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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Afam4eva(m): 10:39pm On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

Which your common wealth? For your unnavigable land? Which common wealth? Shay na your common wealth also give Western Nigeria highest GDP since the inception of Nigeria to now? Na your common wealth?

When you talk oil, Yorubas have oil tooooooooooooooooo!!! Itsekiri and Ilaje oil donation to FG nko? Those ones no count? Lagos is not dependent on anyone but the Yorubas common wealth. Go and die! All oil producing states get more money than Lagos, why haven't they developed faster than Lagos? OOOO It's Lagos that using Oodua intelligence agency to infiltrate their government and installing illiterates in power.
Dude, stop tribalizing this issue. We're talking about Lagos specifically. Let's not derail the topic.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aribisala0(m): 10:41pm On Jan 18, 2013
DaLover:

So there was oil boom in he nigerdelta and people just started rushing to lagos? Na wa ooo, don't you think some arguments are not necessary.
Is there no oil boom today?
Are we not selling more barrels and at a higher price than ever before? are people still not flooding in to Lagos?.

Or don't you know there is a boom??

We have made more oil money over the last few years than EVER


The issue of oil boom is TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN


it does not concern everyone
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aribisala0(m): 10:46pm On Jan 18, 2013
Afam4eva:
Dude, stop tribalizing this issue. We're talking about Lagos specifically. Let's not derail the topic.

read the report
http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Eziachi: 10:47pm On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

Ahn ahn!!! Abdulie!!!!!! Akwa Ibom is not doing as half good as Lagos. Don't get it twisted. Comparing Lagos to Akwa Ibom is like comparing Abuja to Nnewi. No be same catigori oo..

Potentially, Akwa Ibom can be like present Lagos but whoever told you Lagos is going to remain as it is now? Mariwo leri, egungun nbo leyin.



Omg!!! LIAR!! WHICH BANKS ARE OWNED BY DELTA IGBOS THAT BANKS OWNED BY YORUBAS ARE NOT BIGGER THAN?

I double dare those banks owned by Delta Igbos to close their branches in Lagos and see if they won't fold up.

You have not been to Lagos. Tell Ben Bruce to go and build his silverbird in Bayelsa and close the Lagos one naa..

You say they pay taxes but don't they make money in Lagos? So they don't make money in Lagos and they'll pay taxes.

No company stationed in Lagos has a plan of leaving in their growth agenda lol.

You are just sipping on hater tonic. How many fucccking companies Niger Deltans get for Lagos wey Yorubas no get bigger ones?? One time you fools want Lagos to be free for all, but y'all quick to call out your sons trained by Lagos to be successful. YES most successful Nigerians need Lagos, Hat some more.

No place in east, North or south will ever be like Lagos. I say that with pride and arrogance. Without Lagos, your successful sons are nothing but civil servants. Lagos brings out the best in you. Other places na dulling una dey.

Some of you ver exaggerate this. Its people and statu given to a place or a city that makes that city what it is. Lagos was the capital of Nigeria for many years and all the infrastructures of modern world for the nation of Nigeria was first built in Lagos and that gives Lagos a head start, many years ahead of other places.
If the north didn't take the capital to Abuja, everything today built in Abuja as the capital will surely be located in Lagos and Lagos would have even be bigger than it is today.

If Calabar was kept as the capital of Nigeria as it were when the missionaries arrived, Lagos will not be different from cities like Benin in statu today.
The ports, airports that was first build in Lagos will be build in Calabar.

In terms of what nature can offer, what is it that Lagos has that Port Harcourt don't have? But you can't compare Lagos to port Harcourt today? This just because of their different status dating back years.

If Nigeria had broken up in 1967 and Oduduwa was to become a republic, Ibadan would had been better than Lagos of today because it would have become the capital of Oduduwa state and will enjoy the incentive of a capital city. All the oil companies and others there will not be there but somewhere else.
What put the son ahead of a daughter in some cultures are status given to a male, take that away, most daughters are smarter than many sons.

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by emmatok(m): 10:48pm On Jan 18, 2013
DaLover:

Cotonou is not thriving without oil,
I meant lagos would have been like Cotonou without oil money spurring the developments in lagos today...after all Cotonou has a sea port, so why isn't it as big as lagos?

If oil had not been discovered in nigeria, the developments the British made in lagos would have remained as any normal sea port city on the west coast of Africa. The oil money made lagos grow differently, especially as the fG placed every hook line and sinker there...

