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Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by nyabinghi(m): 1:50pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
Christianity has supported violence more than enough times. christ said sell your garments and buy swords. God supported samson in destroying philistines, moses in destroying egyptians, joshua in destroying jericho. george bush went to afghanistan and iraq to propagate xtianity at gun point. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by ow11(m): 2:17pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
Christianity and Islam have a history of violence ( the Bible has tales of unprovoked violence carried out inthe name of God. Christian crusaders also maimed and killed in the middle ages). The sad part is that Muslims in Nigeria are raging lunatics that kill for no reason. How can demolishing a mosque warrant burning of a church? Muslims in the Arab world spread violence for a 'good' reason if you enter their shoes but the Retards in the North just kill christians for the sake of it |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by naijaking1: 2:56pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nyabinghi: You should be ashamed of lying just for the fun of it. Your bible quotations are also a fraud. You're one good reason this type of sensless riots continue in Nigeria. You probably don't understand the economic impact of political instability in any society. This type of barbaric destruction cannot and has not happened in Saudi Arabia, because fools like you would have been beheaded after the first riot. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by willy4: 3:03pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nyabinghi:Look at this Kackroach, So, that's your justification to kill your fellow country men. Una get long way to go inside this Devil country call Nigeria |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by naijaking1: 3:23pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nyabinghi: I hope you're having a field day out there in Bauchi, it's still burning: Bauchi still boils • Shops, worship centres burnt By PAUL ORUDE, Bauchi Thursday, December 13, 2007 Photo: AP Mores Stories on This Section There was palpable fear among residents of Bauchi, the Bauchi State capital on Wednesday morning as rioters continued their onslaught in the Yelwa area burning houses, business outlets and worship centres and attacking innocent citizens. The situation has paralysed economic and social activities in the area, even as fears and anxiety mount over possible spill over of the crisis to other sections of the state capital. Daily Sun correspondent, who visited some of the burnt houses and shops around the Anguwar Kashiu, Yelwa Tudu area amidst tight security, discovered that the level of damage and casualty has continued to increase. The death toll has also risen, amidst fears among citizens that the crisis may extend to flash spots such as Kobi, Bakarau, Yandoka and Wunti. Schools and other institutions around the area have ben forced to close as parents withdrew their wards from schools. Hundreds of people were seen trekking long distances towards the Police Teachers College, Yelwa and the Shadawanka Barracks to seek refuge. Residents are complaining that the government has been slow in curtailing the crisis as they lament their loss in human and materials. Moblie policemen and soldiers were seen patrolling the troubled spots. The attacks are coming even after the state governor, Mallam Isa Yuguda, who cut short his holy trip to Saudi Arabia, visited the affected areas on Tuesday in company of the state Commissioner of Police, Adanaya Gaya, the Brigade Commander of the 33 Artillery Brigade , Major General Ishaya Maigari and the AIG Zone 12, Yusuf Haruna. They were shocked at the level of carnage. Following the civil disturbance, the state government has constituted a 13-man committee of inquiry to find out the remote and immediate causes of the crisis just as the government has appealed for peaceful coexistence among the people of the state. Government said the committee is to find out what led to the crisis, pointing out that anyone linked to the crisis either directly or indirectly will be dealt with in accordance with all the relevant laws of the land. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by graceade(f): 3:34pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
i stay in north ad i know what is their problem they are not bin thought on the disadvantage and advantage of all dis violence in their islamic school dey just tell them dat if dey fight becos of islam dey go the paradise stragiht but if u check their quran well is not true d so called islamic school dey go to is the cause of all dis riot,is what their iman teach dem in the mosque dey believe and also ignorance dey dont go to school.is in d north u will see a 5yr old boy and girl helping pple to content for election i was chance to ask some of the children if dey knew d meaning of what dey are doing dey relied and said no.if just give dem money dat all dey can to kill their christain neigbour for dat. to see d way dey are very wicked during any crises dey even kill youruba muslims, ibira muslims etc dey believe dey are not muslims which is very bad am sorry if dis might sound insulting to some people but the trust is also bitter |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by graceade(f): 3:35pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
sorry i mean d truth is also bitter |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Lola4eva(f): 4:43pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
