First, nothing is wrong with masturbation. You need discipline. You cant separate the discipline needed for masturbation from discipline needed in other areas of your life. Don't let religion define your happiness. accept yourself.
Secondly, how do u define sex starvation. How many times does she give u in a week. If she can give u twice, i don't think you're starving. You just need discipline and adjustment

fourboys:
God no go give us this kind woman

You want the one that will be crying over your infidelity?

Bam2018:
When you are being prayed for and you praying for yourself which work faster?

None sir. Prayer is an illusion.

You sound like some in the university or a jobless guy who still walk women through endless stories. You cannot sustain a relationship without money. And for u not to know this means, is shocking. I have not met u but i have had friends like u. You are this kind of guys who is always under illusion with a lot of wishful thinking- wanting something to be true even when they are obviously never true.
Even the bible said, Money answereth all things. The only other thing that's assumed to answer all prayers is God. Money is more powerful than God if you ask me.

[quote author=hupernikao post=107312216]


When all you are exposed is a funny theology like this, how will you not end up becoming a man without conviction. Even if you are taught wrongly, it's proper that as you grow up to rethink on what you are taught and check well to know what was missing or what could be the interpretation.


Sadly for you, the energy you are to use to read properly and search, you have sold it to receive a heart that lack conviction even in what you hold as true now.

My advise for you
Always stay on things you know than exposing your inability to read simple text and understand usage of language in explaining events.


[You look to be like someone that even if your mother convinced you that your dead father is not your father, you will ignore the real truth in favour of the illusion you've always known. Swallow the pills, the father you've always thought to be your father is a LIE. You can interprete those passages whichever way you want to, those stories were just like the Stories of Oduduwa, Oranmiyan of Yoruba land. Exaggerated Lies.
So sad, i spent 30 years of my life believing them.]

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[quote author=Chuky7 post=107645856]Does Taking Antibiotics after raw sex prevent you from getting STD

[U might need to try my URINE. I was told recently by a spirit that he has equip my urine (just mine) with serious Antibiotics and Antiviral solutions to cure anything. ]

[quote author=hupernikao post=107646314]

You seems not to know what inspired mean as related to writings. You are used to see inspired as vision and things like that. This is why you are any separate inspiration in an events from in writing.

If I inspire you to write a story about Nigeria past, what it means is that I provided a template for your writings. You draw from my words and actions to documents that events.

This is different from if I inspire you to write my won story using events of the past as precursor for your explanation. This is what God did in Moses. (read this again) .

Bible is God's story not Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses etc. It's God's story about man. Know this first.



Now, for Bible, that inspiration must be seen in God's plan. God's inspiration of the Bible is not to document history even though history will be written in it. God's inspiration is to document God's plan both in the past and future. That's what the Bible writer did.

They were inspired (this is related to their mind) to write God's plan using events in the past to explain God's plan for humanity.


Such events historically may have deviations, other sources etc, but the the focus of those events are not to document history but use those history to explain God's plan.


Example
A key example is Noah's story, historically, Moses wasn't the first person to document this. At least 4 different versions existed in the ancient world before Moses was born.


But the inspiration on Moses was to use that story in history to explain God's plan. Moses writing is not to ascertain, accept or refute how Noah story was but to use the story to explain God's plan for humanity.


The moment you start seeing inspiration as I have to see through the past then you will fall into big error in Bible reading.


Moses documented most things already in existence, already practiced but used them to speak about God's plan from the beginning till the last days.

- Sabbath was practiced in Egypt before Moses
- temple were before Moses
- Sin and death were before Moses.
- Righteousness was before Moses.
- Passover was practice in ancient world before Moses.
- Ark of covenant too were used by the heathen

Moses didn't start any of this.
All these and more were things Moses adopted to explain God's plan.


Hence the inspiration of God in Moses writing is to use those things already in existence, those events already happened in the past to be able to use them and tell God's story. How he was able to put all those events, actions, symbols together to explain God's plan is the inspiration.

I HOPE YOU NOTICED HOW MANY TIMES I MENTIONED GOD'S PLAN in this write up. That should tell you the focus.

You will need to reread what I wrote 3 times to ensure you get this. You are mixing it up.

Thank you.

