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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by thelastPope(m): 5:30pm On Oct 08, 2012
The origin of all Christianity's arguments is born of the attempt by men to understand and interpret God by their brains. There is only one way to understand and interpret God and his ways. The bible. If you follow the bible as it is, you will never derail. Once you add your human logic or you bring in your human motives and ambitions, you derail. It is as simple as that.

What does the bible say? That's the only way to understand it!
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by onlineadejoh(m): 5:31pm On Oct 08, 2012
Stop this blasphemy before the wraths of God descend on you. Read these passages to help you recover from ur ignorance: (1) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7), (2) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Gen 1:26).
Advice for you: The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (Psalm 14:1).

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by EzePromoe: 5:31pm On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel:

Okay.


Can you show me just ONE scripture where GOD , the prophets or Jesus suggested that GOD is 3.

I promise for everyone verse you bring , I will bring 20 verses from the same bible that confirm that GOD is ONE and he is the FATHER, YAHWEH, the owner and giver of LIFE , indeed there is none like him.

He loved us so much that he begat a Son with flesh and blood to save us from our sins and grant unto us eternal life.

God is LOVE.

John 10:30
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:32pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
John 10:30

Sorry , invalid verse.

We are also one with GOD through Christ in the Spirit.

The verse I want is one which says GOD is THREE.

Thanks.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:33pm On Oct 08, 2012
Was it God that died on the cross?
Did God raise God from death?
Is it God that dwells in a believers?


Chrisitians, na confusion and hypocrisy go kill una..

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by vanminister: 5:33pm On Oct 08, 2012
who in his right mind will start this idiotic debate and controversy at this point in time.

it must be coming from a depraved, baselely low intelligence individual!
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by luc26(f): 5:35pm On Oct 08, 2012
Bunch of confused pips!dere r 3 persons in one God namely God d father,God d son and God d holyspirit!all r one and d same.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:36pm On Oct 08, 2012
maclatunji:

So why is the concept sold to the world as Christianity's basic belief?


It's definitely a core Catholic belief and absorbed by many Protestants, but all thru the centuries some Christians have always spoken against it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Trinitarian.
It's known that it's introduction into "Christianity" was in 325 AD in First Council of Nicaea.

The Bible is the authoritative basis of real Christian truths and values, and the Trinity is not a Bible teaching.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:39pm On Oct 08, 2012
onlineadejoh: Stop this blasphemy before the wraths of God descend on you. Read these passages to help you recover from ur ignorance: (1) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7)


Actually this was a bogus addition by the heavily biased Trinitatian scholars who translated parts of the KJV bible.

This does not appear in other versions.


The true meaning can be found in v8 and it goes :


And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.- 1 John 5:8

1. Spirit does the work of rebirth or new birth
2. Water for baptism unto repentance
3. Blood that washes away our sins.




(2) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Gen 1:26).

But this 'US' does not mention how many persons talk less of a specific number of 3. This verse has been confirmed by scholars to mean the angels of GOD.

You seem to also have missed out v27 where it clearly states that GOD alone created MAN in HIS Image.

So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them - Genesis 1:v27.


Advice for you: The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (Psalm 14:1).

There is ONE GOD and only ONE GOD, Amen.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:41pm On Oct 08, 2012
vanminister: who in his right mind will start this idiotic debate and controversy at this point in time.

it must be coming from a depraved, baselely low intelligence individual!

That is exactly what the Pope said before he went on a killing rampage of Christians who rejected the Trinity.

You are in good company.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by thelastPope(m): 5:41pm On Oct 08, 2012
musKeeto: Was it God that died on the cross?
Did God raise God from death?
Is it God that dwells in a believers?


Chrisitians, na confusion and hypocrisy go kill una..

A very fundamental mistake you should never make in life is to assume that whatever you do not understand is false or does not exist
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by hypergig(m): 5:43pm On Oct 08, 2012
The xtian faith thrives on d concept of trinity bt to oda practitioners of d varying religions we've got,there's nuffin of dat such..GOD na GOD.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:44pm On Oct 08, 2012
But TRUE God is Totality of Energy and not deity, so the question does not arise
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Orukky1(m): 5:46pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
The word 'trinity' is a latin derivative which translates to English as 'three in one.' And that's the meaning not three persons, just like your spirit, soul and body.
@ bolded,
That's exactly what trinity is.
Are u tryin to say dat Jesus & d Holy Spirit came out of Jehovah?
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by chucky234(m): 5:47pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
The word 'trinity' is a latin derivative which translates to English as 'three in one.' And that's the meaning not three persons, just like your spirit, soul and body.
@ bolded,
That's exactly what trinity is.
You won my heart,I owe you big time.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:48pm On Oct 08, 2012
onlineadejoh: Stop this blasphemy before the wraths of God descend on you. Read these passages to help you recover from ur ignorance: (1) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7), (2) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Gen 1:26).
Advice for you: The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. (Psalm 14:1).

