jorginho says he will still like to play for pep. lets sell him quickly to them cus next season i see no hope for am for midfield. abeg offload am, e think say na community chance e go play for city, na bench like grealish get am for there.

lukaku is just useless sometimes. see how kane led tottenham attack vs city today forcing forward, passing and controlling the ball and Linking up play for front. if it was lukaku he will just stand like pole and be strolling with his stupid ball control and skill. all the top matches this season he has been useless. we must bring back broja next season to come compete with lukaku. for me broja better pass am 100 times. nonsense player.

donjazet:


Mancity's form is just so bullish. They have the highest point total in the top 5 European leagues. Even leagues we call farmers league. None have accumulated these number of points.
Truly, I'm in awe as to how Guardiola has maintained this high level of consistency for years.

be in awe of a local champion, we cfc fans are in awe our europe and world conquering coach, sir tuchel uefa consistency.

this chelsea team is the (lampard babes) mount,james,odoi,abraham all played their part in our recent successes. ucl, supercup,cwc world champions. no be only matt busby for manunited get babes . lampard cfc player,
coach legend.

so chelsea didnt sell barkley, wages excuse, cant we do a wage sharing transfer deal with any club for him? what of jorginho why couldn't we sell him even loan him out. so cus of jorginho we couldnt buy tchoumeni. in summer more clubs will compete for him. what of lukaku didn't psg come for a 70m deal or so? so we refused them and kept him. and allowed juventus get vlahovic easily. other clubs got at least one major signing, we just lost all our targets. so na so marina take win best best chairman awards ehn? chelsea no serious!!!

donjazet:

What do you think I opined? Of our own midfielders, jorginho is the best passer.
When I say better passes, I mean good weighted passes. Accurate long balls and through balls. And jorginho does this best.
Kovacic has indeed stepped up this season. I personally think he's our most improved player {although in limited appearances} but jorginho has consistently done this.

jorginho our best passer). na big joke be that,. jorginho is still useless. why is tuchel now benching him regularly now seems tuchel has had enough of his nonsense. the man city epl and all our tottenham recent carabao and last spur's game he was benched and all those games we even played better and had more midfield control. he was not missed. tuchel is going all out to buy tchoumeni cus jorginho is useless. next season its steady bench for him. gallagher, gilmour are back next season too. look at lewis hall performance in our last facup match giving accurate forward passes from defence on his debut. look how lukaku and our forwards were well served with through passes to attack. our so called passing 4 should be embarrassed. cus hall made more accurate through passes on his debut than jorginho all season. nonsense 4.

donjazet:

What do you think I opined? Of our own midfielders, jorginho is the best passer.
When I say better passes, I mean good weighted passes. Accurate long balls and through balls. And jorginho does this best.
Kovacic has indeed stepped up this season. I personally think he's our most improved player {although in limited appearances} but jorginho has consistently done this.

jorginho our best passer). na big joke be that,. jorginho is still useless why is tuchel now benching him regularly now seems tuchel has had enough of his nonsense. the man city epl and all our tottenham recent carabao and last spur's game he was be

psg want to buy lukaku 75million. thoughts?.

kante kovacic midfield is far better. at least we weren't over dominated,. see that kovacic pass to lukaku, jorginho will find short pass or go back

Ibime:


Given how we already blocked any reasonable prospect of game time for him with Lukaku and Havertz in the 9, a sell with a buyback clause will be the optimal solution

havertz isnt top 9 quality to win epl. broja would push lukaku more than him physically and tecnically.

thoughts on broja? southampton want to sign him, in fact talks have started. let chelsea dont even try it!!!!

ghana should be punished by authorities what a shameless behavior, unwilling to bring out their player from dressing room to collect red card, ayew attempting to attack gabon coach and their general attitude after full time. they should be punished heavily by africa fa, nonsense.

fantastic game it seems since that lukaku incident tuchel has sat up and adjusted tactics,. talk true fans, isn't the football improved than before?? if we play like this against mancity with this tactics i expect a tough game. lets surprise guardiola like we surprised conte. 4222 all the way.

to others still confused by the kane offside. the kane offside to my understanding is that because kane is ahead of christensen not kepa, hes offside, why i said so? look at the var replay after the goal, the line wasn't drawn with kepa but with christensen, and kane was just ahead of christensen so the var red offside line confirm the offside. so to my view with kepa out of the goal, rudiger on the goal line automatically takes over the job of a standing keeper and christensen takes the place of the last defender and kane is ahead of him slightly so hes offside. the goalkeeper is also a player, so even if he leaves the post anybody can take his place providing he doesnt use his hands. so the offside is correct.