the truth is that personally i cant reside in the north, i cant even stay in a state that practices sharia. I was raised as a muslim yeah but ive never been taught to kill or maim christians or pple that do not share my religious views. I also do not believe that pple should not be given a second chance (sharia laws), as i said earlier its ur orientation, muslims in the north are extremists and i cant really blame them they believe they are doing what is rite in the name of religion. i cant imagine my father killing me (if that story is true) cos i fail to wear a hijab, i dnt cover my hair or wear the regular kaftans cos my parents understand. However i still believe in God, i try to say my prayers as often as i can, generally do good deeds and live a relatively simple life. If i were to practice my lifestyle in the north and still call myself a muslim, all would instanly call me a sinner and probably maim me, i would be killed as easily as the next christian, reason i dont share their way of life so im not one of them. In all the years that ive lived in the lagos suburb ive never actually seen or heard of a serious conflict caused by religion, reason is because muslims and christians here have learnt how to tolerate each other, muslims can even attend religious universities such as babcock and convenant and still conveniently practice their religion. Someone said ignorance is not a defence, i think it is, these northerners are simply ignorant and the political situation in the country aint helping matters. hem mr davidylan, u didnt answer my question, do ur muslim friends know u cant stand their guts. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 5:18pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
Lola4eva: Where you in lagos in 1993 when a political riot became a religious one? Well, here is the wonderment in it all. The Muslims in the North do not generally consider those in the south as real muslims. I remember some yoruba muslims got killed back then by hausa muslims. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Nobody: 6:15pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nyabinghi: And it was the sword of the Christians that massacred Muslims after the Davinci code and "jesus christ superstar" were released. You are indeed a slave of allah. And his yoke on your brain has cut off your O2 and replaced it with CO2 Ewu alakuba |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by grafikdon: 8:15pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nwando: You dey mind Alhaji Usman Dan Nyabinghi. When he's not calling a spade a flying nama, he'd be busy telling us what Christians did in 19 kpiligidim, or trying so hard to convince us there is no difference between a nama and a heap of saw dust. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 10:13pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
nwando: HEY!!!! If you must know I LOVED Jesus Christ Superstar. I mean it is one of my ALL time favourite movies!!! |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by redsun(m): 12:26am On Dec 14, 2007 |
Of course the bible endorse killing,the first recorded religious intolerance and killing was ordered by moses when he came down from mount sinai with the ten commandments from god and saw his people worshipping the golden calf, he ordered his hench men to kill thousands of his own people in the name of intolerance,even when one of the commandment says,thou shall not kill. Religion is just a continuation of same bullshit of mind and people's control and possessiveness,christianity is a transform judaism,with st paul the main architect,while islam is the alteration of both,,with more of forceful and violent principles,just like the old testament in a new age,almost turning inside out christ principles of human freedom through simplicity and insights,he was able to gain ground though, because at that time christianity just like today have been politicize and bastardize by the romans and rest of aryans,people needed a new uplifting message to adhere to and protect their identity,islam was the answer. So what is our message for today?now that we know the truth,with a push a botton,you can talk to somebody thousands of miles away from you, just like i am communicating with you right now and yet peolpe are still delusional.I wonder what christ will make of today,he said it,out of stone,you can make bread,alchemy. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Wisdomxy(m): 12:36am On Dec 14, 2007 |
confusion for confusion An eye for an eye violence for violence blood for blood I believe it is high time christians organise a terrorist group that could match the global terrorism unleashed upon innocent people in the name of religion(Islam),which is largely an outshoot of the octopus called Al-Qaeda.There is no denying the fact the government knows very well about this before it happens,we have security reports before us.They pretend not to know about it and will move to Abuja on the day it's planned then they suddenly run back when it has started,claiming that they are politically motivated. I guess we should start targeting the leaders of their own people anytime something like highly organised killings occur in the name of religious violence,that is when they will stop this barbaric behaviour. When they know that they can receive in return their action,they will be afraid.They are all coward.Everyone should be ready to defend themselves and to die for his/her faith then we shall many matyrs who will go to heaven. SHALOM |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Nobody: 12:47am On Dec 14, 2007 |
Wisdomxy: I feel your anger too but we will not descend to their blood letting level. I however advocate every southerner in Northern Nigeria carries a loaded pistol hidden somewhere in the house safe from children and must not hesitate to use it for self defence on the slaves of allah as they sing allahu akhbar and advance towards your dwelling place. It's only a retarded man that would walk in on a man sexually assaulting his wife in his own parlour and would not strike first and ask questions later. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 1:13am On Dec 14, 2007 |
