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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by SalC: 5:26pm On Jul 07, 2014
dagr8:
it means Clapping My Hand cheesy
Ok sad
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by SalC: 5:32pm On Jul 07, 2014
dagr8:
Thank God it went well smiley
...but your punishment is, the story wont come till when am appeased tongue

Yeah thank God

Am not surprise cos there was no story in the first place tongue your determination to get an answer then lead to the 'lie' you told tongue anyway I believe I was able to give you a clear answer and now I won't have to be asked that question every now and then wink
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by yetseyi(f): 6:04pm On Jul 07, 2014
ihedinobi2: Hi guys smiley

So
ihedinobi2:
Before the Nairalandquake that destroyed many of the buildings here, there was a thread about a married woman who had a dream she once tried to pursue but which her husband objected to. The first time she listened to his nay-saying about how it was too big and whatnot and how she should not pursue it. Later she saw opportunities to actualize the dream and took necessary steps, linking up to dignitaries who bought into the idea and funding was all over the place. Still the hubby stood staunchly against it and her marriage became difficult.
Imagine that this is a Christian marriage, that is, both man and wife are believers. What would you advise?
sorry I left things unattended for so long. It couldn't be helped just then. I'm back now and we'll pick up where we stopped.

I understand that we don't see much to discuss in the economic rights of women. How about we look at through the Nairaland lens?

If you hang out at the Family Section just a little bit you'll find a few discussions focused on who should provide what, on how bills are shared, on inequality of economic opportunities between the two genders etc. These things are the sort of things I hoped we would examine.

Should a married woman work if and at whatever she wants? Does her husband have any right to dictate her career movements? How to reconcile the role of motherhood and the role of career woman? Bill-sharing? And, something we already touched on, how to protect women from economic exploitation when they have no man?

Could we work on those questions from now till Tuesday? Throw in any more you want.

smiley



since no one has said anything about this let me start.

i am going to analyse this from the broader view:

A lot of guys actually do not want their wives to be more sucessful than they are. If there is any way it is going to happen they would most likely cut it off. But its supposed to be that success for one spouse means sucess for the other.
Some do not want their women to have financial independence
Some feel bad if their wife is a bit ambitious e.g she wants to go for a masters and maybe he still has his first degree

If you look down to the reason why husbands try to prevent their wives from being sucessful its quite a lot from selfishness to insecurity to ego .

But then there are guys that would support their girl/fiancee/wife to whatever level they want wink
lemme stop at that
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by SalC: 6:16pm On Jul 07, 2014
dagr8: ujsizzle, salc, mynd44 grin.....enjoy your modified monikers tongue
embarassed
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Bloomingbud(f): 7:45pm On Jul 07, 2014
@ Ihedinobi. I'll say its the sole responsibility of a man to provide and take care of his home but a woman can always assist. Thats why we are helpmeet.

By the way, I like this thread.

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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 8:04pm On Jul 07, 2014
Bloomingbud: @ Ihedinobi. I'll say its the sole responsibility of a man to provide and take care of his home but a woman can always assist. Thats why we are helpmeet.

By the way, I like this thread.
I like your profile picture. Hot and sexy......you are awesomely beautiful cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mintayo(m): 8:20pm On Jul 07, 2014
yetseyi:
since no one has said anything about this let me start.

i am going to analyse this from the broader view:

A lot of guys actually do not want their wives to be more sucessful than they are. If there is any way it is going to happen they would most likely cut it off. But its supposed to be that success for one spouse means sucess for the other.
Some do not want their women to have financial independence
Some feel bad if their wife is a bit ambitious e.g she wants to go for a masters and maybe he still has his first degree

If you look down to the reason why husbands try to prevent their wives from being sucessful its quite a lot from selfishness to insecurity to ego .

But then there are guys that would support their girl/fiancee/wife to whatever level they want wink
lemme stop at that
Do you actually know that there are some women who does not want their husband to be more successful than them? I have seen two,if not three.
Let me too stop here firstwinksmiley
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:22pm On Jul 07, 2014
SalC: Yeah thank God

