AjanleKoko:

To borrow from Sagamite: You must be a person!!!

Do you know how many times I have visited India in the past couple of years on business?
Nuclear ko, Jagaban ni. You better sit down with this your countryman analysis. Generator boku for India.

Martian:

Who is a "Nigerian"?
Nigeria itself was a bad idea of some old brit and the history of the country doesn't evoke any sense of loyalty so why would someone living relatively comfortable in another country go back and live in a dysfunctional society with pervasive ignorance?

Who wants to return to the ignorance, excessive religiosity and tribalism of Lugard's brain fart?
Most of the people think like slaves anyway.....

esere826: But india was a nation long before the colonial raid, and nigeria was never a nation naw

Which language we for speak in unity? hausa, yoruba abi igbo? ehn, ehn,... what about ijaw?

At least we dey export something. If we export religion and they pay tithes and offering over there, hopefully the money will be remitted back to Nigeria naw

Pakistan wen worse pass nothern nigeria in extremism was cut off from india naw. * docks the largest stone*

And by the way, India corrupt pass Nigeria ooo. U never see anything yet. Their technological advancement was particulaly driven by one or two leaders that found themselves as prime ministers. Im be like how Donald Duke made calabar a tourist haven

eGuerrilla: *clears throat*
Where is the proof to back up your assertion that India is more corrupt than Nigeria.

AjanleKoko:

To borrow from Sagamite: You must be a person!!!

Do you know how many times I have visited India in the past couple of years on business?
Nuclear ko, Jagaban ni. You better sit down with this your countryman analysis. Generator boku for India.

AjanleKoko:

Right from their embassy here in Lagos, all the officials (starting from the Indian dude at the gate, always in slippers). They all beg for money, even threaten you sef. And they have the fewest number of locals out of any embassy I have been to.

Inside India itself . . . ahem. You should google 'zero rupee note'.

Horus:

You forget to provide a solution. You enumarate a list of symptoms but where is your solution?.

solomon111: hahahaha!!
Why are you stealing the guy's thunder nah?
He is probably one of those people that likes comparing Nigeria with other countries without looking clearly at the facts on ground.
Lol.

If you are like him, and dont know what to say or turns blind eyes towards fact you keep quiet, how can you compare Nigeria with India or any member of the BRICs nation, please stop the inferiorty complex, and for once get out of Nigeria, and see the world, am sure you dont even know BRICs..anyway i rest my case...chi.....

AjanleKoko:

Right from their embassy here in Lagos, all the officials (starting from the Indian dude at the gate, always in slippers). They all beg for money, even threaten you sef. And they have the fewest number of locals out of any embassy I have been to.

Inside India itself . . . ahem. You should google 'zero rupee note'.

AjanleKoko:

To borrow from Sagamite: You must be a person!!!

Do you know how many times I have visited India in the past couple of years on business?
Nuclear ko, Jagaban ni. You better sit down with this your countryman analysis. Generator boku for India.

solomon111: I don't see why we should looking up to india.
It should be brazil.
The criminality,insecurity,and corruption is almost three times worse in india.
Besides,the little progress india made, was triggered by their diasporeans,which only goes to show the kind of diasporeans Nigeria have.
This thread is a complete indictement on the Uselessness of the Nigerian diaspora.
A non-pragramatic set of talkatives,and complainers,posing as Nigerian diasporeans.
What a shame.

solomon111: I don't see why we should looking up to india.
It should be brazil.
The criminality,insecurity,and corruption is almost three times worse in india.
Besides,the little progress india made, was triggered by their diasporeans,which only goes to show the kind of diasporeans Nigeria have.
This thread is a complete indictement on the Uselessness of the Nigerian diaspora.
A non-pragramatic set of talkatives,and complainers,posing as Nigerian diasporeans.
What a shame.

thelastPope: People like the @op who put up these kind of articles are very laughable and clueless! These either religion or development concept is very flat and hollow. Why? Because it assumes or infers the following:

1. That countries who prosper and develop do so because they reject religion or because they have no religion.
2. That religion is adverse to development
3. That religion rejects development
4. That Nigerians are bad because they are religious

These are all false and they continuously make people like the @op professional critics instead of problem solvers. It also tells me that most Nigerians do not understand the problem and fundamental dynamics of the Nigerian society. I have explained many times the concept of causes and effects. Many of the reasons people put forward as the causes of Nigeria's problems are actually effects, not causes. But many like the @op are too lazy to research and understand what the actual fundamental causes are.

