If you have ever seen it on any decent lady, then maybe it could just be harmless but the class/category of ladies who wear them says a lot to the discerning mind. From the comments for, it's obvious those who wear for fashion do so for the seductive aspect of fashion. Decent and godly ladies don't have their minds daily focused on seductive fashion. That leaves out the other category, who don't give a heck doing anything for money. Expect anything dating such.

egbabiekperemo1:


Pls shut up. U just wrote rubbish

You just typed nonsense because you have no sense.

Still so hard for folks to distinguish between Christianity and religion. Topic for another day.

To the discourse, humans were created for God's pleasure and purposes and will forever have that natural inclination to worship Him and contrary to what Mr. Reno has posited, many folks find it a lot easier to worship God, attend services, participate in church activities, when they're a lot comfortable financially and have less to worry about. It's my experience that when the credit alerts increase and bills get settled without stress, I am easily able to create time to attend extra church programs, because of the reduced hustling time. Majority of folks who attend church services these days are very comfortable financially. There was never a boom in church attendance in the days when the saying; "as poor as a church rat" prevailed. The attendance boom came with the prosperity insights and experience of today's glorious church.

That said, poverty is what actually drives people away from worshipping God as they tend to seek other means to overcome it. An hungry man will hardly be able to observe morning devotions talk more of the fare and other expenses of attending church services. Poor folks are even scared of offering time during services. The church has been doing a great job especially in Africa, giving people hope, changing their lots through spiritual principles that deliver them from poverty, hence doing what most African Government's have been unable to do. The continued triumphs of the church in Africa is the only reason the continent isn't up in flames right now. You may say there's so much corruption but if not for messages from the altar of God, changing people's attitudes, it would have spiralled out of control. The folks who travel out and forget God isn't because they're more comfortable, it's more often than not because they're working 2/3 jobs to keep up with being second class citizens in a foreign land, where bills must be settled to continue to enjoy infrastructure provided by the Government.

Lakewood church, The Potter's House and many other churches in the US are megachurches populated by vibrant young and rich folks.

So, next time you're looking to blame anything, blame your governments.

Life well lived. Did the only useful thing there is. Impacted the world for Jesus Christ. Read the 4th Dimension as a teenager.

Tpc:
You went about it the wrong way, and this is what kills us Nigerians. We don't know how so we condem.


You don't go to a receptionist and tell her to sign company money to you.
Customer care are receptionist.

You were supposed to ask for the loan department. Either business loans or retail loans, personal loans are only for those with salary accounts.

Giving you a loan depends on only 1 factor, your DTI, debt to income ratio. How much are you earning to be able to pay that debt.
So if you walk into any bank you are 99% likely to be refused because you don't have a track record of income, but if you talk to your accounts officer of your bank, where you have a good track record of income, then you are 99% likely to get that loan.

Thank God for Fintech companies also, if you understand debt management, stock and bonds you can raise unsecured loan from your phone nowadays.

It just depends on how much risk and mode of payment for income you are willing to put into your effort.

Remember, omo dis na 9ja,shine your eye and double your Hussle, always ask

You're right, but even if he talked to the folks in the right department, he may still get same dumb reply. I have spoken to such in the past who aren't even aware of interventions such as the DBN, clearly advertised by their own bank websites. Now, you don't apply to DBN directly, your commercial bank must channel it. Case closed if your bank nor even know wetin dem suppose do.

othermen:
Hehe.

I expect you to reflect on the issues she raised and consider how you can improve on the presentation of your proposal or idea, then approach other banks; but instead you are taking it all personal. Asking here, about how others were able to access such facility would have been better appropriate.

The banks business is not actually to invest in your idea, they try to give viable loans. The onus is on you to convince them. You should look at that banks bad debt. They meet thousands of folks like you now and then seeking to finance their ideas or business. And so they know that passion doesn’t take the place of a good, viable and feasible endeavor.

