https://www.nairaland.com/2020779/opinion-boko-haram-solution-usraeli

I would not be surprised if there is truth to this. Nigeria's problem is very USraeli.

TheRealMrStan:


http://www.channelstv.com/2014/11/30/victim-kano-emir-mosque-attack-says-bombs-remotely-detonated/

Cc: Lalasticala Ishilove Obinoscopy Mukina2

Sorry to bother. Please can you delete all threads started by me. Thanks in advance.

Dargreen: i dont know if anyone has ever thought of this or has been thinking abouut this ; but who did the offspring of firstman and woman marry to continue life ; *just curious*

Each their brother and sister.

Thank you Wordsbase.

Mr Troll: @virick, i like as you state that it is just your opinions. .

Oh but its is, IT IS!!! It matters not per se what I think is true. What matters is that I am thinking for myself. I know that one apple and another apple is 2 apples because I have had the pleasure of counting. It is my opinion that there are two apples because I have experienced the counting of it. However, the same cannot be said for the majority of earth's citizens. The leaders are professing in essence that one apple and another apple is eleven apples and the sheep that we are believe it and repeat it adinfinitum as truth while failing to realise that they have no opinions of their own. They refuse to count the proverbial apples themselves, or in this context THINK FOR THEMSELVES because someone told them they will go to heaven, if they just...... Believe. Quite frankly, I would be laughing most profusely if that wasn't so tragic.

rahim01: Is it true that to kill an infidel' is not murder "but it's the path to GODLYNESS!

I hope u are not trying to incite religious strains my friend. Who are those who say what u have quoted above? Let us discuss.

wordsbase:

Well, M̶̲̥̅γ̲̣̣̥ dear Virick, I'm sure you'll agree with me that it woulld be equallly absurd if I think and talk like I was existing in some unidentified, perhaps even yet discovered planet some where in the skies. So pardon me, I am limited by the environment I know. I say again, God created everything there is, known and unknown. And the worlld as we know it would come to an end. I hope your reasoning gives you clear understanding of what I've said for the umpteenth time.

But let me observe that you clearly show your desire to know. It's also clear that your "reasoning" has failed to give you the answers you seek. And if by any means I have failed to see them, please do well to state them here also.

Perhaps, we'll start with the beginning. I believe that God, the father, created the heavens and the earth, the world, and everything we know to exist, the order of time, seasons, space and all there is, and and the waters, and everything in, and on them. And he created all of it for his pleasure.

Please state without mincing words what your "reasoning" has helped you discover about the beginning of things, if at all you believe there was a beginning.

I make note of the fact that u have not answered my question in writing. Perhaps i will quote Mr. Troll if i failed to be explicit enough as his comment is quite point-blank.

They're here everyday shouting how the world will end, not knowing or consciously ignoring the fact that we are but a tiny speck of sand in this cosmos. So you omni omni god will destroy jupiter and pluto too because. . . Is he that wasteful? So he'll destroy everything in the entire universe and create 'new heavens and new earth' because of the sins of the earthlings which constitute less than 0.00000000001% of the entire universe! How wise!!!

Basically, u like most of this are avoiding the type of thinking which will clash with ur faith. As usual, faith and faithfuls are the most difficult to unteach because faith cannot be reasoned with, hence the term faith. So be it.
Ur comments point in the direction of the real absurdity which states that the whole starry cosmos will end because this planet centres that cosmos essentially. What is so special about this planet that ties its existence to the well being of the peaceful and organised cosmos? U folks on this planet barely know anything of truth about the creator. U are all children of the Lie and u live a lie which is enforced by faulty reasoning born out of fear fed to u by ur controllers to whom u have willingly relinquished ur God-hood and sovereignty. U have not been told the truth about ur place in the universe since u were born. U have been indoctrinated in the fine art of walking life with ur eyes and ears wide-shut and u pass on such false-hood to ur children who evolve and perpetuate the absurdities even futher.

The purpose of my seemingly cheeky question is to get u to reason for urself without being spoon-fed with my opinion on the matter, which i am entitled to. Now tell me, how do you think u did? Would u like to rate urself out of 10? This equally applies to all reading this.

