Beachside:
Mr Emeka , You will soon be arrested for theft.

You must be mistaking me for your criminal siblings. Idiot.

Beachside:
Nigeria is a third world shithole . You are a primitive man who have refused to learn. we are talking about Nigeria and you are talking about Uganda,Guatemala. shouldn't Nigeria be better than those smaller countries you mentioned? You are so dumb. comparing a so called Giant of Africa to Guatemala ,Uganda and Afghanistan

There is no ''should'' or ''shouldn't'' in this world, you hear?

Guatemala, Uganda, Afghanistan, even Somalia - don't they have more resources than say Switzerland, or Sweden, or Norway?

Of course they do.

So why are they so far behind the latter in development?

Fact is You are not the Creator of this world, so it is not for you to say what ''should'' or ''shouldn't'' be.

If Nigeria is not developed, then PLAY YOUR PART to help her develop. What is wrong with you?

If God wanted to place you in a developed nation, He would have created you to be a Swiss or Swede, or Italian, or whatever.

God placed you HERE so that YOU could contribute your quota to building this place up.

Do you think all those developed countries were always advanced?

Do you know that just a century and half ago, people slept 20 to a room in London, Liverpool, Manchester, and died of cold and preventable diseases on the streets?

Do you know that as recently as the early 20th century, households in England used to share toilets? Ten houses in a row would share ONE toilet. Those who were too pressed would shiit on the streets. If you want me to provide evidence of life in Victorian England I'll do so right away.

Throughout all this suffering the English people never hated themselves or called their nation a ''shithole'' and all that self-hating trash.

Plus all this suffering went on while their elite lived in huge palaces.

There is nothing we're seeing in Nigeria that other regions on earth have not experienced.

Get off this nonsensical negativity and add your bit, and leave the rest for the next generation, just like those in the UK and elsewhere did.

That's all that's required of you. Not this stupid negativity and finger pointing everyday.

Rubbish.

Stupid moro.ns with inferiority complex. Ever since the uneducated, ignorant racist asswipe and criminal that calls himself the US president used ''shiithole'' to describe African nations, his brain-dead slaves have taken on the word, as if they ever used it in their lives prior to hearing a racist use it.

Kuku go and serve Trump and his KKK, neo-nazi, white-supremacist friends tea and coffee, and smile like the stupid inferior black they want you to be, since that is what makes you feel comfortable. Rubbish.

Beachside:
you are an old fool.

Thanks. Bye bye.

Beachside:
This topic is about Nigeria,not uganda or chad . Nigeria is a shithole. I'm a honest and straightforward person. Nigeria is a complete shithole.

Ok, thanks. Get lost and stay lost. Go back to your paradise wherever you live, and leave us the hell alone. Asswipe.

Beachside:
I observe that most Nigerians have wrong perception of what development means. you don't need overpasses or skyscrapers to be developed.
Build the basics and that paves the way for other things to follow. Most highrises and skyscrapers are built by private individuals.
The basics needs to be fixed first: stable electric, ID database ,etc., jobs and circulation of money so people can afford to spend.
Do not talk about development if there's no stable electricity. Is there ID databse ? Is there a tax system? Are there laws, and are they even implemented? I personally think Nigeria is the biggest shithiole in the world. Everything is simply wrong with the country. It even wears me out when I visit this forum.

It's true that in our modern world , a city's prestige is characterized by it's Skyline . A high-rise does not necessarily have to have to be office buildings, it can be apartments . There are no skyscrapers in Nigeria , only lowrises(3 - 6) ,midrise(10 -20) and maybe four highrises (25 to 40). The tallest building in Nigeria as I see on google is 31 stories. Skyscrapers are around 55 to 120 stories.
Cost of building depends on materials used . For example , it cost the same amount of money to build the two structures below .

I was taking you serious until you came up with this ''Nigeria is the biggest shiithole'' RUBBISH.