But funny enuf, even he economy of Cotonou is sustained indirectly by oil money from nigeria

Are you saying Cotonou is not triving.
Do you know the amount imports coming to Cotonou even Nigerians go there to import.
So how is Cotonou been sustained indirectly from Oil. What oil.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aribisala0(m): 10:49pm On Jan 18, 2013
Eziachi:
Some of you ver exaggerate this. Its people and statu give to a place or a city that makes that city what it is. Lagos was the capital of Nigeria for many years and all the infrastructures of modern world for the nation of Nigeria was built in Lagos and that gives Lagos a head start many years ahead of others.
If the north didn't take the capital to Abuja, everything today in Abuja will be allocated in Lagos.

If Calabar was kept as the capital of Nigeria as it were when the missionaries arrived, Lagos will not be different from cities like Benin in statu.
The ports, airports that was first build in Lagos will be build in Calabar.

In terms of what nature can offer, what is it that Lagos has that Port Harcourt didn't have? But you can't compare Lagos to port Harcourt because of their statu.
If Nigeria had broken up in 1967 and Oduduwa was to become a republic, Ibadan would had been better than Lagos of today because it would have become the capital of Oduduwa state and will enjoy the incentive of a capital city. All the oil companies and others there will not be there but somewhere else.
What put the son ahead of a daughter in some cultures are status given to a male, take that away, most daughters are smarter than many sons.

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN CALABAR WAS CAPITAL OF NIGERIA?? WHICH YEAR EXACTLY OR YEARS??
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Afam4eva(m): 10:52pm On Jan 18, 2013
@0lumide
This will be the first and last warning that i'll give you. Don't post that thing again.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Eziachi: 10:55pm On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide: Jealousy go kill una!!!

Let us compare Lagos and Calabar.

Lagos was Capital before oil, Calabar was Capital before oil

Lagos has access to sea, Calabar has access to sea.

Lagos never got oil producing state fund, Calabar got oil producing state fund.

Lagos had allocation withheld by for 3 or 4yrs, Calabar never experienced this calamity.

What is stopping Calabar from being like Lagos? Cross River used to get the 13% allocation. What happened?

Una never start ooo!!!! Na wash una dey so lol...

There is a huge difference between Lagos as the capital of Nigeria and Calabar as the capital. When Calabar was the capital, its was based mainly on a statu missionary activities than commerce, as to when they moved it to Lagos.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Eziachi: 10:57pm On Jan 18, 2013
aribisala0:

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN CALABAR WAS CAPITAL OF NIGERIA?? WHICH YEAR EXACTLY OR YEARS??
I cannot be specific but it was in the earliest days of British colony process, mainly by missionaries, that is why even to those of my age, the date is obscure, but you are smart enough to search to find out ans share it with us.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by DaLover(m): 11:00pm On Jan 18, 2013
emmatok:

Are you saying Cotonou is not triving.
Do you know the amount imports coming to Cotonou even Nigerians go there to import.
So how is Cotonou been sustained indirectly from Oil. What oil.

Nigerian businesses revolve around oil money, it is the oil money we spend when we go to Cotonou to buy cars...
Hope this cures you
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jan 18, 2013
Eziachi:
Some of you ver exaggerate this. Its people and statu give to a place or a city that makes that city what it is. Lagos was the capital of Nigeria for many years and all the infrastructures of modern world for the nation of Nigeria was built in Lagos and that gives Lagos a head start many years ahead of others.
If the north didn't take the capital to Abuja, everything today in Abuja will be allocated in Lagos.

If Calabar was kept as the capital of Nigeria as it were when the missionaries arrived, Lagos will not be different from cities like Benin in statu.
The ports, airports that was first build in Lagos will be build in Calabar.

In terms of what nature can offer, what is it that Lagos has that Port Harcourt didn't have? But you can't compare Lagos to port Harcourt because of their statu.
If Nigeria had broken up in 1967 and Oduduwa was to become a republic, Ibadan would had been better than Lagos of today because it would have become the capital of Oduduwa state and will enjoy the incentive of a capital city. All the oil companies and others there will not be there but somewhere else.
What put the son ahead of a daughter in some cultures are status given to a male, take that away, most daughters are smarter than many sons.

your "IF TO SAY" na wash!!

All your Niger Delta states have been collecting more money than Lagos since 1999. Wetin Happen?

When Capital was moved from Calabar, why didn't Calabar be like Lagos? Wait, why is Lagos better than Calabar? even before oil?

The money from the SEAPORT doesn't even go to Lagos state account. It goes to FG so building the seaport in Lagos is not a Lagos business and a Yoruba man didn't advice FG to build the seaport there.