I do however acknowledge most thankfully ur comment

I am limited by the environment I know.

You are so right. And to that i always say that "a problem realised is one half solved".
U know the problem, the solution should be obvious if u are sincerely interested in rectifying thinking anomaly prevalent on this planet. God has endowed all its thinking-capable children with the gift of free will - The choice is urs as to where to go from here.

Perhaps, we'll start with the beginning. I believe that God, the father, created the heavens and the earth, the world, and everything we know to exist, the order of time, seasons, space and all there is, and and the waters, and everything in, and on them. And he created all of it for his pleasure.

Is God a "HE"? Food for thought.
No, It did not create them for "his" pleasure. That is what ur faith teaches and that is why ur faith books are littered with stories of a destructive, vengeful god. A god who pleasures in breaking its own presumed laws with impunity. A god which pleasures itself with the misery of its children and sets them against each other saying; go and kill, go and steal, go and plunder. Most hilarious. That is an invented god, one crafted in the image of evolving jungle man.

God created all things for the purpose of manifesting itself. At the core of each thing is God. We are all thus one. It does not get simpler than that.

I agree with most of ur comment above, i simply desire that u think it further as i cannot do that for you.
The essence of what i am saying is this:

The universe is 'massive'. If u were to stand outside of it, the earth is not visible. The universe may be compared with ur body, to which the size of earth is that of a red blood cell, for instance. If that particular red blood cell where to 'die'. The body will not be affected. Each blood cell has a part to play in keeping ur body running smoothly. Ur body, is God's body. The cosmos by extension of the analogy, is God's Body. The implication of this is that there is no room in the scheme of creation for the things which ur faiths tell u. The very same faiths that fought against those who gifted ur planet with common sense of reasoning. How many years ago did ur bible wielding leaders persecute a visionary who told them that the sun did not revolve around the earth?
Could it be that there is more good sense that u are all still fighting against even today, 2013? Please Ponder that.

It is thus a thing of sheer arrogance, if not blatant willful ignorance to say that while truly, God created the cosmos, "He" tied the faith of that cosmos to one planet filled with people who have not the foggiest idea of their tiny place in a dynamic, vibrant, bustling universe of many civilsations of God-loving, and God knowing beings.

There is thus no room for ur mythologies about a heaven and by a extension, a hell of ur religious mal-teachings. That type of thinking persists because u folks of this planet believe that ur planet is the only one with Thinking beings. Not! This planet and its resident humans is an evolving one and you are still growing. Be humble enough to at least acknowledge that and do NOT be so smug in ur fallacies ala myopia.

I asked the question about eternity in "heaven" because i wanted to u all to see for urselves how much thinking is not happening. If there is a heaven and hell of ur religious mal-teachings, then where do other God's children of other planets go to when the "die". Ponder that.

So folks, let me take the question further:

What is heaven?

Where is Heaven?

In my opinion, it exists But it is not as boring and insipid as taught by religions. U only get to go there after many, many millions of years of being perfected through many, many lifetimes such as this one. You do not get to go there after one crummy life-time however. Further more, when u achieve heaven, u are sent back out into creation to assist ur younger evolving brethren. No Hallelujahs, hosannas and eternal blissful laziness. U get to work. U might also want to consider that 'heaven' is not in the clouds but on a planet as well.
Ah! But that is my opinion which comes from no book. What is urs? Start thinking and let ur thoughts go wild!!!.............................

Thank you folks, Wordbase,

Virick Ponders.

In the meantime, any more takers on what one does in heaven of ur imaginings for all eternity? There is no real answer i am hiding per se, only right thinking. Please, Keep thinking.

wordsbase:

Creation isn't centered around this planet. Like I said, from earth and everything in it, to space and everything in it as we know it, and those yet to be discovered were created by God. And when the world comes to an end, everything as we know it, both here on earth and even in space, things discovered and yet to be discovered, would end also.

We are here and perhaps that's why it seems like creation is centered around this planet.

I suggest you read Revelations 6. That may help you see really the events that would take place.

