@Kemoolala:

by kemoolala(f): 2:59pm On Oct 05

JESUS CHRIST is the true son of God and not a MESSENGER for your information, Through Him alone the salvation of your soul is sure. HE is someone you can not Ignore, u either be for Him or against Him, it will be better for u to be for Him cos He is only the Truth and the only way to salvation of ur soul. JESUS CHRIST IS THE LORD!

so who is the true wife of God, if Jesus is the true son of God, his mother Mary? you will not make any sense in your answer unless you finally agree that God neither has a son nor a wife, but created all and from them He chose Messengers with a common theme of a mission.

I HAVE A FATHER THAT WILL NEVER EVER FAIL ME AND THE FATHER IS JESUS CHRIST, the only true son of GOD thru Him alone we are save. HE is also ready to accept you too as His son only if u are ready for Him cos He will never force u and it will be of good benefit for u if can allow Him to adopt u too. Just av a taste of Him and stop classifying urself as slave, u too can be His son.

so God is now your grandfather? but your father in nigeria has a father. it seems as if anyone that is in the creation process is your father, as long as such a one is not a woman. Do you have a Creator Who will not be your father, but created every fathers you have? That Creator is my Creator and I depend on Him while my father's faith and those of all is in His Authority.

Creator Who is God punishes evildoers among the creations, if He Wishes and may forgive any He Wills. If you and I will die, and since we will whats the difference between your daughter-ship and my slave-ship because if we are evil doers, God will not let down in punishing either of us, in spite of you claiming that you are daughter, if He Wills and you will not have any advantage over me.

try again, abdulsleek. the first trial at denial is an epic fail.

intolerable statement against Almighty God may not be on this thread.

but on nl, yes. in your life, the mere claim that God does not exist amount to the most intolerable and you should be banned out of england.

^^abdulsleek is complaining. are you ever satisfied at anything, anything at all?

you make intolerable statement about God, i simply respond to you.
i wrote what your state is with satan, you are complaining.
it seems as if you believe that satan exist and you are concerned of being cozy with him?

^^^^^^^^ You never took loan because you find it to be unbiblical.
yet you advise people to borrow and lend.

its a similar job to a man who will not hire a prostitu.te but runs a brothel getting paid on situations between prostitu.tes and johns.

@Reyginus: ^ Cult you said Reyginus? There is Only One God and His Name is Allah.


Name your God and let the other Gods you set up competing with Him be ashamed, you cultist reyginus.
you who practice a religion which no prophet of God practiced with your half truth storybook of many once upon a time.

@Omo Alata:

Quran 19 Verse 83; Do you not see that We have sent the devils upon the disbelievers, inciting them to [evil] with [constant] incitement?

Allah has allowed primarily the disbelievers [and even the hypocrites] to the whims of the devils; satan and his legions. The effect could be as obvious as disbelieving in God [His Existence, making Him a tribal God or multiple head God, or even having representatives, like idols, etc] and as confusing as in being possessed by jinn.


In all my years on this earth, in spite of my mistakes daily, I put all my hopes in God, betting 100% on Him. Neither have I seen any jinn telling me he is Jesus nor have i hallucinated that there is something inside me except my internal organs and I have not asked anyone for nothing of the unknown.

sisi, did you remember the girl adegboye slapped saying she was a witch for Jesus? did she shake at the mentioned of any name?

@Bindex, etc and Pastor AIO:

Quran 19 Verse 83; Do you not see that We have sent the devils upon the disbelievers, inciting them to [evil] with [constant] incitement?

Allah has allowed primarily the disbelievers [and even the hypocrites] to the whims of the devils; satan and his legions. The effect could be as obvious as disbelieving in God [His Existence, making Him a tribal God or multiple head God, or even having representatives, like idols, etc] and as confusing as in being possessed by jinn.


A person regains protection of God from the devils when he/she relies on God, alone and seeking protection, mercy and forgiveness from Him and never losing hope that He is Able to do all things. In all my years on this earth, in spite of my mistakes daily, I put all my hopes in God, betting 100% on Him. Neither have I seen any jinn telling me he is Jesus nor have i hallucinated that there is something inside me except my internal organs and I have not asked anyone for nothing of the unknown.

^^ You are wrong in calling yourself child of God because your father is your mother's husband. You are also wrong in calling me a messenger because I am not. Jesus was a messenger. So was Moses. So was Abraham. So was Ishmael. Was was Noah. So was Muhammad [sa].

maa ton rae.

@Kemoolala:

by kemoolala(f): 12:23pm
I know where i originated from

where did you originate from except yoruba land from yoruba father and or mother? i am assuming kemoolala is a 'yoruba' language derived moniker.

and that is why i am a child of God

if He were a yoruba, which He is not but The Creator of all.

and u av said it that u are a messenger,

i am not a messenger, but Jesus son of Mary [as] was a messenger.

a messanger can either be a bastard or an elien,

read the above and see who you are characterizing.

but u also av a choice too if u want to become HIS son,

just because you are lying to yourself does not mean that i must fall into the same lie about myself. my father was known, my Creator is known, too.

cos the bible made us to understand that for as many that can confess HIM to be Lord is given the right to become HIS son,

who gave you the right, considering that you confess that Jesus the messenger, son of Mary is your Lord, then how are you the daughter of Yahweh Who created all, sent Jesus to deliver a message of hope to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, wherein you are not even from children of israel? you are deceiving yourself, sister.

so u too can become HIS son today and seize to be a messenger fron henceforth. CONGRATULATIONS IN ADVANCE!

your case is like the case of a slave who is telling everyone that she is the daughter of the master, even though she sleeps in the slave quarters. who is she fool.ing except herself. I dont need a father because i know who was the husband of my mommy. My God is different from him.

@Paris_love:

by Paris_Love: 9:46pm

Lol, it would be a surprise if Allah didn't praise Muhammad. Given how interested he was in his sex life.

