texazzpete:

I despise and abhor tribalism and ethnic bias...I thank God that I come from a 'minority' tribe so I don't have to take sides in this inanity.
However, i am firmly convinced that 99% of the other posters here are making these jibes good-naturedly. Many of these yoruba guys here have igbo girlfriends and vice versa for some of our outspoken Igbo brothers.

However, there are a few here that i'm 100% convinced are dead serious in their hatred. Dede1 is the most prominent of these. I will stand against such people...and for now, he will suffice as the face of generational hatred on Nairaland.
I'm taking no sides here. I find Damola's arguments to be quite convincing and if my challenges towards my Igbo brothers here will make their attempts at rebuttals lean more towards logic than insults, all the better.




How the heck is this a 'generalization' or a stereotype (the word i used)? Did I say "all Igbos are coup plotters"?
From the events of that day, the casualties recorded and the key members of the plot, holding a position that the coup was 'Igbo led' or 'had an igbo supremacist agenda' may not be far-fetched.
These refer to the coup plotters and not every man, woman and child of Igbo extraction.

naijababe:

Dede1, what is it with you and half truths! Have you forgotten the part where the same Akinjide on becoming minister found out that close to 80% of the recipients of the federal schorlarship were Igbo? Or the part where Azikiwe chose to foist Dr Anieke - a certificate forger who had erstwhile been forced to resign from U.I as head of the teaching hospital on the same U.I as the chairman of the University's governing council?!

naijababe:

Dede1, what is it with you and half truths! Have you forgotten the part where the same Akinjide on becoming minister found out that close to 80% of the recipients of the federal schorlarship were Igbo? Or the part where Azikiwe chose to foist Dr Anieke - a certificate forger who had erstwhile been forced to resign from U.I as head of the teaching hospital on the same U.I as the chairman of the University's governing council?!

Dede1:


I guess you sounded very unintelligent out of the block with the above post. You have every right to believe anything you want. However, you should also bear in mind that beliefs are not translation of truths or factual facts. It is your cherished headache to dwell on statements from a character such as Richard Akinjide who has been known as a person that could not separate seeds from the chaffs even when his life depended on such endeavor.

texazzpete:

I despise and abhor tribalism and ethnic bias...I thank God that I come from a 'minority' tribe so I don't have to take sides in this inanity.
However, i am firmly convinced that 99% of the other posters here are making these jibes good-naturedly. Many of these yoruba guys here have igbo girlfriends and vice versa for some of our outspoken Igbo brothers.

However, there are a few here that i'm 100% convinced are dead serious in their hatred. Dede1 is the most prominent of these. I will stand against such people...and for now, he will suffice as the face of generational hatred on Nairaland.
I'm taking no sides here. I find Damola's arguments to be quite convincing and if my challenges towards my Igbo brothers here will make their attempts at rebuttals lean more towards logic than insults, all the better.




How the heck is this a 'generalization' or a stereotype (the word i used)? Did I say "all Igbos are coup plotters"?
From the events of that day, the casualties recorded and the key members of the plot, holding a position that the coup was 'Igbo led' or 'had an igbo supremacist agenda' may not be far-fetched.
These refer to the coup plotters and not every man, woman and child of Igbo extraction.

nku5:

I am very happy you dont condone tribalism. My take is you have been convinced by the arguments of the author, many igbo people reading through have reservations about it for obvious reasons. The author without a doubt says it was an "igbo" coup and unless i'm wrong that is a generalisation because he didnt specify that there was a difference between igbo coup plotters and the igbo race. Innocent igbos died in their tens of thousands before the first shot of the war was fired in progroms in 1966 because of these sort of generalisations and as the neutral man you say you are, there is a moral obligation to make this point clear no matter who is speaking igbo or not.

In my opinion, the article takes off with a lot of fancy language and carries on alleging endlessly, depending on the stereotype that already exists about igbos. I didnt see him provide any concrete references for the facts he rolled out . The internet can be used by EVERY type of character (genius liars inclusive)to vent personal opinions to millions like never before.

Duduknight:

I guess she didn't realise that you would ignore the valid points she raised and instead proceed with entertaining us with other 'relevant' information.

Kamanda:

Reading this article just made me so sad.I lost every shred of respect I had for Mr Achebe.

And it's such a terible shame that a Mod on Nigeria's most influential website will reduce himself to an irrational Brainless nitwit out of ethnic bigotry.

If Mr Seun has any sence he should drop that Afam4ever guy as a Mod.Shame.
Waiting for your lousy ban.

texazzpete:

I am happy you understand where I'm coming from.
I am also quite shocked that you say you did not see any concrete facts therein. He quotes Azikiwe and Nwakanma. He provides excerpts from confidential US diplomatic cables. He shows that Achebe's account of meeting that foreign head of state cannot possibly be factual. He punctures Achebe's attempts to dissociate Nzeogwu from the Igbo tribe. He shows how Achebe highlights Igbo suffering and glosses over the suffering of others.