Brethren,

Let us analyze ur thoughts here for u are not the only one who thinks like so. Within ur post, u essentially have two different answers. Both contradict each other. One answer embodies God-endowed capacity to reason things through whether such reasoning be right or wrong. The other embodies ur need to remain faithful to thinking that is NOT YOURS, but someone else' - it is borne out of fear.

U say in one breath that the earth is not the centre of the universe. To say otherwise would have been funny, because much evidence exists in that regard. U and I know that the earth is not flat and that the sun does not revolve around the this planet either. Now that is reasoning, in a sense.
Yet here u are telling me that when this world comes to 'an end', the rest of the far flung cosmos does so too because u believe God created earth and put the stars in the sky merely for ur viewing pleasure, which is an irony because people do look at the stars anyways, if u did, u would have seen ur elder brothers and sisters (yes, God's other children) shooting across ur skies.
Anyways, I might as well compare earth to Japan and the rest of the cosmos to every other country on this earth, and then tell u that if Japan should sink in a cataclysmic event or on 'judgement day', that the all other countries will do likewise. U would be most appalled if i told u proof of that is in the Japanese constitution which all Japanese believe is the word! Do u see where i am going?

I will agree with u that God, the father-mother is the creator of the Cosmos. U would however be indulging in nothing more but free-willed cognitive dissonance to tell urself that when this little planet which can be compared to ONE grain of sand on the beaches of the whole world should end, that the rest of beaches will go down with it. Is that reasonable wordsbase? Is that really God's way of thinking or is that man's? Oh come now!
May i ask for how much longer you humans of this planet plan to indulge in thinking that defies logic?

Even if i give my own answers, it would be naught but my opinion born of my own thinking with God that dwells within me and gives my being a fulcrum to manifest myself. However the majority of you humans are not truly thinking. U are being thought for. U enjoy it. And that is why u are easily manipulated. U call it faith, i call it tragic.

It is part of my personal mission to awaken thinking capacity in all i encounter. I think i am done bothering to tell my version of truth. I would however like to see more independent thinking. I would like u to lay the books aside for a moment or two, withdraw into a state of silence and Ponder ur thoughts most carefully. Even ur bible says "Be still and know".

Now my dear friend wordbase, i ask again. If this world should come to an end, will the far flung cosmos come to an end too? I would further ask, WHY? No books, no quotations please. Think freely! Think!, i beg of you. for within such thoughts lay the seeds of ur liberation for this myopic matrix u call reality or faith.

Take care,

Virick Ponders.

wordsbase:

Well, first of all, It's important that you appreciate the fact that God created everything we see and can not see, living ang non living things, be it the stars, the moon, planets, the billions of galaxies, all that there is was created by God. Man too you know.

The bible says that when the world as we know it comes to an end, there would be a new heaven and a new earth, everything as we know it woulld be transfoRmed into a more glorious existence. Even our bodies would be changed.

I trust that beauty as we know it now of whatever there is, is just a shadow of the beauty that woud be then.

So creation is centred around this planet? As in, once this planet ends for the purposes u mentioned, then all the starry skies too will.

wordsbase: I think that the first question should be if you beieve there if God does exist. This places the lline between religious enthusiats (whatever the inclinations are) and atheists.

For the atheists, let me burst your bubbles a bit. You hold the view that there is no God hence you claim to be free from the demands of religious faith and practice, and the seeming foolishness it portends, not knowing that in doing that, you create a religion for yourself. Think about it. For every indices of religion, you find same in atheism: the worship of self and intellectualism.. You become a god unto yourselves.

Unfortunately, you didn't create yourself, and the one who created you has made know to you the way live, the way to him, Jesus Christ, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

The world is coming to a end, and God loves you too much to want you to perish... Repent this day, and accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour. There is forgiveness, life, joy, excitement, in him. Heaven isn't a boring place. It's where the King of kings dwells.

So what happens to the rest of the starry cosmos when this one planet comes to end? Do the come to an end as well?

luckyCO: People in heaven do one thing which they cant finish doing in all eternity that is learning God.
Everyday people in heaven learn another wonders of God joy,praises,worship is on top gear.
God cant learned completely whole.

