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| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by NosaHenry(m): 3:50am On Nov 04, 2012 |
By my last recon many universities especially private ones are looking for PhD holders at least to meet NUC requirement. The fact is there are PhD and there are PhD. Maybe theirs is in BH studies. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by olapluto(m): 3:54am On Nov 04, 2012 |
obadiah777: BRAH ? I ALREADY BACKED UP MY STATEMENT BUT YOU JUST DONT AGREE WITH IT. I HAVE PROVIDED VIDEOS OF PHD HOLDERS IN AMERICA WHO ARE HOMELESS AND UNEMPLOYED AND THE SOCIETAL INCLINATIONS OF THE BRITISH TO ONLY WANT EXPERIENCED PEOPLE IN OVER 90 PERCENT OF THEIR JOBS AS OPPOSED TO ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE. THE EVIDENCE IS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE. PHD IS ONLY REGARDED IN NIGERIA AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE FROM ALL MY TRAVELS. CANADA, AUSTRALIA AND BRITAIN IS ESPECIALLY NOTORIOUS FOR SHUNNING PHDS. AMERICA ? LOTS OF PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES SO YOU CAN GET IN. IT IS WHAT IT IS, PHDS IS LIKE THE DINOSAUR. A RELIC OF THE PAST.Below is a recent job posted. Job based in England. Senior Synthetic Chemist Oxfordshire, UK Very Competitive package (D.o.E.) Our client is an expanding research company specialising in silicon technologies for the development of lithium-ion batteries. As a Senior Synthetic Chemist the role is primarily laboratory based working on the development and improvement of silicon anode material. The successful applicant will take a key role in research projects from initiation through to execution. You will be responsible for the synthesis of materials through different reaction strategies to optimise yield and structure. Examine how synthesis impacts on material properties and structure, and the ultimate effect of battery cell performance. Suitable applicants must have: - PhD (or equivalent industry experience) in Chemistry, Inorganic Chemistry or Metallurgy. - Previous industry experience in a synthetic chemist role in the research of silicon anode materials - Material expertise and experience with silicon and metal assisted chemical etching is desirable - Proven project management experience and able to demonstrate the ability to manage tight deadlines and successfully achieve project milestones. In return, my client offers the opportunity to join an expanding research company and a competitive remuneration package based on experience. Interested? Apply online now by pressing the 'Apply now' button or contact PULSE Scientific on 01235 861732 |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 3:57am On Nov 04, 2012 |
ola_pluto:PHD OR EXPERIENCE ? DOES THAT TELL YOU HOW THE PHD IS REGARDED ? A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT WITH MORE EXPERIENCE WILL GET THE JOB OVER THE PHD GUY. THANKS FOR SOLIDIFYING MY POINT 1 Like |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by yemmight(m): 3:59am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Obiagu1: Oponu re. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 4:10am On Nov 04, 2012 |
obadiah777: BRAH ? I ALREADY BACKED UP MY STATEMENT BUT YOU JUST DONT AGREE WITH IT. I HAVE PROVIDED VIDEOS OF PHD HOLDERS IN AMERICA WHO ARE HOMELESS AND UNEMPLOYED AND THE SOCIETAL INCLINATIONS OF THE BRITISH TO ONLY WANT EXPERIENCED PEOPLE IN OVER 90 PERCENT OF THEIR JOBS AS OPPOSED TO ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE. THE EVIDENCE IS STARING YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE. PHD IS ONLY REGARDED IN NIGERIA AS FAR AS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SEE FROM ALL MY TRAVELS. CANADA, AUSTRALIA AND BRITAIN IS ESPECIALLY NOTORIOUS FOR SHUNNING PHDS. AMERICA ? LOTS OF PRIVATE UNIVERSITIES SO YOU CAN GET IN. IT IS WHAT IT IS, PHDS IS LIKE THE DINOSAUR. A RELIC OF THE PAST. There is a difference between an opinion and a fact. I might not necessarily agree with your opinion, but there is nothing I can do than to accept a fact as a fact. Don't equate facts with opinions, they are different. You are advancing your opinion as a fact, that's not correct. Presenting a video of some folks complaining bitterly of how life is treating them badly can not justify your assertion: phd is for losers who cant think for themselves. FACT It does not make your opinion a fact. You have not even demonstrated that holding a PhD degree is responsible for their mess. The nexus is missing from your presentation. If Britain ( though you have not supplied any evidence to back this up) prefers experience, what then happens to PhD holders with experience? "CANADA, AUSTRALIA AND BRITAIN IS ESPECIALLY NOTORIOUS FOR SHUNNING PHDS. AMERICA ?" I laughed really hard. Canada is even looking for all manners of people to come and take up residency. You even earn more points having higher qualifications in their immigration process. If PhD is for folks who can't think and America shuns it as you have opined, enrollment rate should have decreased substantially. Shouldn't some schools have closed their graduate schools in tandem with declining appreciation of the degree? You know next to nothing about PhD. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Obiagu1(m): 4:16am On Nov 04, 2012 |
