Converted From Catholic To Christian. by precap2(m): 10:26pm On Jul 23, 2010
Jenwitemi:

Lol! My throat no thin at all! grin

Back to the topic at hand. Really, without catholicism there wouldn't have been christianity today, so a little bit of respect.

For some time now I've been looking thru your posts and I find that you're obviously a very tricky person. This is not passing judgment on you but strictly my personal views, which might be wrong anyway.
You want to know if I'm a Catholic? Let me be plain with you. Catholicism is the disgrace of Christianity. Without catholicism christianity would have been better.
Don't forget that catholicism is just a good name for a bad dog, the real name being Roman Catholic. It has every evil thing that the Roman empire stood for and is growing from bad to worse. Roman Catholic presented a diluted gospel to suit the Roman spirit because the harsh real Gospel was too much for them to handle.
It merged too many evils into what the apostles were building.
Hmmmmmm. . . I stop now and wait for attacks.

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Religion / Re: What Happened When I Converted From Catholic To Christian. by precap2(m): 7:51pm On Jul 23, 2010
Jenwitemi:

Well, i allowed myself a little bit of childishness because i am talking to childish people who believe in an infantile religious doctrine specially created for infants or babies. What else do you expect? grin

I wish I could get my hand on that your thin throat,

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Religion / Re: Who Is A True Man Of God? by precap2(m): 7:47pm On Jul 23, 2010
ogoamaka99:

  Who do you think you are to close the thread?.Has nuclearbomb told you that he has fully blasted/.
   @nuclearBOY,
   Who do you take me to be,a smallboy like yourself?. I don't have time for you and your childish trash as to be replying your posts. Even if i have time, replying your posts means descending to your childish level.Boys crack jokes while men discuss issues, so all the jokes you boys are posting does not warrant reply.When you and your boys group as well as those who has lost their mind say something important i can reply them.
   Coming to the promise i made to you which i thought would have saved you the inconveniences of sleeping in the cybercafe. But it seems you are in cabable of fulfilling the simple condition i gave for claiming the laptop.To this end i want to say that you have up till sunday the 25th of July to fulfill the condition and claim the laptop or you forget about it .The condition i gave is that a MOG in charge of the place you worship must identify you through which you equally collect the laptop.You should understand that laptop is not an e-mail that could be delivered through your e-mail address that your childish mind told you.That made you give your e-mail address. I don't know you either so you can't come to claim it yourself.


I assume that question of who someone is was not directed to me. It was a misquote.
But finally Ogoamaka is back thinking the laptop deal has died down. I don't think so.

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Religion / Re: What Happened When I Converted From Catholic To Christian. by precap2(m): 7:40pm On Jul 23, 2010
Jenwitemi:

I believe in myself. I am my own religion. How about that for boldness. grin Now you can begin to criticize. I can take as much critique as you can throw at me. I love being critiqued. So, let's go!

That's amazing! Don't you think you're a spoiled child?
One day you'll have the boldness to say who you are.
For now it's evident you're afraid of criticism. I'll allow your little faith grow grin

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Religion / Re: What Happened When I Converted From Catholic To Christian. by precap2(m): 11:59am On Jul 23, 2010
Jenwitemi:

What will happen? You will still be under the same damn dogma and the same holy book. You will also still be worshiping the same jewish white carpenter/hippie as your lord and saviour.

You have vowed to spoil every topic in the religion section of NL.
Why don't you start your own thread and tell us about your belief?
Or are you afraid of criticism? I think it's about criticism now, those
who criticize too much are afraid to receive same.
I await your own revelatory thread with much patience.

And come to think of it, you have never even had the boldness
to say what you believe in, except in a topic where you hinted that
you're not an atheist but a theist. I'll wait for the day of reckoning lipsrsealed

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