Religion is not really something that is imported or exported. It is an ingrained part of every human. If you take a new born baby and leave him on an island among wild animals to grow up, when he comes of age, he will create a religion for himself. It is that basic.

Nigeria's problem is that we really have not gone through the basics of social development that most of the world went through. Europe, for example have experienced over 2000 years of social development. They have risen and fallen during these period and learned so much in the process. Asia have had their own phase too. Africa, south of the Sahara, have not really had that. Even over the last century, we have attempted to make a leap from bushmen(pardon the pun) straight into the information age, bypassing as it were, the industrial age! That is why we are struggling so much. Understand that this is both psychologically and physically. There is both a physical and psychological growth process a society goes through when it goes from poster service to steam cars to trains to pinhole cameras to wired phones and so on. We did not experience the industrial age. We did not go through any form of socio cultural renaissance. We didn't have any form of academic institutions that grew or promoted basic ideologies, research or concepts of civilization.

What we are doing now is really learning on the job because in reality, we have already lost that opportunity. We now have to work twice as much to catch up. Unfortunately, we also have a barrage of other vices that are mitigating against us. Primary amongst them is multiplicity of societies. Notice I didn't say multiplicity of languages. It is way more complex than that. South Africa has a multiplicity of languages but not necessarily a multiplicity of societies and social systems. Ghana is another example.

It is pertinent that Nigerians understand the real challenges of Nigeria, not just as a geographical entity, but as a social cultural mismatch!

eduson55: Nigeria exports religion, India exports cars
BY AZUKA ONWUKA

The biggest country in Africa that the United Kingdom colonised is Nigeria. The biggest country that the United Kingdom colonised in Asia is India (which then comprised the present Pakistan and Bangladesh).

When the UK came into Nigeria and India, like all other countries they colonised, they brought along their technology, religion (Christianity), and culture: names, dressing, food, and language, among others. Try as hard as the British did, India rejected the British religion, names, dressing, food, and even language, but they did not reject the British technology. Today, 80.5 per cent of Indians are Hindus; 13.4 per cent Muslims; 2.3 per cent Christians; 1.9 per cent Sikhs; 0.8 per cent Buddhists, among others. Hindi is the official language of the government of India, but English is used extensively in business and administration and has the status of a “subsidiary official language.” Interestingly, it is rare to find an Indian with an English name or dressed in suit.

On the other hand, Nigeria embraced, to a large extent, the British religion, British culture – names, dressing, foods, and language – but, ironically, rejected the British technology. The difference between the Nigerian and the Indian experiences is that while India is proud of its heritage, Nigeria takes little pride in its own heritage, a situation that has affected the nationalism of Nigerians and our development as a nation.

Before the advent of Christianity, the Arabs had brought Islam into Nigeria through the North. Islam also wiped away much of the culture of Northern Nigeria. Today, the North has only Sharia courts but no Customary courts. So from the North to the South of Nigeria, the Western World and the Eastern World have shaped our lives to be like theirs and we have lost much or all of our identity.

Long after the Whites and Arabs left Nigeria, Nigeria has waxed strong in religion to the extent that Nigerians now set up branches of their home-grown churches in Europe, the Americas, Asia and other African countries. Just like the Whites brought the gospel to us, Nigerians now take the gospel back to the Whites. In Islam, we are also very vibrant to the extent that if there is a blasphemous comment against Islam in Denmark or the US, even if there is no violent reaction in Saudi Arabia, the Islamic headquarters of the world, there will be loss of lives and destruction of property in Nigeria. If the United Arab Emirates, a country with 75 per cent Muslims, is erecting the tallest building in the world and encouraging the world to come and invest in its territory by providing a friendly environment, Boko Haram ensures that the economy of the North (and by extension that of Nigeria) is crippled with bombs and bullets unless every Nigerian converts to Boko Haram’s brand of Islam. We are indeed a very religious people.

Meanwhile, as we are building the biggest churches and mosques, the Indians, South Africans, Chinese, Europeans and Americans have taken over our key markets: telecoms, satellite TV, multinationals, banking, oil and gas, automobile, aviation, and hospitality industries among others.