The part of 1 John 5:7 that you quoted is generally regarded as not part of the Bible - it's missing in older manuscripts so it was likely added by Catholic controled translation to buttress the Trinity doctrine. Most modern Bible translations, rightly remove these text - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

According to the Bible, Jesus existed before being born on earth so the creation account likely referred to him. It does not make him equal to God. It's clear from the Scriptures that Jesus is subordinate to God. There is only one Almighty God.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by EzePromoe: 5:53pm On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel:

Sorry , invalid verse.

We are also one with GOD through Christ in the Spirit.

The verse I want is one which says GOD is THREE.

Thanks.

The Bible teaches us that God operates in 3 forms;
1. As God The Father
( 1 Cor 8:6, etc.)
2. As God the Son( John
1:1, etc.). Here the word is being refered to as Jesus.
3. As The Holy Spirit ( 1 Cor 6:19,
etc.)
Remember Jesus has being in existence before he was born in human form.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by DeGrace01(m): 5:53pm On Oct 08, 2012
Mr OP you are here again to expose your lack on understanding of the scripture, pls deviate from talking about some certain things u dont understand in the bible. TRINITY IS TRUE AND DOES NOT MEAN THAT GOD IS THREE. if you are ready to learn humble yourself let me teach u biblically, but i know due to pride and ignorance you will not. sorry
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:54pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
The Bible teaches us that God operates in 3 forms;
1. As God The Father
( 1 Cor 8:6, etc.)
2. As God the Son( John
1:1, etc.). Here the word is being refered to as Jesus.
3. As The Holy Spirit ( 1 Cor 6:19,
etc.)
Remember Jesus has being in existence before he was born in human form.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum without the full-stop
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 5:55pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
The Bible teaches us that God operates in 3 forms;
1. As God The Father
( 1 Cor 8:6, etc.)
2. As God the Son( John
1:1, etc.). Here the word is being refered to as Jesus.
3. As The Holy Spirit ( 1 Cor 6:19,
etc.)
Remember Jesus has being in existence before he was born in human form.


Show me where GOD the Son is mentioned in the bible, NOWHERE. This is how you guys twist the word of GOD.

What we have is Son of GOD.

Also GOD is Spirit, according to the bible, are you seriously trying to say that GOD has 2 Spirits

When Jesus asked his disciples ' who do you say that I AM ' , did they say GOD or Son of GOD ?

Let us hear from Peter :

"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?" Peter answered, "You are the Christ." -Peter

"John 6:69 We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God." - - Peter

Matthew 16:16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God - Peter


Except my eyes are deceiving me , can you show me where Peter called Christ GOD ?

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by DeGrace01(m): 5:57pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
The Bible teaches us that God operates in 3 forms;
1. As God The Father
( 1 Cor 8:6, etc.)
2. As God the Son( John
1:1, etc.). Here the word is being refered to as Jesus.
3. As The Holy Spirit ( 1 Cor 6:19,
etc.)
Remember Jesus has being in existence before he was born in human form.
THANK YOU MY BROTHER IN ADDITION ASK HIM TO READ MTT. 28vs19.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by EzePromoe: 5:57pm On Oct 08, 2012
O‘rukky:
Are u tryin to say dat Jesus & d Holy Spirit came out of Jehovah?
Stop fooling yourself. Jehovah is the Hebrew name for God. Just as Igbos call him Chineke and Yorubas call him Oluwa.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by albacete(m): 5:57pm On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel:

But me , my soul and spirit equals to ONE Person not THREE , no ?


Trinity implies 3 Persons !

Trinity implies 3 persons in ONE GOD
Eze Promoe:
The word 'trinity' is a latin derivative which translates to English as 'three in one.' And that's the meaning not three persons, just like your spirit, soul and body.
@ bolded,
That's exactly what trinity is.

God bless u my brother!

@ nedostic
U make a whole lotta sense.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by albacete(m): 6:00pm On Oct 08, 2012
stagger: God forbid that I will use the brain of my fellow man to explain his nature. God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are one and the same. That said, the word "Trinity" was never used in the bible and is a man-made word used to describe the tripartite nature of God.

