You should be more concerned about your bore hole development and backward akporoko village....lmao

FreeGlobe:
what of Abuja? that's what he asked. Lagos was moving like another Ibadan before FG and oil money came.

Lagos which had Telephones in 1898 was moving like another Ibadan? Lagos that had a train line in 1895 and Carter bridge in 1901 was moving like Ibadan. It is clear you are full of hate but no it was not built by FG or Oil money .In 1900 there were street lights in Lagos. Do you have street lights in YOUR place today?
http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf

@Eko ile, et al, thread to discuss How Fashola's Lagos Achieved 89% Budget Implementation .

https://www.nairaland.com/1168721/fashola-lagos-attained-89-budget

FreeGlobe: ^
what remarkable thing has been achieved in Lagos since FG left? bunch of ingrates

Are u insinuating that ever since IBB took the FG away from lagos, the city had never had any remarkable progress or what?

Are some people suffering from short memory or do they deliberately speak from both sides of the Mouth

Why Lagos deserves special revenue allocation, by Fashola

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/05/why-lagos-deserves-special-revenue-allocation-by-fashola/

It is tragic to read and not understand.
Lagos deserves because it contributes . Presently from VAT alone 40 billion naaira monthly but derivation does NOT apply to VAT


It also contributes money from other sources I won't bother to list here.

So Lagos asking for more is not begging it is based on what it contributes.to the Federation account.

The Federal government makes money from the Port but does not maintain the road to the Port etc all those things are BUSINESS for the country not gifts to Lagos.
The Fg has investments in Lagos which it fails to maintain but turns up to collect the money.

Why should Kano and Lagos get about the same when Lagos contributes 10 times more. In fact on Local government allocation Kano gets more .

Demdem:

Are u insinuating that ever since IBB took the FG away from lagos, the city had never had any remarkable progress or what?

Berem how many ids are you using here ? You have come with your madness

aribisala0:
Berem how many ids are you using here ? You have come with your madness

Again u are confused no doubt.

aribisala0: It is tragic to read and not understand.
Lagos deserves because it contributes . Presently from VAT alone 40 billion naaira monthly but derivation does NOT apply to VAT


It also contributes money from other sources I won't bother to list here.

So Lagos asking for more is not begging it is based on what it contributes.to the Federation account.

The Federal government makes money from the Port but does not maintain the road to the Port etc all those things are BUSINESS for the country not gifts to Lagos.
The Fg has investments in Lagos which it fails to maintain but turns up to collect the money.

Why should Kano and Lagos get about the same when Lagos contributes 10 times more. In fact on Local government allocation Kano gets more .

well according to 2006 census kano is more populated that lagos.

asha 80:

well according to 2006 census kano is more populated that lagos.

that is true why are you telling me that or quoting me are we talking about census?

aribisala0: It is tragic to read and not understand.
Lagos deserves because it contributes . Presently from VAT alone 40 billion naaira monthly but derivation does NOT apply to VAT


It also contributes money from other sources I won't bother to list here.

So Lagos asking for more is not begging it is based on what it contributes.to the Federation account.

The Federal government makes money from the Port but does not maintain the road to the Port etc all those things are BUSINESS for the country not gifts to Lagos.
The Fg has investments in Lagos which it fails to maintain but turns up to collect the money.

Why should Kano and Lagos get about the same when Lagos contributes 10 times more. In fact on Local government allocation Kano gets more .

population is also a great determinant for allocation to states.

asha 80:


population is also a great determinant for allocation to states.

ok thanks for telling me

aribisala0:

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN CALABAR WAS CAPITAL OF NIGERIA?? WHICH YEAR EXACTLY OR YEARS??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabar

that link provides a direct answer to your question.

huptin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabar

that link provides a direct answer to your question.

I would like to believe you have some kind of education and grounding in English Language before quoting me or joining issues with me.
The question I asked which you quoted was very specific "WHICH YEAR(S)"??. A question I asked because I know the answer.
Calabar was Never the "CAPITAL OF NIGERIA". According to your link it served as the "seat of government" of Niger Coast Protectorate, Southern Protectorate and Oil River Protectorate entities that NEVER included The Northern Nigeria Protectorate or the Colony of Lagos.
Is it sensible to say ZUNGERU which was the capital of Northern Nigeria was ever the "CAPITAL OF NIGERIA ?"

Surely you can recognize the difference between Niger Coast Protectorate, Southern Protectorate and Oil River Protectorate on the one hand and NIGERIA on the other . ARE THEY THE SAME THING
Nigeria did NOT EXIST until all those entities MERGED?Amalgamated and NEITHER Zungeru nor Calabar were EVER capital of Nigeria

The truth is the Colony of Lagos was Merged with the Southern Protectorate in 1906 to form "The Colony and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria" and Lagos became the Capital of this new entity which later merged in 1914 with northern nigeria and Lagos became capital again. In other words Calabar was
Never the capital of a space including Lagos
Never the capital of a space including Kaduna,Sokoto Zungeru etc
It is more accurate even when referring to Southern Protectorate to talk about "SEAT OF GOVERNMENT" rather than Capital which would suggest some kind of Nationhood

Lagos used to be the capital of Nigeria but it is now Abuja.If Nigeria merges today with Cameroun to form Camengeria and Yaounde is the new capital will it be right to say Lagos was the First Capital of Camengeria

TheViper: If he had said Lagos can survive without oil money fine, but saying it's the only state that can survive is disrespectful to other states. In my opinion every state can survive without oil because people will have no choice but to find other means of survival.

exactly, dats my point!

ilugunboy:

Your naivety oozes out more everyday ...I thought by now that you've spent some months in this community, you will have learn how to argue your point.

