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Religion / Re: Am Beginning To Lose Faith In Islam: Boko-haram Caused It by Saintparis1: 11:53am On Aug 11, 2012
maclatunji: Enters thread, after banning saint paris to make sure he doesn't expose islam, yawns at topic. So what do you want us to do about it? Knowledge is there for you to seek. There shall be no compulsion in religion!
Religion / Re: Since When Did Speaking The Truth With Facts Earn One A Ban ? Seun Sort This Out by Saintparis1: 11:09am On Aug 11, 2012
This mactunji has banned me lipsrsealed for what now
Politics / Re: Kogi Deeper Life Church Massacre: We Are Here To Finish All Of You Said Gunmen by Saintparis1: 6:42pm On Aug 10, 2012
alhussangle@gma:
. Count us out of ur hatrat of one another. We muslims sympatise with u.
To hell with your sympathy...killers lipsrsealed
Islam for Muslims / Re: Kano Hisbah Detains Non-Fasting Muslims by Saintparis1: 9:29am On Aug 10, 2012
^^^ nice cheesy
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 9:15am On Aug 10, 2012
BetaThings:

How come sane people of that era never found un"exciting" what the Prophet did
Were there no decent people (like you or the way you define it) then? So maybe the age (whatever you chose to put it) was not an issue
Did you know that the age of consent/marriage in England was once 10?
Did you know that in Europe during the Middle Ages, the lord of the manor had a legal right to spend the first night with any non-noble bride on his land

Something that was acceptable 1400 years
ago in Arabia or during the middle Ages may not look that good today.
Perhaps we should not judge those people so
harshly. But the question is why should we
follow them?
I agree that morality is relative and we
should not judge the ancient people’s
morality with our modern morality.
Obviously we all cringe when we think
of pedophilia and acknowledge that it
is a shameful act of immorality. But
during the time of Muhammad, and
even today in some Islamic countries,
marrying a 9-year-old child was not
immoral. In fact Aisha was given to
Muhammad with the consent of her
parents and no one raised an eyebrow.
The question is, if sleeping with a nine
year old child was not deemed bad and
therefore was not considered immoral,
was it ok? Not everything that a society
accepts as moral is right. Having sex
with a minor may not have been
immoral for Arabs 1400 years ago or in the middle Ages, but
it is now, as it was then, unethical.
Moralities are defined by
circumstances, but ethics transcend
time and space. They are rooted in
logics. Morality can vary from culture to
culture, from time to time and from
person to person. Who is to determine
what is moral and what is not? “
Having sex with a minor may not have
been immoral for Muhammad and his
contemporaries in that uncivilized
culture, but it was ethically wrong. If
Muhammad was a messenger of God or
an honorable man, as he made his
Allah to proclaim him thus, he should
have known that what he was doing
was dishonorable and unethical.
Although it is true that in the past
people married at very young age. And
it is also true that occasionally wealthy
old men married very young girls. We
have to realize that these people acted
on their culture. We do not condemn
them for they did not know better.
What they did was the norm. But we do
condemn those cultures.
However, we cannot forgive with the
same amnesty those who claimed to be
the standard of rectitude amongst
mankind. If average people could not
distinguish the right from the wrong,
the messenger of God, if he were
from God, should have known better. If
His claim was true, if his knowledge
was divine, if he was inspired, he
should not have followed the tradition
of their people but should have set the
example. Muhammad followed the
morality of his people. But that morality
was ethically wrong. He claimed to be
the best human and the last messenger
of God. According to him God has said
to people all he wanted to say in the
Quran and his religion is complete.
There is no more guidance to come and
his examples and teachings are all we
need to know and follow for eternity.
Yet what he did and said, under the
light of modern values prove to be very
wrong.

