fkaz: I can now see those behind the rot in this nation, because despite all their investment in winning soul,building school,transforming lives,beauty for ashes, boa boa boa. It is now time 2 flex Δπϑ the country is still going worse,with all your prayer. BABA GOD U DEY HEAR YOUR PASTORS O.

REVOLUTNIS:
ur reply didn't answer my question. i agree wt the Bible references here but i think u are contradict urself sir.
u said u are a co creator with God who in Genesis 1:26-27 "And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness" the plural "Let us" is talking of Trinity or Godhead referring to God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Where did u MAN fall in to be a 'co creator with ALMIGHTY God? that He blessed them and charged the sons of Noah to be fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.Gen 9:7 Does these made MAN a co creator with Elohim? u quoted Matt 16:19, how does it fit-in in MAN being a co creator with God. Sir,explain to me how u MAN become a co creator with GOD.

m.k.o2005:

Let God be the judge !
See below what Christ said :

''You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Mathew 7:1-3 ''Judge not, that ye be not judged''. Mathew 7:5

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?''
Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling !
God bless us

ogaju007:

Guy you're ffdd up beyond repair.

lastpage:

Dolt!
You forgot to add the STANDARD REPLY: "Touch not my anointed and do my Bishop no-harm"?

God gave you (and everyone else) A BRAIN, FOR A REASON! ....So that you would at least do some ground research and stop bothering HIM on mundane things!

But peeps like you are REFUSING to use that Brain!
Instead, you croon: ONLY GOD KNOWS!

I also noticed that you have made it your duty to "respond to everyone's post"?

Are you a beneficiary (one way or the other) ...Or have Pastors too started giving out Forty (40) Laptops?

Waka joor make l see front.

Lastpage!

m.k.o2005:

Thank u sir ! If God sees me as condemend,HE alone can repair me !
May God bless u
God help us all !

Goshen360: Okay Bishop Wale Oke. I know I love you and have been blessed by your very own ministry when I schooled at Federal Polytechnic, Offa in Kwara state, Nigeria on one of your radio transmitted in Offa.

With due respect sir, I'll like to comment on this arrogant statement of yours perhaps you may be reading:



This is nothing but an arrogant statements. So it has become you guys (MoGs) who wins the soul and no longer the Holy Spirit? It has become you and your colleague who empowers the poor and yet many Nigerians are still living under $2/day? It is no longer God who work through you as a vessel Your statements are filled with self achievement and doesn't answer to scripture sir. Even the universities built, how many of the members in their economic state can afford the tuition aside the rich. You boast of transforming lives and yet, life itself is not in the abundance of what man owns but quality.

Jesus said, "I have glorified you on the earth: I have finished the work which you gave me to do", John 17:4 and Apostle Paul said same thing in 2 Timothy 4:7. When Jesus and the Apostle made such a bold statement, Jesus had not even died and yet he said, "he had finishED the work". What then is the finished work when he had not died? He had REPRODUCED himself in a generation of men that will work according the same work he had done. Today's MoG are busy expanding their empire, not the kingdom and REPRODUCING collection centers called "church branches" whereby they can accumulate more money to acquire their earthly possessions. How many of Adeboye's Pastor have their private jets How many of Ayo Oritsejafor's branch pastor have the their own jets Or are they not all called to preach the gospel

Again, nobody is envy of your private jet since we now know you are also beginning to covet after your own private jet hence you must come out to defend MoGs with private jets. The real critics is the means by which the private jets are acquired. When MoGs use all sort of gimmicks to milk the sheep in order to acquire wealth is the real issue sir.

DanielNoble: and you are blind. The guy is make deep points with good insight.

Zet72:
guy forget that ur catholic or whatever u call it, it is time to move on the same catholic church that keep taxing the poor peps inn the villages to build churches in Rome ,what the pastor said is true,"he that watereth shall be watered, if u work in Gods vineyard God will work in urs, u people should stop all this noise about private, jet their are tools for evangelism .

m.k.o2005:

I'm not disturbed in anyway with the negative comments i see or hear about pastors. Pators are human just like you and i. If there is any one of them that has done something 'wrong',what i will do is to let him know according to the dictates of the bible and i go home and pray for them ! God and my wife will bare me withness that we(My wife and i)both pray for the country Nigeria morning and night ! I pray also for the fake and true men of God (POPE,REV.PASTORS,BISHOPS,DEACONS,EVANGELISTS AND OTHER BELIEVERS AND NON BELIEVERS) That is what i am saying my friend. Let us pray for them Becos i dnt belive in the doctrines of the roman catholic church does not mean i should insult and abuse the pope ! But God knows his pple ! Just pray for them all ! But i know becos the bible says that all liars will end up in hell ! Anyone who lives in sin and does not want to repent will end up in hell ! I did not say so but that is a statement of fact according to the bible ! We should not be happy that fake men of God should end up in hell ! Pray for them to repent my friend !
God will help us

Kamsy10:

My dear call a spade a spade, nigerian pastors n jet madness is very worrisome. Even when they recount their achievements like, I built a university, how many of their members can afford those schools. At the end, the school is built for the rich. Whats my point? I'm happy to see that my people boldly condemn jet acquisition by pastors cos right now,there is no clear difference btw them and politicians

ogaju007:

You forgot to add 419 too lol> Awon ole buruku

Kamsy10:

My dear call a spade a spade, nigerian pastors n jet madness is very worrisome. Even when they recount their achievements like, I built a university, how many of their members can afford those schools. At the end, the school is built for the rich. Whats my point? I'm happy to see that my people boldly condemn jet acquisition by pastors cos right now,there is no clear difference btw them and politicians

Kamsy10:

It's even more worrisome that people are afraid to correct the pastors when they are clearly derailing. The way the jet madness is on the rise, any pastor that doesn't have one means that his ministry is not doing well. I expect the next round of competition to be: How many jets do you have?