redsun: are you sure you are alright?. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by grafikdon: 1:25am On Dec 14, 2007 |
Kobojunkie: Yup, that movie was da bomb! Watched it a million times. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 1:28am On Dec 14, 2007 |
grafikdon: I watched it a millions times myself. Infact, I had the soundtrack on my pc until the last time my hard drive crashed. I plan to purchase Jesus Christ SuperStart and Allo Allo as Xmas gifts for self. Those two are top on my list of all time favourites. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by RichyBlacK(m): 1:34am On Dec 14, 2007 |
redsun: Interesting! |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by RichyBlacK(m): 1:39am On Dec 14, 2007 |
graceade: Very true talk!!! [b] Saudi Arabia, an ally of the United States, is the source of most of this form of extremism - killing so-called infidels and fellow Muslims they perceive as not being true Muslims. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by taofeekcom(m): 12:30pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
well,it is so parthetic this days people just talk about Islam without really understanding the meaning and fundamental of Islam,must people use any slightest opportunity to say bad thinks about Islam,the person at the helms of affair (governor) has said the riot was politically motivated,how can some one from no were now start saying it was an Islamic issue,even lets take for instance,if it were a church that was set ablaze, the noise would have been more that that,but i would advice that it is better we study Islam and not the Muslims ,so that we don't make error when issues like this arose. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by MisterMan(m): 4:42pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
I feel so saddened by this senseless killings. My people, it is however not right to blame Islam for this. You may not know, or you may choose to ignore, Islam is a religion of peace. To me the solution lies in EDUCATION. The people up north need to get real education. Believe me, u will never get an educated northern Muslim to go on rampage. Let me use one or two incidents to illustrate what I am talking about. I lived in Kano for some time. One day, I went to meet a friend of mine in his office. I can't remember what I held but when I entered I put what I held on the his Koran I saw. He did NOT say anything. He did NOT fight with me. He went there and removed the object. This guy is from Kano and a Muslim. Another time I went into inside city with another Hausa friend of mine. Those that know Kano will know what I am talking about. Thank God that I have already left the hot spots. Perhaps if I had stayed 5 minutes later than I left, I would have been caught. This gut started praying on my behalf. What am I saying? This guy would have protected me. He is a very good Muslim. The difference is that they are educated. Education is the answer. Read the glorious Koran. Pple are so misguided about it. Nowhere did it sanction wanton destruction. Let me relate another one. I was not there but the person who told me was there: It was during a riot. A man was caught (he was a Muslim). He said he was a Muslim. He was asked a question (may be to recite a portion or whatever). The man with knife (ready to slaughter) asked another rioter if what the man said was right (u know it would be in Arabic). The man said it was OK. Tell me, if the guy were to have true knowledge of Koran, he would not even contemplate slaughtering a fellow being. Do you know the system of Almajir is the North. Those small kids are being indoctrinated by uneducated imams. The imams know next to nothing about Koran. If you see the way they learn and live. They live like beasts. Why won't they behave like criminals when their imams whip them like hell and they appear so dirty and unfed. Most of you that are talking out of ignorance, if you happened to live like them you will behave like them. Imagine you are hungry, whipped like mad by uneducated imams, sleep outside in the cold and being indoctrinated that if you kill in the name of Islam, you will go to heaven, you will do EXACTLY like those small brutes. Please let's leave sentiments out of this. It is not the fault of Islam if their young adherents are being indoctrinated. Have you ever wondered why our southern Muslims don't behave like that? It is because they have education. They don't sleep in the open and go hungry from morning till night. That is the value of education Though most of you don't have access to Koran. Koran forbids Muslims killing Xtians. Yes, it is the Koran. There are so many things that Some Muslim do that Koran is against. Because some Muslims do it does not detract from the fact the Islam is a religion of peace. Go to Abardie in Kano and see what the so called 'Muslims" do. Those ones do not represent the true Muslims. Even where Muslims wage war against unbeleivers, there are conducts to follow. We choose to follow misguided or wrong views of Islam. I hope I will be able to get last message of the Holy Prophet and post it here. I will leave you to determine if Islam is a religion of peace or not. Peace |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Nobody: 4:58pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