You know, someone needs to dump some of you pampered idiots into places like Honduras, Peru, Somalia, Haiti, Sierra Leone, Eritrea, Pakistan, Cambodia, Guatemala, Uganda, Niger Republic, Chad, or Afghanistan, so you can actually discover through your thick skulls what a real ''shiithole'' really is.

Because of your stupid colonial mentality, you think everywhere outside Nigeria is like the UK, Switzerland, Germany, and Dubai, forgetting that developed nations constitute only about 20% of nations on earth, majority of them having been independent for several centuries, with the rest being developing nations like Nigeria still struggling with the so-called 'basics' like power supply and roads.

Until you get it though your thick skulls that there is nothing wrong with, and nothing to be ashamed of, with being a developing nation, that it is actually the NORM on earth rather than the exception, you will continue to be disgruntled elements, hating yourselves and your background till you reach your graves, and wasting your lives in disgruntlement.

Rubbish.

stonemasonn:
aesthetic starts with good and standard roads, bridges,,drainages etc

So until we have perfect roads we must all ride in keke?

The way some of you reason is just crazy.

You just criticise for the sake of criticising.

Out of impulse.

Sometimes try and use your head.

stonemasonn:
lol, this is more traffic

The problem is not about traffic.

It is about safety and aesthetics.

Those keke things have no business in a modern 21st century city.

Wow. That is a far better option than keke.

It actually looks like a proper vehicle.

Why are you people complaining?

You prefer to live like animals, riding in those wretched keke things?

In fact we need entrepreneurs to come together and build stuff like this to replace those primitive tricycles.

Well done, Mr Governor.

theDEVILisHERE:


I'm still here
Only thing going away is the redemption of u and other delusional "N...s with in the British slave Area"

Face ur terrorists govt

Do not come in here using racist terminology.

You clearly lack proper home training, or you'd conduct yourself with decorum.

Tell me. Is it by force that we must all accept your views?

You've made your point. Now go away.

All you're doing is displaying your intolerance for opposing viewpoints.

Is that how your new republic will function? Everybody must think like you or you won't let them be?

I can name a few countries where such is the norm - North Korea, Afghanistan, Uganda under Amin, Hitler's Germany etc, etc.

theDEVILisHERE:


what the hell are u talking about?@#!??

i'm telling u terrorists are coming for ur souls and u are hear giving sentiment speech

Well, some people just can't be redeemed, smh

Dude, please, just leave this thread. Nobody wants you here. Go away. Bye bye.

theDEVILisHERE:


.."will not.." it's already disbanded

u are the one dreaming not me, what I say are facts even u cannot deny, except ofcourse u want to decieve yourself

living in delusion helps no one
face reality and save ur future generations

So why are you here if it's disbanded?

Why are you not on Biafraland website?

Just like you claim to want secession yet your people are spread all over the country more than anyone else.

Life of contradictions.

fernandez1:

Mr there's no reasonable investors that'll invest in a country with depleted electricity.....he'll calculate the cost of running diesel daily..... No be by these ur English investors go use gain.

Mr Naysayer, are the investors in Lagos' skyscrapers and Abuja high rises departing those buildings because of ''depleted electricity''?

Who told you office occupiers of skyscrapers pay for diesel?

Have you actually been inside a skyscraper?

Go and try and rent office space in Marina or Broad Street and see if you can find space to rent, since everyone is running away from ''paying for diesel''.

fernandez1:
Mr op we don't really need skyscraper nows......what we really need is 24 hours electricity and train transportation....then we are on pact.....creating CDB in all states of the federation won't lift the masses from the poverty

Then you don't understand the role of infrastructural development in creating wealth and changing lives.

Do you realise how many jobs would be created by carrying out this program as outlined?

To maintain and service one skyscraper, you would need within its proximity a minimum of:

Lift engineering companies

Electrical Firms

Air conditioning firms

Furniture firms and suppliers

Security firms

Plumbing firms

Transport firms

Catering firms

Civil engineering firms for structural maintenance

And many of those firms will also require ancillary firms to supply them.

This is just for one building.

Multiply that to say, 20 skyscrapers per city.

