ForValour:
Think before you type rubbish indignant fool. Now be honest, how much do you spend in a month presently?

obviously you're not in the public service but I am and you don't know about our pain since 2020 lockdown ignoramus.

IAmHim1:
APT!

The money in circulation isn't backed with the production of goods so the new money in the form of proposed minimum wage steals value from the old money making value of money go down

Food prices ain't going up.
Your Money value is going down

https://www.nairaland.com/8081414/nigerias-inflation-state-federal-governments

Prices of Goods & Services will actually go up.

femi4:
In a Country that doesn't know how to control price, it leaves you with no choice

Price control will only provide little relief.
There is actually no quick-fix solution. Govt needs to seriously sit up & start addressing all the various factors contributing to high inflation.

1Alex:
will your suggestion be done over night or even in one year? . So workers will keep perishing till they land on a solution after these trial and error policies?

Prices of everything have increased by more than 200% and the salaries remain the same. If you were a civil servant, you would not have made this suggestion.

Anyhow e go be make e be. Make them increase the minimum wage.

No mind them..bmost of them are just bad bele. They like seeing workers coming to beg them for food...

GanagiBitrus:

Price control will only provide little relief.
There is actually no quick-fix solution. Govt needs to seriously sit up & start addressing all the various factors contributing to high inflation.

No
When there is stability in price, addressing min wage won't be everyday issue. That's how its done in a saner clime

Inflation didn't start with this regime

cjudy:

What I have is permanent kid. I laboured to acquire all. We are not in the same grade and I keep telling you. Go and hustle legit and make money so you can have a beautiful family with children all around you. Get a life kid

You are too foolish to mention. Your portion is your portion backed by your uncommon stupidity. You have enjoyed enough attention from me, now back to your cursed hole. Always remember to keep your worthless opinions to yourself. I have to forgive myself for giving you such leverage, a stupid, uncultured rubbish rat. You can do more digging maybe you will find more rubbish to munch on but I am done with you.

ForValour:
You are too foolish to mention. Your portion is your portion backed by your uncommon stupidity. You have enjoyed enough attention from me, now back to your cursed hole. Always remember to keep your worthless opinions to yourself. I have to forgive myself for giving you such leverage, a stupid, uncultured rubbish rat. You can do more digging maybe you will find more rubbish to munch on but I am done with you.

See fool living in uncompleted building. Come and talk to me na. I’m not your grade poor kid. Go and get a life. Scamming, gambling and dropping your emails won’t help you. Go and meet your grade to argue about betting. Ewu

femi4:
No
When there is stability in price, addressing min wage won't be everyday issue. That's how its done in a saner clime

Inflation didn't start with this regime

If Price Control is the solution, why has Govt not embarked on it.

Look, in a Free Economy like ours, prices of Goods & Services are largely determined by forces or Demand & Supply.

VaginaAcademic:
obviously you're not in the public service but I am and you don't know about our pain since 2020 lockdown ignoramus.

I appreciate the efforts of civil servants and especially kowning their earnings is rather fixed which may not reflect existing economic reality. The 5 year review period is too far apart and the interval for periodic upgrade should be a year apart. However, with the current state of thing, asking state governments and private companies to pay workers 615k a month is not feasible.

Mandesz:

Your submission is subjective and based on self interest. Most of u not salary earners don't know the importance of increase in minimum wage. If the situation is left like this, in a couple of year most Nigerians ( including non salary earners) will live in abject poverty.

I only stated the consequences of a new minimum wage, which can't be faulted.
No quick fix solution; the only way forward is for Govt to sit up & seriously start addressing all the factors contributing to high inflation.

AJERO IS SICK,IT IS VALUE OF MONEY THAT MATTERS FIRST NOT THE QUANTITY. MAKING IT 615K IS MADNESS,BECAUSE IT WILL INVARIABLE RAISE INFLATION TO PANDAMONIUS LEVEL.
NLC SHOULD CALL FOR REASONAL MINIMUM WAGE OF N70K,THEN DEMAND FEDERAL GOVT TO OPEN FOOD BANKS ACROSS NIGERIA TO SELL FOOD AT SUBSIDIZED RATE TO NIGERIANS......

GanagiBitrus:

New Minimum Wage =>More Money in Circulation =>Higher Inflation =>Demand for New Minimum Wage...

&the Vicious Cycle continues.

Until a BALANCE is reached.!!

GanagiBitrus:


I merely stated the consequences of a new minimum wage, which can't be faulted.

It's still the same thing either it goes to the people or to the politicians, which do you prefer, because of too much money and nothing to do with it while the politicians loot the money, with a proper economic plan it would not cause inflation, the government should invest massively in mechanised farming, create more jobs opportunities ensure our refineries are back on stream, I don't trust this Dangote refinery, with good economic plans 150k will be fair enough.

Make govt too come out with their own breakdown, you can see how NLC put figures to their own wage.