Muhammad [sa] was stated as "best in character" that we should emulate. I am sure you were not a virgin at 25. "Paris, Love", uhnnn. The lol is now a laugh on you.

How exactly do you emulate Muhammad?

You are not a nigerian male, i think. You are not even a male living in Paris. You know how easy is it to commit fornication and how hard is it to avoid it? I have avoided easy pickings by following the instruction of Muhammad [sa].

Do you lust after women? Muhammad lusted after Zainab. Zaid learnt of it and wanted to divorce Zainab but Muhammad told him to hold on to wife. Allah as usual intervened, reprimanded Muhammad for not following his his heart desires. He put these words in the mouth of his imaginary god when he lusted after the wife of his adopted son. He made Allah say he is not the father of his adopted son so it is okay for him to marry his daughter in law. After that he proceeded to ban adoption. But why was this prohibition of adoption necessary?

reality check: i do not jump at every skirt, even when it is obvious she is game. Zaynab [ra] was a cousin of Muhammad [sa] and even when she was a virgin and cousin to cousin marriage is allowable in preIslamic makka, Muhammad [sa] did not lust for her. Instead, he made her marry Zayd [ra] and paid the dowry required. i doubt if you understand marriage and attraction of real male to virgin.s. i will marry a beautiful virgin over a non virgin. The man who was able to marry a virgin to his adopted son will not be "lusting" after the same woman after she has lost her virginity and will definitely not cook up a story to get her and turn around to tell the husband to keep his wife on the other hand. such is not a pattern of the man who was known as the most noble among his people, indeed among mankind.

what he [sa] did God commanded it and Personally vouched to the truth of his messenger-ship. A messenger is to live out a pattern of live which is an example for man to follow. so when he says to Zayd "keep your wife", it is an example that i have followed in the past 10 years. i do not want any man's wife, even if he says "i will divorce so that you can marry her". banning of adoption is a good thing because in reality it is an untrue relationship. who was it to be banned upon except Muhammad [sa] the living example? Muhammad [sa] was consistent because when he wanted to demonstrate banning of interest consumption, he did it on his uncle Abbas [ra] was practicing it. You start good deed on yourself and then your family and then those who are not as close in relationship until the whole community of man adopts the goodness.

I don't know how in the world Allah or any God could dislike such noble deeds.

whats noble about changing the name of a child to your name, when you can easily help them while they retain their father's name still? the same adopted son can marry your daughter instead of marrying his blood sister who he did not grow up with and does not share same last name with while you heap your name as his "fake" last name on him. or if he marries your daughter is it incest while marrying his blood sister who you are not related to is not incest?

After seeing that any time Muhammad wanted something, a verse came from Allah granting Muhammad’s wish Aisha remarked, “I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires.”[Bukhari, 6: 60:311]

This may just be the evidence to show that Muhammad [sa] is the Messenger because all his request were granted, while others may just pray and the prayer was rejected.

Looks like Muhammad’s “lord” was between his legs or at least very much concerned about that body part.

Could you explain Surah Abasa to me then. or the start of Surah Azhab or even the verse in Azhab where Allah says "there will not be any more spouse for you, even if she is pleasing to you [even if what you have now die]?

Are you a wife beater? It's not secret that your Quran sanctions verbal abuse, psychological abuse and physical abuse. Even muhammad used to beat his child wife aisha.

while i am not a wife beater because Muhammad [sa] didnt beat his wives [ra]. I could have beat somebody before while i read it all over the world and in nigeria that some men will slap, kick and punch their wives, so much battering she may die or get damaged including losing some teeth. Your accusation against Muhammad [sa] from the mouth of Aisha [ra] is yours alone like you accusation of God having a son from the lips of Jesus [as]. All you will answer to if you die in the spiritual state that you are in now.


Are you a pedóphile? Muhammad married a 6yr old girl and had sëx with her when she was 9. don’t say it was marriage not rãpe because a 9-year-old child is not mature enough to consent and if she cannot consent it is rapë.[/quote]Aisha [ra] said she participated in her contract marriage. My wife participated in her contract marriage. I guess if a woman is capable of getting satisfied in a prenuptial contract, she may immature. That what you are saying, yet Mary got pregnant by holy ghost that his power overshadowed her. i see nothing illegal as ghost normally get humans pregnant. I have not seen a man who is a pedophile with his wife whom he married publically. yet no one accused him then.

Are you a sexist? Muhammad said women are deficient in intelligence. He also said majority of women will go to hell.

while my wife is emotional, i sometimes respond to her so that she may put the emotion aside to see the issue from the practical viewpoint. and she is more intelligent than me.

Are you polygamous? This is one place you can't even imitate your prophet. Muhammad's marriage was not even sharia. He married more than 13 wives. Can you imitate him on that?

Allah says in Surah Azhab "this is for you and we know what we gave the muslims, before [you see that in a sequence of verses in the beginning of surah Nisaa]". Yes. I am a polygamist. Alhamdulillah. I am sure somebody you know is.

Are you a slave trader Muhammad used to sell captured women into slavery in order to buy weapons.

Could you show me this in the Quran or the Hadith which explains the verse of the Quran that says it is okay?

Some prophet he is eh?

Yes. He is the best. Glory to God WHo sent him and preserved the Message in authentic Quranic Arabic.

And Allah praised such acts. How do i know you're not among those trafficking coptic christians girls in Egypt so you can buy weapons with them?
Do you have extra marital affair? Muhammad had sëx with one of his slave girls mariyah.

Maryam [ra] is our mother who you call a slave, just like you called the wife of Abraham [as] a slave. Do I have extra marital affairs? No and it is so because I am copying Muhammad [sa]. Maybe you need to go to Nigeria to learn about "aristo" culture. Most people doing it are non muslim males and females.

It generated a lot of controversy. Muhammad vowed never touch his wives for 1 month. Guess who came to rescue and rebuked his wives and told them he would replace them with virgins? Your guess is as good as mine.

the bold is not the characteristics of a pedophile, a rapist, etc. Allah Himself has proven your accusation false.