For a small or medium size enterprise, you should even be looking at how you can raise finance at a reasonable cost of capital that doesn’t weigh down your expected rate of return. Evaluate alternatives such as business angels and venture capital, crowdfunding or even government assistance and Islamic financing.

But if it must be a bank or even another source , then the next bank you approach, ask for the procedures on getting a loan. Prepare a convincing investment appraisal report, highlight your other sources of finance ( equity for instance) , show your versatility, by highlighting the likely challenges you may face and how you are sure to overcome it, remember again, to have knowledge of your application procedures, the secretary or security officer won’t appraise your proposal, they are only there to help with direction… while you do the above and even more, look out for shark loan givers, they may not structuredly interrogate your proposal, because all they want is you getting in their trap.

The whole point is see this as a learning experience; improve, take your file and step out tomorrow, much more confidently. Set aside your grudges, the lady was nice giving you some great feedback, others may take you for a long futile ride and make you waste your transport and energy and resources.

While your points here are valid and the OP should make use of one or two of them, the fact is most of those bank employees are plain daft, rigid and unknowledgeable even about products on their bank websites. One such place to discuss great ideas should likely be the corporate affairs department at the HQ's of banks, perchance one may meet more knowledgeable, flexible and creative folks there. You see those ones at the branch offices, 90% of them are confirmed zombies. They just garbage in and out.

Wouldn't it be nicer if comments were based on experience?

The Bible admonishes in Jude verse 20, which has only a chapter for believers to "build up their faith, praying in the HolySpirit". What does that mean? A believer can surely stir up the Spirit by constantly praying in the Spirit(speaking in tongues), as the Holy Spirit helps to align his/her prayers with God's will. That's what Paul meant when he mentioned the HolySpirit helping our infirmities in the book of Romans, as sometimes we do not honestly know what or how we should pray. e.g you wake up fatigued and not in the mood to pray. At such times, start with speaking in tongues and watch as the Spirit helps you pray for even much longer than you normally will.

Now, the fact that the folks from different nations understood what the apostles said on the day of Pentecost doesn't mean we should think it happens that way all the time. You can't put God in a box. For Pete's sake, there was a crowd and it was the first time to happen. It was obviously expedient at the time. The fact that you don't understand what someone has spoken in tongues doesn't invalidate it as someone else may, if it will serve the Spirit's purpose. Doubting thomases and generation of vipers will hardly see the sign they so much demand.

Interpretation is only required when someone is delivering a message of the Spirit to a congregation for the sake of understanding/edification, so that the congregants can carry out the Spirit's instructions. Isn't that common sense?

For experience, when I pray in the Spirit, it as an added advantage, helps me communicate expressly with God if and when I switch to my own understanding as the Spirit brings to my memory scriptures which align with my requests and demands, causing me not to use my own ordinary and sometimes selfish words but what God has said in scriptures. With that, I've always had 100% confidence my prayers are answered and that's been my reality. I always get results.

To the OP's question, every one who has surrendered and confessed the Lord Jesus has the Holy Spirit in them and should speak in tongues. What hinders most people is mostly wrong doctrines that it happens like magic with your tongue twisted and speaking exact foreign languages, like a lot of folks on this platform seem to believe. As a kid, I prayed and fasted intensely hoping for that magic to happen to no avail until I saw the truth in God's word.

Don't let the devil deny you of the great benefits of praying in tongues because you're waiting for that kind of magic. Praying in tongues has saved me from a very fatal accident. That day, I had said my morning prayers already in my understanding and was rounding up when I was moved to pray in the Spirit. Thank God I did. Little did I know what was to happen that day.

The Holy Spirit is a gift Jesus Christ promised to believers to be their comforters as well as teach them all things. Fill yourself up with the word of God, simply open your mouth and the Holy Spirit will fill it.

Each believer is given utterance by the HolySpirit with a responsibility of constantly stirring up the Spirit in spiritual songs, hymns, psalms, prayers etc. No need to learn from another believer.

It all depends on your taste.

One sure thing; the said amount can build a conservative 2/3bed bungalow to habitable standards, floor, wall and other finishes excluded.