Nigeria govt don't use the same market we the citizens are using and they are subsidizing all aspects of their own lives.

Many of these civil servants go as far as sleeping in the office because of transportation fare.

In4matic:
So many paid agents on this platform who tactfully avoid the main issues.
What are the main issues?
1. To have a labour force awake to their duties.
2. Checkmate workers always asking for bribes.
3.To arrest the brain drain in the country.

The purpose of the proposed living wage is to ensure the lowest worker, his/her spouse and 4 dependants can live a basic life without the need to seek extra.

Now, with that said, let's really break it down:
N270,000÷30 days= N9,000 per day for 6 persons.
Meaning N1,500 per person daily
Or N500 per meal.

Is that too much?

Next is transportation.
Unless we are lying to ourselves, a junior worker or senior worker all pay the same bus fare, the same as school children.

Let's break it down.
N110,000÷22 days= 5,000 per day
Working father: N2,000 (to and fro).
Market mother: N1,000 (to and fro)
4 school kids: N500×4= 2000 daily

Is that too much?

Factor in Rent, Clothing, medication, utilities and you see. This family are just surviving.

This won't lead to inflation, rather stability in the economy because, money will flow again as purchasing power has increased.
An unemployed person who engages in a trade or learns a skill is sure of patronage because people can afford his services.

All these kids on this platform still eating "Mummy-thank you" cannot understand because all they see is the lump sum.

Who's going to pay it? Is it the same people struggling to pay 30k? If they can claim lack of funds to pay 30k on time, what gives you the confidence that they'll ever pay over 1000% increase, NO BE JUJU BE THAT?

pharmagba:
Unserious labour leaders, they don't know the enormity of task at hand hence throwing up figure recklessly oblivious of other factors as government earnings and amount that should be for capital project from earnings.
All earnings cannot be for recurrent.
N80,000 is realistic and OK.
Someone that has been surviving on N35k will.survive on N80k

Stupid talk

CharleyBright:
N615,000 minimum wage is not feasible.
Labour unions are being selfish.
What happens to all other people that are not civil servant and won't be paid N615k? No be same market everyone go buy from? The civil servants will have much more to spend, while the the pepper seller and vulcanizer man on the streets have less to spend.
When FG removed fuel subsidy, didn't it affect everyone , so why would labour unions be demanding for 615k for workers alone?.
What about the inflationary effects on the economy?
Best the FG should do is double present minimum wage of 30k and make it 60k. Any worker that don't want it should resign and go home.

Another stupid talk

Barims:



Another stupid talk

Foolish greedy and unproductive civil servant like you.
Go and force FG to pay you N615,000 minimum wage nah. What value are the civil service workers adding to the nation aside corruption?
FG should pay you 615k monthly for doing what?
Nonsense

That's an effect not A CAUSE

GanagiBitrus:

Prices of Goods & Services will actually go up.

If minimum wage is 615k expect 5k note and 10k note expect bread 13500

DeOTR:

Same idiots that can't pay people in their employ 30k monthly? Let's be reasonable abeg.
I support a significant increase in the minimum wage, but to be honest with you, 600k is too outrageous.
Something around 100k should be fine.
It's not enough to be fighting for minimum wage abeg, labor should also be fighting against the maximum wage.
At least, let them base minimum wage as a percentage of the maximum wage of any public servant, elected or appointed.
Something like, the minimum wage should not be less than 1% of a senator's take home pay for instance.

Until they do that labour should ask for more.

I can understand that this government has caused a lot of pain but 615k?

Must be a joke.

We are not really ready for advancement in this nation we are still in this scrunchy economy and the house are paying themselves #28million of which the initial was #12million and we are all here clamoring and shouting that there will be inflation if they increase the common work's minimum wages to #615,000, but inflation has not happened when the house increased their own pedestal, there's no amount you can pay these workers that could be enough in this current situation we find ourself, if we look at the money scooped at Kogi state is a enough to pay appreciable workers in the state with the new minimum wage don't let us be deceiving ourselves cant the masses also enjoy the dividend of democracy and year in year out trillions are stolen here and there without proper sanctions so who is deceiving who.
They can pay this money and they can also make things right in Nigeria only if we are truthful to ourselves and the fear of God is with individual.

abbey621:


Who's going to pay it? Is it the same people struggling to pay 30k? If they can claim lack of funds to pay 30k on time, what gives you the confidence that they'll ever pay over 1000% increase, NO BE JUJU BE THAT?

No they will struggle to pay. But when they Govs and senators want to discuss an issue they will travel abroad to go discuss it, buy 160m jeep each for their comfort coupled with the constituency and security votes that they siphon each month, bribe each other with dollars during election, increase electricity tariffs at their discretion and then devalue the naira for whatever reason and the corruption that follows they don't see any reason to struggle for all that but to pay higher wages they will struggle and people like you will only see when the struggling masses are trying to do something to survive.

