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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by AdisaOwala: 3:45pm On May 02 |
larride:. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by AdisaOwala: 3:45pm On May 02 |
popizaino: Are the cars performing the same function? One can only do short distances due to design limitations while the other would probably travel longer distances, has better fuel economy and would probably generate funds if used as Uber |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 3:50pm On May 02 |
afrodoc2: That's why the government is going to a financing agreement where it is the contractor that will finance 70% of the project and recoup the cost in toll. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 3:55pm On May 02 |
Given scarce resources (at least we all agree on this), is the Lagos-Calabar coastal road of a higher priority than other projects that are yet to get any attention? What's the expected ROI for that project vis-a-vis other projects crying for attention? Can we get same ROI for much less investing in other projects? We have a power sector that's begging for investment...bad roads all around the country that would cut travel time on average by 50%...we need investments in our federal schools, investments in health...what's being done in all of those areas? Nothing...but Oasis wan dey look beach as e dey drive, so make we do coastal road ...we know what we're doing sha. Like Prospa talk, 3 years time we go dey feign shocked. 8 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:56pm On May 02 |
OasisX: Development comes at a cost. Also I am sure those roads were originally built with ample setback. Na so we dey do. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 3:57pm On May 02 |
Itsrm: In situations like this, there's usually a bid bond in place by those bidding before any contractor is given approval/wins the bid. This is usually a major requirement Also, I suppose there will be placeholders (competitors that didn't win) that can step in if that happens. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 3:58pm On May 02 |
Amigoss:We know what we're doing |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:03pm On May 02 |
Theflint1: Some road projects have also been captured here https://www.budgetoffice.gov.ng/index.php/resources/internal-resources/budget-documents/2024-budget ROI is immeasurable at this point, or what was the ROI when 3rd mainland bridge was constructed and the impact on the economy of Lekki-Ajah axis since then The project is 70% private financed, so FG is only paying 30% of total cost. The potential of what the road will achieve and open up new places that had been forgotten for decades makes it worth it |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 4:04pm On May 02 |
larride: Ok. I don’t know the details of this project, but from a distance it looks like a slight misplacement of priorities. Let me step back and allow you guys on both sides of the aisle that have more information debate about it sha 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 4:17pm On May 02 |
The questions I have on the project, Not sure I can get it online. If anyone can help I'll be glad Funding Structure - That huge commitment from a private entity can only mean one thing?? Is it gonna be tolled? what tolling strategy will be adopted Is it a concession and for how long? What protection and guarantee structure is in place if and should there be a change in govt? What are the terms of force majeure in the agreement? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:17pm On May 02 |
afrodoc2: To be fair, I would've preferred the Lagos to Calabar railine instead but if its Lagos to Calabar coastal road we'll get, I'm fine with it. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:20pm On May 02 |
https://projectsportal.afdb.org/dataportal/VProject/show/P-NG-DB0-008 So lekki expressway was originally funded by afdb Lagos Badagry expressway also started as a world Bank funded project |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 4:21pm On May 02 |
TemporaryHansel: That's not how these things work irl. Think about how much debt funding dangote refinery got vis a vis his personal networth. His company has access to various options of financing and they may explore that route |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:22pm On May 02 |
larride: I think the govt may be shying away frim railways for the nearest future because of out of control vandalism. Also because until NRC is privatised any revenue collection will be thoroughly fked up |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:23pm On May 02 |
izzou: GloriousGbola: ......if those houses must go down to widen the road, its good to go. Something must be done on that road I swear. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:23pm On May 02 |