Do you do all of the above? If you don't come and take a handshake you're better than the man you imitate. Why imitate someone you're better than in the first place? huh

I have seen all kinds of good people. I have not seen anyone as impressive as Muhammad [sa] and by imitating him, this yoruba man is not after anyone. I do not sample it.

ofcourse imitating Jesus is next to impossible.

Uhm. I remember the priests dont get married. Muslims pray all night in prostration of their faces to God. some sick minds get themselves nailed to the cross every ester.

The most righteous man that walked the face of earth.

John the son of Zachariah never committed any sin and prophet Jesus son of Mary called him the greatest prophet born of woman.

and who told you to take non muslims as friends? Your Quran forbids you befriending even your family members if they're not muslims. But how will survive if don't do that?

the bold already proven you wrong in your 'not making friends with non muslims'. you have never looked at any tafsir of any verse and any truth is foreign to you; that includes Truth about God and His Prophets [as]. The verse in question is from Surah Maida to mean do not take non muslim of same character quality as a friend in same way or greater friend as you will take muslim. reason, even if he is good, he is deficient spiritually. this is similar to the biblical verse that tells you not to be unyoke with disbeliever like me, me that who is an infidel in your bibles.

It even forbids you marrying non muslims but then contradicted itself by allowing men to marry non muslim women. Read a thread were you said married a christian woman. But you can't bear the thought of muslim woman marrying non muslim. See your hypocrisy?

the bold tells me that you dont know what you are talking about when it comes to muslim marrying spouses. Allah says 'do not give your daughters in marriage to disbelievers". And "lawful for you [oh males] in marriage are muslim women, then chased women from the people of the books". Oh muslim men and women, you can not marry from outside this group, say hindus, atheists, budhhists, etc. The Quran is clear, just like the Bible is clear about marriages and hypocrisy is when you hide whats in your heart and reveal the opposite of it. My wife is now a muslim, even before i marry her.

there re verses in the quran that promotes lying.

quote a single verse to shame Islam. just one verse. i know you cant is the reason i put it at just 1 verse.

Even Muhammad said "war is deceit".

how is war a deceit when it is a reality? are you alright?

Remember Allah also lied and deceived the Jews into thinking they crucified Isa.

I know it is your dream that your God should die. There is no reason for God to lie or deceive anyone because they or he do[es] not have ability to truly question Allah. Allah plans to make their plan and effort to kill Jesus futile. does that make sense to you or does your God had to allow His son to die in the hands of the jews so that you gentile can be saved, while you can tell me what will happen to the jews that killed him?

the jews as always. Why so much hate for people not more than 8million?

Pharaoh was just one man and the jews havent forgotten him. so you want me to cover the lies of 8 million people who at least beheaded John the son of Zachariah [as to father and son]. and you have never let down on the 1.5 billion muslims. why so so much hate from you an yours? you never stop killing us with gun with bible verses inscriptions. ny the way, i now you a gentile is not a friend to a single jew. i have many as friends, an evidence that Allah did not forbid us to make friends with non muslims while Muhammad [sa] my shining "example" made friend with a young jew so much so that the father of the jew told the young man to listen and accept what Abu Kasim [sa] instructs him, as the boy was lying on his death bed, where in he accepted Islam.

Saw a thread where imam said sodomy for the sake of islam is allowed. Then again Allah promised pearl boys in heaven for what if not for sodomy!!? huh

thats your imam, follow him. fornication which is easier is not allowed even if it will bring somebody to Islam. what a hypocrite you are. gay paris fits you like a glove. InshaAllah just like i ignore "sweet or fine boys with sugar in their bloods", in Paradise with my wife or wives and houris, the boys like pearls shall serve me as waiters at restaurants, bell boys and concierge boys and doorman and mail room attendants serve wealthy people on earth. I see why you are so angry because there is no sort of romance or any enjoyment in your heaven. you can still opt for my type of paradise and it is free without anyone dying to get you there.

Crimes that have no base whatsoever on the teachings of Christ.

Show me the teaching of Christ. I know you can not show it because its not in your Bibles.

Most of these people have realized the real teachings of Christ and moved but muslims are stuck in the 7th century.

Show me the Gospel of Jesus, or according to Jesus. You will never in 1 trillion lifetime be able to show it.

Have you heard the latest escapades by your muslim brothers in mubi? They summarily executed innocents students that failed to recite the Quran.

you should go to the thread and read my entry. if only nigeria has a leader, a living president.

Since when do putting face on the floor constitute a real act of worship?

lets ask our common master Jesus son of Mary what was he doing when he had his face over and over again on the floor, at Gethsemane? If he was not worshiping God, then why was not in a church like the one you pray in today or why was he not reading the Bibles or both or even start singing and clapping hands or talking in tongues as you do, mr. paris_love?

Even idol worshipers worship the same way.

and they were smart enough to imitate Jesus, while you who claim that you follow him is hypocritical enough to not make this part of your worship?

And to say your mo is the best man that walked the face of earth...well that can only take place in you and your fellow muslims brainwashed minds.

Yes. And thats a reality even the author of "the 100", a jewish man agrees with, placing Jesus and Moses as numbers 2 and 3.


Paris_Love, how far nau? You are in for a shock.

@Nakash:

by nakash: 5:41pm On Oct 02
I ventilate here after the Muslims kicked me out of their section because I was telling them the truth about their prophet.

you should not praise yourself more than you are because neither Yahweh nor Jehovah has praised you while Allah has praised Muhammad [sa]. Yahweh nor Jehovah never praised anyone while Allah the Appreciating praises His Angels, His human Prophets [as] and even the followers of prophets. No muslim on earth will say he/she has not improved in human quality by trying to imitate Muhammad [sa]. I imitate Muhammad [sa] and by it I have walked away from many evils that I could easily commit. You, nakash can not imitate Jesus in anything. I am certain of it. Not his worship of his Creator Who sent him with the truth to the lost sheep of Israel, his life or his alleged death. Though I will love to live much longer than Muhammad [sa], his death is not something that is a curse or forbidden.