Using human example,
Imagine you are to discover effective way to cure hipatitis,hiv,tb,without spending money & your name is written in the guinness book of record. You can imagine how joyful you will be having seen many people die mercilessly in the hand of these diseases.

If you can be joyful for that simply discovery image you discovering more things about God.

For that heaven weariness or boring-ness in heaven

U do not learn God in "heaven", u do that on planets by taking on a body and "living a life". As u learn God, u manifest God THAT YOU ARE. White cannot outshine white. White can outshine 'black' however. What is there to learn in a place where all things are perfect and lazy? U folks of this planet need to start fixing ur planet and manifest God on it. U are turning this one into a toilet because u envision a place where u will not be responsible for ur reckless thought patterns. Come now my dear brethen, THINK!

wordsbase:

No I haven't witnessed these places before. But I am a christian and my faith tells me that these places are really; I believe my bible. Even if without the truth from the bible, I think I've lived long enough in this world to know that there is good and bad, love and hatred, beauty and ugliness, sweet and sour, health and pain, each a direct opposite of the other. These are enough proof to show that there indeed is a place called heaven and a place called hell. And I pray you believe!

So who gets to go to heaven and who does not? Where will the Muslims go? Spicey question? Fair enough.

Ok, where will the Buddhists go to? Heaven or Hell? Where will the "unbelievers" go to? Heaven or Hell?
Where will those born mentally "deformed" go to?
Where will those born in utter and absolute abject poverty go to, having known nothing but a violent life in which they must steal or fight for their legitimate right of survival?
Where will the lady born blind, deaf and dumb go to?

Do u sincerely envision a god that places a race to heaven (of ur doctrine) before each individual while placing them at a "disadvantage" to begin with?
What racing sport do u know of in which all contestants do not start from the same "at your marks", mmh?

Oh wait, let me place ur possible responses:
*god is judge and "HE" alone knows how "HE" will judge them.
No?
Ok,
God has sent his messengers to the four corners to spread "The word" and one way or another, all must have heard "the word", so there is no excuse.
Or
For Catholics, They will spend some years in purgatory since it was not their fault that they did not "accept Jesus" in their lives.

My, my, my....

Once again, Think again
Think this thru.
Think!
DO NOT fear considering all possibilities, do not fear to question ur idea of truth for in questioning it will it shine or shrivel for the truth or untruth it is.

That is my thrust. You can do better than quote books which ur soul knows to be senseless, so to speak.

Anyways, what do u plan to do there for all eternity? I urge u to Think it thru.

wordsbase: I pray for as many of you as do not know Jesus, that you repent of your sins and surrender to Christ your life; that HE will give you a divine revelation of himself. Heaven is real, Hell is also real. The suffering we experience here are nothing compared to the torment that goes on in hell. The same way the joys and pleasure we have here are nothing compared to the joys and pleasures in heaven.

I look forward to worshiping God in heaven like I never have here on earth because of the limitations of my flesh. Worshipping God is an experience to have. Read rev. 4.

Are these ur thoughts or someone else's? Stop for a moment or two, the art of parroting others. What does your heart say on the topic?

Mr Troll: in other words heaven does not exist!

There is nothing i love more than a fearless thinker. Why do u think it does not exist when "everyone" believes otherwise?

esere826: based on my belief in christ which u fault


...i suspect that the those in heaven will be re-twigged mentally to cope with eternity
just like angels are designed to face issues or tasks different from men
and the grass of the fields have their own 'dimension'

I also suspect that the retwigging will ensure that beings dont rebel or disobey like satan an adam did
if they did, the whole 'mess' will begin over again


...the question u've asked is really deep and none religious-friendly
my explanation also links to my post here: https://www.nairaland.com/1458622/what-gods-point-reference-good

U never mind as to my intent. It never goes beyond sowing the seeds of truth within the thoughts of my brethren.

As you can see, you are doing Thinking of ur own, which is my thrust. Most of the human population of this planet do not and cannot Think for themselves anymore, they are thought for by others who most of the time haven't the foggiest idea of that which they speak.

Thank you Esere.