[/quote]Today the age of consent in Spain is 13; same as in South Korea
You can still marry a girl younger than 13 in some parts of Mexico today[/quote]
Nope....... it's 13 for minors, 16 for adults
A 16 can have sex with a 13 but a 50 cannot have sex with under 16.
Politics / Re: Subsidy Scam Suspect Denied Bail Over ‘Criminal History’ by Saintparis1: 2:10pm On Aug 09, 2012
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Politics / Re: Boko Haram Sponsors Identified. by Saintparis1: 2:02pm On Aug 09, 2012
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Nairaland / General / Re: Be Warned: Do Not Put On Anything Red Today O! (Rumour) by Saintparis1: 1:55pm On Aug 09, 2012
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Islam for Muslims / Re: Kano Hisbah Detains Non-Fasting Muslims by Saintparis1: 11:18am On Aug 09, 2012
LagosShia:
a Muslim who isn't sick and is healthy to fast,should fast.at least if he doesn't,this isnt something he'd show publically when others are fasting especially in a Muslim land.if a Muslim does that openly,then he is finding trouble for hismelf and provoking others especially those who would not tolerate an open display of not abiding by the rules.
So much for the religious tolerance you preach. lipsrsealed
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 3:21am On Aug 09, 2012
Really? You may still claim that all
these hadithes are lies. People are free
to say whatever they want. But truth is
clear like the Sun for those who have
eyes.
No sane person would be aroused by a 9-
year-old child. Decent people wince at
the thought of this shameful act. Yet
some Muslims deny them. The question
is why so many followers of Muhammad
would fabricate so many false hadithes
about the age of Ayisha, which
incidentally confirm each other?
Why
should anyone fabricate a lie about the
age of Ayisha that would portray his
Prophet as a pedophile?
Politics / Re: Kidnapped Anambra Monarch 'Igwe-Eze' Freed by Saintparis1: 7:51pm On Aug 08, 2012
Richardid: This is the first of its kind in nigeria. The easterners r the forunners.

Was a yoruba tv presenter not kidnapped in the west? Mtswwww lipsrsealed
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:35pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia:

it is not more of a fact than accepting Mary was 12 years old given to a 90 year old Joseph when she conceived miraculously.

you take what you want to accept.from historical accounts,Aisha could have being up to 19 or 21 year old.

also,up until recently,the age of consent in europe and america (about 100 years ago) at a time christian values were still present in those societies before secularism took over,was 10 and 12 years old! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 245
Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) I never
remembered my parents believing in any religion other than the true religion (i.e. Islam),

If Ayesha was older i.e. 16 or 18 as some
You claim, she would have
remembered the religion of her parents
prior to becoming Muslims.
Sadly, it is not just Mohammad who thought he shouldhave a child bride; it is also sanctioned in the Koran. To be clear, a man can marry a prepubescent girl who has not even reached her period.
In the case of divorce:
Qur’an 65:4 If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The sameshall apply to those who have not yet menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him.
The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles .
Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children lipsrsealed
Islam for Muslims / Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Saintparis1: 6:39pm On Aug 08, 2012
@macolatunji or whateva ur name is u hide my post abigrin #GODISWATCHINGYOU# cheesy

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Islam for Muslims / Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by Saintparis1: 4:46pm On Aug 08, 2012
psst What are these people talking about? Muhammad killed those that insulted him.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 4:18pm On Aug 08, 2012
LagosShia:

review this thread and discover your ignorance:

https://www.nairaland.com/846958/tell-me-why-mohammed-married

Aisha was 9 lunar years old or 8 years 9
months old according to solar years
when Muhammad slept with her. This is
a fact demonstrated by a great number
of hadiths. There is no controversy in
that. There has never been until now
that some of the Muslims have come in
contact with western values and are
ashamed to admit that their Prophet
could commit such an indecency. They
deny the facts and have made it a
controversy. grin. Accept it that's what your prophet is. "Craddl3 robbber" cheesy
Politics / Re: KOGI UNDER SIEGE: Four Killed In Fresh Attack On Mosque by Saintparis1: 12:10pm On Aug 08, 2012
sulex947: that information posted is wrong and misguiding. 1. The two miltary men were among the personel guarding okene lg sect. And the assasin came after the acting chairman of okene LG, 2. The mosque is behind the LG sect. 3. There was no bomb at the said church in lokoja, cos the church pastor later came out to say that it was just black polytn bag containing garbages that cause the panic. 4. All the attacks in okene is not carried out by boko haram but by political thugs under directives from their politicians.
Are you boko haram spokesman?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Five Year Old Muslim Girl Forced To Marry by Saintparis1: 7:54am On Aug 08, 2012
fellis:
No I don't regard him as such, he didn't set the stage for marrying under-aged.
The same issue that has been discussed on NL so many times is what you are trying to bring up again.
You can tire person. . . .