Am not surprise cos there was no story in the first place tongue your determination to get an answer then lead to the 'lie' you told tongue anyway I believe I was able to give you a clear answer and now I won't have to be asked that question every now and then wink
grin tongue
there was actually a story smiley
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:27pm On Jul 07, 2014
Mynd44:
I like your profile picture. Hot and sexy......you are awesomely beautiful cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Is that your Job undecided
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mintayo(m): 8:30pm On Jul 07, 2014
dagr8:
Is that your Job undecided
Dnt mind him. The guy don send the girl away sef.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:37pm On Jul 07, 2014
@Yetseyi, if you find yourself in that story, what would you do?
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by An0nimus: 9:23pm On Jul 07, 2014
If I was in the mans shoes I'll support my wife. Except this dream of hers looks fishy or comes with some perks I don't fancy.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by yetseyi(f): 10:29pm On Jul 07, 2014
Mintayo:
Do you actually know that there are some women who does not want their husband to be more successful than them? I have seen two,if not three.
Let me too stop here firstwinksmiley

really why on earth would a woman not want hussy to be more sucessful
Like I said earlier sebi @ are now one flesh


Hubbys sucess is wifeys sucess
Wifeys sucess is husby sucess

The moment the individual doesnt see things this way then na real wa

I dunno sha but people see things differently.
I thought 2 should become 1


dagr8: @Yetseyi, if you find yourself in that story, what would you do?

hmmm embarassed

well its always easy to say this is what I will do when you re not in the situation so Da gr8 I may wont answer that question
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by texanomaly(f): 11:11pm On Jul 07, 2014
First of all

@ Mynd

SMDH *rolls eyes* undecided


@topic
If we are going to look at it from a biblical perspective yetsyi you've got it right. We are a help meet. Men are taught that they are the head of the household. In that way it is a matter of pride. I do not think pride is necessarily a bad thing here. I've said it before. Most men consider it their duty to take care of their wife and children. It is difficult to consider yourself a provider if your wife makes more than you. I'm not a man so I can't be absolutely sure about that. In a Bible reading society the man is the head. It is not healthy for him, or for the family as a unit, for him to feel undermined or emasculated. Some men may not feel that way, but I'm guessing most would.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 11:13pm On Jul 07, 2014
dagr8:
Is that your Job undecided
You people fail to get the joke, she did not even have a profile picture. i was just messing with y'all
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Bloomingbud(f): 11:21pm On Jul 07, 2014
Mynd44:
I like your profile picture. Hot and sexy......you are awesomely beautiful cheesy grin grin cheesy grin cheesy grin


Are you sure? There is no picture on my profile.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 11:24pm On Jul 07, 2014
Bloomingbud:


Are you sure? There is no picture on my profile.
Well I might be a wizard na
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Bloomingbud(f): 11:26pm On Jul 07, 2014
It seems some men feel threatened when their wives earn more than them, don't know why its like that but I'll definitely want my hubby to earn more than i do.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Bloomingbud(f): 11:28pm On Jul 07, 2014
Mynd44:
Well I might be a wizard na


Even if you are, you are seeing doubles.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 11:29pm On Jul 07, 2014
Bloomingbud:


Even if you are, you are seeing doubles.
You think
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by TheBigUrban2: 7:39am On Jul 08, 2014
Mynd44, you are dry. undecided

Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by TheBigUrban2: 7:44am On Jul 08, 2014
Anyhoo,

IT IS TUESDAY, PEOPLE!!


Ihedinobi, it is time for the new topic. New topic Tuesday!!


But I also love Tuesdays for another reason; double pizza tuesdays. cry How I missed pizzas.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by UjSizzle(f): 7:58am On Jul 08, 2014
Bloomingbud: It seems some men feel threatened when their wives earn more than them, don't know why its like that but I'll definitely want my hubby to earn more than i do.

I can't help but wonder if you'll think the same way should your husband earn a monthly emolument that's not sufficient to cater for yours and the children's needs.

A lot of people need to grow up mentally. Marriage goes beyond what's good for me and my feelings to what's beneficial for us and our needs.
If a man's pride always gets in the way of progress foe the unit, then a woman's emotional response might just as well be validated too.
Certain feelings and emotions can be trained out of us if we even bother to try. Let's stop trying to validate childish behaviors please and start encouraging one another to grow mentally, physically and spiritually.
Take pride in the family unit. Take pride in your wife's success, because as long as she respects you as the head your ego should stay very much intact. What's the point of a help mate if you won't give her the chance of actually being useful if your domestic economy is low or literally nonexistent? How will she be helpful if you kept stifling every attempt for her to blossom in the past all because of your pride and ego?

