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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by InvertedHammer: 4:32pm On Apr 27
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Osun M: 131 F:131
Osun M: 127 F:127

Which one we go believe now?

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Dafresh: 4:36pm On Apr 27
Jokerman:
The cut of marks for pupils seeking to get admission into Federal secondary schools recently released shows a disparity in cut off marks.

Why will someone from Anambra need to score as high as 139, and someone in Yobe need to score 2?

Or why will someone in Lagos need to score 133 and another from Kebbi need to score 9 to gain admission??

You stole Simon Ekpa post on Twitter, you brought it to Nairaland
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SonofLagos: 4:45pm On Apr 27
Richtaiwo:

Those are the cows and terrorists pitobi is licking their arsess as we speak. In another thread, he will say igbos don't insult the notherners and they are building bridges.
grin why are you surprised? That’s the hypocrisy of an average flatty we talk about…they think northerners are fools grin

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Riverrun: 4:45pm On Apr 27
Jokerman:
The cut of marks for pupils seeking to get admission into Federal secondary schools recently released shows a disparity in cut off marks.

Why will someone from Anambra need to score as high as 139, and someone in Yobe need to score 2?

Or why will someone in Lagos need to score 133 and another from Kebbi need to score 9 to gain admission??


You just said my mind. This nonsense should stop immediately.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by UnfairLife7(m): 4:47pm On Apr 27
Richtaiwo:

When you finally get your biafra, you can ignore any part that is disadvantaged in any form. But in Nigeria, the national resources can't be concentrated in the training of a singl section who claim they are not even Nigerians. Unity Schools are for the benefit of all Nigerians. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you.
quota system made Nigeria backward and underdeveloped till date
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by adanny01(m): 4:48pm On Apr 27
Jokerman:
The cut of marks for pupils seeking to get admission into Federal secondary schools recently released shows a disparity in cut off marks.

Why will someone from Anambra need to score as high as 139, and someone in Yobe need to score 2?

Or why will someone in Lagos need to score 133 and another from Kebbi need to score 9 to gain admission??


The fact that you don't understand why is not strange.

What is unity school in the first place? It's a school that represents unity i.e one school where you meet people from all parts of Nigeria.

So if every state must be in every unity school, and all states are given the same number of slots, say 20. If 20million students apply from Anambra but only 15 students applied from Yobe, You get the difference in cutoff points. That's means for any student from Anambra has a 1 in million or 0.0001% chance to get admission and a person from Yobe has a 130% chance to get the same admission. The way to apply that percentage is the cut off marks. It's the same reason that the Jamb cutoff for MBBS is higher than Zoology or why your 350 in Jamb from Anambra doesn't automatically qualify you for admission in all Federal universities.

While Anambra students queue up in millions to get a chance to go to a unity school, the slots for people of Yobe is not even filled.

This unfilled slots defeats the aim of unity school. So they want Yobe students to be there, hence the almost zero cut off mark.

You can't say let us then give Anambra all the slots because they have more brains, that means some unity schools will have only Anambra, Imo, Enugu, Ebonyi and Abia state students only. That school now fails as a unity school, it is now a southeast Unity school.

How many Hausa/Fulani do you think will allow his daughter go to a unity school 3 states away? In the north, parents are begged even at this time and age to send children to school.

What do you expect? These things are made with reasons.

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by UnfairLife7(m): 4:49pm On Apr 27
StOla:


I will never support quota system in anything else except the Unity School system.

If you understand that the objective of the unity school is to always have a diverse mixture together and all enjoying subsidised education, then you will appreciate why it is a quota based system.

Otherwise, quota does not allow for the best.

Unity school is not for the best, it is for unity in diversity.

I used to know about some federal government school for the gifted.

That type of school should have no quota system to recruit students of diverse ethnicities, but a single system of recruiting only the exceptionally gifted students, regardless of which part of the country they originate from.
unity school is no longer cheap as it used to before Tinubu government.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SonofLagos: 4:49pm On Apr 27
Enyimbafc:
Peter Obi is only for himself,without been president for decades and also fighting civil war,igbos are waxing stronger like the roaring lion each day.So to hell with the almajiri terrorist cows.
oh really? I don’t think your other blodas see it that way grin anywhere obi goes they follow, even if it mean they have to convert to islam to get to node of there masters up north😂
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 4:52pm On Apr 27
StOla:


I will never support quota system in anything else except the Unity School system.