I use vulgar words directly from Islamic sources.

Tell me which islamic sources? You may be using the wrong one where you will read "you fools", "Dog", "vipers", "adulterous generations", "oh ye of little faith", etc, etc?

I want you to realise that no muslim who is faithful to his religion can ever be your friend.

I am faithful to Islam and I do have a lot of non muslims as friends. You are not correct, again.

Islam allows lies to kufr as long as it promotes jihad.

how do you lie to a disbeliever as long as it promotes "struggle"? Give me example of lying to kufr so that muslims promoted or can promote jihad.

islam is not a religion of peace but one of turning the whole world into one global islamic caliphate.

the jews killed every community they encounter leaving them as the only surviving community all the way to Canaan. the christian wish to extinguish Islam by converting every muslims by winning souls for Jesus. Hindu India was ruled for over 700 years, Spain the same by muslims. At the end the Hindu India is intact as majority hindu and Spain almost killed all muslims or converted them to christianity. Nakash, you are a bad researcher or you are freaking liar.

Forgive me for my obscene langauge here because someone has to do it, someone has to call out Islam for what it is - fake sexist religion created by a sex obsessed monster which continues to kill, maim, mutilate, behead, Molestation, sodomise, burn,bomb, enslave etc till today.

the bold can be found in the bibles. sodomy? who practices it in Islam? burn at stake was practiced in USA Winston Salem's massachusetts colony. bombing of king david hotel by the jews to get rid of the british and then begin the massacre of the arab palestinians. slavery etc were the hallmark of christian europe and apartheid just ended less than 25 years ago. All of these criminals were non muslims. that is not say that Muslims havent copied these evil doers from your rank. sodomy is hard for me to accept unless you can prove it.

the religion of Adam can not be fake because Noah, Abraham, even Jesus practiced it. They bow their faces to the Creator. Have you in your life put your face to the floor for God? if you have not and you dont do it as Jesus did, you are in a fake religion. I will leave your misguidance of qualifying the best [sa] that ever walked this earth to your conscience.

@kemoolala: i know Mary is the mother of Jesus. But who is the wife of God for God to be a father?

Every father has legal wife otherwise children attach to him will be a lie or a basta.rd. This is the reality.

God the Creator creates. If He were to set example, it will be the best. God can not have a bastard unless He has a legal wife or somebody or group is lying on Him.

@Jasi7:

by Jasi7: 12:15am

Sweetnecta: @Omo Alata: This is ironic. The irony of it all is that the Christian Bibles say that God of the Christians in Trinity was killed by hanging. Omo Alata, was that "arm" too weak or cant save Himself? Jesus prepared for war in the same way they say Nidal of US army prepared for his last war; he sold all his belongings [Jesus told his disciples to sell all their belongings [your cloaks are the last of your belongings to dispose off, unless you wanna go about nu.de in a religious community. Thats a no no unless you wanna die].


@plappville: unless you admit that corinthians writer is the another comforter tell the disciples what they knew not during the time of Jesus, the above verse does not count. it is absolutely irrelevant.


they did not survive for all men to see them. you as a woman did not see a single one of them. Heck. Jesus said "you vipers". You need more to know that some men were not loved but hated by Jesus "Fools" Jesus was reported to have said, thought he had earlier condemned people who say "fools" to hell.


and the God that didn't have anyone to fight for Him was hung on a tree [Paul said he was a cursed soul]. Allah says dialogue with with them in wisdom and in a way that is noble/decent. If I show you that from the Quran, will you accept Islam, while i show you from the Bible that The God that does not hate evildoers by their deeds does not exist and the one who does not have strong fighters to follow him will get crushed by hanging?

who is dis ....r u so silly nd dumb dat u cnt do a simple analysis of both sides...y r u defendin d muslims now huh,ure just too daft to b a prsn

my user name is up there. i am neither silly nor dumb. i have done good and fair analysis of both sides for many many decades that i am satisfied that my choice of Islam is the right one. i am a muslim and i do speak of Islam, defending it in absolute truth. my defense of Islam comes from my soul and my heart accepts it.

oh Jasi7. Why are you angry or pretending to be?

^The above response to the 2 verses quoted is the most unfair. can you bring a verse from any book of religion that has equivalent spiritual cautioning, just as weighty in meaning in application to guide and affecting the hearts?

@Shikaan:

by shikaan(m): 1:26pm

tunshe:

You need to learn about Islam,open your mind and sieve the information you receive.You need a mind of your own my brother.

Tony Blair's sister in law converts to Islam,yes!I'm so happy and needed to share her story with you.Who knows,God might open your eyes to see the light of Islam. wink

lol learn about islam? Hehehehe bros we know plenty things about islam, we sabi plenty things ma guy. And bros that religion is a total mistake to the human race. If the religion is so true as you claim, go and prove ali sina wrong. 50,000 dollars dey wait you.

tell ali sina in canada to put the 50,000 [canadian or us dollars] in an escrow controlled by an independent party. we have written to him that we will match it. then the winner takes all. while i am no supporter of illegal tactics or violence of muslims on anyone, the truth about islam is different from the reality of almost all muslims because each has his/her own failing.

Ali Sina has refused and I doubt if there is any 50,000 "dollars" in his possession. the guy is an iranian whose father left iran because of the 1979 revolution when shah got deposed. his anger on islam is truly as a result of his parents losing influence and wealth as islam under khommeini. ali sina like most people parrot what their elders say about something they were not alive to witness or too young to understand when it happened.
ali sina if he was sincere would have challenged imam shabir ally who also live in canada or other canadian muslims known for speaking up for Islam.

^hypocrite. You know it is not from your heart.
Heck. What are you doing here after you created "Christian Single"?

