true2god: If Jesus were to be alive today u will also call him a 'scammer' given the way and manner he operates during his earthly ministry, and ur present parameter on measuring wats is scriptural and wats is not.

I think u need to keep mute on certain things u dnt understand or better still ask God for the spirit of discernment and stop judging and critising.

Remember that 'sin against the holy spirit is unforgivable'.

frosbel:

Can you show me one instance in scripture , especially in the early church, where Christians behaved in this manner, do you consider barking like dogs an honorable thing ?

Is this the gospel Jesus came to preach, did he not come to call sinners to repentance and make disciples of of the saved.

What on earth has this show got to do with salvation ?

Joagbaje:





What are you talking ? Is it a crusade? Do you call sinners among saints ? These videos were christian gatherings . And these were manifestations of the holygjost. . There are different kinds of meetings. There is teaching meeting, there's a holygjost meeting where you have divers manifestations and demonstrations of the spirit.

Ephesians 5:18-19
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

1 Corinthians 14:26
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.



What has your thread got to do with salvation either? Is this thread drawing sinners to God or drawing sinners away through your mockery of God

frosbel:


Oh , wait let's see, Christ Embassy !

No surprise , false teachers .

Joagbaje:

And you sheep without shepherd

Qualification of false Shepherds

1. Deut.18:22 If a proclamation is made in the name of the LORD does not come true you have a False Prophet!

2. Titus1:11 They do what they do for the sake of dishonest gain. They love money and you have a False Shepherd!

3. 2 Jn.1:9 They love the spotlight and crave the attention inserting their name for recognition at every opportunity and being in control of a ministry above accountability. They will isolate their flock away from others who know the truth and will watch every move they make, escorting them back to their side of the street, so to speak! You have a False Shepherd!

4. 1Tim.6:4 They divert attention away from the main issues surrounding their sin by stirring up evil suspicions against those who would expose them. The motive is to keep the money flowing into their ministry. BINGO! You have another False Shepherd!

5. Rev.2:2 They have no problem with telling lies of all sizes saying over and over that they are Christians and even signing documents Mr. So and So (a Christian Man) and are not! LIARS! Just another False Shepherd.

6. 2Cor.11:14 They dress up fine, smell good, smile a lot, masquerading as a servant of righteousness. Their end will be what they deserve!


We have 1 Tim 3 and Titus1 to find what a good shepherd is like and future articles will expound those and other verses.
We thank James R. Steinle for his writings on false shepherds and its impact on this article!

1Thes.5:21 “prove all things, hold fast to that which is good”

http://falseshepherds.com/

Joagbaje:


What are you talking ? Is it a crusade? Do you call sinners among saints ? These videos were christian gatherings . And these were manifestations of the holygjost. . There are different kinds of meetings. There is teaching meeting, there's a holygjost meeting where you have divers manifestations and demonstrations of the spirit.

Ephesians 5:18-19
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

1 Corinthians 14:26
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.



Is your thread a gospel? To bring salvation or reproach to the christ you claim to serve



What has your thread got to do with salvation either? Is this thread drawing sinners to God or drawing sinners away through your mockery of God

Bidam: frosbel scam has been exposed for all to see. he actually got this disjointed u-tube video from an unchristian website...if you watch the tail end of the video you will see them quoting pagans like Diogenes and Euripides...let me quote them for all those that did not watch the video(Kenneth hagin and Copeland):"most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad"-Diogenes. "whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".. Euripides Greek tragic dramatist(484bc-406bc). these are quotes from unbelievers who don't even know God talk more of understanding the operations and manifestations of the HOLY SPIRIT...frosbel is just a scam artist used as a willing tool in the hand of the devil to propagate falsehood.

Bidam: frosbel scam has been exposed for all to see. he actually got this disjointed u-tube video from an unchristian website...if you watch the tail end of the video you will see them quoting pagans like Diogenes and Euripides...let me quote them for all those that did not watch the video(Kenneth hagin and Copeland):"most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad"-Diogenes. "whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".. Euripides Greek tragic dramatist(484bc-406bc). these are quotes from unbelievers who don't even know God talk more of understanding the operations and manifestations of the HOLY SPIRIT...frosbel is just a scam artist used as a willing tool in the hand of the devil to propagate falsehood.