[OK. Maybe i should ask this question for clarity. Vision is through the eye, Audible voice (dictation) is through voice; that's hearing. What channel does inspiration follows since you said is not the celestial church kind of thing. Where u feel the spirit and start scattering chairs.]

[quote author=Healthyway15 post=107669403]

In most cases, a dip in energy levels after eating is a natural biological response. A little bit of sluggishness/sleepiness after eating is completely normal and nothing to worry about.

However, if this is getting in the way of your daily activities or affecting your quality of life, then the overwhelming tiredness after eating could be a sign of an underlying medical condition such as diabetes. Or abnormal body mechanism (a slight shift in blood flow away from the brain to the digestive organs, especially when eating).

Another one; the quantity of food you eat is another major factor in how you feel after a meal. Large meals rich in protein and carbohydrates are most likely to make people feel tired or sleepy.

You should practice the following lifestyle habit :
Try to reduce the portion size of your meals, and eat four or five smaller meals per day instead of three large meals per day. This allows your body to digest a manageable amount of food, every so often, throughout the day.
Drink more water and unsweetened beverages before and during meals. This will increase your rate of digestion while helping to fill you up, so you eat smaller portions.
After you eat, exercise at a moderate intensity for about 30 minutes.

Are you sure you usually have quality night sleep?

[I must first say thanks very much for this life saving advice, God bless.
I do sleep well at night or any other time. My left hand (being a lefty) do sleep off at night; like blood is no more flowing through. The hand will be heavy like wood; since i started exercise, that has gone. Those sensations even before i started gymming don't disturb my sleep at night. Fatigue sensations, i feel it all the time but much more worse after a meal. The peak is after meal, It dissipate slowly again
This thing destroy the muscles on my left thigh that i hardly can stand for 30 seconds. I recover my leg after one year exercise and ability to sit for a long time.
I will use this advice, God bless. ]

[quote author=hupernikao post=107646314]

You seems not to know what inspired mean as related to writings. You are used to see inspired as vision and things like that. This is why you are any separate inspiration in an events from in writing.

If I inspire you to write a story about Nigeria past, what it means is that I provided a template for your writings. You draw from my words and actions to documents that events.

This is different from if I inspire you to write my won story using events of the past as precursor for your explanation. This is what God did in Moses. (read this again) .

Bible is God's story not Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses etc. It's God's story about man. Know this first.



Now, for Bible, that inspiration must be seen in God's plan. God's inspiration of the Bible is not to document history even though history will be written in it. God's inspiration is to document God's plan both in the past and future. That's what the Bible writer did.

They were inspired (this is related to their mind) to write God's plan using events in the past to explain God's plan for humanity.


Such events historically may have deviations, other sources etc, but the the focus of those events are not to document history but use those history to explain God's plan.


Example
A key example is Noah's story, historically, Moses wasn't the first person to document this. At least 4 different versions existed in the ancient world before Moses was born.


But the inspiration on Moses was to use that story in history to explain God's plan. Moses writing is not to ascertain, accept or refute how Noah story was but to use the story to explain God's plan for humanity.


The moment you start seeing inspiration as I have to see through the past then you will fall into big error in Bible reading.


Moses documented most things already in existence, already practiced but used them to speak about God's plan from the beginning till the last days.

- Sabbath was practiced in Egypt before Moses
- temple were before Moses
- Sin and death were before Moses.
- Righteousness was before Moses.
- Passover was practice in ancient world before Moses.
- Ark of covenant too were used by the heathen

Moses didn't start any of this.
All these and more were things Moses adopted to explain God's plan.


Hence the inspiration of God in Moses writing is to use those things already in existence, those events already happened in the past to be able to use them and tell God's story. How he was able to put all those events, actions, symbols together to explain God's plan is the inspiration.

I HOPE YOU NOTICED HOW MANY TIMES I MENTIONED GOD'S PLAN in this write up. That should tell you the focus.

You will need to reread what I wrote 3 times to ensure you get this. You are mixing it up.

Thank you.