Then multiply that by 36 states.

In other words, job opportunities will be opened for countless millions of Nigerians.

theDEVILisHERE:


You can't transform a terrorist heaven

Disband ur British cage and save urselves the evil horror awaiting all in the British cage

4 terror groups in one country is no joke
Only fools talk about development when lives of millions are at stake

Nigeria will NOT be disbanded. Nigeria is a democracy, and majority of Nigerians want the nation to remain ONE.

End of story.

You CANNOT force your views on Nigerians, no matter how strongly held.

Therefore, your secessionist dream will remain what it is - a dream.

My advice to you is that instead of living your life as a dream, you should get back in touch with reality, and contribute your quota to making Nigeria a better place, rather than, inter alia, inventing the existence of ''4 terror groups'' in your head.

Your only alternative is to seek citizenship of another country, and depart from our shores.

At least that way, you can stop living your life as a dream.

Regards.

Goahead:
Who do you expect to climb the stairs of 20 storeys buildings?

Or have you fixed the epileptic power supply

Obviously, you don't know what the present Nigeria needs.

How do people ''climb the stairs'' in Lagos?

Karatum:


Meaning Africans are getting good trainings needed to defeat terrorism on the continent, except of course, you are from the zislam stock (then u will totally be against this good devt)

Ignorant illiterate. Do you realise that Israel is ''fighting terrorism'' because she forcibly occupied and seized the land of Palestinians?

You ''fight terrorism'' by being fair and righteous to other people, and by the govt providing education and opportunities to the poor and dispossessed, not by ''getting good trainings'' from Israel, on how to suppress those whom you are oppressing and stealing from.

healthserve:
True. I agree 100%

Thanks bro.

Every state governor must be obliged to build at least TWO skyscrapers in his capital during his tenure.

It doesn't need to be 100 storey skyscrapers.

20 to 40 storeys will still look superb.

Build them, and then rent out office space to businesses, to recoup costs and even make profit.

They must do it in the city centre, and create a CBD (Central Business District), to create a concentration of high rises, and a SKYLINE.

This attracts investors and tourists like nothing else you can imagine.

PLUS they must get rid of open gutters, and build pedestrian sidewalks on every street.

If that happens, come to Nigeria in 10 years time and you'll think you're in the USA.

That's what they should focus on, rather than all these funny lights and roundabouts they build.

We cannot leave everything to the Federal Govt.

The state governors must play their part in realising the Nigeria of our dreams.

Discuss.


Phoenix, Arizona, a small US city made to look like New York simply by creating a CBD with a few high rises. Every Nigerian state capital should have a CBD like this.

explosiveskull:
But why can't a state governor build a skyscraper of say 100 stories with better lift and constant electricity supply and rent it out both for residential and commercial use and use it's rent as source of income to the state?

Excellent suggestion. A lot of these cities in Nigeria need city centres, ie central business districts (CBDs) with highrises/skyscrapers, to create that business environment that attracts investors and tourists.

How I wish that every state governor will be obliged to build at least ONE skyscraper in his capital during his tenure. It doesn't even need to be 100 storeys. 20 to 40 storeys will still look superb.

PLUS get rid of open gutters and build pedestrian sidewalks on every street.

If that happens, come to Nigeria in 10 years time and you'll think you're in the USA.

That's what they should focus on, rather than all these funny lights and roundabouts they build.

wirinet:


Biafra would be an absolute dictatorship country worse than North Korea.

My very good friend was jisting me on how in a bar they were discussing Biafra and Kanu with his friends. When he said he does not support Biafra or kanu, some hefty men who overheard his conversation came up to him and told him to repeat what he said. Fearing for his life, he told them up Biafra, up kanu, and they went back to their seats. He said he got up and left the place without finishing his drinks.

You can see their attitude by the amount of venom the pour on anyone who refuses to worship kanu here on nairaland.

That is an incredible, tragic story, and I believe every word of it.