For sure you will find easy Susan and ever ready Rachael and best buy Brenda to attend to you now.

@blink182:

by blink182(m): 10:21pm

maclatunji:

The implication of the bolded is that God actually has other "children". I would love to have their names because you are beginning to tantalize my taste buds!

I mean the very first creation of God Ǎ̜̣̍Ϟd every other thing created was created through Jesus.

as to the bold, could you explain how the Creator will create everything else through the first thing He created? shouldn't creation be easier at least not more difficult to the Creator if the first thing was not difficult more than a mere command "Be"?

i hope you are not saying that He labored very much to create the first thing created and took the easy route, a new way to create other things by going through the first thing created?


@nogoma:

by nagoma(m): 10:57pm

tobechi74:

each tym i hear MUSLIM and christian GOD, i am confusd. We both worshp d same one God in difrent ways 2ru difrent mediums


Christians have 3 Gods and Muslims have only one. I thi k the Muslims are envious of that- may explain some of the problems.

nagoma says its the number that the muslims are envious about. 3 is better than 1 is what you are saying. in the case of God, it is the reverse in number and 1 God covers all. At least that what we know about Allah. other "God"s may be different; multiple, physical representation, tribal and even co-equal. This is why Islam is a radical monotheistic: God is Complete and He is One without partner.

@blink182:

by blink182(m): 10:21pm

maclatunji:

The implication of the bolded is that God actually has other "children". I would love to have their names because you are beginning to tantalize my taste buds!

I mean the very first creation of God Ǎ̜̣̍Ϟd every other thing created was created through Jesus.

as to the bold, could you explain how the Creator will create everything else through the first thing He created? shouldn't creation be easier at least not more difficult to the Creator if the first thing was not difficult more than a mere command "Be"?


@nogoma:

by nagoma(m): 10:57pm

tobechi74:

each tym i hear MUSLIM and christian GOD, i am confusd. We both worshp d same one God in difrent ways 2ru difrent mediums


Christians have 3 Gods and Muslims have only one. I thi k the Muslims are envious of that- may explain some of the problems.

nagoma says its the number that the muslims are envious about. 3 is better than 1 is what you are saying. in the case of God, it is the reverse in number and 1 God covers all. At least that what we know about Allah. other "God"s may be different; multiple, physical representation, tribal and even co-equal. This is why Islam is a radical monotheistic: God is Complete and He is One without partner.

the killer[s], if they were muslims are just that by their tongues and islam has not entered their hearts.
if anyone ask anyone to identify him/herself by religion so that he is not killed, such a killer is a hypocrite of the religion he practices.

Muhammad [sa] did not fight anyone who is not a muslim except he mounted a defense against the oppressors.
let to me, these evil people should be fought against until there is no more persecution.

these animals are worse than cattle as they soul the religion that my soul and heart are glad about.

if the nigerian government can fight to defend nigerians, the muslims should raise an army to fight the evil doers pretending to be muslims.

when the lives are cut short, how would the dead become muslims in the future?

@Tolaaaannni:

by Tolaaaaannni(f): 3:13pm On Sep 30
Type 1- The Know it all's.
I know the bible even better than jesus.

Type 2- The Hypocrites.
You need to change your ways *Goes back to another thread and talks about girls they have "been with".

Type 3- "The I don't give a #%*&'$"/ Openminded
Yes, I believe in God, but I also believe allah and God are the same. I believe that even the common man can enter heaven if they do good in life and stay away from wickedness. (Me)

you mean to say of the bold "I believe in god, but I also believe allah" or "I believe in yahweh, but I also believe allah" or I believe in God of the Christian Whose Name I dont know and I believe Allah the God of the muslim" or some other form of the phrase since you must know that the british muslim says God, too to mean Allah, while the christian say Jehovah and the jew says Yahweh? You have to be consistent. You wanna write i english, do so. You want to write in other languages, do so.

@Oyap:

by Oyaps: 12:21pm
Religion is a faith that someone believes no matter,how foolishly is appears to other. Left for me,religion should never be a matter of public or even state discussion.

if religion is never to be discussed how would you have been non muslim or should what ends up pn earth be the one discussed while what benefits before God after life here be kept under wrap? religion at the end of it is guidance and you need to steer people to the right guidance.

Now to the reason why someone in Denmark will draw a cartoon and some people will be killed in Kano?someone in california will produce a movie not sanctioned by American government and American embassies will be invaded leading to casualties? Why,would Imam Shekau always vow to kill christians in Nigeria in the name of Islam? Why is it always fights between muslims and hindus in India,muslims and Jews in Palestine,christians and muslims in Nigeria?and why is it Muslims versus Budhists in Burma?

while i disagree with the tactics of muslim rioters and also do not support violence against anyone who is not up in arms against the muslims, and definitely against boko haraam, and its like within the muslim communities. however, palestinians are having it worse than the south africans in the days of apartheid. if mandela and others including steve biko could rise up then you must expect the oppressed palestinians to rise up against the oppressions of the zionists even if it is the stone throwing in response to heavy military boots on the ground with the great fire power in latest weaponry.

why is it a crime punishable by death for muslims to convert to other faiths in Iran and some muslim countries while western countries accomodate people of other faiths?

show me a western country that 'accommodate' islam without a cost to the freedom of the muslims? even white muslims hear an ear full from the authorities as they are re-entering their home country after hajj. i am sure that if iran practices what you proposed, there would be a single non muslims in there. however there are jews and christians in that very country. common sense should tell us that if you get ride of the non muslims, there would not be a way for the weakest of muslim to even think of converting.