By habitable standards, I mean you can have a simple roof system, entrance and exit security doors, windows(sliding ones maybe), basic toilet and kitchen fittings and a screeded floor, enough for you to inhabit till cash flow increases.

Pathokpo:

What is a man's and a woman's garment. My friend do you know culture is relative? Culture changes across time and space. Only the intellectually sound would understand what I am talking about.

Yes, the scripturally sound more like. It's religious misunderstanding of the Word that makes people think like that. Just like the case of alcohol, most things religion term as sin are actually more like common sense principles that humans should naturally imbibe, but for the hardness of men's hearts, had to be stated as laws in the old testament. The scripture actually uses the word "pertains", which means "belongs" as a part, member or accessory.

Deuteronomy 22:5
[5]The woman shall not wear that which pertains to a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all that do so are an abomination to the Lord your God.

Why on earth would you want to wear your sister's feminine high waist denim? Isn't that naturally stupid? Much like smoking that the ministry of health warns that those who do are liable to die young, yet you find mature folks engage in it against all common sense.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
This Catholic priest must be a real niggar...

I love the fact he stated drinking enough beer is not a sin.....


Bar man give me more bottles this Sunday morning
As a real niggar I understand that the word of God warms the soul but only a good beer warms the belly....

This is why sometimes I will always say Catholicism over pentecostalism anyday anytime twice on Sunday morning

Drinking alcohol is not a sin o, but hear what the Word of God says about the experiences of those who indulge in it.

Proverbs 23:29-32
[29]Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness and dimness of eyes?
[30]Those who tarry long at the wine, those who go to seek and try mixed wine. [Prov. 20:1; Eph. 5:18.]
[31]Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the wineglass, when it goes down smoothly.
[32]At the last it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder.

The choice is yours.

Very sure you saw red wine mentioned in the text. That's how complete the Bible is.

Nostalgic indeed. HALITA is even more fantastic and the only series worth watching on DSTV, others are recycled stories, actors and producers.

Kobojunkie:
Your churches are not to be confused with the Church that belongs to Jesus Christ, as the very foundations of your churches happen to be laid on doctrines and traditions of men, an abomination to God and the Truth of God.

Even your pastors and your Mogs are the very false prophets Jesus Christ warned you are nothing but thieves come to steal, kill and destroy His flock.

The Kingdom of God exists outside of your churches which are instwad kingdoms built here to the gkodu of of men that are masters over them. Once you stop confusing the one for the other, you too will hopefully see the Truth that has been right before all for over 2000 years now.

Its now crystal clear where you belong. For your information, we are not unaware of your esoteric company, the likes that seek to attain a state they call christ in competition with Christ himself. Your understanding of the scriptures can't be confused with true Holy Spirit inspiration, for the devil himself knows the Word, which is why I refrained from a quoting competition with you.

In your pursuit, I really do hope and pray you come to a screeching halt just before you're plunged into the same ignominy those who went ahead of you seeking knowledge in the wrong places, found themselves. On this forum, your mischievous devices are of none effect on every child of God, active and passive in the precious Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is Lord. The devils know it also and tremble. That includes you.

Kobojunkie:
Your churches are part and parcel of that very erroneous belief system, even if you don't realize it still, and this from their very inception. So, there is nothing paradoxical about my comments since I base them solely on the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ Himself, the one whom may who have veered off in every direction possible, except towards Him, claim to worship.

You really don't have to be up against the same church of Jesus Christ you claim to base your comments on. If there are insights you have and feel others don't, isn't it better to submit totally to God's calling and enlighten from the inside out just like Pastor Chris of C.E has done for so many years and today, a lot of wrong perceptions have been changed.

You shouldn't be for the kingdom and then be against her, at the same time.

Kobojunkie:
More than just that, I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Why do you ask?

Sorry, got into something else.

I ask because of the paradoxical nature of your comments with a subtleness that seems kind of anti-church(careful not to use anti-Christ), even though you seem to have a knowledge that challenges likely erroneous beliefs systems, which has been setting you up against most other people here.