Ironically, despite our exploits in religion, we are a people with little godliness, a people without scruples. It is rare to do business with a Nigerian pastor, deacon, knight, elder, brother, sister, imam, mullah, mallam, alhaji or alhaja without the person laying landmines of bribes and deception on your path. We call it PR, facilitation fee, processing fee, transport money, financial engineering, deal, or whatever. But if it does not change hands, no show. And when it is amassed, we say it is “God’s blessings.” Some people assume that sleaze is a problem of public functionaries, but the private sector seems to be worse than the public sector these days.

One would have assumed that the more churches and mosques that spring up in every nook and cranny of Nigeria, the higher the morals in our society. But it is not so. The situation is that the more religious we get, the baser we become. Our land never knew the type of bloodshed experienced from religious extremists, political desperadoes, ritual killers, armed robbers, kidnappers, internet scammers, university cultists, and lynch mobs. Life has become so cheap and brutish that everyday seems to be a bonanza.

We import petrol even when we have crude oil in abundance. We also import rice and beans that our land can produce in abundance. We even import toothpicks that primary school children can produce with little or no effort. Yet, we drive the best of cars and live in the best of edifices, visit the best places in the world for holidays and use the most expensive electronic and telecoms gadgets. It is now a sign of poverty for a Nigerian to ride a saloon car. Four-wheel drive vehicles are the in thing. Even government officials, who were known to use only Peugeot products as official cars as a sign of modesty, have upgraded to Toyota Prado as official vehicle without any iota of shame, in a country where about 70 per cent live below poverty line. Private jets have become as common as cars. A nation that imports toothpicks and pins flaunts wealth and wallows in ostentation at a time its children are trooping to Ghana, South Africa and the UK for university education and its sick people are running to India for treatment.

India produces automobile and exports it to the world. India’s medical care is second to none, with even Americans and Europeans travelling to the country for medical treatment. India has joined the nuclear powers nations. India has launched a successful mission to the moon. Yet bicycles and tricycles are common sights in India. But in Nigeria, only the wretched of the earth ride bicycles.

I have intentionally chosen to compare Nigeria with India rather than China, South Korea, Brazil, Malaysia, or Singapore, because of the similarities between India and Nigeria. But these countries were not as promising as Nigeria at the time of our independence.

Some would say that our undoing is our size: the 2012 United Nations estimate puts Nigeria’s population at 166,000 million, while India has a population of 1.2 billion. Some would blame it on the multiplicity of ethnic groups: we have 250 ethnic groups, India has more than 2,000. Some would hang it on the diversity in religion: we have two major religions — Christianity and Islam; but India has many. Some would say it is because we are young as an independent nation: we have 52 years of independence; India has 65 years. Apartheid ended in South Africa only in 1994.

I am a Christian, and nothing can change me from Christianity. But I think that our country is daily sinking into religiosity to the detriment of godliness. Our land is sick and needs healing. “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land” is still a saying that is germane to our current situation. We need more godliness than religion; more work and less of hope; and more action and less of words.

Let everyone tidy up his or her corner first and demand fervently that our leaders tidy their areas of governance. Our nation is degenerating at a fast pace and we need to save it now or it may be too late. via PUNCH

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/nigeria-exports-religion-india-exports-cars/

Katsumoto:

First, Tata, Narayana Murthy (Infosys), Mohamed Hasham Premji (Wipro), Shiv Nadar (HCL) who started in his garage, are all India based. Trying to blame the situation in Nigeria on Diasporeans is moronic. I wont even attempt to explain.

Second, Brazil resurgence is fueled by natural resources while India's is fueled by services. Services is the future. You can look at Brazil for better management, reducing inequality and cronyism, and providing social safety net.

Third, India has corruption cronyism capitalism but still light years ahead of Nigeria.

Katsumoto:

First, Tata, Narayana Murthy (Infosys), Mohamed Hasham Premji (Wipro), Shiv Nadar (HCL) who started in his garage, are all India based. Trying to blame the situation in Nigeria on Diasporeans is moronic. I wont even attempt to explain it.

Second, Brazil resurgence is fueled by natural resources while India's is fueled by services. Services is the future. You can look at Brazil for better management, reducing inequality and cronyism, and providing social safety net.