Why would muslim leaders not condemn violent actions in the name of islam? To me i believe its indoctrination and aggressive tendencies of some muslims. All will need to have his tolerance towards each others which also include overlooking one another shortcomings. Please lets learn how to live in peace with all men

tolerance towards each other is not a one way street but a road of many directions meeting only at the point of commonality; tolerance. when you make fun and lie upon the one i love more than my parents and i, you will not be assuming that i will join you in your evil deed where you think that i will treat the ill will as i will treat best wishes. what right do you have to encroach upon my right to be happy about my prophet [sa], considering that you have lied against him? your freedom of speech right should not circumvent my freedom of happiness by your lies.


@wizard01:

by wizard01(m): 12:23pm
Man can't fight his battle let alone fight for God, very funny cos God is ment to protect.

God protected faith under Moses when Moses killed the disbelievers, including jews who made God in golden calf.


@Mintayo:

by Mintayo(m): 12:23pm

tobechi74:

each tym i hear MUSLIM and christian GOD, i am confusd. We both worshp d same one God in difrent ways 2ru difrent mediums

we do not worship th same God at all,don't ever make that mistake...we don't!
If we worship the same God,they will believe and accept Jesus Christ as the son of God and the only way to God!

is your mother your father's wife? if this is so, whats the mother of Jesus to God? If Jesus is the only way, what was Moses to the jews who lived and died before Jesus? What way to God did the africans who lived and died before Jesus have? What was the way to God that John the son of Zachariah and his father have? You need to rethink your position.

Abdulsleek:

by AbdulSleek(m): 9:05pm

So non-muslims (atheists, hindu, christians) are now the enemy? You are giving unbelievers the chance to call islam intolerant!

The jews believe I am a goyim, a gentile as a starter. call a jew a goyim or gentile as hear an ear full. They think i am a disbeliever. The christians believe i am the enemy. they do not "be unyoke" with me. I am condemned to their lake of fire already because I am a muslim. The hindus do not fear better. They treat me just as worse thinking that i need their "GODs" and i should not eat cow. Every group thinks that people outside the group is against them [enemy is always you, not your friend].

If the position of the non-muslims is truly weak, then why are LagosShia and Maclatunji scrambling to find links on the internet to answer my questions? They can even argue their counterarguments properly.

they think that might you since you seem to be so dogged down. You are cultured in a way that do not see the "Hierarchy" of Allah over all, including your office workers. ignorance defeat intelligence in debate all the time.

I thought that I was among muslims who had the brains of scholars when I was reading some threads on Nairaland as a visitor but many are just repeaters of imams' words.

there are no scholars here. If you are looking for scholars, there are many in London. But you need to shed off the mindset that your co worker lock you in.

Anti-nature? Explain it? Are there gay animals?

while i can not speak for animals, it is contrary to how God made man for steve to wanna sleep with mike and jane, and for julie to want ann and kenny. humans should practice the ideal nature that God created the individual. a person who has the tendency should not act on it, hence he or she will not be it until he or she acts upon the tendency.

I took 2 day holiday of out my remaining holiday days! Dont be a smartazz Here in uk, workers have a stipulated amount of holday days that they can take every year. I booked mine for today and tommorow.

I went to a party this afternoon. Or are parties now haram? grin

you are still wet behind the ears. you can say what you want and i can say what i want [as long as it is reasonable]. you are easily offended and you do not think Allah may be annoyed when you say you disagree with Him?

^^^^ Jesus was only calling the lost sheep of the house of Israel. at best, he told his disciples to call the whole house of Israel and no one else.

Jesus himself had a religion, did work and had faith in God. to abandon the true religion "from God when you find it and if you dont know it yet, you should strive to find it" is truly to abandon the Guiding Light of God that man can follow.

what church? God Almighty does not have anything to do with church. Proof: Jesus did not build a single church.

to be quoting Paul's writing, etc to explain Jesus is like putting Jesus down. Jesus is enough to explain his mission.
Unfortunately, there is no Gospel from God that Jesus was sent with and preached in existence.

@Abdulsleek:

by AbdulSleek(m): 10:20am

Wow.....why did you think I said "maybe" or "i dunno"? If man chooses to be gay, it is his business and not my business. I dont support it and it is none of my business.

I have no idea on what to do about gays. I am not a gay but we should not kill them.

There is no contradiction in my stance. I dont believe that I should go and disturb a gay man. I dont know what a gay man is thinking.

Please, dont act like a smarty pants!

The bold applies to you not less than it applies to the muslims in dialogue with you here. If you say you are a muslim, you have at least acknowledge Allah, His Angels, His Revelations, His Religion, His Prophets [as] and you are happy to be from the community of the last of the prophets [sa]. What you are doing however is giving man his due to be guy, etc, even question Allah. But you are depriving Allah His Rights as your Lord and Owner of the Commands that you must obey, if it is true that you are a muslim. No man is an angel, but taking the sides of the enemies of Guidance from Allah as you seem to be doing here, following the weak position of the non muslims is unbelievable.

If I had a gay brother I would ask him about what he really feels about being gay and being a muslim. If he loves being gay, then it is his choice as an adult. I cant help him.

I am sure that some of your non muslim co workers will disagree with gay lifestyle, since their fault is disbelief and not being anti nature.

No contradiction. You have succeeded in trying to play a smart one on me and failed.

Th quran doesnt say that we should murder gays, does it?

while i am not Allah and not a leader of any community but my household, alone, Allah did not spare anyone in the community of Prophet Lut [as] for being homosexuals.

by AbdulSleek(m): 10:33am

olawalebabs: all the best in your reasoning adventure.


Thank you!
by AbdulSleek(m): 10:42am
To all,

If you cant handle me (a very liberal muslim), how are you going to handle a kaffir who is out the verbally destroy islam in a debate? Seriously, I am not happy.

maybe they are debating a person who is not firm in faith. Many non muslims have found themselves having Imam Shabir Ally running a ring around them. Allah open the breas.ts of believers to respond in the best manner that will adequately silent the disbelievers.

To be honest, I am not even that confident in my points but you guys seem to be less confindent than me. Notice that I was not even sure of myself when I opened my first thread but now, I am arguing with you guys with confidence. It is not that I am smart or smarter than prophet Mohammed, the problem is that some of the arguments that I have seen on this threads have too many holes that even I can rebutt.