Mister man,we have heard arguments arguments like yours a zillion times but please listen to ours. 1.Why in the world would the Muslims know Almajiris are being indoctrinated by stupid mallams to kill and yet your sharia governments have not arrested or punished a single mallam or shut down those institutions of hate? we are sick of these sorry excuses. We need action if you hope to convince anyone. MisterMan: This is a bald faced lie. The Koran sanctions killing of people who desert Islam or "abuse" the prophet and "desecrate" the Koran. We have read it and witnessed it over and over. Don't come here being untruthful. Sharia from the day of Muhammad have always killed and it's up to individual Muslims to carry out these commands afterall Muhammad did it. MisterMan: If this is the way millions of Koran readers turn,then something is amiss? where do you think the example came from? The world is simply tired of these killers and they are not a small number at all. You tell us these are not true Muslims,we know better. The moderate,peaceful ones are actually an abberation from the message of terror that Muhammad brought. We prefer those ones. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 5:15pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
MisterMan: The examples you posted seem to contradict your initial claim. The instance you gave with the man who had the knife to the other man's neck and released him only when he said he was muslim was really terrible. The story you told of your friend removing the object you place on the quran can be just cause he is a friend of yours. We do not want to hear or read ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE. I believe the world (Christian or secular) is tired of hearing such claims. We keep hearing things like the imams do not know about islam or the quran. You open the book and it is bold in there that they are not wrong and so you can not really debate their belief, as a non-muslim. Those of you who claim you are peaceful always seem to come up with excuses for those who do evil in the name of allah and you practically do nothing else about the situation. We do not want YOU to tell us anything, if you really believe all you wrote up there about those who are not peaceful, being those who lack understanding of the religion, then we implure you that when next you are around them, you CONFRONT them. We need action, not propaganda . |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Pamperme: 6:25pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
Those people still live in the Dark Ages. They are just barbaric. I av some muslim friends here in Lagos and my best friend in school was a muslim but they don't behave like the northern muslims. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by naijaking1: 6:42pm On Dec 14, 2007 |
Speaking about dark ages, this is not 1400s, or 1600s, or even the Dan Fodio jihad against helpless Nigerians at the begining of last century, we are talking about 2007 |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by MisterMan(m): 4:33pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
Pamperme: What makes the difference? Education. The same Koran that our southern Muslims read is the same Koran those there read. The difference is education. That is it. If you see some of the atrocities those young brutes commit. You will be surprised. But then education is what they lack, and at the same time, they are 'mis-educated' when they are brain washed that the more they kill the better Muslims they are. Kano is labelled as Center of Commerce. Most of the commerce actually go on in Sabon-gari, Kano. That is where you can buy tyres, get electricians etc. Electronics market is in the hands of the Igbos. Kano is known for thriving textile market. Here the Lebanese are the undisputed leaders. The Hausas are there to sell fuels in jerry cans, and smoke hemp. Of course in this situation they will be willing hands to cause mayhelm. The problem is NOT the religion. It has more to do with culture. Talking about Dan Fodio's jihad (incidentally today is his birthday; was born on Sunday, 15 December, 1754), It is not as you feel. One again, Islam is a beautiful religion. Peace |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Kobojunkie: 4:44pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
MisterMan: That is BoGUS!! Are you trying to tell me that all the Engineers and the medical doctors who have blown themselves up in the name of Islam were not educated?? You have to try come up with something else please. Even savage africans who still live in the bushes do not behave that way. What sort of education do you think will save them?? When even those who had advanced degrees still commit these crimes |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by Seun(m): 4:52pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
Are you trying to tell me that all the Engineers and the medical doctors who have blown themselves up in the name of Islam were not educated??You can't deny that education helps. Especially in Nigeria. The Nigerians who kill in the name of Allah are all illiterates. Another advantage that southern muslims have is that in their day to day living they are forced to live with Christians. They cannot segregate themselves because they are in the minority. |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by naijaking1: 5:00pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
what difference if educated muslims use uneducated muslims to inflict harm on their fellow country men? |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by toshmann(m): 6:01pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
education is not about going to school and getting a degree only, it is mainly about exposure, enlightenment and civility. it is one thing to be educated but another thing to be civilised |
Re: Religious Riot In Bauchi Over Demolished Mosque by naijaking1: 6:15pm On Dec 15, 2007 |
Blaming lack of education is the same lame excuses used since 1960s to justify these murderous activities. Also, somebody decided that blaming it on politics would shift focus away from the main cause: religion. |
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