If you understand that the objective of the unity school is to always have a diverse mixture together and all enjoying subsidised education, then you will appreciate why it is a quota based system.

Otherwise, quota does not allow for the best.

Unity school is not for the best, it is for unity in diversity.

I used to know about some federal government school for the gifted.

That type of school should have no quota system to recruit students of diverse ethnicities, but a single system of recruiting only the exceptionally gifted students, regardless of which part of the country they originate from.

And your idea of unity is to give admission to a student who failed 98 questions out of 100 while denying the one who got 86 questions correctly?

An example of unity is what obtains in the NYSC, where Igbo is posted to Fulani communities and Yoruba to Itsekiri.

Unity schools should operate in that same sense by shipping students to different states to intermingle and develop a broader world view.

This admission quota is pure marginalisation.

I should think the idea of educationally less disadvantaged states should be a long-term project of shaping up the education quota of bereft states to match up with their sharper counterparts.

If after 50 plus years an average student in Kebbi would find it difficult to score up to 50% in general subjects then the system should be scrapped.
It is clearly unworkable.

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by IbeOkehie: 4:54pm On Apr 27
Because Nigeria is a socialist state.

Good Luck to Nigeria
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Enyimbafc: 4:55pm On Apr 27
[quote author=SonofLagos post=129665585]oh really? I don’t think your other blodas see it that way grin anywhere obi goes they follow, even if it mean they have to convert to islam to get to node of there masters up north
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SonofLagos: 4:56pm On Apr 27
Hankim:





You mean we should call black white because someone from my tribe wants to become president? why I'm in the same country with animals like you is what pain me most
shut up, he just pointed out the hypocrisy of dolt. Very soon we see your gbajue messiah attend another event in the north and you will see your shameless blodas eulogising him and according to them, he is building bridges😂 but here you are shamelessly forming like you don’t care…if hypocrisy was a person
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SoNature(m): 4:56pm On Apr 27
StOla:
Straight answer is quota.

Every state has a quota, so whatever it takes to fill that quota versus the scores of the students from that state, is what you see as cut off mark.

No state has cheated another state. All have only fulfilled their respective quotas to benefit from the subsidised education that the federal government is providing to aid their unity objective of those Unity Schools.

It is not by force to attend a unity school which does not even constitute 5% of all the secondary schools in Nigeria.

Unity School system is a post civil war programme of the federal government to engender harmony and unity in Nigerian children.

I did not attend a unity secondary school and I made it in life.


That I did not enjoy the subsidised secondary education provided by Unity Schools, does not mean I did not enjoy the heavily subsidised public tertiary education that Nigeria provided that landed me a job in a multinational firm.

For that, I am grateful and free of student loans my foreign counterparts are paying.

Is your definition of making it in life coming here every day to defend a former druglord with a questionable identity and background? You need help!

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by hotseat: 4:57pm On Apr 27
This is just one area of the numerous anomalies in the Nigerian project!



One country, they say, but different oprressive policies for some.



The system of different policies in cut-off marks was introduced long time ago to address what was termed "educationally disadvantaged states" to enable them catch up with the rest of the country.



However, after so many years, this unpalatable situation has become the birthright of those States.
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Today, someone from Yobe State has more say in the affairs of the country than someone from say Imo State or Delta State after having graduated with a weak cut-off mark because of the skewed system.



This internal apartheid system is discriminatory, oppressive, wicked and against the principles of equity and natural justice.



This has to stop at some point in time!





@hotseat

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Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SoNature(m): 4:59pm On Apr 27
Jokerman:


As usual,no Northerner... But you see them holding top positions in federal offices

Everyone deserves a place in public service. However, the requirements for selecting the best candidate must be high. JAMB result is not enough.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Orch1981: 5:03pm On Apr 27
Richtaiwo:

But some people who claim they are not Nigerians will rather prefer all the slots be allocated to them to the detriment of educationally disadvantaged Nigerian states. Nigeria really dodged a big missile.
You must be a fooooooooool in reality
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by UnfairLife7(m): 5:03pm On Apr 27
obaidan:
This is where the rot in the system starts. While a girl/boy from Imo state cannot go the school after scoring 130 and wanders aroun, and a boy/girl from osun state turns to hawking because his 123 score cannot him admitted, on the same exam the a boy/girl with a score of 5 from zamfara or yobe will get admitted, gets pampered through school and uses the same kind of silly cut-off to get admitted into a University, gets pampered again through Uni, presented with a Bachelors certificate, then the same silly cut-off, now rebranded as Quota/Federal Character will be applied and he will be employed in government agencies, ministries, same quota will elevate him/her till he/she becomes director/perm sec, THEN HE BECOMES MATURED TO WRECK HAVOC ON THE SOCIETY by being useless and having no value to contribute to the growth of the society...Just collecting salary, taking kickbacks from contractors, and changing figures
@stOla this is the perfect summary of where we are as a nation.

Very unfortunate
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by ebuka1511(m): 5:03pm On Apr 27
StOla:
Straight answer is quota.

Every state has a quota, so whatever it takes to fill that quota versus the scores of the students from that state, is what you see as cut off mark.

If you say by quota, then there should be no cut off mark, just imagine all candidates of Rivers state indigenes could not make their cut off marks, will they still be granted admission, having failed to meet the required cut off mark?

No state has cheated another state. All have only fulfilled their respective quotas to benefit from the subsidised education that the federal government is providing to aid their unity objective of those Unity Schools.

It is not by force to attend a unity school which does not even constitute 5% of all the secondary schools in Nigeria.

Unity School system is a post civil war programme of the federal government to engender harmony and unity in Nigerian children.

I did not attend a unity secondary school and I made it in life.

That I did not enjoy the subsidised secondary education provided by Unity Schools, does not mean I did not enjoy the heavily subsidised public tertiary education that Nigeria provided that landed me a job in a multinational firm.

For that, I am grateful and free of student loans my foreign counterparts are paying.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by raumdeuter: 5:04pm On Apr 27
That is because it's a unity school and they want every state to be represented to foster unity

They didn't tell you brilliance is the first criteria

There are other schools whose admission are based on brilliance go to those ones

It's the same way they had affirmative action in the US for minorities
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by adanny01(m): 5:04pm On Apr 27
DIVINEEVIDENCE:


And your idea of unity is to give admission to a student who failed 98 questions out of 100 while denying the one who got 86 questions correctly?

An example of unity is what obtains in the NYSC, where Igbo is posted to Fulani communities and Yoruba to Itsekiri.

Unity schools should operate in that same sense by shipping students to different states to intermingle and develop a broader world view.

This admission quota is pure marginalisation.

I should think the idea of educationally less disadvantaged states should be a long-term project of shaping up the education quota of bereft states to match up with their sharper counterparts.

If after 50 plus years an average student in Kebbi would find it difficult to score up to 50% in general subjects then the system should be scrapped.
It is clearly unworkable.

The idea of unity school is to have people from 36 states and FCT, in one school.

It is not to have 500 students from Anambra and none from Yobe.

The quota is not because Anambra people have brains and Yobe people don't. The problem is Yobe people don't have the zeal or interest based on cultural and religious issues. You have less of them even wanting to go to school not to talk about going to a Unity school far from home.

Do you know that initially, you only go to a unity school totally out of your zone. Now people from Kano are sent to Kaduna. They have even relaxed it to encourage some areas.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Orch1981: 5:05pm On Apr 27
Richtaiwo:

Point of correction, I'm a Nigerian, not biafran. So I wonder how I'm in same country with ipob piiiigs.
And you calling Nigeria a country very funny hahahahaha
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by amazingspiderma: 5:06pm On Apr 27
There is even 2. Wow.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Apr 27
Brendaniel:


Put a uniform cut off for everybody, that way it becomes a competition for all states, imagine the shame a state will have that in the whole state they did not have any student who gained admission....

That will make the governors work on improving educational standard in their states...


Are you trying to say that unity schools don't deserve brilliant students from the north or the north is incapable of producing brilliant students like the south east?

The motive of creating Unity schools is number 1 equal representation of all state

If a class will be made up of 30 students from Benue then it's no longer a Unity school

There are thousands of schools based on academic excellence

You cannot use FG money that belong to all states to promote an institution that doesn't cater to every citizen
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by chukseric504869: 5:09pm On Apr 27
Hankim:





You mean we should call black white because someone from my tribe wants to become president? why I'm in the same country with animals like you is what pain me most
Why are you wasting your time to respond to a person who is justifying his stupidity, foolishness, illiteracy, laziness and many more
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Orch1981: 5:10pm On Apr 27
OnknownSoldier:


States that have the facilities to accommodate more students will definitely have a lower cut-off mark.