[I try to grab how this your definition of inspired can play out practically and i just cant genuinely figure it out believe you me. You sound as if God is a human being. How does God provide the template of past events to Moses without showing him visions and without meeting him or sending those documents to him. How is that possible when God cannot be seen. Where did they meet. Or u mean God enter inside Moses like Celestial Church thing. I just cant figure you out. What are u saying really. You make a whole lot of sensible explanation but didn't do well on the main subject of discussion which is how does God practically inspired people. Demonstrate it pls. At least, if you say Vision, dictation, i can connect quickly but i cannot connect with your own definition of inspired.]

[quote author=psucc post=107645814] just gone through. The sugar level is optimal. Hmmm. I don't know what else to advise.

But in all, tell God, he has an answer to the problem.

[quote author=Chuky7 post=107645856]Does Taking Antibiotics after raw sex prevent you from getting STD

[Do u normally watch wresting, you hear don't try this at home. HIV or any Heavy STD doesn't respond to any quick fix. Be careful. Don't be a victim of ignorance ]

[quote author=PastorSomba post=107644145]THE BLESSINGS AND BENEFITS OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS. Part 12.

Romans 6:3-5 (KJV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
2Corinthians 5:15-17; Romans 6:3-5; 8:11; 1Corinthians 2:7-8; 15:12-23; Hebrews 11:35;

Today we continue a new series of study titled THE BLESSINGS AND BENEFITS OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS to enable us to walk in the fullness of the resurrection power.

16. The new life of the spirit is a higher life. While the sons of Adam were born of the seed of a man, the new life is born of God and of the seed of the word of God. While the sons of Adam are born of the earth, the resurrected new creation is born of heaven and from heaven, having the spirit of God, the mind of God and the wisdom of God. 1Peter 1:23; 1Corinthians 2:10-16; 15:42-49; Romans 1:1-14; Ephesians 1:8-9,19-23; 2:4-6; 3:10;

17. The resurrection of Jesus is what brought salvation to all men. Not His coming, His birth, ministry or His death. He died for the sins of all mankind but He rose for the salvation of all. Without the resurrection His death would have been in vain. God's plan in Christ resurrection is so that no man will go to hell. Hell was created only for Satan and the fallen angels, not for any man. When Adam sinned he and all mankind took on the nature of the devil, as a result became joint partakers of hell with the devil.

God sent Jesus to pay the price of sin for all men so that man will not follow the devil to hell. By the resurrection Jesus came to change the nature of man. The old nature or old life was for hell but the new nation, the new creation and the new life is for heaven. Now after the resurrection of Jesus, whoever goes to hell is not a matter of whether you are a good or bad person but a matter of nature. The old nature is evil and devilish but the new nature is divine. Whoever ends up in hell it is not God who sent him there but a matter of choice. It is not their sins that sends people to hell but their sin of rejection of the new life in Christ Jesus.

The new life is the future of the world, the old life is passing away forever. Just as only the sons of Adam are permitted to live on earth now, so also after judgement in the new earth and the new heaven only the sons of Jesus Christ the new man will live on the new earth. The resurrection of Jesus not only created a new man and a new life but has also made all things new including, a new creation, a new man, a new nation called the church, a new peculiar people, a new heaven and a new earth. All these are what constitutes the kingdom of God. Except a man is born anew he cannot be part of the kingdom of God. Matthew 25:41; John 3:3-8,16-17; Titus 2:11-12; Ephesians 1:7; 4:22-24; Revelation 1:5; 1Corinthians 15:17,21-22; Genesis 3:1-24; Romans 5:12; 6:4-6; Galatians 4:4-6; 6:15; 2Corinthians 5:17; 1Peter 2:9; Colossians 3:10;

The bottom line of all what we are saying is that God wants you to begin to see yourself in the eyes and light of all that the resurrection of Jesus has done for you and has made you. And no more in your fleshly natural sin nature so that you can begin to enjoy the fullness of the blessings of the mystery of the resurrection power which includes eternal life and freedom from sin, sickness, diseases, poverty, demonic oppression, fear, doubts, anxieties and death.

If you need healing the bible says In Matthew 8:17 that Jesus Himself took all our sicknesses and diseases. Therefore you can receive your healing now by faith in the name of Jesus. Just lay your hand on the affected area and say this prayer. Father God in the name of Jesus I believe that Jesus died for my healing. I believe He took all my sickness and diseases on the cross. If He took them, then I cannot have them. Therefore I resist and I reject every sickness in my body and I confess Jesus today as my healer and I receive my healing now. Thank you Jesus that I am healed. 1Peter 2:24; Ps 107:20.
Now begin to do what you couldn't do before because of the sickness. You are healed in Jesus name.