What does one need a phd for? Are you planning to become a researcher or a higher institution teacher? If not, you don't need a phd, not even a masters else it will become a millstone round your neck when you start looking for jobs. Over qualified and under experienced is a real problem, beware! |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 4:20am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Obiagu1: What does one need a phd for? Are you planning to become a researcher or a higher institution teacher? |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 4:25am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Prof Corruption:>>>>> PHDS ALL DRIVING TAXICABS IN CANADA http://www.settlement.org/discuss/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5453 |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by tpia1: 4:27am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Phds are generally good for academia. In any case, as per MBAs, i learnt even as an undergraduate,that MBAs still need a lot of connections before you can get a commensurate job with that title. And this was even in nigeria, talkless overseas. The person who told me this was a happening babe from lagos who was herself planning on getting one. She already had an impressive job with some big corporation. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 4:38am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Obiagu1: What does one need a phd for? Are you planning to become a researcher or a higher institution teacher? Getting a PhD can give you a head start above your peers in life. You just have to be strategic about it. Let's examine three scenarios: 1. Candidate A has three years job experience in brewing sector. He left for doctoral studies and major in brewing as a discipline. Upon graduation, can it be difficult for such a candidate to get a job in brewing? Candidate A becomes a hot cake in brewing job market. Technical depth plus experience. 2. Candidate B does not have a job. He plans to embark on doctoral studies to enhance his chances of getting a job. He focuses on something new, exclusively new in his field and accumulate a wealth of knowledge during his graduate studies. Can such a candidate be struggling in landing a job in that field? Who does not appreciate a technical depth in a new area? 3.Candidate C combines two key courses: majoring in Economics at undergraduate and then focusing on computer science at postgraduate level. In other words, building an interdisciplinarity right within you? Companies usually look for folks who can appreciate a problem from two expertise dimensions. Such a candidate can never apply to drive a truck except if he truly want to do so. Does that mean every PhD is a sure banker? No not at all. If you get a PhD in a course that's not needed, you ll not be appreciated. For instance, getting a PhD in classic or Latin in this era is nothing but a near waste of effort. Two, where you get the degree matters a lot. The reputation of your advisor, the school and the history of past students in such a group can be a pointer to your future. But Obadiah777 statement to the effect that: phd is for losers who cant think for themselves. FACT is nothing short of a lie, illogical lie for that matter. 3 Likes |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Obiagu1(m): 5:19am On Nov 04, 2012 |
^^^ PhD does not give anyone any advantage. PhD is purely for researchers. If your field does not involve research,then phd is useless. Your employability depends on 2 criteria: education and experience. Fresh graduates are usually considered with their education and with phd? man goodluck! First degree is what counts.(criteria: fresh graduates). The second criteria is experience. 10 years working experience with no phd puts you ahead of someone with 5 years experience and 5 years of study at doctorate level (same 10 years). What does that tell you? Why waste your time getting a phd and losing earnings while getting one? Many phd holders now don't even put it on their resume if they don't have sufficient western experience and some are even going back to get a quick first degree from the country they want to settle. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Obiagu1(m): 5:25am On Nov 04, 2012 |
I'll add that you can get your masters or PhD while working just purely to improve yourself and not to enhance your employability. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 5:46am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Obiagu1: I'll add that you can get your masters or PhD while working just purely to improve yourself and not to enhance your employability. I am mobile and driving. You can't get PhD while working.. it's not a joke . I ll respond when I am free |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by ghettodreamz(m): 6:11am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Nairalanding lori driving.. Oga, take am easy oooooo..  |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Obiagu1(m): 6:13am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: Are you kidding  |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by ghettodreamz(m): 6:14am On Nov 04, 2012 |
This is not news to me,I've seen Master degree holders riding okada and even some work at the gate post of banks, so what else do we expect in Nigeria? Getting school certificates don't cut it anymore, just go there for learning sake and work on yourself; Skills acquisition Be creative and ready for any good opportunity that may come your way. Your sure bet, is being your own boss. Never despise little beginning, Rome wasn't built in a day, start from little/low level and grow up. IT's WELL my country people! |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 7:24am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Mr. Globe:we are still the gaints,but a new type'sometin i would like to call, a mad gaint. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Johnnyemy: 7:25am On Nov 04, 2012 |