Third, India has corruption cronyism capitalism but still light years ahead of Nigeria.

yinchar:
Shtaaaap!....You think God will come down and help U, thats our problem in this country, we attach everything to God, a student that fails and exam will shout GOD! why me...whereas when his mates are working hard hes playing, and besides God does not have anything to do with evil, most Nigerians are evil, even some religious people, you cant trust them with anything, India is a country you will find a mosque beside a shrine and they live in peace and harmony and they love their country to the heart, our leaders has failed us, we are 100yrs behind our peers, and since you vowed never to speak ill for your country, its people like you that makes this country worst to this extent, when good people keeps quiet & does nothing, its an invitation for bad people to thrive....ITS TIME TO SPEAK UP....either with revolution or whatever and lets our voice be heard.

afam4eva: I agree with the OP 100%. What can be best used to describe Nigeria is "The more you look the less you see".

But one thing i think the OP got wrong is in the area of ethnicity. While i know that India has more ethnic groups than Nigeria, the groups are not of equal size as we have in Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba. In India, the majority group is the Hindis with over 70% of the population. Hindi is like an official language in India as it's spoken by even people who are not Hindus. So, this gives little room for conflicts. But a situation where you have 3 major ethnic groups who have refused to bow to each other but are constantly fighting to assume the leadership role, there's bound to be trouble. Infact, i've never some across any country with a similar ethnic composition as Nigeria that has made it. Prove me wrong.

Jyde89: pls tell me sir what step's have you taking in ensuring that Nigeria leave's this hell hole? Or are you still just shouting and complaining about the state of the affair's of this nation?, you said in your post that most Nigerian's are evil; how do you no that if you your self are not evil, and when i said i wont speak ill of my country; i meant that i will not keep on over floging obvious issue's instead of finding lasting solution's to them, and if you dont think we need a divine help in our struggle toward's liberation from our fellow country men then you'er alot more stu*pid than i thought.

Martian:

#1. Complete overhaul of the educational system. I know it won't happen but using the oil surplus of the past few years for infrastructure and education is one little step in the right direction. The younger generations need to be adequately educated before they grow up and start to sound like the people on Nairaland.

solomon111: The same way we have the dangotes,the glos,the innosons,the zenon e.t.c.
What Nigeria needs now is proactive change,which can only be possible by the active and effective involvement of diasporeans.
Bio-fuel will always be useful atleast in the next fifty years,so i don't see why we cannot create an accelerated development based on bio-fuel,afterall that is why dubai,kuwait,and co are excelling.
India do not have any natural resource that i know of,so i think that could play a part in their adoption of a service economy.

eduson55: Nigeria exports religion, India exports cars
BY AZUKA ONWUKA

The biggest country in Africa that the United Kingdom colonised is Nigeria. The biggest country that the United Kingdom colonised in Asia is India (which then comprised the present Pakistan and Bangladesh).

When the UK came into Nigeria and India, like all other countries they colonised, they brought along their technology, religion (Christianity), and culture: names, dressing, food, and language, among others. Try as hard as the British did, India rejected the British religion, names, dressing, food, and even language, but they did not reject the British technology. Today, 80.5 per cent of Indians are Hindus; 13.4 per cent Muslims; 2.3 per cent Christians; 1.9 per cent Sikhs; 0.8 per cent Buddhists, among others. Hindi is the official language of the government of India, but English is used extensively in business and administration and has the status of a “subsidiary official language.” Interestingly, it is rare to find an Indian with an English name or dressed in suit.

On the other hand, Nigeria embraced, to a large extent, the British religion, British culture – names, dressing, foods, and language – but, ironically, rejected the British technology. The difference between the Nigerian and the Indian experiences is that while India is proud of its heritage, Nigeria takes little pride in its own heritage, a situation that has affected the nationalism of Nigerians and our development as a nation.

Before the advent of Christianity, the Arabs had brought Islam into Nigeria through the North. Islam also wiped away much of the culture of Northern Nigeria. Today, the North has only Sharia courts but no Customary courts. So from the North to the South of Nigeria, the Western World and the Eastern World have shaped our lives to be like theirs and we have lost much or all of our identity.