Unfortuantely, I dont know what the topic for this fridays debate will be because, it useually agreed on on Wensdays. I a off work for 2 days (today and tommorow) to enjoy my country's independence.

I will inform yo guys on the debate!

you live in england. you dont work for the government of nigeria. yet you are taking 2 days off from work? i hope its fro nairaland. if independence of your country is an excuse given to me by my employee he or she is gone.

@Abdulsleek:

by AbdulSleek(m): 2:43pm On Sep 30
Well, I have to disagree with Allah then.

Yet His Mercy of your continued existence is still intact. Imagine if man is in the position and you are disagreeing with him? The consequence of your disagreement will be a never end death and worst grade of tortures.

What if I told you that my mom is dating a white man who is a non-muslim?

There is no out of wedlock se.x in Islam. if that is not part of the deal, i guess the "dating" here is chalked in the column of knowing your neighbor among mankind. He may just become a muslim before it gets to other level of relationship.

Should I caution my mom?

Age should not prevent you from speaking up about what is right. The elders are not always correct in all things. The correctness is Allah's, alone. Anything different from His statement is incorrect though it may seem good to you because of the coat that satan has put on it.

Someone who raised me on her own.

And Allah raise both of you on His Own.

My mom is 43 and she has her own house and has raised her child (me).

Allah provided her the house, you and even spare her life in good health that she is enjoying.

Who am I or anyone to tell her who she can marry?

You love is not always blind and Allah's Sight sees more than "love" and covers all things all the time. Allah says in surah Azhab that He is not shy to speak the truth. He has spoken the truth.

My father, a muslim man with 3 wives was maltreating my mother.

I come from similar home except that my father [ra] never maltreated my mother who he was old enough to have as a daughter.

The white man my mom is dating and soon to be engaged with has nothing but an angel to my mom and I.

we have muslim wives who found "angels" in their muslim husbands. we also have non muslim wives who found their muslim husband as "angels". Just to caution you and i first: man can never be angel.

So when I talk about non-muslim marriage dont think that I woke up one day to insult Allah

my mother was a christian, until Allah soften her heart to accept Islam at her old age. my wife now was a christian and Allah soften her heart to accept Islam. she lives in London and so you are not unique in your story. When you factor Allah out of your affairs, satan will make evil look as avenue of success. I guess thats what we are saying. and we all see around us non muslim marriages collapsing even more frequently than between muslim spouses. I dont have to educate you since your mom's non muslim friend must have been married before, or a very late boomer.

@Bukatyne; You tackle just part of the questions.

You didnt tell Lagosshia who is the spouse of the "literally" spiritual father.

If you wanna answer, you have to answer every bit of the questions asked. You cant be selective.
if you are bold enough to take the bait, you might as well bite.

@Bukatyne; You tackle just part of the questions.

You didnt tell Lagosshia who is the spouse of the "literally" spiritual father.

@italo:

by italo: 7:39am
Jesus (The Truth) is alive and God forever.

That liar is dead.

i wanted to respond to the "near extinction" of reyginus and then i saw your entry.
let me share a reality of how an earlier muslim man shut up a christian missionary of his day:

the christian asked the muslim if Muhammad [sa] was the last messenger [sa], why didnt Allah help and safeguard his grandson Hussaine [ra] instead of allowing him to be killed?

Fair and smart question until the muslim gave a knock out punch of an answer:

Muhammad [sa] was bold enough and probably furious with Yahweh, the muslim said.
Yahweh burst into tears and apology.

He said that even His own begotten son He couldn't protect as he was killed by hanging.


Swallow that for a moment.

We know who is the liar and we know who is not alive and we know who is weak and we know who does not care enough to stand for God.

@Abdulsleek:

by AbdulSleek(m): 2:50pm
Ha! I finally learnt how to quote properly! grin

You have been "brainwashed" to that. No? I can read your post without the "quote" youjust learned.

Sweetnecta: @Abdulsleek: Is there a need for my own "logic" when Allah has stated His Position about women and marriage.
Muslim woman must marry only muslim man.
people of the books women can marry muslim man.
other women can not marry muslim man until becoming from one of the two groups, above.


I put the part in bold so that yo can see why some people see we muslims as brainwashed. Allah gave us brains to think. We need logic, Allah shoundt be illogical.

Allah also gave us freewill in addition to what you listed There is no higher or equal source of logic and Allah is The Logical being the Owner of Logic and User of the Highest form of Logic. He formed you, then sent prophets [as] with Guidance from Him, from time to time and the last of them was Muhammad [sa] the man you say you follow in his pattern of worshiping Allah. Did Allah give you brain to think illogically so that you abandon logic and end up disagreeing with Allah? Yet expect Him to reward you with absolute goodness from Him?

Let me tell you what i have been brainwashed to do: showing, brushing my teeth, etc. Then I realize that they are good for me: my skin is clean and no dirt or stain on it and skin diseases have no place to germinate. My teeth is clean and still firm in my mouth. Heck. I have been brainwashed into practicing hygiene and I discover that it is a good thing for me.

Tha being said, I can not agree with things that do not make sense.

please don't use your "sense" to judge Allah like the atheists who retort that since Allah is Unseen He must not be existing. The limited scope of human senses do not allow man to see or know each of the things that "make sense".

Sweetnecta:

I though she is in college so that she can carry her own water? Why not tell her to marry a believer who can love her as a mate, considering her as equal in the marriage, able to be financially be responsible for her and show kindness? The benefit of marrying a muslim for a woman is that her right of worship will be respected instead of frustrating her so much so that she begins to "doubt" and may actually lead to converting out. Why allow satan a place to sit in your life and you have to struggle to get rid of him? If this is all I list, it is a way towards ending in paradise, instead of hell.