Joagbaje:

Some carnal Unspiritual Brethren allow themselves to be used as satanic. Agents. to attack the church with the feeling they are doing God service.but. Actually fulling Satan agenda.

John 16:2
. . the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

frosbel:


Keep following your wolf howling, dog barking, monkey jumping and money loving false prophets.

That's why you are deceived.

frosbel:


Keep following your wolf howling, dog barking, monkey jumping and money loving false prophets.

That's why you are deceived.

[quote author=Bidam]thank u Prof of theology. I don't follow men. I follow Pastor Jesus, i am not deceived

and i don't mock the Body of Jesus Christ..

frosbel:


Oh yes, the reporters who were beaten up by Christ Embassy thugs because they made an attempt to expose their deceptive practices, the numerous frauds in your church including the one in South Africa, various scams and countless gimmicks perpetuated by your church leaders.

Your would not know persecution if it looked you glaringly in the face.

What a SCAM !

dorox: How can a reasonable person watch this video and still think of these comedians as men of God? Just imagine the man at 4:50 minutes being lead on a leash walking on all fours like a dog, didn't you find it disgusting in a house of worship?
You guys talk like jesus did not warn that there will be lots of counterfeit christians in the last days of this world. that the number of unsaved people will far outnumber those saved. That is why it is even more important for us to use the scriptures to question beliefs and practices before accepting them as truth.

dorox: How can a reasonable person watch this video and still think of these comedians as men of God? Just imagine the man at 4:50 minutes being lead on a leash walking on all fours like a dog, didn't you find it disgusting in a house of worship?
You guys talk like jesus did not warn that there will be lots of counterfeit christians in the last days of this world. that the number of unsaved people will far outnumber those saved. That is why it is even more important for us to use the scriptures to question beliefs and practices before accepting them as truth.

frosbel:


Oh yes, the reporters who were beaten up by Christ Embassy thugs because they made an attempt to expose their deceptive practices, the numerous frauds in your church including the one in South Africa, various scams and countless gimmicks perpetuated by your church leaders.

Your would not know persecution if it looked you glaringly in the face.

What a SCAM !

Bidam: frosbel scam has been exposed for all to see. he actually got this disjointed u-tube video from an unchristian website...if you watch the tail end of the video you will see them quoting pagans like Diogenes and Euripides...let me quote them for all those that did not watch the video(Kenneth hagin and Copeland):"most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad"-Diogenes. "whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".. Euripides Greek tragic dramatist(484bc-406bc). these are quotes from unbelievers who don't even know God talk more of understanding the operations and manifestations of the HOLY SPIRIT...frosbel is just a scam artist used as a willing tool in the hand of the devil to propagate falsehood.

true2god: U might be correct. A good follower of Frosbel's post, thread and responses shows dat he is not a xtain at all but might be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Even the devil can quote the bible dan anyone on nairaland. So its no big deal if frosbel can quote the bible, written in simple english, very well. When u post a christian bashing website (written by anti-xtains or atheist) as a reference to counter a xtain congregation, den u r obviosly one of dem.

May God expose all workers of iniquity this year in jesus' name.

frosbel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrpW6Xctg8Q


Watch this video by David Wilkerson on false manifestations.

frosbel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrpW6Xctg8Q


Watch this video by David Wilkerson on false manifestations.

true2god: If im right David wilkerson is the founder of TIME SQUARE CHURCH. Among his beliefs are:
1) the deity of christ
2) divine healing
3) baptism of the holy spirit
4) everlasting damnation

do u share the same belief with him?

frosbel:

stick to the point !!

I do not support all his positions, but he was a preacher of holiness and righteousness, which is the most important aspect of Christianity.

He is one of your favorite preachers I guess, how come he finds your love and support for these false wicked manifestations to be totally unbiblical and wicked ?

He obviously can perceive something which you have missed, no ?

frosbel:

stick to the point !!

I do not support all his positions, but he was a preacher of holiness and righteousness, which is the most important aspect of Christianity.

He is one of your favorite preachers I guess, how come he finds your love and support for these false wicked manifestations to be totally unbiblical and wicked ?

He obviously can perceive something which you have missed, no ?

wordthots: @true2god ur on point, frosbel isn't straightforward wt hs beliefs. As far as am concerned he didn't put up ds post to edify, he put it up to mock n cause division.