Any which way, I am interested in having the full details of your thoughts on the topics at hand. Kindly go on.

Kobojunkie:
If you havea question about anything I have stated, ask.

I am not the one muddling things up here. You are! Baptism of the Spirit of God does not happen when you are saved...instead what happens when you become saved & born-again, this as Jesus Christ explained to you in John 3 vs 1 - 21, is that you are born of Spirit(not to be confused with Holy Spirit). Formerly, you were just a physical being but when you are born-again, you are given a new spirit by God - Ezekiel 36 vs 24 - 25, and again, this new Spirit is not to be confused with the Holy Spirit.

Interesting, go on please.

Kobojunkie:
If you havea question about anything I have stated, ask.

I am not the one muddling things up here. You are! Baptism of the Spirit of God does not happen when you are saved...instead what happens when you become saved & born-again, this as Jesus Christ explained to you in John 3 vs 1 - 21, is that you are born of Spirit(not to be confused with Holy Spirit).

Are you a believer?

Interesting thread, full of insights. Pray the eyes of those who are yet to know Christ will be opened to see what they're actually missing out on. Carrying all of The Fullness of God literally everywhere you go, in the person of The Holy Spirit isn't something to miss out on at all. I have spoken to batteries, phones et al and they start working by the Power of The Holy Spirit, in the Name of Jesus. Such wonderful daily experiences.

Still deciphering kobojunkie's motive though but s/he sounds like s/he is for the kingdom with knowledge that I agree with, to a large extent. What I find contradictory however, are the attacks against the Kingdom s/he seems to know much about.

My understanding of his/her point on this thread is the fact that there are growth stages in Christ even though I think s/he muddled it up with The Baptism of The Holy Spirit, which happens once and at the point of salvation and not as a result of any personal effort.

Being filled with The Spirit however as some have already posited, is a command we should obey to constantly stay in fellowship.

Whether or not there's a higher spiritual class that God is able to promote us to, based on our maturity in the things of God, is something for us all to research. The Word after all says; "The path of the just shines brighter and brighter unto the perfect day".

Bash92:

Just came to say the same, I believe that is Dapo. The guy is doing well, a shame on the judges over there on Nigerian Idol

What you said is an understatement. It was crystal clear from the kick off of the final showdown Kingdom was miles ahead of the others. That only means one thing; the show ain't competitive.

The issue really is a lot of folks can't fathom the excellence and glory being displayed by the Church. They had erroneous beliefs thinking that if it wasn't poor, ugly, cringing and maybe gullible, it shouldn't be righteous or holy. So, when the church displays excellence in it's administration and other aspects of existence, their minds can't accept it.

They prefer to continue with "the as poor as a church rat" or even the "holy people always dress unattractively" mentality. So, they couldn't even imagine church getting rich, talk more of putting in place common sense mechanisms in ensuring it's development. On the other hand, they prefer it that way, so the church can remain ineffective and lose souls that otherwise should be saved. But they haven't seen anything yet. They're still envious of church organisations now. Very soon, they'll start losing sleep over the blessedness and effectiveness of individual believers worldwide.

walexProjects:
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Xandre:
...
And any of the top 10 in The voice would have easily clinched the Nigerian Idol Title.

You're right.

stancydg:
The above mentioned music reality show currently running on DSTV and GOTV platforms may likely be the "wackiest" (for want of words) music reality show in recent times going by the quality of opinions thus far by the jury, made up of a 3man panel of Obi Asika; a Record Label Exec, Seyi Shay; a perpetual upcoming artiste going by the unpopularity of most, if not all her songs and DJ Sose; who at best is skillful at selecting songs that'll mostly appeal to club audiences.