Jesus is coming very soon. Are you ready? Heaven is real, hell is real. The time is very short. Choose Jesus today.
You can become a born again child of God today. The bible says If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9-10; John 1:12.

Say this prayer: O God have mercy on me. I come to you today in the name of Jesus. I believe in my heart that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He died for me. I believe that you raised Him from the dead for my salvation from all the powers of the devil. I accept Jesus in my heart today and I confess Him today as my Lord and Saviour. Thank you Father that today I am saved In Jesus name.

If you prayed this prayer of Salvation, please go to a nearby bible believing Church in your area, so you can grow in the grace of our Lord Jesus. Grace be with you.

Grace be with you.

Pastor Ornu Somba


[There is no RESSURECTION. The romans killed Jesus and that was it. It was a fairy tale. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who...……. Why will God sacrifice himself to himself when you can just ask for forgiveness and he will say go and sin no more. Or is there anything hard for God to do? If you loved someone to a point you can give your son (not even only son) for that person, that love cant make you watch that person burn in fire forever. After 10,000 years, that love will make you remove him/her from fire. after all what have i done. I have never kill before, only little issue. I know religious people will pick it up and say there is no small sin but the love that can make someone give only son will also make him so benevolent that he will free me after 10,000 years in fire. John 3:16 is one of the most contradictory scripture ever written. The question is, who actually make that statement in John 3:16 because it wasn't even Jesus. The point is, Jesus is not the savior of the world. ]

[quote author=psucc post=107638594]Have you been tested for sugar? It might be the culprit.

Just walk into any clinic and do FBS. Whatever the result, let's start from there.

[I have done that several times. Find attached the most recent test. Sugar is part of it]

I have this unknown medical condition for the past 9 years. It deplete my muscle strength and gives me fatigue after meal. Fatigue that takes hours to dissipate. A slight fatigue sensation still remain with me all day. it is just most severe after meal. I left hand sometimes becomes heavy, like blood not flowing through it when sleeping in the night. I have gone through several medical test and procedures, it has been called several hypothetical names. I started going to the gym since last year and my muscle strength has returned but the fatigue after meal remains. Any advise will be highly appreciated.

You are on the path way to understanding how things works really but you're not there yet. There is no Heaven and even if there is one, human beings are not going there. The old testament of the Christian book (which is for me is far more trustworthy than the one claimed to have came down from heaven) has no hell or heaven in it. Such concept were alien before Jesus, then where did it suddenly came from? U might want to know the answer.

That's not a pay back. she just lost the more. In fact, she has just invalidated my doubt for dumping her. You gave my father a piece of pussy, how is that my business. The old man has been fucking pussies b4 I was born. I can't figure out how my ex fucking my dad has any 'getting back at' in it. Payback?

[quote author=hupernikao post=107546530]

Your response only picked part of what i wrote and didnt consider the whole view of the writing. This is also what happens to many bible reader who doesnt consider the whole view of the bible but interpret them in partial knowledge.

You have left out the key aspect of my statement and also the bible stand point, that the writers were inspired (guided) by God. The writings were said to be divine.
That will answer the two points you put up there. So, take all i wrote to consideration not just part.

[This inspired you're always smuggling in, you've not been able to define inspired. If it is not a vision and not dictated, then it just like you writing it and sprinkling the name of god on it. Past events can only comes to you in a Vision or Someone dictated them to you. Inspiration can only help you bring out an idea not a true life story. Maybe you need to define your own inspiration. If Paul had written about the life of Jesus from inspiration, would you have found it acceptable? If you are not there, youre not there. My submission is this: Moses didnt write Genesis. Genesis is just a compilations of legendary and fictitious stories of Oduduwa and Oranmiya and the likes.
what God did in Moses is to inspire him to document these events If you say, he showed him a vision, i can understand, if you say he dictated those past events to him, i can understand but how can u inspired past events. Ideas can be inspired but not live events. And mind u, the bible never claimed they were dictated or revealed through visions. Or by inspiration, you mean celestial church kind of thing. You cannot see past events if it is not a vision or someone dictating it. NO WAY. ]

[quote author=hupernikao post=107330612]


The major challenge here is that you arent reading my responses, you are holding an assumption in your mind and just scan through what i wrote so as to give another argument. We will only continue in circle if you arent ready to read and read well.