The 615k might be unrealistic but it's a good place to start.

codedguy1:


No they will struggle to pay. But when they Govs and senators want to discuss an issue they will travel abroad to go discuss it, buy 160m jeep each for their comfort coupled with the constituency and security votes that they siphon each month, bribe each other with dollars during election, increase electricity tariffs at their discretion and then devalue the naira for whatever reason and the corruption that follows they don't see any reason to struggle for all that but to pay higher wages they will struggle and people like you will only see when the struggling masses are trying to do something to survive.

The 615k might be unrealistic but it's a good place to start.

You're using sentiments, you want to compare people that are stealing to salary earners....DEY PLAY! A good place to start, una no dey use logic

Okay.
So the thing is, you are talking about the international maket(abroad) now. But one can still buy things comfortably in the local market(Nigeria). But ur main issue is with the international market buying and purchasing. Am i flowing with you?

Nolevel666:


A man earns 30usd a month and intends to buy a book worth 15 usd.

Compare that to a man who earns 100 usd a month.

Even if things are dirt cheap, you still will not be able to purchase anything in the international market.

Take openai chatgpt for example
Or try to take an online course on Udemy or Coursera

The lowest you can find them is 10 USD.

Convert your present Minimum wage to that and see if you can afford any of that in 1 year time assuming you have to pay for your shelter, transport etc

As if this would solve the problem. Nigerians don't want to accept that our currency is weak and the Purchasing Power Parity PPP is low and the only way to make it stronger is to become a productive nation.

Peter Obi losses at the polls is still paining me till now.

abbey621:


You're using sentiments, you want to compare people that are stealing to salary earners....DEY PLAY! A good place to start, una no dey use logic

What is your point. Minimum wage negotiation is on the table and regardless of sentiments Labour should try to get the best out of people you yourself claim are thieves.

Is it the same thieves that you also want to reduce inflation that you think will want to do anything to disrupt their stealing channel.

Na you dey play.

codedguy1:


What is your point. Minimum wage negotiation is on the table and regardless of sentiments Labour should try to get the best out of people you yourself claim are thieves.

Is it the same thieves that you also want to reduce inflation that you think will want to do anything to disrupt their stealing channel.

Na you dey play.

Do you own a company? Have you ever had to pay people's wages and salaries? Do you know that wages and salaries should never be more than a certain percentage of what a company makes?

My point is simple, a 1000% increase is INSANITY, labor can say or do whatever they want, it is up to a responsible government to tell them f*ck off!

abbey621:


Do you own a company? Have you ever had to pay people's wages and salaries? Do you know that wages and salaries should never be more than a certain percentage of what a company makes?

My point is simple, a 1000% increase is INSANITY, labor can say or do whatever they want, it is up to a responsible government to tell them f*ck off!

A 28M to 35M salary for senators and HOR is not insanity.
Buying jeeps worth 160M for themselves is not insanity

Removing subsidy without a plan and increase in electricity tariffs is not insanity. And then floating the naira for whatever reason is not insanity. Coupled with other extravagant irrelevant nonsense they do that we don't know

What Yahaya Bello is being chased about for is probably what most Govs are doing in different ways yet the likes of you would not shout to high heavens that it's insanity.


Where was this energy when all this were done. To now do something that is also INSANITY for the civil servant is now insanity.

It is the activities of these elite, especially those in govt that has brought us where we are today. So if labour wants to take their share, allow them and stop making noise about it being insanity. They most likely wouldn't even get the 615k they are asking for.

The tragedy is that these guys don't have a clue as to how to get us out o f this mess and are will to plunder even more while the masses continue to suffer.

To think that you think this govt is responsible is pitiable.

codedguy1:


Until they do that labour should ask for more.

It's a misplaced priority. I'd rather they bench minimum wage as a percentage of the average salary of our legislators, even if it's beyond the current proposal.
Nobody will take them seriously and they'll be at the weaker end of the bargain until they start doing that

codedguy1:


A 28M to 35M salary for senators and HOR is not insanity.
Buying jeeps worth 160M for themselves is not insanity

Removing subsidy without a plan and increase in electricity tariffs is not insanity. And then floating the naira for whatever reason is not insanity. Coupled with other extravagant irrelevant nonsense they do that we don't know

What Yahaya Bello is being chased about for is probably what most Govs are doing in different ways yet the likes of you would not shout to high heavens that it's insanity.


Where was this energy when all this were done. To now do something that is also INSANITY for the civil servant is now insanity.

It is the activities of these elite, especially those in govt that has brought us where we are today. So if labour wants to take their share, allow them and stop making noise about it being insanity. They most likely wouldn't even get the 615k they are asking for.

The tragedy is that these guys don't have a clue as to how to get us out o f this mess and are will to plunder even more while the masses continue to suffer.

To think that you think this govt is responsible is pitiable.

WHO VOTED THEM IN?