I also recall a conversation with a distant uncle of mine over the Biafra issue. He was for Biafra and I was for One Nigeria, in a heated, though friendly debate over beer. Midway through our debate, he made a casual remark that startled me, to the effect that ''God save you if you go to Onitsha and say these things you're saying''.

I just replied him straight that ''all the more reason why Biafra is a bad idea, since there is no room for plurality of opinion in your little tribal republic''.

At least as a Nigerian, you can think what you like, say what you like, insult the president and leaders all you like, and nobody will disturb you.

Area4Area:
You have every right to be who you are irrespective of what these minions feel, their feelings or perception changes nothing nor rewrites your DNA.

I had stopped obliging any nitwit questioning my person nor origin all because of my political stand.

Try to ignore them next time, you own nobody no apology nor explanation.

Thanks bro. I just don't get the audacity some people have to come online and claim to know where a person must come from based on his political views.

Because they base their own views strictly on their ethnic loyalties rather than on common sense, logic, and reasoning, they think everybody is like them. It's just so ignorant and primitive.

If you do not believe in Biafra or secession, then you must not be an Igbo person.

Which poll did these illiterates conduct showing that every Igbo person supports secession?

Can you imagine their effrontery?

Fascists pretending to be freedom fighters.

Can you imagine any of these ones in power in a 'Biafra'?

Won't they just kill anybody who doesn't meet their definition of who a Biafran or Igbo person is?

May their type NEVER EVER achieve any form of power in Igboland.

Amen.

double0seven:


Load of rubbish

Fucking fake news


Trump refused to rent his building to blacks

Can show some proof of that?

Certainly.

1973: The US Department of Justice under the Nixon administration sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speech accusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.

1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

More On Trump's racism:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/racism-and-donald-trump-a-common-thread-throughout-his-career-and-life

I wish I could have 3 wives.

EFCC has new job. They'll be looking into this, no doubt.

Dedetwo:


I shall bet my last cent you do not even know the composites of corruption. If you did, the silly question about Nzeogwu and January 15, 1966 coup should not have been asked.

Sure. Igbo leaders were angels from heaven. None of them stole a penny. It was only Hausas and Yorubas that were corrupt. Which was why the coupists left Igbo leaders untouched.

And since when did the penalty for alleged corruption become storming the accused's home and shooting him dead without trial?

Animal in human skin.

Dedetwo:


You must be excessively drunk on stupidity to call these craps you vomited on this forum as an intellectual debate. What a jerk.

I can see you have less than a secondary school education. You sound very much like a school dropout.

Even your diction betrays you.

I suggest you enrol in college. Right now, you're like a wild animal.

I'm done with you. We are on very different levels.

Dedetwo:


Are you this low in cluelessness? Muhammadu Buhari was one of the reasons thet spurred the coup of January 15, 1966. Tafawa Balewa's nepotistic tendencies to have dunces such as Muhammadu Buhari commissioned into Nigerian army stood like a shinning star.

You don't like an elected leader's appointments, so your solution is to shoot him??

Zombie o, zombie (zombie o, zombie)
Tell am to go straight
A joro, jara, joro
No break, no job, no sense
A joro, jara, joro..

- Fela Kuti.

Thanks for displaying your LOW IQ military reasoning here.

No wonder we ended up in civil war.

Dedetwo:


I guess semi-literate soldier could have debated more intelligently than you have done. It is very clear you have never seen a parade ground in your freaking life.

What has ''parade ground'' got to do with this intellectual debate?

No wonder Fela called you guys ZOMBIE.

No working brain.

In all my years, I've still never heard a cogently explained reason WHY Nzeogwu and friends committed those atrocitites in shooting those leaders.

What exactly did Tafawa Balewa do to deserve murder? Or Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto? Or Akintola? Or Festus Okotie-Eboh?

I've never heard any explanation that made sense.

Dedetwo:


The idiotic statement you made has no bases to be granted relevancy. Did you really understand intrigue of mutiny and counter mutiny?

You sound like a drunken, semi-literate soldier.

I guess that was how Nzeogwu sounded when he went around shooting elected leaders in their homes.