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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Nobody: 9:54am On Jan 18, 2013
Some people carry this matter for head sha... grin
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by slimfit1(m): 9:58am On Jan 18, 2013
He is probably trying to say, other state should try to start looking for a means to generate revenue instead of waiting for FG's allocation all the time.

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by thelastPope(m): 9:59am On Jan 18, 2013
Delafruita: whats so significaant about festac town?is it any different from the estates jakande built?

Seriously You typed this? You are comparing Jakande estate to festac town? You must be high on alabukun!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by naja2: 10:01am On Jan 18, 2013
Truckpusher: The role played by Lagos state in the oil and gas industry politics is still benefiting the SW till this very moment....for every one Niger Deltan employed in the industry the SW gets like ten this is one reason they'll always prefer this union because they are one people that ar e benefiting immensely from it forget abt the noise making and bravado they do here ....read my lips without oil money from the Niger delta the SW is another republic of Congo and Benin republic in waiting.
..smdh
I laugh in spanish, you guys and ur oil sound like a babe with big br east and ass but without brains. If Nigeria splits today i can assure you that ND will be the worst region after sharia north. Your new country will be ruled Gej, tompolo, alamasegha,uduagan, asari dokubo and even you know that ur people are very lazy and love to enjoy unlike lagosians u guys only came in contact with civilisation in the 80s even at that most of ur "cities" are like villages. Do u know dat switzerland, sweden and south africa has no oil and yet are doin very well. The best thing any nation can pray for is the good human capital and u will agree with me that the SW has this in abundance. I have no doubt that if nigeria splits today SW will be the best in a few years after.

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by kingingkinging: 10:04am On Jan 18, 2013
kettykin: This hypocrit should have rather announced that the state Government will no longer take revenue from oil than come to deceive his gullible followers. Can lagos do without the tax from oil company headquaters in lagos.

Pls dont sya what you dont know. The only tax any company pays to any state govt is PAYE which is from the salary of the staff. No oil company pays tax to Lagos State. There is Petroleum Tax Act (PAT) which is different from other taxes. About 75%of the income of the oil companies is paid as tax to the Fed govt of Nig so invariably it is the Fed govt that collects the tax not state govt.

Do you also know that the oil companies are in joint venture with NNPC, so pls know what you are saying before jibering.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by aurenflani: 10:04am On Jan 18, 2013
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babyosisi:

The guy is being very flippant by that utterance
lagos and other states ought to be thanking the Niger delta daily not pretending as though they could survive without the quarterly Almajiri trips to Abuja
Ingrates

The North can survive and thrive with ascending development without the oil. Our agriculture and solid minerals will perform the magic even greater than what happened in the past. Our people are better educated and we will not have destabilising forces that are helping to create distrust and hatred amongst us. In fact, the North alone will be the true giant of Africa. undecided
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by UnimkeAk(m): 10:06am On Jan 18, 2013
kettykin:

For the benefit of doubt lagos did not do without federal allocation what happened was that OBJ with held the local Government Allocation because Tinubu created a lot Local Councils during his Era and the allocation was given back to lagos state after Tinubu reverted back to the exact LGA number,

I think Lagos is doing fine however the growth rate of lagos is not up to that of the Oil producing states of Akwa Ibom , Rivers and Delta , lagos is doing well compared to non oil porducing states like Kogi, benue, kwara . Lagos was already a developed city before 1999 and all the Governor has done it to plant grasses , trees and make bodies like lawam and lastma and build toll gates along lekki rd, with the yearly promises of another deep sea port and an international airport and a 4th mainland bridge beyond that lagos government has not done anything spectacular

God bless you... This lagos peeps can see themselves
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Demdem(m): 10:08am On Jan 18, 2013
aurenflani: :-

The North can survive and thrive with ascending development without the oil. Our agriculture and solid minerals will perform the magic even greater than what happened in the past. Our people are better educated and we will not have destabilising forces that are helping to create distrust and hatred amongst us. In fact, the North alone will be the true giant of Africa. undecided

I have no doubt in the potential of the north surviving without oil however this part of ur post made me shiver.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by BANGASOUP1: 10:08am On Jan 18, 2013
Boyoorisha: Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State says Lagos is the only state that can survive if crude oil supply – the mainstay of Nigeria economy- is shut down.