Your issues is in two folds, but you seems not to be patient to handle them

Now pay attention
Moses writings was not premised on visions, if that is what you think. This is the reasons i want you to understand what inspiration is first.


I will try to explain how of Moses writings in its most basic form.


Was Moses Writings through a vision?
Moses wrote stories that span over 2000 years before he was born, hence it is a genuine concern to ask how was he able to write such when he wasnt there. Of course there is a school of taught that assumed Moses was given in a vision or given by God directly. The truth is there is no scriptural backing or explanation for such that all those narratives were through visions or communication with God.

The key thing to know is this: that the reason Moses wrote was to document God's plan within humanity over the years.

Who are Moses Primary Audience?
Dont forget, that Moses never wrote to the whole world, he wrote to his people (Israel) even though God has a bigger plan to reach the world. But in Moses mind at the point of writing, he was solving a problem within the Israel nations. HE WAS TO BRING THEM BACK TO GOD.

This is the essence of writing Genesis.

For example the story of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob wasnt known to Moses alone, these Fathers were known by the Israel nation. They have their stories told from generations to generations even before Moses was born.

- Abraham instructed Isaac in God's way
- Isaac did same for Jacob
- Jacob taught his children about his God, prayed even for his grandchildren using God's name.

It was not hidden.
- Joseph, before his death spoke to the Israel about God's plan and his bones.

This is how they passed God's ordinance via oral tradition.


This is to let you know that their stories were told, in generations. The Israelites know them even before Moses was born. All the stories were told, they were taught from their childhood to know God. That is the culture of the Jews. For example, account of Noah's stories exist before Moses was born.


Observe Moses first encounter with God

Exo 3
4 So when the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!”
And he said, “Here I am.”
5 Then He said, “Do not draw near this place. Take your sandals off your feet, for the place where you stand is holy ground.” 6 Moreover He said, “I am the God of your father—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look upon God.

In that first encounter, God told Moses that He is the God of his fathers (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Moses never argued that or say he didnt know what that means. he must have been taught by his mother, also Mariam about Abraham/Isaac/Jacob and their God. He understood clearly what that means. Those stories were preserved by ORAL COMMUNICATION through their fathers.


This is synonymous to how African preserved their culture and stories in folklores, how china preserved their folklores in music etc. There was a way ancient information were preserved even before man starts to write. It should be obvious to you that Moses was likely the very first Jew to know how to write considering his education and exposure.


So What Did God Inspire Moses to Do?

Knowing fully well now that God's word and His plan were communicated over the ages through their fathers and generations, what God did in Moses is to inspire him to document these events. Moses is the first in Israel, first of those God used to document this plan, this is what led to the writing. He wrote the stories they already knew but with a definite revelation of God's plan revealed through his writings.


Why was it necessary?
God's plan are in his words, hence for man to understand God's plan, he must first understand his words. Moses documentation provided a medium for the beginning of this documentation and the availability of God's plan to man.

Hence, Moses writings (Genesis), even through were the documentation of past events which were well known among his people. His writings did not only just document the stories they already knew but explained to them (us) in greater insight and revelation, God's plan for humanity.

Therefore:

1. The inspiration to write them down was God
2. What he wrote were already in the traditions of the Jews taught and preserved through oral tradition
3. The documents also fully explained and revealed God's plan in a better way and communicable way to the audience


I hope this is clear to you now?
You may need to read it again before commenting.