There ARE concrete facts in his article.

Dede1:

Negro nuts,

I shall not get into debate with you and naijababe over Dr Sylvester Anieke because I have grown to understand that any position, in Nigeria especially in Yoruba land, filled with non-Yoruba, the candidate or the person automatically becomes quark and unqualified in the eyes of Yoruba peeps. So the case of Dr Sylvester Anieke as the Chairman in Council (governing council) of University of Ibadan was no exception.

texazzpete:

I am happy you understand where I'm coming from.
I am also quite shocked that you say you did not see any concrete facts therein. He quotes Azikiwe and Nwakanma. He provides excerpts from confidential US diplomatic cables. He shows that Achebe's account of meeting that foreign head of state cannot possibly be factual. He punctures Achebe's attempts to dissociate Nzeogwu from the Igbo tribe. He shows how Achebe highlights Igbo suffering and glosses over the suffering of others.

There ARE concrete facts in his article.

Duduknight:

On this thread, you have tried, in vain I might add, to dispel certain positions which you believe to be false or incorrect. Why stop now? Please tell us why you believe Anieke was not a forger. Was Anieke not appointed by Zik despite having been made to leave his prior appointment at UI in a scandal?

And I am not Negro_ntns.

Dede1:

Negro nuts,

I shall not get into debate with you and naijababe over Dr Sylvester Anieke because I have grown to understand that any position, in Nigeria especially in Yoruba land, filled with non-Yoruba, the candidate or the person automatically becomes quark and unqualified in the eyes of Yoruba peeps. So the case of Dr Sylvester Anieke as the Chairman in Council (governing council) of University of Ibadan was no exception.

Dede1:

Wow!!! Did you write this form of Negro_ntns? You could not be more correct. It must be a coincidental aura.

I guess Prof. Eni Njoku was fraud too. Because it was the same band of tribal irredentists from Yoruba land that wanted VC of Unilag removed because the professor was not the son of soil. When Dr. Sylvester Anieke was a lecturer at UI, he was qualified and not a quark. The moment Dr Sylvester Anieke was elevated to the position of the chairman of the governing council of University of Ibadan, with another Igbo man as VC, his forged certificate was manufactured overnight. Thanks goodness I lived in Yoruba land. I do not fall for your deceit.

Dede1:

Negro nuts,

I shall not get into debate with you and naijababe over Dr Sylvester Anieke because I have grown to understand that any position, in Nigeria especially in Yoruba land, filled with non-Yoruba, the candidate or the person automatically becomes quark and unqualified in the eyes of Yoruba peeps. So the case of Dr Sylvester Anieke as the Chairman in Council (governing council) of University of Ibadan was no exception.

Dudu_Negro:

next time you address my name and leave out "Chief", i will raze your village down. yeye

i have three names, Chief Negro_Ntns; Odua_Negro and Dudu_Negro. the last one is close with DuduKnight but we are different people.

to those trying to educate dede on fair and balance, you are talking to a mute. you will succeed much quicker with relief converting almajiri to catholicism than you would educating dede on truths. biafrans like him earn their living from the continued controversy. the day the controversy ends their paycheck will dry up.

Tony Spike:

Baa mi!

Dede1:

Wow!!! Did you write this form of Negro_ntns? You could not be more correct. It must be a coincidental aura.

I guess Prof. Eni Njoku was fraud too. Because it was the same band of tribal irredentists from Yoruba land that wanted VC of Unilag removed because the professor was not the son of soil. When Dr. Sylvester Anieke was a lecturer at UI, he was qualified and not a quark. The moment Dr Sylvester Anieke was elevated to the position of the chairman of the governing council of University of Ibadan, with another Igbo man as VC, his forged certificate was manufactured overnight. Thanks goodness I lived in Yoruba land. I do not fall for your deceit.

hercules07:

Bros go and read Wole Soyinka's Ibadan the penkelemes years, you will find the story of Anieke there, you will also find Okpara helping the AG when it dawned on him that the NPC were up to no good.

Dudu_Negro:

next time you address my name and leave out "Chief", i will raze your village down. yeye

i have three names, Chief Negro_Ntns; Odua_Negro and Dudu_Negro. the last one is close with DuduKnight but we are different people.

to those trying to educate dede on fair and balance, you are talking to a mute. you will succeed much quicker with relief converting almajiri to catholicism than you would educating dede on truths. biafrans like him earn their living from the continued controversy. the day the controversy ends their paycheck will dry up.