Fashola explained that this was possible because the government in the state had made it a policy to implement the laws on taxation to the letter, which allows it to have funds for capital project.

He spoke on Thursday during the state’s sixth Taxation Stakeholders Conference in Ikeja.

The governor said, “A life without tax is a lie. If they shut down on oil, this is the only state that can survive. Everything that we have done in the past six years was funded by our taxes.

“Since I became governor, I have not made any tax law; only implementing the existing laws on taxation.”

Fashola, however, observed that majority of the state residents had not been paying their taxes, saying the government had started prosecution to achieve higher percentage in tax compliance by residents of the state.

He said, “While our population continues to grow, one cannot see appreciable growth in tax. Our record shows that only three million people are currently paying their taxes against eight million that should pay tax.

“Since we have a population of 20 million people in this state, it means that three million people are carrying the burden of 20 million, instead of eight that should be doing so. In the last four years, we have been doing enlightenment on the need to pay tax; but now, we will prosecute.”

The governor also explained that the government had made a list of the tax regime of the local governments which had been signed into law. He advised residents to acquaint themselves with the law so there would be no confusion.




ok,we don hear

He said his administration had judiciously managed revenue generated to turn the state into a place where everything works.

http://www.punchng.com/news/only-lagos-can-survive-without-oil-fashola/
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by thelastPope(m): 10:10am On Jan 18, 2013
naja2: I laugh in spanish, you guys and ur oil sound like a babe with big br east and ass but without brains. If Nigeria splits today i can assure you that ND will be the worst region after sharia north. Your new country will be ruled Gej, tompolo, alamasegha,uduagan, asari dokubo and even you know that ur people are very lazy and love to enjoy unlike lagosians u guys only came in contact with civilisation in the 80s even at that most of ur "cities" are like villages. Do u know dat switzerland, sweden and south africa has no oil and yet are doin very well. The best thing any nation can pray for is the good human capital and u will agree with me that the SW has this in abundance. I have no doubt that if nigeria splits today SW will be the best in a few years after.

You are making baseless assertions. Societies and culture evolve. You cannot draw a graph of our socities will turn out ust like that. The south east is a good example. The south east had the highest number of people in the military and civil service before the civil war! That changed after the civil war. So go figure! If the Niger Delta went their way, they will evolve. America once fought a civil war remember? Infact, niger Delta has had some of the most educated and enlightened and revolutionary people in Nigeria. Isaac boro, Ken Saro wiwa. The nigeria state turned ND into what it is today. Tompolo et all you talk about are a product of an oppressed ND that was gang ra.p.ed by the collabo of the south west and north!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Delafruita(m): 10:10am On Jan 18, 2013
thelastPope:

Seriously You typed this? You are comparing Jakande estate to festac town? You must be high on alabukun!
yes i typed it.i dont understand whats so significantly different about festac.i lived in festac as a young boy,lived in gowon estate for a while and i really dont understand the difference.true,festac was well planned,but so were jakande's estates.the only hype with festac is the supposed "class" and its been tagged "high brow".festac guys and girls try to "form" big boy or girl.moreover,most of the "beautiful masterpieces" in festac were not part of the plan.individuals buy the land,demolish the house and rebuild their own structure.its only those who hear about festac that still live in that fantasy world of festac been so wooooow.its no different from abesan estate or gowon estate

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Nobody: 10:14am On Jan 18, 2013
thelastPope:

And what exactly is in that pic you posted? You are very funny. What business or industry was in that pic? Businesses don't thrive on grass. They thrive on people. Lagos was capital for like forever? In 1960, ikeja was bush. Only yaba and ikoyi and apapa were developed. Surulere and ikeja started opening up in the 70s. The remaining parts of lagos opened up in the eighties and 90s. So what funny pictue are you posting? Without oil, lagos could not have developed to 1/50 of what it is now. Which Niger delta state can you find a city like festac developed with oil money? If even Bayelsa of Delta had a city like that developed, it would have grown into something else today! You lot are funny!