It is simply hard to believe that u all are my fellow Nigerians. U see, it matters not entirely what any here thinks is the right answer and that includes me and my opinion (which I will share later when I have more time), but what matters is the fact that u are all THINKING for urselves, u are all, Pondering! I have not seen so far, quotations from any religious books. I am impressed. Wow!
It is heart warming to see thoughts that extend in attempts to encompass the cosmos, instead of ur small planet on the edge of this particular universe.

Una well done ooooooo......

Virick Ponders.

RationalDude: So, what is it exactly?
Hmmmn......
Never heard before. Care to expatiate?
Nah.

Like you said, the senses are very convincing and yet extremely susceptible to illusions.

Dude,

Perhaps it is better to open another thread for this. Please remember what i said about "Se/x division" it is everywhere present an in forms that we are yet to recognize as such. This thread is about the seeming lack of a female at creative level for which i say there is always a female in every equation and that female is the conceptual "holy spirit" of religious mis-teachings. She is equal to Male and both spring from se/xlessness and to that state of genderlessness (asexual per ur argument) they must return for dividing again. Am i making sense?

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQvlVR4Uhg0

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9DNWcqxI4

In a "asexual" reproduction, there is always division into males and females, always. No effect of motion is exempt and natural law of balance is always consistent as 'God' is consistent in its creative processes which we have booboo'd by claiming the creative trinity is an all male homosexual party, i mean no offense to gay folks please.

Never heard before. Care to expatiate?

If u read my post, i gave and example of sodium and chlorine. Please re-read. I will also add, if i did not before, that when they mate, there is no trace of sodium nor chlorine. Both are gone and all that is left is the seed of se/xlessness personified in a perfect cube. That se/xless cube once electrocuted will divide further into sodium and chlorine for re-voidance of the same two back to zero. And the cycle repeats ever and on.

Are u sincerely asking or are u being sarcastic? please let me know so we don't waste both our times. sorry if i am rushy, i have been quite busy.

Brain and Troll, in other words, u do not know, do u?

Ajibam: giving God glory that he deserves

How will that be done exactly?

Is there a chance that anyone can give answers that reflect true independent thinking with the use of God endowed Mind? Still, quotations from ur favourite books are welcome.

noblefada:
Point of correction it is debate among the unbelievers who of course the book says it will be foolishness to them, so that not my problem.

esere826: Virick, Virick

I enjoyed your narrative on our 'none-existense"
imagine that the ONE is also a figment of another's imagination
and this simplicity goes on and on into a web of confusion which is actually simple for the right type of reasoning

i guess it gets to a point where we throw our hands up and say "itz enough"
"my senses are growing numb from too much thinking ... just give me that old time religion. its good enough for me"

As u wish.

noblefada: Let say me this as a conclusion, what I've noticed here is the many opinions and confusion people have concerning the bible is due to not being able to rightly divide the word of truth and its largely due to the failure of the churches to teach believers adequately, hence we have a lot of confuse folks and those with their personal opinions. In John 16, Jesus said it is expedient that I go away, so that the comforter will come and He will guide you into ALL the TRUTH! meaning the explanation of the bible is in the epistles, so for us to understand the serpent, the tree of life, the fruit, the manna, the law and all the OT; we have to come to the epistles, although a little was explained in the gospel, but a clear understanding can only be found in the epistles. That my friend is the dilemma many have and unfortunately until the come to this understanding they will always remain confuse. Finally this was done purposely so that man will not trust in his own knowledge. Shalom

The premise of ur assumption is the book which is in debate. The accused cannot be the defender my friend.

esere826: Imagine this

"God says that we should snap our necks when we get to the age of 40"
"do not dare question him"

I esere826 write that down as a book and 'religion" and folks pick it up some years from now

then someone sits on a socialmedia platform some 200 yrs from now and says that the book of esere826 says do not think or question this command


You can see from the above that the only way to be sure that the book of esere826 is the word of God is to engage with it, and not to abandon reasoning. Afterall God made us with brains so we can reason

Well put.

