So even in America, there is this dirty "Religious Politics"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/13/barackobama.hillaryclinton

Well, he will have to deal with that too.  What a pastor.  In as much as I do not believe in guilty by association. I wonder how he would have gone to a church that preaches these kinds of things for over 20 years.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!  Much ado about nothing really.  But knowing "white" Americans. . .they will definitely milk this one.  I personally will never allow any person to preach to me unless we have the same views.  I really do not know what to make of this. Well let us hear what he has to say or write about this.

Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.  I wish him well!

It could go either way.

Its funny how he's being judged by everything around him. His background, school/lived in indonesia, and so on!
At first they said he's a muslim and now he's being one church member for over 20yrs!

Politics is one dirty game! I won't be surprise is they come out and say "He's just too black for the white house"

Obama will still get out of this tight corner been placed on him by his Pastor. Anything can still go as far as politics is concerned.

Pure absolute balderdash!

What do those closet racist want Obama to do? Switch church anytime the pastor says anything bad about America? Rubbish!!!

America was founded on the evil practice of slavery and many of those so-called founding fathers of America were slave owners! Rubbish! So, if some pastor says this then what? White America needs to wake up from their stupid slumber if they think the 400-year-old scars of slavery, racism, and discrimination will just vanish overnight. The oppressed have every right to be angry about their state of oppression. What were these people thinking? That Obama has been "shielded" from the realities of the racist aspects of America? Nonsense!

All those pretenders who keep shouting "separation of Church and State", should remember that tired slogan now!

Inasmuch as I don't fancy the way Rev. Wright went about delivering that "sermon" - lets be real, a lotta what he said is true, though I did disagree with a good portion of it too.

  This is a no-win situation for Obama. So poster you should change the title to "Obama Faces Definate Damage From His Pastor's Comments"

   Becos if he completely denounces his church and totally contradicts his pastor (or ex-pastor) he will lose the support and admiration of a large percentage of blacks/african-americans who in reality hold the same (or some of the) views of the pastor.
   On the other hand, if he doesn't completely distance himself from wright, white america will not continue to embrace him as "one of theirs".
  A no-win situation. . . but maybe he might be able to assuage the plantation white america with his speech today , we'll see. I haven't run into too many black people who are upset at Rev Wright . . . dost thou wonder why?

Now this is a tight one.

The Pastor na real Alakoba. . . .

Akoba Adaba Olorun ma je ka ri oo

The fact remains that Obama has run his campaign on the basis that he is a uniter who transcends racial and identity politics.Yet,here you find Obama joining and attending a church that thrives on racial polarisation.

The Rev,who he calls his spiritual mentor,produces vile sermons that are unbecoming of a Christian clergy man.What is Christian clergy man doing with Louis Farrakhan? Claiming that the AIDS virus was produced by white America and
all sorts of kooky nonsense.

If Obama wants to be a Black leader in the mold of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson,he is free to belong to any church he wants to.However,if he wants to be the leader of America,you can't belong to an organisation that thrives on racial/identity politics.

I got ur back Obama. . . . .Do not worry. . .fear no evil. .

I think he has already distanced himself from the comments his pastor made. Hey but at least with this, no one still thinks he is M'uslim.

JayFK:

I think he has already distanced himself from the comments his pastor made. Hey but at least with this, no one still thinks he is M'uslim.

Distancing himself isn't sufficient.He said this man is his spiritual mentor and personally decided to join this particular church.Does it mean that for those 2 decades,he wasn't aware of the Pastor's incendiary remarks?

It is said that he named his book,The Audacity of Hope ,after one of Rev Wright's speeches.All of a sudden,he is seeking distance now that the Rev's remarks have been exposed.

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Distancing himself isn't sufficient.He said this man is his spiritual mentor and personally decided to join this particular church.Does it mean that for those 2 decades,he wasn't aware of the Pastor's incendiary remarks?

It is said that he named his book,The Audacity of Hope ,after one of Rev Wright's speeches.All of a sudden,he is seeking distance now that the Rev's remarks have been exposed.

I dont think his pastor's comments were a recurring theme in his preachings, they were just made on one occasion. I think he said he wasn't aware his pastor made such remarks.

did anyone check out his speech?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_RACE?SITE=WTKKFM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-03-18-11-16-31

I guess I was wrong to say it was a no-win situation!
I think he did a great job of pedalling to both sides and he made it clear that he wasn't turning his back "or distancing" himself from the church or his pastor. Good speech, it should calm a lot of the furor down and hopefully help in both sides understanding each other better.