pkasso:
LOL. Leon Britton the acclaimed best passer in the England that time Barry Ferguson of Birmingham City is another one that comes to mind. Na Jorginho pipu be that. 1000 passes, no assist

pkasso my friend no mind them, even the barry ferguson and leon britton, if you go and check, go even score and give assist pass jorginho self.

all those jorginho supporters, imagine that you go with your friends to bar to enjoy,. then manunited fans begin to praise their dm mctominay and fred say they too rugged,. mancity fans praise rodri and fernandinho say they too mark and control midfield with shooting and scoring,. arsenal fans praise partey say he too rugged and get force,. liverpool fans praise fabinho and henderson say they tight, sabi pass, cover and dey shoot. you as chelsea fan there what will you say to praise our own dm, say he dey pass sideways and sabi score penal abi??

donjazet:


This is not true. If there is a constant debate over a player, i think it reflects the player being a player of high value. A lot of Man-u fans till today are debating whether Ronaldo is really important to their team despite his record clearly showing.

Before Messi left Barca, a lot of barca fans too were constantly arguing over him with many saying that his role was overstated. I'm sure PSG fans are doing the same.
These problems are highlighted especially when things are not going perfectly for the team.
That some fans can't see the value of their own valuable player doesn't mean that play is not indeed valuable, that's why fans are not in the boardroom making decisions, their fickleness is unmatched.

I keep saying it, A jorginho in a Guardiola system would be fire. Much more than rodri is performing right now. Guardiola knows this which is why he chased him vociferously.

don don oga. abeg o i neva see manunited fans dey argue about ronaldo impact for their team before ooo. raumdeuter you don see? bluemann u don see? ibime you don see? others ona don see jorginho will perform better than rodri for where, jorginho does not have half of rodri ability in all ramifications. just check both this season alone and confirm,. so because guardiola pursue jorginho hes worldclass abi didnt the same guardiola buy bravo(gk) and sell him sharp sharp, jorginho will have been benched long ago in city or even sold with prejudice since, imagine mancity buy grealish 90million and they are benching him, a whole grealish that is one million times better than jorginho with one leg. abeg forget!!!!!!

Havertz10:
Official gist

Tuchel never wanted a striker, it was the board that wanted one, he said that it should be haaland and when the board couldn't get that deal through, instead of letting it be, they wanted to save face so they chased lakaka to offset for their failure to sign haaland, guessing that's why they supported tuchel over lakaka cause they knew that they are the ones at fault


Lakaka outburst makes sense, guessing he expected to come to Chelsea and have the team serve at his pleasure but we struggled trying to provide for him and it affected us and cost us games, should have gotten kounde and theo hernandez or hakimi

havertz 10 your name give you away, you just want havertz to be starting always so all this your long statement. tuchel no want striker for where? na defender in go want abi?

lordfalcao:
when you have this type of stats as a mildfield in two title winning team, you will be recognized

jorginho 1st tackles? 2nd ball recovery? 1st succesful presses? in last season champions league. i refuse to believe that, what i watched and saw with my own eyes??, its a very big lie. the person that made that stat how did they come up with those numbers, and who verified it. even if its so it just shows his lack of quality, all those 1st 2nd with no man of the match award think!!

donjazet:
Europe doesn't do mago mago. You don't become the 3rd best player for no reason.
You all may lie to yourselves as per hater things but the truth will always be the truth. Jorginho is a wonderful player and we are lucky to have him with us and not at mancity. Thank you Sarri for this.

donjazet you surprise me o. europe doesnt do magomago. so how come they try to fix psg manunited ucl draw but e backfire or how come messi win ballon dor the year sneijder win champions league and league and still reach wc final 2010

raumdeuter:


In 2018 Varane won the CL with Madrid, Varane won the world cup with France same season.
Varane did not win the UEFA award, He did not win any award

so where uefa right then? didnt sneijder 2010 win champions league and reached wc final, but lost ballon dor to messi. all this awards bias and ojoro plus incompetence follow you no know. think am na.