So all non-muslims are going to hell.[/b]You should see the laughter this generated in my office debate. [b]How tolerant is such a view to non-muslims? Personally, I think that people should go to heaven and hell by merit and not by belief. If a hindu does good and lives a good life, he should go to heaven. Paying zakat and marying a muslim woman should not guarantee one a road to heaven.

show me where Allah says Shaitan [the greatest disbeliever] will go to Paradise? Or show me where Pharaoh is said to be heading for "Heaven". Every belief thinks the others are misguided or in disbelief. Christians say muslims will not be in Christian Heaven. I hope you know that? I will not be in Jewish Heaven, or Hindu Heaven and I will hope in Allah that I a not in Islamic Hell. Please throw away your personal opinion if it is different from the Commandment of Allah and the way of the Prophet [sa]. And I do hope you know that each prophet [as] was a muslim? The road to heaven {Paradise from Islamic view] starts with "Belief", first which is the ingredient you think is not necessary. May Allah strengthen your faith and that of each of us in His Guidance {Belief in Islam]. Amin.

@Abdulsleek:

by AbdulSleek(m): 7:11pm On Sep 29
@ Sweetnecta


You are not logically defending your position concerning non-muslim marriage.

Is there a need for my own "logic" when Allah has stated His Position about women and marriage.
Muslim woman must marry only muslim man.
people of the books women can marry muslim man.
other women can not marry muslim man until becoming from one of the two groups, above.

As I have told LagosShia, you can not tell someone that you can marry his women but he can not marry your women.

But Allah can tell you who you can not marry and who you can. Are you going to obey Allah or not in this matter you are so passionate about?

You only end up looking like a cheating bigot.

don't be naive. there are beautiful women who are muslims and single, still. I will marry only muslim women and thats my position and I am neither a bigot nor a cheat if i find a non muslim woman and tell her to become muslim if she wants to be my wife. I dont know about you, we have nigrian, african, indeed muslim women in England who are beautiful and single still. WHats your style or are you not ready but debating the issue you are not prepared for?

Can you explain why there are non-muslim men who have long lasting marriages with devout muslim women and live a happy life?

Just because a man is wealthy in haraam business does not make it right. I will not participate in giving my women folks away to disbelievers. And I am as liberal as they come. But I have my stand; as long as it is within Islam. non muslim husband of muslim wife is against sharia and we have seen people who refuse to marry, yet they have happy homes 40 years and counting with grown up children, now left with empty nest. does it make it right to be unmarried even though you are happy "couple"? Please firm up your priority within what Allah Prescribes.

My landlord is an example.

so what? Its shameful that a woman keeps a baby in the womb, she is a believer and the baby is not because the man who mounts her is not a believer. why would she allow a disbeliever to mount her? I will not mount a disbelieving woman. If I end up in Paradise, I do not want my spouse in hell is my weakest argument about my position.

My niece can marry who she wants. It is her right. I am not the honour killing type.

while honor killing is not part of Islam, the right of Allah you at least tell that to your niece. or is she allowed to marry a hindu too even as she wears hijab and kimar? Do you at least have a limit and have shame about something or you just do what you want, even in front of everybody? the right of your niece must be under the Right of Allah, or is it above the Rights of Allah? How do you say you are a muslim, yet disregard the Commandment of Allah on marriage?

I only advice her to marry a man that can care for her financially, is respnsible and loves her.

I though she is in college so that she can carry her own water? Why not tell her to marry a believer who can love her as a mate, considering her as equal in the marriage, able to be financially be responsible for her and show kindness? The benefit of marrying a muslim for a woman is that her right of worship will be respected instead of frustrating her so much so that she begins to "doubt" and may actually lead to converting out. Why allow satan a place to sit in your life and you have to struggle to get rid of him? If this is all I list, it is a way towards ending in paradise, instead of hell.

why would any nigerian be 'returned' or deported within nigeria? whose land is it but nigerians land and these 'poor' people are part of the nigerians? fashola, a muslim has no right to ignore sharia in the way of caring for the poor. do they have to have yoruba names before he realizes that not only that they belong but it is his duty as leader of the people to show mercy and compassion.

i blame more the federal government which only collects and fleeces and does no investment and foster togetherness of the citizenry. its shameful all around, both at national and state levels. no wonder we see the divisions among the people.

@Omo Alata:

by Omo Alata(f): 7:37am On Sep 27
Listen! The LORD's arm is not too weak. He can save Himself grin

This is ironic. The irony of it all is that the Christian Bibles say that God of the Christians in Trinity was killed by hanging. Omo Alata, was that "arm" too weak or cant save Himself? Jesus prepared for war in the same way they say Nidal of US army prepared for his last war; he sold all his belongings [Jesus told his disciples to sell all their belongings [your cloaks are the last of your belongings to dispose off, unless you wanna go about nu.de in a religious community. Thats a no no unless you wanna die].


@plappville:

by plappville(f): 10:06am On Sep 27
1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

unless you admit that corinthians writer is the another comforter tell the disciples what they knew not during the time of Jesus, the above verse does not count. it is absolutely irrelevant.

If God weakness is stronger than Men then why should man fight for God? Christians are not disputers, they are to:

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." ( John 13:34-35)

they did not survive for all men to see them. you as a woman did not see a single one of them. Heck. Jesus said "you vipers". You need more to know that some men were not loved but hated by Jesus "Fools" Jesus was reported to have said, thought he had earlier condemned people who say "fools" to hell.

The Muslims believe fighting/disputing is the best and only way they can defend thier faith, they are taught to do so.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things." This is a proof of none existance of thier god, He cannot fight for ITself.

and the God that didn't have anyone to fight for Him was hung on a tree [Paul said he was a cursed soul]. Allah says dialogue with with them in wisdom and in a way that is noble/decent. If I show you that from the Quran, will you accept Islam, while i show you from the Bible that The God that does not hate evildoers by their deeds does not exist and the one who does not have strong fighters to follow him will get crushed by hanging?