Last but not the least in the streaming family, internet radio streaming.

For that, tried a few radio apps, but because of that ip thingy i describe above, most wont let me have access. So far, only use Nobex radio app and I'm okay with it. Although it lets me only listen to UK radio stations coz of my ip but i dont mind. Amogst many others i get the BBC word servce radio and also Talk sport a 24 hour sport radio station in the Uk with live commentaries of premiership, champs league, tennis, basketball etc etc. I just need my bluetooth head set and I'm on.

Niiade: TCD wanna ask, can one download the OS2 on a laptop and sideload it on a PB. Thanks

its possible but one would need the Playbook to be up and running coz you'll need the development mode enabled to sideload the OS using dingleberry. So this won't work on a new playbook yet to be set-up. For a brand new playbook yet to be set up, you'll need to create a "playbook update server" to trick desktop manager into loading the local copy of the OS yiu have on your system instead of connecting to RIM's servers to download which could take hours. It's really complex, the easiest is dingleberry but as you know won't work for a new pb yet to be set up.

drumme:

Yahoo messenger is not on appworld. Anyone have a way around display?

download IM+. It's a multi platform messenger. Has fb, yahoo, hotmail etc. Liik for it in those links I posted under native apps.

Strange to me. What does desktop manager do or say when u connect the playbook? What about ur computer, does it recognize something has been plugged in and tries to install the driver? Have u tried another usb port on your computer, or tried another different laptop entirely. This stuff is all about troubleshooting, you have to cast your net wide and think of everything as the problem could be from anywhere.

For your malfunctioning bold 5 (which is a terrible phone from blackberry imo ) reloading the software wouldn't hurt, it might help,don't forget to back up before.Also make sure the problem isn't a battery contact issue if ur battery isn't held tightly in place, it's going to cause these kinda probe.

Damn, got banned again. I tire o.

As at now, there is no way besides getting DM to at least recognize your playbook so you can update.If you can't do that, you have to keep trying. It took me a few tries to get it.

Why was I banned by the bot for my response to triplr? Moderators post rectify this

You hate fur but you can eat and slaughter meat for your enjoyment. Lol, what an irony.

u2 1 day:

on the cheap internet and bandwith on bb i think its just an ish in nigeria, cuz i know in uk when u get like a N97 it comes with unlimited data plan.

And heres something else, if everyone who gets on the internet or receives mails via his/her phone was to go the blackberry way, do u really think service providers would leave it to be unlimited bandwith.

Its not just about unlimited downoloads. But at what price?

3 uk offers the nexus one in a promo of unlimited downloads at 35pounds a month minimum.I think you can get that at 5 pounds for BIS. Which means its 600% more expensive than the BIS. In most countries blackberry connect rates are the cheapestm why do u think many social networking-hungry youths are running to bb's?

Also, the networks love Bb's coz they heavily compress data. A nokia phone uses as much bandwith as 3 blackberry users. So u see why the mobile networks are happy with blackberrys?

Mafia4life:

@TCD,
You have done your best jare, This is what i have being talking about on BB,
I always praise BB for its BIS ( Expecially the unlimited downloads ),
These dump heads that don't even need it just jump into it whereas they are not fit to use it, Thank God you said it is a Business phone, It was overhyped because of these youths that want to show up themself. You emphazied mainly on Business and Security, And i thank God no symbian user argued that too,
This is Nokia ( Symbian ) : A mini computer on your palm. A combination of Business machine, Entertaining device, Digital assistant and many more, that does its job very well without neglecting others. A multipurpose machine that is miniaturize to a phone. BB service is perfect but that is just a network shyt. We are talking of the device itself, You said one man's food it another man's poison, But you cant say one man's poison is another man's food (poisons are generally bad ). Meaning there must be a general superiority in both phones. You just emphasized more on security. Remember that the owner of facebook has been hacked ( I thought he is an expert), Bill gate has being hacked too ( i thought he is the don ). Even Iphone 4 has been hacked again, These are great names in technical field, What i am saying is that BB can be HACKED if hackers focus on it,
No body is arguring that BB service is bad. We are refering the DEviceeeeeeeeeee.
To end this, we were talking of devices, Pls be honest and truthful ( I respect your honestly @ the first place )
In fuctionality, Which of these type of phone have lots of function? Symbian Or Blackberry?
Which of these phones is refered to a true smartphone. Symbian Or Blackberry?
Plssss just use a symbian phone for only a day with or without network and tell us what you think. Thanks

You are right bro, you have to need the bb services to enjoy it.