One would have thought the record label executive in the person of Asika, who ordinarily should have been exposed to artistes of various kinds, will as a father figure, be in full control of the selection process, by way of influencing the opinions of the others even though the antecedents of past judges on the show clearly sets a pace for divergence in opinions that in the end, engenders a robust decision for or against the candidates. This is terribly in deficit this time on the show, as as much as a snarl from the perpetual upcoming artiste is enough influence of the opinions of two supposedly mature and independently minded men. Sose even managed to take his obvious lack of knowledge of music and consequently, a lack of sound judgement to annoying levels by always concurring to whatever Seyi Shay breathes, despite his body language telling otherwise.

All of the above is obvious in the audition of the young music producer, whose image you'll find attached to this post. I can bet that IK, the show host was shell shocked that the young man had to be turned down for no reasonable point, except for displaying his musical dexterity. If that's a crime, then pray tell me what Idols is all about?

I was part of the very first Idol show in Nigeria that produced the likes of Timi Dakolo and Omawunmi and what I can clearly remember is that singing foreign songs or even displaying your vocal dexterity wasn't a crime. If it was compulsory for candidates to do local pangolo songs for the show to be seen as "Nigerian Idol", like Miss Shay foolishly posits, then I dare the show organisers to switch the nomenclature to "Naija Oosa/Ojuju etc" and compel the judges to speak Yoruba, Hausa and Igbo.

Besides, in the first Idol show in Nigeria, the jury made up of seasoned music industry legend like Dede Mabiaku, Radio Joc; Dan Foster and a Ghanian lady popularly referred to as "It's not werking for me" had their independent opinions of the candidates even though one out of the trio always played the devil's advocate.

Question now is; who the hell is the devil's advocate that'll ensure a robust decision making process in the ongoing Idol show, when from all we see, all trio are sleeping with their heads in the same direction??

Reason the current panel needs to be disbanded, asides the joke Seyi Shay has made of the show by unprofessionally making mockery of young chaps she is meant to encourage, thereby wreaking psychological damages that may be indelible in the lives of the up and coming generation.

PS: I don't know the guy being auditioned in the attached pictures as I am speaking for countless others that are in my opinion, obviously far ahead of the judges musically, but were turned down.

Eventually, it turns out this guy that was dropped and almost insulted during the audition stages of Nigerian Idols by the judges, makes it to the top 6 on The Voice Nigeria.

Isn't that amazing? Moral: Always believe in yourself.

In the mood of the holidays, let's get some lucky folks building their new homes with free building design sketches. After all, we are Paradysity Architects. We design and build Paradise, right here and now.

So, get your briefs clear and drop it here now. Whatever you want in your dream home, we'll give you the architectural design. Promo lasts till weekend.

MT:
I lost interest and respect for most of the Nigeria pastors, especially David Oyedepo. Check all his antics in the past, he is so arrogant, and he behaves as if he is above the law.

One thing that constantly surprises me is that, once a father becomes the head of the church in Nigeria, God must call his children and wife by default. Go and check where all their children are pastoring, if not a very well established church in a posh zone in Nigeria, it will be in the western world like the US, UK.

Oyedepo should put his son Muyiwa Oyedepo, who he has positioned to take over his church after his demise, in any of these church branches where these pastors were sacked and let us see the magic he will use to pull crowd. So much for God of men parading as men of God.

Was Pastor Adeboye's son that died posted overseas? Stop hasty generalisations.

Toks2008:
Anyways i will wait for a response from the Bishop himself before i will draw any conclusion.

Nice and objective thing to do but I can bet you won't get any response because the bishop only reads the Bible. He isn't aware of such fake news as always, let alone respond to it.

cybriz82:
Rest in peace ma...I need to know was a nice program..most of d actors in janifa diary was also in I need to knw program..

You're correct.

Mrs. Biola Olatunde, the writer of the popular "I need to know" TV series, which shot Funke Akindele into limelight in the late 90's and early 2000's, has gone to be with the Lord. She died yesterday after a brief illness.

I Need to Know was a Nigerian family-oriented television series aired on the NTA network. It starred Funke Akindele as Bisi, Uche Ejiogu as Ngozi, Taiwo Lesh as Hauwa and Amaka Egwuatu as Essien and was sponsored by the United Nations Population Fund.