Kamsy10:

sharaap. does your comment even make sense to you

m.k.o2005:

Criminals use ipads and cell phones,does using such gadgets make me a criminal also?
People who lodge in hotels go in with the opposite sex most times !Does dat mean if i lodge in a hotel overnight i must go in with an opposite sex ?
For the fact that politicians use jets does that make using jet a bad thing ? Tuface wears a low cut or skin cut hair and he is a hip hop artiste wen a wear same hair cut may be as a pastor pple say i have gone hip hop !
That is not how it works. Pators are humans and if God has promised his children the good things of life,i dnt see anything wrong if i accept good things of life from God ! The only time i can down play on having those good things is wen i see that it can cos u to fall as a baby christian but that does not mean i am not entitled to have it !
If they recount their achievements like 'i built a university' like u have rightly said,is there anything wrong in saying that ? The only time i will call them and say 'ah man of God are you saying God never helped you in achieving this fit ? If he said No ! I did it alone then i will remind him that the word of God said it is only a fool that will take credits for the things he has achieved !
I dnt try to be wise with God ! If i start to negatively criticise the church and the men of God today,i dnt think any one of you can do that more than me. I want to appear foolish concerning the things of God so that God can make me wise ! See below scripture:
''Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in the ways of this world, he must become a fool to become really wise.''1 Corinthins 3:18
God help us

m.k.o2005:

No insults pls ! Christians dnt do that !
God help us

ogaju007:

Who told you the religious affiliation of this person?

rusher14:
But a lady who dresses like a prostitute should not be expected to be treated much differently.
If it quacks like a duck...
If Nigeria was a country in which charity was seen and not only heard perhaps one would be tempted to think it is for good reasons.
However, this is far from the case and so you can try supporting these workers of iniquity as much as you like but there are a few of us who can discern (thank God for this ability) and would not be taken for fools.
Sorry, this new craze for private jets is as a result of too much cash sitting pretty in some church accounts and the custodians (men of the robe) thinking how best they can enjoy it becase it is pointless having so much money and not being able to enjoy it.

m.k.o2005:

It did not start with private jets and it will not end with it ! It may have started with long shoes,nice suits and belt to match ! Nice car(s) using commercial planes and now private jets ! Who knows what next ! If u think there is wisdom and it is eye opening to insult pple wether men of God or not,then go ahead.''Let no one deceive himself. If any of you thinks he is wise in the ways of this world, he must become a fool to become really wise.''-1 Corinthians 3:18

SEE BELOW WHAT MOST OF US HAVE BEEN SAYING TO MEN OF GOD BEFORE AND NOW !

[b]Man of God no get money u say him dey poor as church rat.Say him suit na coat & him shoe barb bobby brown becos e don chop finish.
Man of God come preach for U in dat condition,come tell u say his God will supply all ur needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.U come tell am say why him God no supply for am 1st b4 him go supply for others. Now man of God come see am say him fit still make money like Job,solomon,Isaac & even Abraham as God say him don give us power to make wealth & come still go heaven !Man of God come apply D heavenly principles of makin wealth,come still get better better relationship with God,come preach to u again,u come say becos him wey be man of God get money,car,plane wey 'God give am',say him na THIEF,BASTARD,FAKE,PASTORPRENEUR. Haba my friend,abi God no fit give person things wey good ?Abi na only poverty God sabi give HIM children or if you say good things self na for children of God,man of God no follow for children of God !
You don forget say as we get fake na so original plenty !
wake up if u care ! Or u may still decide to be poor with sores on your body just like lazarus & still go to heaven. It depends on what you want friend !
Man of God don sign to be in good health,receive wealth from God wey him go take enjoy the long life wey God give am for earth while his relationship with God is still very very intact ![/b]

Now it depends on what u want to do with ur life ! But i pray that God will help everyone of us !
God bless us

rusher14:
Are such words as: prudence, conservationism, charity, circumspection, thrift etc. missing from you and these men of the robes vocabulary?
Is there not a single purchase or financial outlay that would prick your hearts?
Are you hellbent on making sure you show the world the rewards of the brigandage that is now the life of the clergy?

Ola one: The same Wale Oke who engaged in extra-marital affair in the '90s?

ogaju007:

A blind man blogging that must be one of the stupid miracles you guys will cheer to in church. Brainless idiot.

lexio: I'm so distressed by this statement. It appears that rewards are no longer in heaven but right here on earth. Enumerating your achievements for God as grounds for possessing extreme wealth is ridiculous as a religious leader. Can the branches of any Christian denomination be more than that of the Catholic Church world-wide or the anglican communion? Their leaders have no jets. Well with the use of logic, anything is justifiable.

m.k.o2005:

Who are my to judge an un-believer or the clergy ?
Let God judge us all !
God bless us

rusher14:
But a lady who dresses like a prostitute should not be expected to be treated much differently.
If it quacks like a duck...
If Nigeria was a country in which charity was seen and not only heard perhaps one would be tempted to think it is for good reasons.
However, this is far from the case and so you can try supporting these workers of iniquity as much as you like but there are a few of us who can discern (thank God for this ability) and would not be taken for fools.
Sorry, this new craze for private jets is as a result of too much cash sitting pretty in some church accounts and the custodians (men of the robe) thinking how best they can enjoy it becase it is pointless having so much money and not being able to enjoy it.

rusher14:
You sure have mastered the art of circumlocution.
Some things are straightforward but I guess even you cannot account for a lack of conscience.

pastor prosper :
u are a poverty stricken animal.