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Religion / Re: Am Beginning To Lose Faith In Islam: Boko-haram Caused It by Saintparis1: 11:53am On Aug 11, 2012 |
maclatunji: Enters thread, after banning saint paris to make sure he doesn't expose islam, yawns at topic. So what do you want us to do about it? Knowledge is there for you to seek. There shall be no compulsion in religion! |
Religion / Re: Since When Did Speaking The Truth With Facts Earn One A Ban ? Seun Sort This Out by Saintparis1: 11:09am On Aug 11, 2012 |
This mactunji has banned me for what now |
Politics / Re: Kogi Deeper Life Church Massacre: We Are Here To Finish All Of You Said Gunmen by Saintparis1: 6:42pm On Aug 10, 2012 |
alhussangle@gma:To hell with your sympathy...killers |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Kano Hisbah Detains Non-Fasting Muslims by Saintparis1: 9:29am On Aug 10, 2012 |
^^^ nice |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 9:15am On Aug 10, 2012 |
BetaThings: Something that was acceptable 1400 years ago in Arabia or during the middle Ages may not look that good today. Perhaps we should not judge those people so harshly. But the question is why should we follow them? I agree that morality is relative and we should not judge the ancient people’s morality with our modern morality. Obviously we all cringe when we think of pedophilia and acknowledge that it is a shameful act of immorality. But during the time of Muhammad, and even today in some Islamic countries, marrying a 9-year-old child was not immoral. In fact Aisha was given to Muhammad with the consent of her parents and no one raised an eyebrow. The question is, if sleeping with a nine year old child was not deemed bad and therefore was not considered immoral, was it ok? Not everything that a society accepts as moral is right. Having sex with a minor may not have been immoral for Arabs 1400 years ago or in the middle Ages, but it is now, as it was then, unethical. Moralities are defined by circumstances, but ethics transcend time and space. They are rooted in logics. Morality can vary from culture to culture, from time to time and from person to person. Who is to determine what is moral and what is not? “ Having sex with a minor may not have been immoral for Muhammad and his contemporaries in that uncivilized culture, but it was ethically wrong. If Muhammad was a messenger of God or an honorable man, as he made his Allah to proclaim him thus, he should have known that what he was doing was dishonorable and unethical. Although it is true that in the past people married at very young age. And it is also true that occasionally wealthy old men married very young girls. We have to realize that these people acted on their culture. We do not condemn them for they did not know better. What they did was the norm. But we do condemn those cultures. However, we cannot forgive with the same amnesty those who claimed to be the standard of rectitude amongst mankind. If average people could not distinguish the right from the wrong, the messenger of God, if he were from God, should have known better. If His claim was true, if his knowledge was divine, if he was inspired, he should not have followed the tradition of their people but should have set the example. Muhammad followed the morality of his people. But that morality was ethically wrong. He claimed to be the best human and the last messenger of God. According to him God has said to people all he wanted to say in the Quran and his religion is complete. There is no more guidance to come and his examples and teachings are all we need to know and follow for eternity. Yet what he did and said, under the light of modern values prove to be very wrong. [/quote]Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today[/quote] Nope....... it's 13 for minors, 16 for adults A 16 can have sex with a 13 but a 50 cannot have sex with under 16. |
Politics / Re: Subsidy Scam Suspect Denied Bail Over ‘Criminal History’ by Saintparis1: 2:10pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
[color=][/color]Ok |
Politics / Re: Boko Haram Sponsors Identified. by Saintparis1: 2:02pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
waste of mb [color=#990000][/color] |
Nairaland / General / Re: Be Warned: Do Not Put On Anything Red Today O! (Rumour) by Saintparis1: 1:55pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
[color=#990000][/color] so? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Kano Hisbah Detains Non-Fasting Muslims by Saintparis1: 11:18am On Aug 09, 2012 |
LagosShia:So much for the religious tolerance you preach. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 3:21am On Aug 09, 2012 |
Really? You may still claim that all these hadithes are lies. People are free to say whatever they want. But truth is clear like the Sun for those who have eyes. No sane person would be aroused by a 9- year-old child. Decent people wince at the thought of this shameful act. Yet some Muslims deny them. The question is why so many followers of Muhammad would fabricate so many false hadithes about the age of Ayisha, which incidentally confirm each other? Why should anyone fabricate a lie about the age of Ayisha that would portray his Prophet as a pedophile? |
Politics / Re: Kidnapped Anambra Monarch 'Igwe-Eze' Freed by Saintparis1: 7:51pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
Richardid: This is the first of its kind in nigeria. The easterners r the forunners. Was a yoruba tv presenter not kidnapped in the west? Mtswwww |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:35pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