["Those stories were preserved by [b]ORAL COMMUNICATION through their fathers" [/b]This is exactly my point. Error and lies do crept in regarding any history through ORAL COMMUNICATION. There is no exception, it's always the case. Always. I have had more than 20 conflicting story about same event in the Nigeria civil war. An event that just happened less than 60 years ago. The Chinese and all the others you mentioned never refers to those scripts as infallible by any stretch. Why will u think all the events documented in Genesis happened precisely as been told; which we all knows it wasn't the case. Even if u think they are fallible, that's not the stands of the Church. Yours is just like shifting the goal post when a goal is about to be scored. Adam and Eve is one example, it was just a creation myth copied and pasted. The stories in Genesis are told like a video documentary or as though an eye witness told them. I can guarantee you, a whole lot of them are legends. [b]"That is the culture of the Jews. For example, account of Noah's stories exist before Moses was born." [/b]It was more than 1000 years before Moses. This is like Oduduwa and Oranmiyan stories in Yoruba land. These stories are 70% lies, exaggerations and fictions. Yorubas have creation myth and if they have been fortunate enough to receive the religious mandate, that creation myth would have been the one we would be reading today. It would have been certified Gold and unfalsifiable once it finds it ways inside the scriptures. Ridiculous stories becomes legitimate once they appear in religious books. Noah and the others are just like Oduduwa Oranmiyan and the rest.
]

[quote author=Workch post=107339159]Omniscience and freewill are incapatible.
There's no need for big grammars and long articles.

Religion is just ridiculous and that's not surprising

[You have finished this whole discussion. They are incompatible. People on this platform have all attempted to reconcile the 2. And mind u anything can be reconciled, all you need to do is come up with an implausible case scenario to do that. That doesn't help anyone.]

[quote author=hupernikao post=107322546]


You are confusing inspiration via writings with eye witness account.

Inspiration of the Bible is first of all in the documentation. The moment you see the word scriptures (grapho), it simply means what is written down, not what is said. Hence
Tim 3:16, all scriptures are inspired by God, means the documentation, the writing.

That means, it's not referring to the actors, the speakers, or the events but the documentation. That first said.


We also have events, words and actions that are inspired in the scriptures. But not all events and actions you read in the Bible are inspired by God, but the documentation of them all is inspired for you and I to be able to read.

For example

Satan spoke in the bible
Haters of God spoke
The disobedient spoke.

These speaking weren't God's inspiration, but the author was inspired to write them. That is what scriptures inspired mean.


So, was Moses inspired to document, to write the books he wrote? Yes. He was inspired to grapho, to put it in writings.

This doesn't mean he was there or he was the actor all through, doesnt even have to be an eye witness. All he needed to do is to document God's plan in writing which you now have.


I hope this is clear.

When this is clear, then we can look at how Moses was able to write it if he wasn't there during the events.

{What you've just done is create further confusion as you guys always do. The simple question i asked you is What is inspired. Does it mean God dictated it to the person or he saw a vision of past events that he was not part of or a trance or through what channel does this stories comes to Moese. Because the detail account in Genesis requires an eye witness. Will u accept the stories of Jesus in Matthew if Matthew wrote everything about Jesus out of Inspiration without consulting eye witnesses. Will you accept if Paul had written Jesus account solely from inspiration without consulting eye witness. How did Moses wrote a whole detail account of Isaac, Jacob even Abraham when he wasn't physically there. Define inspiration in details .

What age did you discovered Adam and Eve was a stone age POEM. Those two never existed.

[quote author=hupernikao post=107312216]


When all you are exposed is a funny theology like this, how will you not end up becoming a man without conviction. Even if you are taught wrongly, it's proper that as you grow up to rethink on what you are taught and check well to know what was missing or what could be the interpretation.


Sadly for you, the energy you are to use to read properly and search, you have sold it to receive a heart that lack conviction even in what you hold as true now.

My advise for you
Always stay on things you know than exposing your inability to read simple text and understand usage of language in explaining events.

[Listen sir, Genesis is acclaimed to have been written by Moses who wasn't even alive when many of those things happened. If i ask you now, you will run to inspired. Inspired doesn't mean dictated. Then what does inspired means precisely. Inspired just means you wrote it by researches, data and eyes witnesses info. or what else. Those accounts in Genesis are feeble stories or legendary stories gathered together for our consumption. the are fairy tales from the period human being knew nothing about nothing.

Jesus never resurrected. The Romans killed him. thats all. Jesus was used. period. Most of things the gospel claimed Jesus said, he didn't say them. If Jesus should come back and read the gospel, he will be shocked about many things written about him. Same goes for Mohammed. They were used.

[quote author=SocialJustice post=107300752]Go soak garri make you get sense. There are skeletal remains to prove niphilims existed.