Long after the Whites and Arabs left Nigeria, Nigeria has waxed strong in religion to the extent that Nigerians now set up branches of their home-grown churches in Europe, the Americas, Asia and other African countries. Just like the Whites brought the gospel to us, Nigerians now take the gospel back to the Whites. In Islam, we are also very vibrant to the extent that if there is a blasphemous comment against Islam in Denmark or the US, even if there is no violent reaction in Saudi Arabia, the Islamic headquarters of the world, there will be loss of lives and destruction of property in Nigeria. If the United Arab Emirates, a country with 75 per cent Muslims, is erecting the tallest building in the world and encouraging the world to come and invest in its territory by providing a friendly environment, Boko Haram ensures that the economy of the North (and by extension that of Nigeria) is crippled with bombs and bullets unless every Nigerian converts to Boko Haram’s brand of Islam. We are indeed a very religious people.

Meanwhile, as we are building the biggest churches and mosques, the Indians, South Africans, Chinese, Europeans and Americans have taken over our key markets: telecoms, satellite TV, multinationals, banking, oil and gas, automobile, aviation, and hospitality industries among others.

Ironically, despite our exploits in religion, we are a people with little godliness, a people without scruples. It is rare to do business with a Nigerian pastor, deacon, knight, elder, brother, sister, imam, mullah, mallam, alhaji or alhaja without the person laying landmines of bribes and deception on your path. We call it PR, facilitation fee, processing fee, transport money, financial engineering, deal, or whatever. But if it does not change hands, no show. And when it is amassed, we say it is “God’s blessings.” Some people assume that sleaze is a problem of public functionaries, but the private sector seems to be worse than the public sector these days.

One would have assumed that the more churches and mosques that spring up in every nook and cranny of Nigeria, the higher the morals in our society. But it is not so. The situation is that the more religious we get, the baser we become. Our land never knew the type of bloodshed experienced from religious extremists, political desperadoes, ritual killers, armed robbers, kidnappers, internet scammers, university cultists, and lynch mobs. Life has become so cheap and brutish that everyday seems to be a bonanza.

We import petrol even when we have crude oil in abundance. We also import rice and beans that our land can produce in abundance. We even import toothpicks that primary school children can produce with little or no effort. Yet, we drive the best of cars and live in the best of edifices, visit the best places in the world for holidays and use the most expensive electronic and telecoms gadgets. It is now a sign of poverty for a Nigerian to ride a saloon car. Four-wheel drive vehicles are the in thing. Even government officials, who were known to use only Peugeot products as official cars as a sign of modesty, have upgraded to Toyota Prado as official vehicle without any iota of shame, in a country where about 70 per cent live below poverty line. Private jets have become as common as cars. A nation that imports toothpicks and pins flaunts wealth and wallows in ostentation at a time its children are trooping to Ghana, South Africa and the UK for university education and its sick people are running to India for treatment.

India produces automobile and exports it to the world. India’s medical care is second to none, with even Americans and Europeans travelling to the country for medical treatment. India has joined the nuclear powers nations. India has launched a successful mission to the moon. Yet bicycles and tricycles are common sights in India. But in Nigeria, only the wretched of the earth ride bicycles.

I have intentionally chosen to compare Nigeria with India rather than China, South Korea, Brazil, Malaysia, or Singapore, because of the similarities between India and Nigeria. But these countries were not as promising as Nigeria at the time of our independence.

Some would say that our undoing is our size: the 2012 United Nations estimate puts Nigeria’s population at 166,000 million, while India has a population of 1.2 billion. Some would blame it on the multiplicity of ethnic groups: we have 250 ethnic groups, India has more than 2,000. Some would hang it on the diversity in religion: we have two major religions — Christianity and Islam; but India has many. Some would say it is because we are young as an independent nation: we have 52 years of independence; India has 65 years. Apartheid ended in South Africa only in 1994.

I am a Christian, and nothing can change me from Christianity. But I think that our country is daily sinking into religiosity to the detriment of godliness. Our land is sick and needs healing. “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land” is still a saying that is germane to our current situation. We need more godliness than religion; more work and less of hope; and more action and less of words.

Let everyone tidy up his or her corner first and demand fervently that our leaders tidy their areas of governance. Our nation is degenerating at a fast pace and we need to save it now or it may be too late. via PUNCH

http://www.punchng.com/opinion/nigeria-exports-religion-india-exports-cars/

bbpreye.:


One day the poor will have nothing to eat but the rich!

plaetton:

It would help to remove religion from the primary and junior secondary school curriculum, and make it only an option in senior secondary school in the form of comparative religious studies, where every major religion is equally studied.