Godx:
I find the double standard amusing. When it was Busquet being discussed the narrative was he didn't win any individual award and was not recognized by FIFA/UEFA so he was carried along. But when it gets to Jorginho no one is talking about individual awards as a metric any longer. I wonder why?

guy after watching both busquets and jorginho do you really believe jorginho is better than busquets? jorginho won all this awards because his team won both cl and euros in the same season. hes not special in anyway and is noway uefa best player, just imagine kante won uefa best midfielder while another midfielder from his team won uefa best player.it just shows the incompetence of uefa. i can name comfortably ten players better than jorginho last season.

raumdeuter:


Kante had 0 goals and assists yet you are asking for Jorginhos goals and assists

raumdeuter you are very biased for jorginho. one more question. what is jorginho main quality that you see in him as a dm?

raumdeuter:


Without Harvetz, Mount Pulisic Rudiger would they be able to win?

Why didnt Kante take this performance to France to win them the Euro

you havent answered my question

raumdeuter:


I dont know if this was an attempt at comedy or what

You are asking a DM what is his goals and assist? How many goals and assist did Kante have for France when they won the world cup

So Mancini Sarri Tuchel are all stupid 2 of which won the biggest trophies of last year, I was tempted to ask for your coaching license but decided against it

true kante may not have had a goal or assist, but is kante a passing 4 as they say, is kante a regista. tell me any tournament that pirlo went to. that he didnt give an assist or scored a goal. pirlo was a dm and passing 4. so compare jorginho to pirlo not kante cus they have different roles. even in league this season was kante not the one who gave assist for pullisic goal against liverpool or what of dm that day kovacic didnt he score a goal from his shot, when last have you seen jorginho taking a shot from oceans of space or even threatening the oponent with throughou balls?

raumdeuter:


I dont know if this was an attempt at comedy or what

You are asking a DM what is his goals and assist? How many goals and assist did Kante have for France when they won the world cup

So Mancini Sarri Tuchel are all stupid 2 of which won the biggest trophies of last year, I was tempted to ask for your coaching license but decided against it

raumdeuter my friend please be honest and give a straight from heart answer to this question. without kante performaces last season will chelsea win the cl with jorginho??

raumdeuter:


Ballack has done great things like taking a hapless Germany and Leverkusen to finals they have no business being.

Jorginho wins CL as a starter with Chelsea excuse
Jorginho wins Euro with Italy excuse
Jorginhos inability makes Chelsea play community defence, what about Italy that dont play community defence with Jorginho? Silence
How come all these coaches have not replaced Jorginho since?
How come these teams won the biggest titles of 2021 with Jorginho as their lychpin
How come coaches Tuchel Mancini Sarri Lampard all start Jorginho

Football no be lawn tennis but na only Donnaruma Djokovic win Euro for Chelsea

raumdeuter my friend all those title you mention what was jorginho main contribution? the cl and euros that his teams won how many man of the match awards did he get? what of assists? chances created? all those coaches you mentioned are stupid but didnt realize it, now tuchel has realized and going all out to sign tchoumeni. why if jorginho is so good?

Ibime:


Which possession did Jogginghoe dominate? Someone that drop 30 passes in 120 mins, park bus and wait for keeper to save penalties.

Newbies to this thread will not know you get a kick out of supporting wack players Chelsea fans hate. You be saboteur. Na you even give Jorginho him nickname of Jogginghoe

my man ibime so na raumdeuter naim give jorginho him nickname jogginghoe ehn? chei raumdeuter there is god o, pls dont be like nigeria pdp apc politicians vacilitating from one party to another without concern. jorginho is useless as you have confirmed. so pls no become cfc saboteur oooh!!!

this jorginho debate again, jorginho is useless as p in psychology, p is just there to make the spelling fine and make sense, the same way jorginho is just decoration to make us look good on paper with no change or effect. if tomorrow p is removed from psychology nobody will complain, so when jorginho is benched or sold next season no chelsea fan will complain.

at last it seems tuchel is getting sense by trying a new formation, we saw the impact and tottenham were completely surprised and dominated, this is how i expect chelsea to play going forward against those yeye epl small teams that park the bus against us. we never looked in danger and created so many clear chances. we try. one last thing i think the formation was 4231 not 433.

hensben:
With Lukaku playing we will not win any trophies, he is useless in high intensity game, against quality teams.

so lukaku is useless for trophies so why did inter win serie a?

i have a dream. if not for coaches big ego, just imagine guardiola as chelsea coach, tuchel as assistant, klopp as tecnical coach, rangnick as sporting director, omo we will win league and uefa cl tire. no be so?