[I find it hard why people are quick to identify legendary stories else where but not in their holy book. It didn't happen. suck it.
There was never a time any other specie was fucking humans. Humans have always Bleep humans. The story of Jesus was from those kind of ideas. Joseph Bleep Mary and release inside her. That was how they got Jesus. Mark was the first gospel and it was written at least 30 years after the death of Jesus; which is atleast about 62 years after the birth of Jesus. The virgin birth was a legend. How does the person that wrote it knows.

God came down to scatter the language of people that are building just 2 story building while we have more than 2000 storey buildings in Dubai now. The question though is, which God are they talking about? He look like a God that is involved in our affairs directly from the sky. We don't have such a God. This was a period when men thought God is behind the sky and the world is the only planet; since that's all they know. What people are willing to accept as God changes as they know more. It was a feeble story.

[quote author=alphaNomega post=107300085]Abeg make Una save us all this stress, by now we should all know those stories are false

[Thank u sir. ]

The virgin birth has always been around even before Jesus was born. In Genesis, It was said, the children of God always came down to have sex with the daughters of men. That didn't happen for real. It was just the usual myth that has been circulating around for centuries that gods sometimes comes down to meet with women and then, you have half man and half God. Same narratives can be used for Jesus even though Christians will arrogantly explain it away.

Why will it be punishment for a sheep to have a Lionheart.

[quote author=TheArranger post=74519860]Just to clarify, I am not debating free will in general, as that is a completely different topic.

God's plan, put simply, is that we would be tested on Earth, and those of us who were good would go to heaven. I have always been told that this includes us having free will. However, God is said to be omnipotent. If God can see the future, than it is predetermined, and therefore, we can't have free will. If we don't have free will, God is knowingly sending people towards damnation, is he not?

In my opinion God's omnipotence contradicts the requirement for free will in God's plan.

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[You're correct, it did contradict it don't mind all these people shifting the goal post here. They are all making claims the bible didn't support.
The bible at all junctions make it clear God knows the beginning from the end. Before your mother conceived you, i knew you. I am the Alpha and Omega. How can you be the beginning and the end if you don't know both end - end. God was able to predict the future in details at different points in the bible. And there is no where the bible also support the claimed that God toned down his ability to know for FREEWILL.
People have to stop using mystery to resolve mystery. It is better you say, I don't know. You mustn't resolve all contradictions you find in your religion. All religion have unreconcilable contradictions. Well you can resolve them if you insist. All you need to do is come up with implausible case scenarios that are not necessarily true. How is it helpful to do that. ]

[quote author=Vic2Ree post=74519892]You cause what God knows based on your choices, because God can’t know what you do unless you do it. You aren’t restricted by what God knows, God’s knowledge is restricted by what you do. It is logically fallacious to say God knowing something negates the possibility of choice, this commits the modal logic fallacy. He only knows the things you do because you do them, and him knowing does not negate choice. This isn’t some apologetics hand-waving to justify beliefs, this is proven logic by unbiased sources.


[You dealt with it like an academic exercise. But your position as good as it looks, is not what the scripture teaches. Is like shifting the goal post. When you sensed an opponent will soon score a goal, you ran away with the goal post. The bible said, before you were conceived, i knew you. I am the Alpha and Omega. The bible at every junction categorically claimed God knows everything in every details. I am not asking for personal opinions, because we only know God through the bible, you don't know him personally. There is no where the bible accepted this your famous claim "because God can’t know what you do unless you do it. You aren’t restricted by what God knows, God’s knowledge is restricted by what you do" It is a FALLACY carved to support God.]. According to the bible, nothing restricts God knowledge.

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It is the combination of omniscience and omnipotence that contradicts free will.

God's omnipotence means that he had the power to design the world such that every human would make any particular set of decisions every step of the way. By designing the world the way he did, and having the foreknowledge of every single one of the trillions of trillions of decisions that would be made based on each detail of design, god necessarily determined (and effectively decreed) every single one of those decisions that every human would make. The only way he could not have is if he temporarily restricted his own omnipotence and/or omniscience at the point of creation. There seems to be no credible theist who has provided evidence that god turned down either of those characteristics.

[The bible doesn't support any claim that God tone down his omniscience ability for FREEWILL. Is like shifting the goal post when a goal is about to be scored.]