Lmao @ Ilugunboy.

Well given the position of Lagos today as the ONLY size able commercial capital (and all the perks that comes with it), also, its peculiar position and history in Nigeria as a capital (with all the perks at that time), it is not surprising that in 2013 it can survive without oil money (if that is the case).

Why would anyone expect other states to be able to compete in terms of taxation from big business, apart from maybe the major oil producing states?

It is not as if all states where in the same position on all levels throughout Nigeria's history.

Maybe when other parts of the country begin to be seen as entry points into Nigeria, things will be more as they should be, in terms of leveling out any disparity.

I think this is what Jonathan wants to achieve..... a spreading out of the economy across the country.

With all the building of ports and supposed upgrading of airports etc.......also the railways etc.

I for one think Lagos should carry on in its path......we need a tried example to follow don't we?

It would be good if Fashola could share with other states, how they got into that position.......he is not just a Lagosian, he is still also a Nigerian.

What would make me even happier is to see other states all over the country arrive at a position where they also don't rely on oil money (apart from the oil producing states, of course.)
That is a sure way to end the centralisation of power at the centre, once and for all.

Lagos is lucky not clever or Brilliant . In many ways Akwa Ibom is on the right path. To compete with Lagos States Like Rivers,Delta,Bayelsa should use their oil money to develop Seaports with good access roads and road networks .Those things will generate more money than oil in the future.As we speak there is no sizeable Car Mart in Akwa Ibom and most cars still come from Lagos. A good port in a country like Nigeria is like a thousand oil wells.

TheViper: If he had said Lagos can survive without oil money fine, but saying it's the only state that can survive is disrespectful to other states. In my opinion every state can survive without oil because people will have no choice but to find other means of survival.

Too bad your feelings got hurt, but the people of lagos state didn't put the governor in office to cater to your feelings or worry about your other states. Your lazy states stepping up should be your primary concern and not what some governor said about his own state.

aribisala0: Let me try again . Perhaps you have heard of the Suez Canal ? Egypt OWNS the Suez canal. If Egypt was as strong militarily as Russia.Ownership of the Suez Canal would make it one of the richest nations on Earth because it can impose levies on whatever goods pass through it. Now it has to compromise and be "reasonable" with the powers that are

All along I argued that Lagos's position is because of its location and the unique nature of access and its ports which were there before 1900 when it was a colony.But Afam4eva claimed the ports were built from commonwealth or by FG

DaLover is here shouting it was built with NigerDelta rubber and Palm Oil .You Yust do not get it.Our people say it is the man with the Yam who looks for the man with the yam not the other way round.Why did they not move the oil and rubber out through Warri or Calabar since you have been shouting all along that all coasts are the same.
Is that argument just as ridiculous as saying the US was built with Nigerian slaves? or Britain by Jamaican Sugar?

Is it the mouth that tells the stomach it is hungry or the other way round?

Lagos's position in those days was a very solid monopoly.You want to export your goods you pass through us and we take our share which may be bigger than yours.Shouting it is Niger delta oil or rubber is like shouting it is African coffee or Cocoa . Is it Africans that make the money or Nestle and Starbucks.
London is the place where the greatest number of financial transactions are done.Will it not be foolish of Arabs to say London was built on Arab oil.Nay London was built on British diplomacy,trickery,colonial history etc.
Lagos is what it is because of where it is period.Those who invested in it had no choice if they wanted to trade in Nigeria or more correctly the choices were less PROFITABLE.
What the figures in this link tell you is how much money was being made from Lagos wharfs before 1900. Clearly it was a profitable investment for the British

To the extent that they established a telephone exchange IN LAGOS as far back as 1890 and street lights 1898.
.http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf

I wonder how we get on opposing sides of arguments! I guess we both must have strong convictions in what we perceive to be the truth! Great use of facts in you rebuttals… It will definitely be an honor to debate you in real life.

Wallie:

I wonder how we get on opposing sides of arguments! I guess we both must have strong convictions in what we perceive to be the truth! Great use of facts in you rebuttals… It will definitely be an honor to debate you in real life.

It is quite easy to see how we get on opposite sides

I think then I speak; You speak and then you speak .The outcome is always predictable won't you say

When I read threads like this, I often laugh given how people make their arguments. Lagos, just like every other city or state can survive without oil. Every state has the potential but just not using it, however, given the current status quo, even Lagos will struggle to pay it's bills if oil inputs directly or indirectly is affected.

aribisala0:
It is quite easy to see how we get on opposite sides

I think then I speak; You speak and then you speak .The outcome is always predictable won't you say

Predictable in my favor? Sure; I take no prisoners! Although, another explanation could be that your moments of brilliance are sinusoidal or topic dependent. Either way, you hold your own!

Its obvious that our education has really declined that many Nigerian youths could not ascertain economic factors and growth apparatus! Going by the comments of many here I just can't figure out where this nation is headed.
Well to those who beat the ethnic drum, the economy of a city develop over several years and what Lagos Governor said was the fact.
The informal sector that remain largely untaxed can still make Lagos much richer than it presently is. Who owns what is of no bearing and considering the infrastructure that abound(though meager) Lagos will remain ,the hub of West Africa for decades to come. The question of who built today's Lagos can be credited to the Awolowo's era and not any Federal Government.