Lagos is planning to build it's own SEAPORT why hasn't Calabar done the same?

When FG sweet una mouth with dredging river niger lol, y'all thought it would affect Lagos income no be so? We shall see. Lagos gets nothing from the port. And if majority of the product imported ends up in Lagos causing the buyers to pay taxes, is that Lagos' problem? or how does that mean that Lagos is chopping oil money?


One thing you people don't understand is that Lagos is not mineral resources based economy like Nigeria. Lagos is market based!!!!!!!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Akanbiedu(m): 11:01pm On Jan 18, 2013
The governor should be more circumspect in his utterances. People are emotional and those things matter more to them than performance in office. people naturally feel threatened by performers and may likely start looking for faults. El-rufai is better remembered for his arrogance than his good works in Abuja. Buhari is better remembered for his religion than his good works. Awolowo was equally called arrogant.

#A n ju won o see wi l'ejo, ija ilara o tan boro oo#

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Hardfact: 11:02pm On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

Which your common wealth? For your unnavigable land? Which common wealth? Shay na your common wealth also give Western Nigeria highest GDP since the inception of Nigeria to now? Na your common wealth?

When you talk oil, Yorubas have oil tooooooooooooooooo!!! Itsekiri and Ilaje oil donation to FG nko? Those ones no count? Lagos is not dependent on anyone but the Yorubas common wealth. Go and die! All oil producing states get more money than Lagos, why haven't they developed faster than Lagos? OOOO It's Lagos that using Oodua intelligence agency to infiltrate their government and installing illiterates in power.
Thread is clean so far. Let it remain so.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aribisala0(m): 11:05pm On Jan 18, 2013
Eziachi:
I cannot be specific but it was in the earliest days of British colony process, mainly by missionaries, that is why even to those of my age, the date is obscure, but you are smart enough to search to find out ans share it with us.
The reason I challenge you is because it is a false claim and perhaps you should know better than to propagate a falsehood to impressionable young people.Nigeria was created in 1914 and Lagos was the Capital from day one. If you have contrary evidence let us have it !!!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aribisala0(m): 11:07pm On Jan 18, 2013
DaLover:

If you build a house on my land in my absence, when I return, the house becomes mine because the land is mine,
Nobody forced you to develop lagos, as long as you contribute to its development you are doing it for the lagos man, this does not apply to only lagos,
It also applies to every other city or place, London ph etc
Lagos is open to all Nigerians who are welcome to live in Lagos as long as they respect its ethnic identity and customs. It s has always been an open place so that argument does not work.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by DaLover(m): 11:12pm On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

your "IF TO SAY" na wash!!

All your Niger Delta states have been collecting more money than Lagos since 1999. Wetin Happen?

When Capital was moved from Calabar, why didn't Calabar be like Lagos? Wait, why is Lagos better than Calabar? even before oil?

The money from the SEAPORT doesn't even go to Lagos state account. It goes to FG so building the seaport in Lagos is not a Lagos business and a Yoruba man didn't advice FG to build the seaport there.

Lagos is planning to build it's own SEAPORT why hasn't Calabar done the same?

When FG sweet una mouth with dredging river niger lol, y'all thought it would affect Lagos income no be so? We shall see. Lagos gets nothing from the port. And if majority of the product imported ends up in Lagos causing the buyers to pay taxes, is that Lagos' problem? or how does that mean that Lagos is chopping oil money?


One thing you people don't understand is that Lagos is not mineral resources based economy like Nigeria. Lagos is market based!!!!!!!

Read the following Wikipedia links for your own cure
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Colony
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

Did you see where oil accelerated the growth of lagos in the 60s to 80s?
Did you see how he need o stop the slave trade forced the British to enter lagos in he first instance and how run away slaves settled in lagos from all oops and cranny rapidly increasing the population?
Do you now see that Lagos has been lucky to have gotten special treatment from day 1, not because its indigenes are exceptionally brilliant.
From the other links by aribisala0:
Do you see that oil and rubber from the Niger delta helped the British with the foundational development for lagos?

Do you see the need to stop arguing and be humble?
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by DaLover(m): 11:18pm On Jan 18, 2013
aribisala0:
Lagos is open to all Nigerians who are welcome to live in Lagos as long as they respect its ethnic identity and customs. It s has always been an open place so that argument does not work.

Yes it's open to any and everybody but he shouldn't become angry when the land owners lay claim....every city in southern nigeria is open to all...
If you for instance invest your hard earned money in warri, why should you be angry or feel slighted if I call warri an ijaw city?

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