Philipsdael: How can you proove the authenticity of the bible?
Book that was formulated and writen by some folks who sleep and woke-up wretched hut then started writing some contradictory BS.
#Is the Bible the only book that was ALLEGEDLY inspired by God
The Muslims will also come with their theory thats also Allegedly inspired by same God.
The Indus, the Buddist and Judaist etcetra will also come with their profound theories that was also Allegedly inspired by God.....!
Don't even start by debunking other peoples religious believe cos if you were born in a family of such distant religion.... U may even end-up being a preast in the religion..... Just as u're born or grew up in a christian/muslim dominated country like Nigeria..... this is why your perception is configured in your current line of thought.
I was born in a christian home of devotees, thanks to God, i was librated from the narrow-line of thought.
Even the Christian-doctrin differs from church to church caused by this self-contradictory book called the bible.
Am not against any particular Religion, rather am against the ideology of Religion as a whole.
BS

5 out of 5 stars.

nitrogen: @Esere, don't waste your time jare, we (Nigerians) take it as it comes, esp. anything religous, our clerics told us to always be gullible, so leave us alone!

LOL!

At least u know what the problem is. I always say, "that a problem realised in one half solved". You possess the solution, ditch the clerics and gain true freedom.

esere826:

yep, i have considered it
i have also considered that we do not really exist
and we are only a figment of some being's imagination (long before i watched the matrix)
have you also considered this?
have you considered that your existense is only an imagination? that you are not real?

Yes i have pondered this to degrees in which it now constitutes dynamic, provable Knowledge to me. With regards to 'figment of imagination', i would say, in my opinion, that u are on the proverbial ball! The one u call me, virick does not exist. Esere does not exist. HOWEVER, the ME and YOU which centres virick and Esere FROM WITHIN exists, being the only reality. That ME and YOU i spoke of above is the ONE SAME PERSON, THE ONE REAL REALITY. That reality is 'God' of humanity's mal-teachings.

You see, in my humble opinion, there is only ONE THINKER, and ONE IMAGINER. THERE IS ONLY PERSON THAT EXISTS. That person imagines up many seeming different identities of things from stones/minerals, to flowers, animals and persons, and each is 'God' to the degree of which the recognise and are aware of that 'God' WITHIN them. The implication is that all identities while seemingly apart are all one for they are all, shall i say, "in the head" of God and therefore such concepts as "hell fire" cannot possibly exist despite religious mal-teachings to the contrary. U and I which centres Esere and Virick, therefore, 'IS' ONE.

Let me prove the concept of imagination to u that u may know this dynamically and not abstractly.

Imgaine a walk down the beach. The breeze on ur body's skin. The wave crashing on the shores. The children building sand structures. The folks taking a carefree dip and splashing the water on each other. They are all interacting with each other and to each they are seemingly different identities and persons interacting with the other. The go by different identifiers: James, Jill, Foluke, chidinma, sand, salt, water, clouds, swim suites etc.
However, only YOU the imaginer of this scenario is real. But ur imaginings have not been taught this fact for reasons such as religions and their disastrous doctrines. They think their bodies and identities are real and that they started existing when their indentities were born. They will eventually learn thru teachers sent by that same imaginer that each of them is centred by and find their existence possible only because of the ONE THINKER and IMAGINER thinks them be. The Soul Idea of each identity is the same ONE SOUL of the grand thinker, 'YOU'!.

ONE PERSON exists. We (our souls) are all thus that ONE.

So when u say that we do not really exist or ask whether I (that is virick) exists, you are right and we are thus on the same page. Manifestation of the Grand Imaginer which all identities are IS NOT the Grand Imaginer which these identities manifest. You must separate identities from centering intelligence which is the same centering intelligence in all the far flung cosmos.

Once again, Virick or Esere IS NOT real. However, that which manifests 'God' in the form of Virick and Esere and this rickety computer for instance, is real and the only Valid reality. But i think u know this.

A conclusion is only as sound as the premise on which such is made. As per usual the premise for such courageous question is the one book which tells blatant lies about much, including the Adam and Eve (so called first couple) and an apple tree. Perhaps u might want to consider that the apple tree as a means of temptation is a lie, in the first place.

*Kails*:


Lmao. Tell me you are being sarcastic.