I want you to tell me where the money used for planting the grass came from since oil was not discovered then ? Mind you,nigeria was amalgamated in 1914 and oil was discovered in 1956 !
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by ideology(m): 10:15am On Jan 18, 2013
He might be right, but if the economy of lag depends on tax, then he shd remember that the tax payers are directly or indirectly connected to oil revenue. a greater percentage of the tax generated comes from oil companies.
for the ports, if not the politics going on, traffic in the lag port will reduce. the one in port harcourt supplies materials mostly for oil and gas companies, then politics made tinapa in calabar not functional since it will shift most importations thru calabar port. tinapa alone can house many industries in lag, but politics saw it that lag will lose revenue from tax they thwarted the growth of tinapa. if not 60% of the companies in lag would have moved to east.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by kingingkinging: 10:15am On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

Ahn ahn!!! Abdulie!!!!!! Akwa Ibom is not doing as half good as Lagos. Don't get it twisted. Comparing Lagos to Akwa Ibom is like comparing Abuja to Nnewi. No be same catigori oo..

Potentially, Akwa Ibom can be like present Lagos but whoever told you Lagos is going to remain as it is now? Mariwo leri, egungun nbo leyin.



Omg!!! LIAR!! WHICH BANKS ARE OWNED BY DELTA IGBOS THAT BANKS OWNED BY YORUBAS ARE NOT BIGGER THAN?

I double dare those banks owned by Delta Igbos to close their branches in Lagos and see if they won't fold up.

You have not been to Lagos. Tell Ben Bruce to go and build his silverbird in Bayelsa and close the Lagos one naa..

You say they pay taxes but don't they make money in Lagos? So they don't make money in Lagos and they'll pay taxes.

No company stationed in Lagos has a plan of leaving in their growth agenda lol.

You are just sipping on hater tonic. How many fucccking companies Niger Deltans get for Lagos wey Yorubas no get bigger ones?? One time you fools want Lagos to be free for all, but y'all quick to call out your sons trained by Lagos to be successful. YES most successful Nigerians need Lagos, Hat some more.

No place in east, North or south will ever be like Lagos. I say that with pride and arrogance. Without Lagos, your successful sons are nothing but civil servants. Lagos brings out the best in you. Other places na dulling una dey.


Your analysis is very perfect:
When Nigeria had 25 banks, about ten (10)of the banks had Yoruba CEO with some other having Yoruba chairmen, only few ones like Oceanic, Zenith, UBA, Fidelity and Finbank were Deltan and Igbo.

People always look for reasons to eaqual Lagos but it can never ever happen. Capital of Nigeria left Lagos since 1992 (21 years ago) yet Lagos is known all over the world more than Abuja. It has been so and so shall it remain.

Lasgidi ilu ogbon, AROMISA LEGBE LEGBE.

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Afam4eva(m): 10:16am On Jan 18, 2013
No state can survive without oil at least for a few years should oil dry up. Every sector in this country is indirectly been run with oil. So, when oil folds up, a lot of businesses will also fold up. The tax that Lagos is talking about, is it not an offshoot of the oil industry?
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by TonySpike: 10:16am On Jan 18, 2013
Mad Cow: Because Oil money already built Lagos!!

FACT: Oil money built everywhere in Nigeria including your state!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Nobody: 10:16am On Jan 18, 2013
Very funny. Just imagine Abuja is no longer the federal capital, they will have a state governor and all political offices will be occupied by indigenous persons. Then the state governor will come and say that Abuja is the only state that can survive without oil. Hahahaha.