This is a false story published by dangote HR, No PhD holder applied for that trucking job. This is just a cooked story to add to dangote group firmness. 1 Like |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 8:34am On Nov 04, 2012 |
obadiah777: nothing to do with your country. the phd holder is the problem. he cant apply his knowledge to create business ? wtf ? africans sef. no critical thinking. na just to read and regurgitate and then look for job"apply your knowledge to create business" is easier said than done. No job means no money. How does one with no money create a reasonable business? Or do you want him to start selling sliced paw-paw in the market? |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by omoijoba1: 8:36am On Nov 04, 2012 |
I see nothing wrong with PhD and Master's degree holders applying as truck drivers having failed to secure more befitting jobs else where. The major problem the believe that these degrees should automatically place us in an airconditioned office, give us cars salaries even if we don't have the idea of what it means to create wealth. As stated by Dangote himself, this job promises to be a mean of wealth creation and entrepreneurship development, I advise any youth with a vision to go for it even if you have degrees more than thermometer. Because at the end it will be how well not how far. If I may add, how many people remember the qualifications of the likes of Mike Adenuga, Femi Otedola and Dangote himself? A word is enough for the wise. 1 Like |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Danielh(m): 8:51am On Nov 04, 2012 |
this is so sad,,  |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by mkoabiola: 9:02am On Nov 04, 2012 |
By d time hunger waya u ,u wil 4get dat av all d professional degrees. Man knw man is d current trend in nja. Who cares even if u av docotorate degree or 1st class,all u need is to av food on ur table.if not u will knw dat hungry kil faster dan Aids. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by newmaonza: 9:17am On Nov 04, 2012 |
obadiah777: phd is a waste of time. all the innovators in this world are college dropouts. most phd holders are block-heads. thats why they hid in academia for so long. too scared to tackle the real world Stop Talking out of Pain....It does you no Good  |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by dejiswaggs(m): 9:19am On Nov 04, 2012 |
ghettodreamz: This is not news to me,I've seen Master degree holders riding okada and even some work at the gate post of banks, so what else do we expect in Nigeria?You are well on point man! |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by kayjegs: 9:20am On Nov 04, 2012 |
obadiah777: KEEP ON LIVING IN DENIAL BRAH. YOU KNOW DAMN WELL YOU DONT WORK IN NO COMPANY WITH PHDS IN BRITAIN. THATS LIES. BRITAIN IS A COUNTRY THAT IS NOTORIOUSLY BUILT ON EXPERIENCE. EVEN HAVING A MSC IN BRITAIN IS OVER QUALIFIED IN 90 PERCENT OF THE JOBS IN THE COUNTRY. YOU BETTER COME CORRECT AND STOP LYING TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL BETTER BRAH Did you say you lived in the West for 8 years and you are talking like this? Mind you, the College drop out entrepreneurs or inventors you talked about Bill Gates et al. They dont employ college drop outs. Go and check your facts right. For these few college drop outs that made it, there are millions of those that dont stand any chance. I think the google guys are graduates and even PhD holders. So..... |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by dejiswaggs(m): 9:21am On Nov 04, 2012 |
new maonza:Sir there is an atom of truth in what he said... |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by kayjegs: 9:23am On Nov 04, 2012 |
Prof Corruption: YOU HAVE SAID IT ALL.... ON POINT! |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by newmaonza: 9:31am On Nov 04, 2012 |
dejiswaggs: True, but Trust Me No HR will employ a PHD holder for a Truck Driver Position, Such persons are already Deluded & will cause the organization more Harm...... Why waste your time doing a PHD even if it is copying notes for Under-Grads as in "Nigeria" come out and apply for a truck Driving position,,,, " Just selling Hand-outs alone has covered what Dangote wanna Pay You" Abeg letz wisen up jor |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 9:43am On Nov 04, 2012 |
kayjegs: PhD holders actually drive cabs in developed countries but they are likely new immigrants that took the job for survival till they get a better job. A Briton with PhD degree would rather stay at home and collect handouts from the government instead of working as a truck driver. And I can't really blame the holders, PhD doesnt equate to entrepreneurship. The university environment is scholartic. Most uni teach nothing bout entrepreneurship. The issue of unavailable capital is also important. 1 Like |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 04, 2012 |
kayjegs: ROSSIKE: PhD holders actually drive cabs in developed countries but they are likely new immigrants that took the job for survival till they get a better job. A Briton with PhD degree would rather stay at home and collect handouts from the government instead of working as a truck driver. And I can't really blame the holders, PhD doesnt equate to entrepreneurship. The university environment is scholartic. Most uni teach nothing bout entrepreneurship. The issue of unavailable capital is also important. |
| Re: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by kkkossy(m): 10:08am On Nov 04, 2012 |
I suspect those phd holders are retired lecturers or govt workers, maybe they just want to get something doing. I doubt if they are young phd holders. |
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