No, i am not. why do u think so?

FOLYKAZE: We have to die at one form to be born in another....

Im God.

Yes, YOU is 'God'.

Hello Billyonaire,

To ur 1st post, the thought to consider is that perhaps nothing is 'alive' in the first place. Yes, anymore so than than ur car for instance, can be considered "alive".

'God' alone is LIFE ETERNAL which centres and controls all things from within, the primary source of motivation which we as a young planetary people of this particular planet in 'our' early stage of unfolding interpret as "life".

Ur car can be said to be "alive" when u 'step into it' and motivate it thru desire to do so, it can also be called "dead" when u withdraw ur desire to motivate it and step out of it. The direct analogy of ur car is "living things" or "life" or "Billyonaire".
Now tell me, by ur perception, is or was ur car ever "alive" to even begin with?? More so, are u sure Billy is even "alive" in the first place? You Billy, are not ur car when u sit in it, are u?
Your car when motivated or "alive" merely manifests "Billyonaire" but ur car IS NOT Billyonaire which it manifests when "alive", is it?

Let's take this further with the above analogy, Billyonaire manifests the Soul that is YOU. 'YOU' IS NOT Billyonaire, are u with me?

'YOUs' do not die, never having been born but merely manifested in transient forms called "living things" AND "dying things" too. There is only LIFE ETERNAL which YOU is. There really is no living nor dying. Creation is merely cyclic in manifesting seeming life, followed by seeming death and then seeming life again.

Once again, and in other word arrangements, "Living things" of our perception are not "alive", they only seem so. However and again, "living things" merely manifest centering intelligence which was never created nor born and therefore cannot possibly die. Please meditate on this to further awaken the Knowledge u seek which is already in you (Billy), It is YOU!

If we were to go by the assumption that things which are born, grow and die are "alive" or "living things", then it proves that Humanity has made massive errors based on what its senses convinces it as fact, but IS NOT. I say so because u forget ur lowly metal cutlery too is "alive", by current definition of "life", for it too was born, it is "living" AND it will "die". No? What do u imagine rust is? The direct analogy of rust is decay is "organisms", is it not?

So, is the spoon "alive" within the context of the current definition of "alive"? I would answer NO.
Once again, Is Billyonaire alive? Ponder that.

There is but only LIFE ETERNAL manifested and then sequentially unmanifested for re-manifesting ("re"Incarnation) - Cycles. There is no death because nothing is which is "alive" in the first place.

Again, that which manifests LIFE ETERNAL or soul is not the life which it manifests.

'God' of Humanity's misunderstanding is that LIFE ETERNAL i speak of, and each of YOU is 'GOD'.
'GOD' manifests self thru myriad forms from the mineral, thru to the vegetable and animal kingdoms. All these appear and disappear continuously being naught but a manifestation of 'God' which alone is LIFE, these things are by no means, "alive".

It is time we started ditching religious teachings and mere sense perception as the premise for higher thinking for they are designed to prevent just that.

To ur comments below:

Billyonaire:

of course I know that death is shift of consciousness from 3rd dimensional existence to other consciousness, I have experienced life in other consciousness during my moment in astral projections and bi-location. but I do believe that if a people become more aware of what death means, the wanton quest for materialism will reduce drastically and even virgin hunters will better educated to embrace the transient moments we have on 3rd dimension while waiting for reality at death.

You are right. However, there is more to materialism than meets the eye, in my opinion. Materialism is tightly related to the lawful desire for body survival, happiness and a sense of fulfillment. However what it takes to "keep body and soul together" on this planet is mostly invented by the Global elite and their patented idea, money. When money goes, then people will be free to think higher thoughts, never having to worry about a hungry stomach or a cold night - Our civilsation will advance beyond current capacity to even comprehend, just as on other planets. A person who cannot be assured of one full meal per day cannot possibly be interested in higher thoughts such as the ones u ponder. U cannot blame folks for being materialistic, it's the Global system in place that has made it so specifically to make sure that we are all preoccupied with getting "stuff" which normally should be free and abundant. The next culprit is religion and the bullshit they expound. I'll leave it at that.