Mr OP, good luck to you on your exposition.

Take 2 Likes from me.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by DeGrace01(m): 6:00pm On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel:


Show me where GOD the Son is mentioned in the bible, NOWHERE. This is how you guys twist the word of GOD.

What we have is Son of GOD.

Also GOD is Spirit, according to the bible, are you seriously trying to say that GOD has 2 Spirits

Read matt.28 vs 19 baptise them in the name of the Father of the Son and the Holy Spirit, probably this is not in your own bible.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by EzePromoe: 6:01pm On Oct 08, 2012
And this I say to all Nairalanders arguing on this issue;
Read [size=32pt]MATTHEW 28:19[/size]

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by lacosanostra: 6:03pm On Oct 08, 2012
Dearest frosbel pls explain 1 Timothy 3:16, dont knw if its too much to ask use the amplified Bible
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 6:04pm On Oct 08, 2012
thelastPope:

A very fundamental mistake you should never make in life is to assume that whatever you do not understand is false or does not exist
I think this advice is for you, LastPoop
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Eklektika(m): 6:04pm On Oct 08, 2012
Trinity was a pagan idea injected in2 Christian doctrine by Emperor Constantine in AD 325. Dis is 1 of d chief cornerstones of d catholic church. Dis doctrine has caused a lot of stumbling. Eg,it has led 2 baptizing in d Name of d Father,Son n Holy Ghost wich is WRONG. Nw listen. GOD is 1 n HE's a Spirit. John 4:24. In order 2 hv fellowship wit Man (who has a spirit 2) as wel as 2 redeem him,HE had 2 com 2 earth n become a Man. So HE cr8d a body 4 HIMSELF n filled d Body wit HIS Spirit. Dat Body is JESUS CHRIST. Wen HE ascended 2 Heaven,HE sent down HIS Spirit 2 continue HIS work. Dat Spirit is d HOLY SPIRIT. So trinity denotes 3 personalities n I make bold 2 say dat it is a WRONG doctrine. Baptism shd b done in d Name of d LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Lord=Father=GOD above us
JESUS=Son=GOD wit us
CHRIST=HOLY GHOST=GOD in us
Christ means d Anointed 1. Who anoints d believer? D Holy Ghost.
Pls check Isaiah 9:6 n Colossians 2:9 also.Ask urself wd d disciples start making mistakes in baptising wrong as recorded in Acts 19:5,Acts 2:38? Dats because they understood dat itsnt trinity but 1 GOD wit 3 distinct masks/offices. Dats y d Jews see Christians as pagans cos they've always known dis,'Hear, O Israel: d LORD our GOD is 1 LORD' (Deut 6:4)
I rest my case!
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 08, 2012
Trinity is false teaching, so that question is wrong in the first place. God consciousness is highest realm known to man. For man to become Spirit and for Spirit to progress to God. No be beans!
As man is, God once was; As God is, man may be !
To become a God, Spirit has to attain perfection and wait on the hierarchy. Since creation, there have been many representatives who became God, and represent Divine Will in the lower worlds, the Title of Godhood is eternal, yet the Personality of Spirit changes with time. God is a perfect crown. As you progress in the God Consciousness, you will come to know the HARD TRUTH. When God said 'Let us make man in our own imagine' Does it mean, He alone didnt make man ? If so, who created them all. 'There is something bigger than God'....and it is not a being...STAY TUNED.

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Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 08, 2012
Eze Promoe:
Stop fooling yourself. Jehovah is the Hebrew name for God. Just as Igbos call him Chineke and Yorubas call him Oluwa.
Chineke is not Yahweh.
Oluwa is not Yahweh.

Yahweh is an Israeli blood sucking demon.
Re: Dilemma : Is GOD a Trinity by Nobody: 6:06pm On Oct 08, 2012
albacete:

Take 2 Likes from me.

Here is what Paul says about your Unkwnowable GOD.

22 Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.

Jesus came to reveal the Father to us , but you will not let others know him or enter the kingdom.

Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent - John 17:3

Let us dissect this simple verse.

1. Jesus speaking, ' this is eternal life , that they may know you
2. the ONLY True GOD
3. And Jesus Christ whom you have sent.


Now if we turn this scripture on it's head and read it with the lenses of a Trinitarian, heres what we have :

God said, Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and GOD, whom you have sent - John 17:3

I hope you know this sounds more like gibberish than common sense.

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