raumdeuter:These places the coastal road is supposed to link are not islands, there are existing bad roads linking all of these places...if I want to do Lagos-Calabar tomorrow, I won't fly jetty or take flight, there's a road that'd take me there. I'm not saying there's no economic value at all to this coastal road, my point is given all other roads and projects screaming for attention, should this coastal road be a priority? Most of the roads that have been mentioned on this thread as we speak are in the state they were when Tinubu seized the presidency, should the coastal road take priority over these projects (scattered across the country) that'd cost less and most likely yield as much if not more value in the medium to long term? ROI is not immeasurable, there's templates and standards the FG can use to compute ROI on the project...I don't want to believe the FG just does projects without first sitting down to consider the economic merit of the project they're undertaking. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:25pm On May 02 |
izzou: That is how narrow lagos Badagry expressway used to be how many lanes did we have at maza maza? Ditto for orile |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:26pm On May 02 |
User09: ......its gonna be tolled and maintained for 20yrs by the Contractor. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:27pm On May 02 |
User09: https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/lagos-calabar-coastal-highway-costs-n4bn-per-kilometre-umahi/%3famp You can read this link. According to Umahi the road will be 10 lanes with a railine in the middle and it will cost 2.8trillion in total. The highway is going to be tolled definitely. No details about the concession from Umahi yet. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:27pm On May 02 |
Theflint1: The real koko of the matter right there |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:28pm On May 02 |
GloriousGbola: It seems they are trying to incorporate the railline into the highway construction. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:29pm On May 02 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On May 02 |
larride: Is there not a rail line in the middle of the road? The works minister, addressing journalists after the council meeting, said the 47.47km dual carriageway has five lanes on each side and a train track in the middle. Umahi explained that it forms part of the 700km road spanning nine states, with two spurs leading up north, noting that the facility will be constructed with concrete. https://punchng.com/just-in-fg-commences-construction-of-700km-lagos-calabar-coastal-road/#google_vignette https://medium.com/@landpropertynigeria/lagos-calabar-coastal-highway-latest-construction-update-on-eleko-axis-1ab8c0a055a6#:~:text=The%20first%20phase%20covers%20a,spurs%20leading%20to%20northern%20states. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 4:30pm On May 02 |
OasisX: 20 years is quite short oo. Means a likely high toll rate/fee. 20 years from the concession date or from the completion date? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 4:30pm On May 02 |
raumdeuter: Yes there is. Just saw that. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:34pm On May 02 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:34pm On May 02 |
GloriousGbola:Okay, Tinubu no seize presidency, he won it fair and square...hope things are now less forked now that I agree he won it fair and square? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:35pm On May 02 |
Theflint1: What was the projected ROI on 3rd mainland bridge during construction? It wasn't like people couldn't get to Lekki and Maroko through the old roads. It wasnt like they were flying to Epe or Ibeju those days I have shown you link where provision were made for other roads |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 4:37pm On May 02 |
User09: Umahi said: “Let me leave out the infrastructure along the corridor. Let me just concentrate on the tolls and I put 50,000 vehicles as an average passage on these toll points per day,” Umahi said on the breakfast show. “I put N3,000 as an average cost. N3,000 because the cars could be like N1,500, and the big trucks could be like N5,000. “So, we put an average. In 15 years, you make back the money,” he said, dismissing calls that the cost budgeted for the road was high. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2024/04/lagos-calabar-coastal-road-outrage-as-fg-proposes-n3000-per-toll-gate/amp/ |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:38pm On May 02 |
Theflint1: Winning fair and square, or seizing power has no correlation with how forked things are I have a hunch that if it was Obi who initiated this project, these same critic will be singing praises of how governance should be 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by User09: 4:41pm On May 02 |
afrodoc2: Yeah, best thing to do honestly. I wish I had enough information and data on it to make an assessment but I dont. The FOI Act is just for decoration in Nigeria |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 4:42pm On May 02 |
User09: "Let me leave out the infrastructure along the corridor. Let me just concentrate on the tolls and I put 50,000 vehicles as an average passage on these toll points per day. “I put ₦3,000 as an average cost. ₦3,000 because the cars could be like ₦1,500, and the big trucks could be like ₦5,000. “So, we put an average. In 15 years, you make back the money. “At every point of tolling, we also have toll station where we have a kind of relief activities — restaurants, filling stations, parking lots, and so on and so forth. So, people will now have confidence. In these sections, we intend to put CCTV all through." - David Umahi [HM for Works] |
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