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by MusicCafe: 10:19am On Jan 18, 2013
babyosisi:

The guy is being very flippant by that utterance
lagos and other states ought to be thanking the Niger delta daily not pretending as though they could survive without the quarterly Almajiri trips to Abuja
Ingrates
I hope the fed. govt will also stop collecting money from the port and airport...that's Lagos money...
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Truckpusher(m): 10:21am On Jan 18, 2013
naja2: I laugh in spanish, you guys and ur oil sound like a babe with big br east and ass but without brains. If Nigeria splits today i can assure you that ND will be the worst region after sharia north. Your new country will be ruled Gej, tompolo, alamasegha,uduagan, asari dokubo and even you know that ur people are very lazy and love to enjoy unlike lagosians u guys only came in contact with civilisation in the 80s even at that most of ur "cities" are like villages. Do u know dat switzerland, sweden and south africa has no oil and yet are doin very well. The best thing any nation can pray for is the good human capital and u will agree with me that the SW has this in abundance. I have no doubt that if nigeria splits today SW will be the best in a few years after.
Comparing people like GEJ, Uduaghan to all the militant warlords of the Niger delta shows how myopic you are as you keep on having this SW delusion of grandeur when you've not actually made your mark In the InternatIonal stage, for your information people like Asari, Tompolo etc were deliberately unleashed on the criminal Nigerian govt because we were careful not to engage our best minds again after the killing of Kenule Saro Wiwa, Doctor Obi wali and professor Claude Ake just to mention but a few of the best minds we have here, these men engaged the govt in dialogue but nobody was willing to hear them out .
Finally, enjoy while it lasts because like you said we just saw civilization in the 80s, but right now we arm twist you a little we get what we want and you can't still see the bigger picture?...then tell me who's more lazy mentally, mind you grabbing free education and getting yourselves degrees wouldn't amount to being smart...you're just there grin

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by thelastPope(m): 10:23am On Jan 18, 2013
kingingkinging:

Your analysis is very perfect:
When Nigeria had 25 banks, about ten (10)of the banks had Yoruba CEO with some other having Yoruba chairmen, only few ones like Oceanic, Zenith, UBA, Fidelity and Finbank were Deltan and Igbo.

People always look for reasons to eaqual Lagos but it can never ever happen. Capital of Nigeria left Lagos since 1992 (21 years ago) yet Lagos is known all over the world more than Abuja. It has been so and so shall it remain.

Lasgidi ilu ogbon, AROMISA LEGBE LEGBE.

What was the statistic before the civil war?
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by ba7man(m): 10:25am On Jan 18, 2013
Delafruita: yes i typed it.i dont understand whats so significantly different about festac.i lived in festac as a young boy,lived in gowon estate for a while and i really dont understand the difference.true,festac was well planned,but so were jakande's estates.the only hype with festac is the supposed "class" and its been tagged "high brow".festac guys and girls try to "form" big boy or girl.moreover,most of the "beautiful masterpieces" in festac were not part of the plan.individuals buy the land,demolish the house and rebuild their own structure.its only those who hear about festac that still live in that fantasy world of festac been so wooooow.its no different from abesan estate or gowon estate
Noooo Way!!! I strongly disagree with you also as a born and bred in Festac guy. Festac was designed to be self sufficient. It had a post-office, market, water-works, parks, play grounds, sidewalks, underground drains, tree lined avenues, World class zoning and grid plan layout. Its just a shame it is how it is today, but pls, do not make that comparism....even the festac low-cost flats were better than anything Jakande built. Not trying to discredit him though b'cos he was visionary.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by tawa89(f): 10:27am On Jan 18, 2013
0lumide:

It's not a lie. Lagos has done without oil funds for one full term and still did better than other states collecting oil funds.

But we will continue to collect the "oil" funds as long as it is available. More money aint too much money!
. I don't get did u just say that Tinubus' administration did better than Donald Duke's? Nawa oooo
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Truckpusher(m): 10:29am On Jan 18, 2013
J12: Very funny. Just imagine Abuja is no longer the federal capital, they will have a state governor and all political offices will be occupied by indigenous persons. Then the state governor will come and say that Abuja is the only state that can survive without oil. Hahahaha.
you can say that again....this is one reason people like Kenule Saro Wiwa called the Nigerian state 'ungrateful majority leeching on the minority only to turn around and call them lazy people'....smdh
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by kutchs: 10:31am On Jan 18, 2013
~Bluetooth:


Educate yourself before making spurious claims.this issue has been over-flogged on Nl but I'm surprise at your public display of ignorance.this is lagos before the discovery of oil !

https://www.nairaland.com/929914/pictures-lagos-before-crude-oil
Great pics I must say but you failed to point out that all the development as seen in those pics is down to British influence given that Lagos was capital of Nigeria. Calabar or Enugu would be the same where they capital of Nigeria.
In essene bro what am saying is that those wonderful sights have nothing to do with Lagos state govt and doesnt tell us if Lagos would survive without oil revenue or not.