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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:02am On Jul 08, 2014
yetseyi:
hmmm embarassed

well its always easy to say this is what I will do when you re not in the situation so Da gr8 I may wont answer that question
lol,may be I should reframe the question. You have a dream you cherish so much, a time came for you to step out to achieve the dream, your hubby is not in support of it and knowing the Bible asks the wives to be submissive. Would you go against the husband's authority and still go ahead with the dream or you would give up the dream? wink
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:02am On Jul 08, 2014
@texanomaly, I believe we have no other valid perspective in this discussion but the biblical perspective, right?
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Nobody: 8:04am On Jul 08, 2014
undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:07am On Jul 08, 2014
ujsizzle:
I can't help but wonder if you'll think the same way should your husband earn a monthly emolument that's not sufficient to cater for yours and the children's needs.

A lot of people need to grow up mentally. Marriage goes beyond what's good for me and my feelings to what's beneficial for us and our needs.
If a man's pride always gets in the way of progress foe the unit, then a woman's emotional response might just as well be validated too.
Certain feelings and emotions can be trained out of us if we even bother to try. Let's stop trying to validate childish behaviors please and start encouraging one another to grow mentally, physically and spiritually.
Take pride in the family unit. Take pride in your wife's success, because as long as she respects you as the head your ego should stay very much intact. What's the point of a help mate if you won't give her the chance of actually being useful if your domestic economy is low or literally nonexistent? How will she be helpful if you kept stifling every attempt for her to blossom in the past all because of your pride and ego?
I love it when you you post lady grin

@emboldened...this is where many wives have made mistake in the past and it is what I think many husbands are scared of.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 8:09am On Jul 08, 2014
ujsizzle:
I can't help but wonder if you'll think the same way should your husband earn a monthly emolument that's not sufficient to cater for yours and the children's needs.

A lot of people need to grow up mentally. Marriage goes beyond what's good for me and my feelings to what's beneficial for us and our needs.
If a man's pride always gets in the way of progress foe the unit, then a woman's emotional response might just as well be validated too.
Certain feelings and emotions can be trained out of us if we even bother to try. Let's stop trying to validate childish behaviors please and start encouraging one another to grow mentally, physically and spiritually.
Take pride in the family unit. Take pride in your wife's success, because as long as she respects you as the head your ego should stay very much intact. What's the point of a help mate if you won't give her the chance of actually being useful if your domestic economy is low or literally nonexistent? How will she be helpful if you kept stifling every attempt for her to blossom in the past all because of your pride and ego?
You go tire. African men can't stand their women being more successful than them. it has being hardwired into their heads
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by TheBigUrban2: 8:13am On Jul 08, 2014
Mynd44:
You go tire. African men can't stand their women being more successful than them. it has being hardwired into their heads


It is not only African men. ....you are African by the way. undecided


Conservative christians and muslims believe that they are the head/master of their house. This makes them to feel that they should be the one "above".

You would notice this in deeply (abrahamic) religious countries. Saudi, Iran, Nigeria, USA etc
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by dagr8(m): 8:15am On Jul 08, 2014
Mintayo:
Do you actually know that there are some women who does not want their husband to be more successful than them? I have seen two,if not three.
Let me too stop here firstwinksmiley
When a couple become competitors, it becomes like Germany playing Brazil instead of Thiago Silva playing alongside Neymar grin.

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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by TheBigUrban2: 8:22am On Jul 08, 2014
dagr8:
When a couple become competitors, it becomes like Germany playing Brazil instead of Thiago Silva playing alongside Neymar grin.

Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Mynd44: 8:31am On Jul 08, 2014
dagr8:
When a couple become competitors, it becomes like Germany playing Brazil instead of Thiago Silva playing alongside Neymar grin.
At least they will respect one another as sportsmen; when African couples fight over financial superiority, all respect is thrown into the gutter and they turn to blackmail and throw all sort of tantrum.

There was this hypothetical question that if you and your wife work in the same firm, she earns 350,000 and you earn 200,000. you might not see it as a problem initially but if the company wants to downsize and they ask one of you to quit, will you be the one to quit or your wife?

The answer showed how a lot of us men think and are even willing to sacrifice the comfort of our home for pride and arrogance. The truth is that a lot of men suffer from ego issues as they have been taught from birth that they are providers and the women are takers. This is also why Bloomingbud can confidently post that comment which contradicts itself. On one hand she wonders why men are threatened by because she does not see it as a big deal but on the other hand she does not want to be caught in that situation because she has been told that she must be financially inferior to her husband.

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