LagosShia: Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245 Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I never remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam), If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some You claim, she would have remembered the religion of her parents prior to becoming Muslims. Sadly, it is not just Mohammad who thought he shouldhave a child bride; it is also sanctioned in the Koran. To be clear, a man can marry a prepubescent girl who has not even reached her period. In the case of divorce: Qur’an 65:4 If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The sameshall apply to those who have not yet menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him. The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles . Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children |
Islam for Muslims / Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Saintparis1: 6:39pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
@macolatunji or whateva ur name is u hide my post abi #GODISWATCHINGYOU# 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Saintparis1: 4:46pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
psst What are these people talking about? Muhammad killed those that insulted him. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 4:18pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
LagosShia: Aisha was 9 lunar years old or 8 years 9 months old according to solar years when Muhammad slept with her. This is a fact demonstrated by a great number of hadiths. There is no controversy in that. There has never been until now that some of the Muslims have come in contact with western values and are ashamed to admit that their Prophet could commit such an indecency. They deny the facts and have made it a controversy. . Accept it that's what your prophet is. "Craddl3 robbber" |
Politics / Re: KOGI UNDER SIEGE: Four Killed In Fresh Attack On Mosque by Saintparis1: 12:10pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
sulex947: that information posted is wrong and misguiding. 1. The two miltary men were among the personel guarding okene lg sect. And the assasin came after the acting chairman of okene LG, 2. The mosque is behind the LG sect. 3. There was no bomb at the said church in lokoja, cos the church pastor later came out to say that it was just black polytn bag containing garbages that cause the panic. 4. All the attacks in okene is not carried out by boko haram but by political thugs under directives from their politicians.Are you boko haram spokesman? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:54am On Aug 08, 2012 |
fellis: Huh He didn't set the stage? Muhammad asked aisha's hand in marriage when she was 6yrs and consummated the marriage when she was 9. C'mon quit the lying |
Religion / Re: 11-year-old Girl Married To 40-year-old Man by Saintparis1: 7:47am On Aug 08, 2012 |
fellis: That picture in Op's post has been around the internet for years, I doubt that it is related to the story he told. Would your 11yr old sis willing to marry that ancient looking man? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do All Muslims Pray In Arabic?? by Saintparis1: 7:44pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Bélla3: does dat mean islam means submission? I thought islam means peace |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do All Muslims Pray In Arabic?? by Saintparis1: 7:39pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Jesus was a muslim? Jews of today do the same thing moses did in his days. Why re they not considered as muslims as well? |
Sports / Re: London 2012: 7 Cameroonian Athletes Abscond by Saintparis1: 7:36pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Huh |
Religion / Re: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by Saintparis1: 7:33pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: How Man Wives Did Muhammad Actually Have? by Saintparis1: 7:17pm On Aug 07, 2012 |
MacDaddy01: Lmao 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Bomb Blast At Lokoja, Kogi State by Saintparis1: 11:32am On Aug 07, 2012 |
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Islam for Muslims / Re: How Man Wives Did Muhammad Actually Have? by Saintparis1: 11:12am On Aug 07, 2012 |
To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad , you all often mention that he married Safiyyah before he slept with her. But they forget to state that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period ( three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyah. We shall now see how Muhammad had violated the rule of idda ( waiting period ) in marrying a woman. These rules are stipulated in the Qur'an thus; Widows of wait four months and ten days for re-marriage...2:234 Surah2.234 YUSUFALI: If any of you die and leave widows behind, they shall wait concerning themselves four months and ten days: When they have fulfilled their term, there is no blame on you if they dispose of themselves in a just and reasonable manner. And Allah is well acquainted with what ye do. Clearly, when Muhammad wanted to sleep or to have s3x with Safiyyah , she was a widow, technically, as Muhammad had already killed her husband. Therefore, as per the Qur'an, Muhammad had to wait at least four months and ten days before he could even touch her. But Muhammad did not at all observe this rule ; instead, he took Safiyyah , straight from the battlefield to his bed in the war camp. Having spent the night with her, Muhammad took her to another, safer location, stayed there for three days and consummated his marriage with Safiyyah. Muhammad selected Safiyyah because of her beauty, made her his wife and gave a banquet at the wedding; then he had sex with Saffiyah at Sa`d-AsSahba…(Sahih Bukhari 4.52.143) Ma'salam |
Religion / Re: 11-year-old Girl Married To 40-year-old Man by Saintparis1: 10:01am On Aug 07, 2012 |
It's all divine. Muhammad did it too. bunch of pedophil1es |
Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Razes Police Outpost In Sokoto by Saintparis1: 8:12am On Aug 07, 2012 |
Next |
Religion / Re: Why Muslims Must Hate Jews by Saintparis1: 9:30pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Wow. So much hate |
Politics / Re: Bomb Blasts And Gunfire In Damaturu, Yobe State by Saintparis1: 7:52pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
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