Truth is Lagos cannot and will never survive in an economically distressed Nigeria. Thats impossible and Fashola should stop deceiving you, me think you are too intelligent to buy such bull crap from him.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by thelastPope(m): 10:33am On Jan 18, 2013
ba7man: Noooo Way!!! I strongly disagree with you also as a born and bred in Festac guy. Festac was designed to be self sufficient. It had a post-office, market, water-works, parks, play grounds, sidewalks, underground drains, tree lined avenues, World class zoning and grid plan layout. Its just a shame it is how it is today, but pls, do not make that comparism....even the festac low-cost flats were better than anything Jakande built. Not trying to discredit him though b'cos he was visionary.

Honestly, all the partisan debates and arguments aside, I just didn't know what to answer the guy. I was speechless! His statement was just ridiculous!
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by UnimkeAk(m): 10:34am On Jan 18, 2013
MusicCafe: I hope the fed. govt will also stop collecting money from the port and airport...that's Lagos money...

Port built by the FG... My laff tire gele.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Lamasta(m): 10:37am On Jan 18, 2013
Lagos is the only state in Nigeria that will not survive if tax is cancelled.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by kutchs: 10:38am On Jan 18, 2013
MusicCafe: I hope the fed. govt will also stop collecting money from the port and airport...that's Lagos money...
This post has finally shown who you are, dumb and dull.
MMIA belongs to LAGS?
Apapa, Tin Can etc belongs to LAGS?
I cant believe you mean that rubbish u typed above.
I can name so many facilities in Lagos belonging to the FG which will cripple the economy of Lagos should the FG decides to shut them down. Dont pretend you dont know baby boy.
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Sweetlemon(f): 10:38am On Jan 18, 2013
It's the gospel truth. Lagos CAN and WILL survive without oil money and we all know how and why so no need for explanation.
FYI, I'm a south-southerner from the 2nd or 3rd richest oil producing state in Nigeria so my comment is devoid of tribalism

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by horlatunde(m): 10:39am On Jan 18, 2013
babyosisi: What is he waiting for?
He should set a good example and stop collecting oil money for his state
Walk the walk not just talk the talk
I wonder Y pple like you are finding it difficult to understand simple English. The governor used a conditional clause of "IF" the supply is Shut........ I don't know hw difficult that is 4 u to understand. Even 4rm d oil revenue Self hw much does Lagos earn conpare to Bayelsa whose population is 10times Smaller than lagos. Abeg Appreciate Good things joor

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Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by Demdem(m): 10:42am On Jan 18, 2013
tawa89: . I don't get did u just say that Tinubus' administration did better than Donald Duke's? Nawa oooo

Not that Duke was bad but i prefer Tinubu. Duke had no issues with FG and dump the bulk of his funds on TINAPA which the state is yet to recover from. Tinubu on the otherhand had funds issues from FG but still went ahead to do quite a lot chief of which Fashola is building on. Secondly, both states arent comparable. Both leaders are visionary though
Re: Only Lagos Can Survive Without Oil – Fashola by horlatunde(m): 10:45am On Jan 18, 2013
kutchs:
This post has finally shown who you are, dumb and dull.
MMIA belongs to LAGS?
Apapa, Tin Can etc belongs to LAGS?
I cant believe you mean that rubbish u typed above.
I can name so many facilities in Lagos belonging to the FG which will cripple the economy of Lagos should the FG decides to shut them down. Dont pretend you dont know baby boy.
I equally cannot believe u meant as well that shutting the MMIA will affect lagos and not d FED govt equally the Tin- Can Island in Apapa which is d highest import entry port in nigeria. Brother dis facilities are beneficial to the FG thank d State Govt.

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