Duduknight:

Don't be silly, haven't you heard that Igbos are the most intelligent folks in the world and hence deserve more than 80% of scholarship beneficiaries? If it were up to me, it would have been 97%. Also, aren't you aware that Anieke's forged certificate was planted by Yoruba Navy seals in a bid to discredit him?

dayokanu:

The coupist who were so on point in every other region suddenly lost their marksmanship and bungled it when in their own region.

Im sure a 5yr old can call bullshiit on that statement

naijababe:


You are absolutely correct! Dede1 just told above that it was manufactured overnight! Me kearn shout

T9ksy:

Can you then explain how come Major Ifeajuna and Major Okafor were having tea with

the same Dr. M.Okpara, who was supposed to have escaped their coup plot, at 14:15 on jan 15th 1966?

I have a funny feeling you have finally make good on your promise and finally visited your g/mother's

library in your village

Dede1:

This local pathological liar and master of illogical conjectures has done it again. Did you serve the tea?

At the Yaba Military Hospital they dropped 2/Lt Ezedigbo who had been wounded in the encounter with Brigadier Mai-Malari. The time was about 0400 hrs. Major Ifeajuna drove away on to the Abeokuta road. On the way they stopped and Ifeajuna asked the PM out of the car whence he shot and killed him. When he and Okafor became certain that the PM was dead they left the body in the bush at a point beyond Otta on the Lagos to Abeokuta road. They then opened the boot of the car and dropped the body of Lt.Col. Largema near that of the PM.

They then drove on to Abeokuta. On the way after Abeokuta two other soldiers in the car were dropped and told to find their way back to Lagos whilst Ifeajuna and Okafor proceeded to Enugu. They arrived Enugu at about 1415 hours and proceeded to the Premier's Lodge where they held discussion with Dr. MI Okpara, then Premier of Eastern region, after which they separated and went into hiding. Ifeajuna eventually escaped to Ghana where he was received by the former President Kwame Nkrumah who sent him to
Winneba to stay with SG Ikoku.

T9ksy:

I thought the title in bold is your exclusoive reserve.

No, i didn't, did you?




At the Yaba Military Hospital they dropped 2/Lt Ezedigbo who had been wounded in the encounter with Brigadier Mai-Malari. The time was about 0400 hrs. Major Ifeajuna drove away on to the Abeokuta road. On the way they stopped and Ifeajuna asked the PM out of the car whence he shot and killed him. When he and Okafor became certain that the PM was dead they left the body in the bush at a point beyond Otta on the Lagos to Abeokuta road. They then opened the boot of the car and dropped the body of Lt.Col. Largema near that of the PM.

They then drove on to Abeokuta. On the way after Abeokuta two other soldiers in the car were dropped and told to find their way back to Lagos whilst Ifeajuna and Okafor proceeded to Enugu. They arrived Enugu at about 1415 hours and proceeded to the Premier's Lodge where they held discussion with Dr. MI Okpara, then Premier of Eastern region, after which they separated and went into hiding. Ifeajuna eventually escaped to Ghana where he was received by the former President Kwame Nkrumah who sent him to
Winneba to stay with SG Ikoku.


http://www.omoigui.com/2004/09/strongleaked_po.html

Dede1:


It is good to see you did not disappoint with above post. When I asked if you did serve the tea, I had in mind you have been hanging out with Nowa Omoigui and my postulation is impeccably correct.

Leaked [Police] Special Branch Report: "Military Rebellion of 15th January 1966"

By Nowamagbe Omoigui, MD, MPH, FACC



This is the Police Report on the official investigation into the coup of 15 January 1966. It was prepared by Police Special Branch Interrogators based on interviews with soldiers, other ranks and some officers who had been arrested after the mutiny.

Dede1:


Bros, I knew about the coalition formed between NCNC and AG. It was not just Okpara. Even the plan to quench the miserable life of Awolowo in Nigerian prisons in Bauchi was thwarted.

As for the case of “The Penkelemes Years: A memoir by Wole Soyinka, I shall not bother to read it because of the respect I have for Wole.

However, Dr Sylvester Anieke was no quark or fraud but caught in the usual tribal politics of Nigeria. If Dr Sylvester Anieke was Yoruba, this instance would not have arisen. Besides, what were the qualifications of Dr. Biabiaku(sp) who became VC of Unlig?

hercules07:

He was not what he claimed to be, he was not a quark but a fraud, Soyinka told it as it was; by the way the NCNC had no choice, its plans to conquer the west was thwarted by Akintola. Dr. Biobaku was probably appointed to balance things, remember the NPC and Akintola were running things and they both hated Igbo guts.

hercules07:

He was not what he claimed to be, he was not a quark but a fraud, Soyinka told it as it was; by the way the NCNC had no choice, its plans to conquer the west was thwarted by Akintola. Dr. Biobaku was probably appointed to balance things, remember the NPC and Akintola were running things and they both hated Igbo guts.