Huh He didn't set the stage? Muhammad asked aisha's hand in marriage when she was 6yrs and consummated the marriage when she was 9. C'mon quit the lying
Religion / Re: 11-year-old Girl Married To 40-year-old Man by Saintparis1: 7:47am On Aug 08, 2012
fellis: That picture in Op's post has been around the internet for years, I doubt that it is related to the story he told.
And there is no link attached to the OP to make matters worse.
Anyway forced marriages are prohibited in Islam. The bride has to be willing to marry the man before marriage can take place.

Would your 11yr old sis willing to marry that ancient looking man?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do All Muslims Pray In Arabic?? by Saintparis1: 7:44pm On Aug 07, 2012
Bélla3: does dat mean islam means submission?

I thought islam means peace cheesy
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Do All Muslims Pray In Arabic?? by Saintparis1: 7:39pm On Aug 07, 2012
Jesus was a muslim? Jews of today do the same thing moses did in his days. Why re they not considered as muslims as well?
Sports / Re: London 2012: 7 Cameroonian Athletes Abscond by Saintparis1: 7:36pm On Aug 07, 2012
Huh cheesy
Religion / Re: Bakare: Only Rich Men Should Rule by Saintparis1: 7:33pm On Aug 07, 2012
Islam for Muslims / Re: How Man Wives Did Muhammad Actually Have? by Saintparis1: 7:17pm On Aug 07, 2012
MacDaddy01:



grin grin grin grin

How old are you? Seriously? You couldnt answer the questions? Who is being deceitful?


This is good....vedaxcool will soon explode...... grin grin grin grin grin


Why are you using the hadith to abrogate the Quran? Even an atheist would never do that grin grin grin grin

Lmaogrin grin

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Politics / Re: Bomb Blast At Lokoja, Kogi State by Saintparis1: 11:32am On Aug 07, 2012
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Islam for Muslims / Re: How Man Wives Did Muhammad Actually Have? by Saintparis1: 11:12am On Aug 07, 2012
To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad , you all often mention that he married Safiyyah before he slept with her. But they forget to state that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period ( three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyah. cheesy

We shall now see how Muhammad had violated the rule of idda ( waiting period ) in marrying a woman. These rules are stipulated in the Qur'an thus; grin

Widows of wait four months and ten days for re-marriage...2:234
Surah2.234
YUSUFALI: If any of you die and leave widows behind, they shall wait concerning themselves four months and ten days: When they have fulfilled their term, there is no blame on you if they dispose of themselves in a just and reasonable manner. And Allah is well acquainted with what ye do.cheesy

Clearly, when Muhammad wanted to sleep or to have s3x with Safiyyah , she was a widow, technically, as Muhammad had already killed her husband.grin

Therefore, as per the Qur'an, Muhammad had to wait at least four months and ten days before he could even touch her. But Muhammad did not at all observe this rule ; instead, he took Safiyyah , straight from the battlefield to his bed in the war camp.cheesy grin cheesy grin

Having spent the night with her, Muhammad took her to another, safer location, stayed there for three days and consummated his marriage with Safiyyah.
Muhammad selected Safiyyah because of her beauty, made her his wife and gave a banquet at the wedding; then he had sex with Saffiyah at Sa`d-AsSahba…(Sahih Bukhari 4.52.143)

Ma'salam grin
Religion / Re: 11-year-old Girl Married To 40-year-old Man by Saintparis1: 10:01am On Aug 07, 2012
It's all divine. Muhammad did it too. grin bunch of pedophil1es grin
Politics / Re: Boko-Haram Razes Police Outpost In Sokoto by Saintparis1: 8:12am On Aug 07, 2012
Nextgrin
Religion / Re: Why Muslims Must Hate Jews by Saintparis1: 9:30pm On Aug 05, 2012
Wow. So much hate
Politics / Re: Bomb Blasts And Gunfire In Damaturu, Yobe State by Saintparis1: 7:52pm On Aug 05, 2012
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