What many people fail to understand is the Blackberry is primarily designed to work with the BIS/BES. I have seen it being described by RIM as an out-of-the-box functionality which can simply mean it should be used with it. RIM's blackberry is just a means to an end, the MAIN service provided by the company are the BIS n BES. So anyone buying a blackberry without the intention of connecting to be service , is just wasting his time. It's actually not right to consider the blackberry Device in itself without its BIS/BES services after all, It's around that core that the hardware and OS itself were designed.

I use a blackberry and an E72. The truth is I bought the curve solely for the Blackberry services as everyone should be doing. That however doesn't mean the blackberry doesn't do many other things. It does, It has even a better screen resolution, decent camera, plays music and videos excellently, better speakers (than my E72), better RAM and RAM management than my E72, GPS, maps, I also read my Ebooks(mobireader) there etc, all in addition to the business functions and add to that the cheap BIS.

Now, when you guys talk about you can do this and do that(functionality) on your Nokia, truth is they are all third party apps, Is that not so? A blackberry has the Hardware to do some of those things it just requires someone writing the app for the blackberry Os. There is NOTHING extra-ordinary, it just requires the developers out there to write a version for bb and zam! Its on the bb.

One thing I've noticed is most Blackberry apps are designed to work with the BIS. Even a small app like my dictionary as soon as I type a word connects to the internet to retrieve the word meaning. What does this tell you? The blackberry is basically designed to work with the BIS and it's apps will be designed to work around this core service. So without the BIS you will not have fun and some functionality, that's the intention.

A reason why there is a dearth of some of those your fun and wow apps on the blackberry platform has to do with the fact that the blackberry is primarily a business phone so probably no much interest amongst business users. A phone like nokia and the rest will have apps based on their design. They have no BIS/BES so fun apps will be produced that allow u have fun in an offline mode. Same thing for games too, java games work on blackberries even at that I don't see much business users as game freaks so RIM concentrating on ps2 emulator games on a bb will be pure madness.

You guys are trying to make the blackberry sound like total wack when in actual fact it's not true. It can do many of the things your phones do but being a unique device, it's functions will therefore be tailored around its service and business too. Let's be truthful to ourselves.

kenis:

I understand the kind of business you do. Paypal Business Encryption. U need it bros. Since you have agreed that Nokia has security but BB is better in security i would not have any need dragging that with you. I know somebody that drives an old car for security. Reason being that he don't criminal to draw attention to his car coz he is always with big cash on the go. That does not mean that his car is better. That is what he thinks serves his purpose. Since your BB helps you to 'kidnap' dollars from paypal i will advise you to stick to it.
Majority of professional and business men use Nokia more than BB and still make more money without any security issue. I'm not sure you know how to use smartphone properly except Bb. But that is the only device you've leant, i will expect you to stick to it coz other smartphones is really gonna give you a tough time especially now wey Nokia dey vex. No be Nokia you know before we dey use my bros. Nokia does more than laptops as i speak. They will be able to help you at any Nokia care near you. Goodluck as you thank me afterwards.

Lol. Paypal kidnapping, na so. Lol

Anyway, you have every right to hype your device, e dey constitution. As far as I'm concerned, ones man's meat is another man's poison. You judge the worth of something not based on the monetary value but the value it adds to you. You might look at that old car and say its totally worthless. Well, that isn't true, to that your friend that old car is worth millions or his life and won't sell to you for a billion dollars.
Value is first and foremost a thing of the mind. So it depends on the individual.

Thanks for your advice anyway.

frgy_:

@ TCD : you are the most sensible person BB fan 've met on this forum . Your arguments are largely without sentiments.
Putting your words in another way "one mans WOW is another duhh"

Lol. Thanks bros. I really appreciating you getting what I'm trying to say. Infact, you put it better, "one mans WOW is another duhh". Lmao

u2 1 day:

thank you wackyj1

@tcd what do think about the app that lets you connect to pos terminal i mentioned above, pls be honest.

What pos app is that?

Its a pity I've been banned by the spambot while replying to Kenis last post.

@kenis. In summary, Opera does not have end-end encryption in the real sense of it. Besides, encryption pass wncryption. We all know WAP and WEP encryptions for wireless lan but we know which is better don't we?

Look up blackberry encruption and tell me what u see.

WackyJ1:

Oya lets end the argument. The only two features of bb that TCD has pointed out are
1. Push Email and
2. Security
U21day has pointed out so many other things that a symbian phone can do that is amazing and in the above post by Kenis
Nokia also has their own push email service and good security so while TCD Is defending two features symbian users are defending many features including the one bb possesses.

Add to that list,
3. BIS
4 BES
5. Cheap cheap Internet.
6. Unlimited bandwith