As part of its support to the Federal Government’s effort to provide information, education and communication on adolescent health issues in the fourth Country Programme of Assistance (1997–2002), the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) country office in Nigeria supported the production of a television series on adolescent reproductive health, titled I Need to Know. Source: Wikipedia.

Mrs. Biola Olatunde will forever be remembered for her remarkable contributions to the arts, literary and entertainment sectors of Nigeria and especially in Akure, Ondo State, where she lived until her death and had served as Chairman of a board to oversee the smooth transition of power in the Actors Guild of Nigeria, AGN Ondo State chapter, a couple of months ago, having been inaugurated by the South West Vice Chairman of the body, Chief Femi Branch.

May her soul rest in the bosom of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yesterday, one of Iyke Dee Gee's unique songs, Deff Leopard's "Long, long way to go" snuck into my head. Today, I remember again and begin searching for the song online. I find the video and memories gush back like a fast flowing river. I type Iyke Dee Gee in Google and I find this thread from 2013, eight years later, of lovers of radio like me, from way back, when radio was radio. Unilag architecture department reverberated with their voices. Voices that not only inspired but were actually radio worthy, not today's folks that can't read common script announcements without blunders.

Payed for a script ad on a radio show in Akure today and the OAP totally messed so many pronounciations up, even after taking it twice.

I miss those good, old folks in Iyke Dee Gee, Dan Foster, Kemi Adesoye, Ebele, Michelle(Ashionye) of CoolFM's Midday Oasis Paula Kanu, Sola Thompson and all others mentioned here. Clear cut accents you can't resist and radio dexterity you would almost think they were singing along with the songs they played.

PS: If you know where Iyke is, please reply. I need to let him know he is one of my radio mentors.

geewean:


If only Nigerian government have have one third of their wisdom I swear to God Nigeria will be better than Dubai.



I have attended winners chapel service . I haven't heard when they raise offering to fuel pastors private jet. The man has well over 5,000 pastors who receive salaries on the 27rh every month nothing like owing of salary. Their kids go to school free and the pastor's wife all get a bag of rice from their mama. Go to canaanland since it's inception they have had power outage. Members aren't under pressure to see that papas private jet is in good condition since 1998 he got it. Go check their weekly overhead if God is not with you u go faint. Yet over 40 years of existence the church isn't owing anyone dead or alive.I have attended services there without giving tithes and offerings but God is really blessing him and the man use wisdom.



Pastor Oyakhilome has the inner-city outreach where thousands of homeless children and orphans have received real education.


Pastor paul Eneche is busy commissioning new roads in Abuja up and down.

TB joshua I don't even need to say anything except you are blind. Go listen to how he gave electricity to the northern senatorial district of his state . The governor said it that what government couldn't do TB Joshua did.


Is it Pastor Ibiyeome in PH.Go see the skyscraper building for the aged people and the other school for purely the under privileged. He later a curse on anyone who will bring a well to do child there.



Ordinary minimum wage your government cannot pay. Electricity is rocket science. Security they need to go to havard for special course. Inflation this time has assumed it's highest height. But they can collect offering from VAT, banking USSD, income tax, PAYE, bank transaction more that certain amounts, and loan experts.


I assume you are still a kindergarten in public policy that why or else I would have said you are suffering from mental diarrhea.

May God bless you for this detailed write up. If not for the church, her prayers, works and actions backed by the power of The Holy Spirit, in the Name of Jesus, this nation and I dare say Africa would have been lost. I have said it before and I'll say it again; the most poorly run local branch church of any denomination is better administratively than Nigeria's best government agency or parastatal.

Health wise, isn't it obvious that it's the spiritual restraint of the massive presence of the church that stayed the power of their evil covid from having their predicted outcome in Nigeria? Christ Embassy never put in place any of the protocol, none fell sick there.

Una never see something, the church will continue to spread and march on, una can never do anything about it. There are plenty brick walls, hit your heads on it or take a swim in the ocean.