The low cut-off in the north is to encourage people to go to school.

So if Lagos has a lower cut off mark compare to Anambra, it means Lagos have the capacity to accommodate more students. Unity schools are state owned. Hope you know?
Another foooooooooooooooool
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Uptheante(m): 5:11pm On Apr 27
AustineE1:
Anambra state and by extension the entire Igbo states are in a world of there own.
Yet most of the best universities in Nigeria are in the South west
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Jokerman(m): 5:12pm On Apr 27
Roger3D:
Oga go and build your own school. Unity schools are for the FG and if you don't like them, enroll your kids elsewhere

Oga, kini meaning educationally disadvantaged school??

You wrote something that we don't understand, why can't you explain what you mean??
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Orch1981: 5:12pm On Apr 27
chiboycue:




May be the IQ of northerners are low that is why their cutoff mark is low as well.
But they have very low IQ
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by HarunaWest(m): 5:12pm On Apr 27
Mindlog:
My eldest sister scored 543 when it was over 600 and Imo state had the highest cut off mark of 527 back then.

She passed the subsequent interview but was not given admission to her first choice of Queens College, Lagos nor her second choice FGC Ijanikin as my parents wanted her to remain in Lagos....dem post am go FGC Sokoto but her classmate from Kaduna who scored less than 450 got admitted into Queens College...my parents said thunder fire Federal Ministry of Education and refused the admission, got my sister enrolled in a day secondary school in Lagos 😂😂😂
When I wrote my common entrance exam, I came 3rd in Alimosho Local Government back then, I actually selected FGC Ijankikan and I was granted the admission, however regimental life called me. I feel your sis was just unfortunate, most of my peeps then got the schools they selected.
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by SoNature(m): 5:12pm On Apr 27
Segzy19:
One can even observe the obvious gender inequality in the cut offs for male vs female in the northern states .... Those guys up north are so backwards and they are seriously slowing down the development of this country. We can't really do much with them leaning on the rest of the country

You people need to understand that we have the worst of us running this country now.

For countries run by reasonable people, they know how to identify people's strengths and deploy them in areas where they can function well.

For instance, Northern Nigeria is doing so well in agriculture. A serious country would have developed that industry so well that we can produce sufficient food to sustain us and export cash crops to the rest of the world.

Doing this will increase our FX earnings, utilize the massive arable lands of the north, build huge ranches in collaboration with the private sector and employ tens of thousands of herders and farmers from the north.

Everyone must NOT excel in academics....

But then, no worries.... people like us are coming...

Let's make enough money to give the thieves running this country now a run for their money first....
Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Ykc2(m): 5:13pm On Apr 27
StOla:
Straight answer is quota.

Every state has a quota, so whatever it takes to fill that quota versus the scores of the students from that state, is what you see as cut off mark.

No state has cheated another state. All have only fulfilled their respective quotas to benefit from the subsidised education that the federal government is providing to aid their unity objective of those Unity Schools.

It is not by force to attend a unity school which does not even constitute 5% of all the secondary schools in Nigeria.

Unity School system is a post civil war programme of the federal government to engender harmony and unity in Nigerian children.

I did not attend a unity secondary school and I made it in life.

That I did not enjoy the subsidised secondary education provided by Unity Schools, does not mean I did not enjoy the heavily subsidised public tertiary education that Nigeria provided that landed me a job in a multinational firm.

For that, I am grateful and free of student loans my foreign counterparts are paying.
what northerners are in disadvantage they will request for quota system to meet up when they are in advantage they will shut every region down just like islam

Re: Why Is There No Uniform Cut Of Marks For Unity Schools In Nigeria? by Junwo: 5:13pm On Apr 27
Jokerman:
The cut of marks for pupils seeking to get admission into Federal secondary schools recently released shows a disparity in cut off marks.

Why will someone from Anambra need to score as high as 139, and someone in Yobe need to score 2?

Or why will someone in Lagos need to score 133 and another from Kebbi need to score 9 to gain admission??

For this life , who pass you pass .

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