JeSoul:

did anyone check out his speech?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_RACE?SITE=WTKKFM&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-03-18-11-16-31

I guess I was wrong to say it was a no-win situation!
I think he did a great job of pedalling to both sides and he made it clear that he wasn't turning his back "or distancing" himself from the church or his pastor. Good speech, it should calm a lot of the furor down and hopefully help in both sides understanding each other better.

Excellent speech by Obama! Stand by your church! Stand by your pastor! That does not mean agreeing with every comment made by the pastor.

GObama '08!!!

Hmm. . . . .


This man looks like he could sell sand to Sahara dwellers

Am really fed up of all these accussations and making NEWS out of nothing

The next thing we will hear soon is

OBAMA'S DOG BITE SOMEONE 20YEARS AGO
or

OBAMA URINATED ON HIS BED WHEN HE WAS A KID

or

OBAMA MISSED ONE OF HIS LECTURES DURING HIS SCHOOL DAYS

the clinton team is running out of ideas

it's when he wins the nomination that Mccain and co will throw this back in his face, just wait

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.Does it mean that for those 2 decades,he wasn't aware of the Pastor's incendiary remarks?

hahahha.

anyway his speech might be fine now for opeople to still be against Hiliary but once she's ouyt of the picture, it'll come up again.

I don't think his pastor's comments were a recurring theme in his preachings, they were just made on one occasion. I think he said he wasn't aware his pastor made such remarks.

they weren't made on one compassion, u need to check out the pastors interview on hannity&colmes. the statements stretch 10years. obama must have been dozing off or romancing with michelle obama while in church.

bawomolo:

they weren't made on one compassion, u need to check out the pastors interview on hannity&colmes. the statements stretch 10years. obama must have been dozing off or romancing with michelle obama while in church.

Meh, anyways Obama has set the record straight that he doesn't agree with his pastor's statements. So its all good.

bawomolo:

they weren't made on one compassion, u need to check out the pastors interview on hannity&colmes. the statements stretch 10years. obama must have been dozing off or romancing with michelle obama while in church.

Well he did admit he has heard on many occasions things he disagreed with his pastor


But hearing his speech. . . . .He reminds me so much of Churchill for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on why

pls can anyone summarise his speech this morning?

doyin13:

Well he did admit he has heard on many occasions things he disagreed with his pastor on.


But hearing his speech. . . . .He reminds me so much of Churchill for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on why

Churchill was a brave straight-talker.This guy is a smarmy pol who thrives on being all things to all people.

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Churchill was a brave straight-talker.This guy is a smarmy pol who thrives on being all things to all people.

I meant his speech making

doyin13:

I meant his speech making

That was what I was referring to.Churchill's speeches had substance and he often didn't mind whose ox was gored.

Obama's best quotes come from speeches or soundbites written for him. Churchill was naturally gifted with wit.

Good speech from the summary.
I suppose the anti-Obama bandwagon are back in full force.

doyin13:

I meant his speech making

Obama sounds very much like Ronald Reagan, and that gives me the chills.

JayFK:

Obama sounds very much like Ronald Reagan, and that gives me the chills.

WTF? Obama doesn't even sound a tad like Reagan!

obama just lost the race!

Read the whole speech here.

No summary
http://naijanet.com/news/source/2008/mar/18/1000.html

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That was what I was referring to.Churchill's speeches had substance and he often didn't mind whose ox was gored.

Obama's best quotes come from speeches or soundbites written for him. Churchill was naturally gifted with wit.

Like I said I can't quite put a finger on it. . .it is more on the delivery of the speech i suppose

Obviously contexts are contexts apart. . . .


Talking of Churchill. . . .he was witty alright. My fave to Lady Astor

"Sir, you're drunk!"

"Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly."

doyin13:

Talking of Churchill. . . .he was witty alright. My fave to Lady Astor

"Sir, you're drunk!"

"Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly."

No mind Churchill.Lady Astor wasn't that ugly. http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:1NqAtNfMLnwJ:jssgallery.org/Paintings/Lady_Astor.htm+Churchill+to+Lady+Astor&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=uk

There was another witty exchange with her:

Lady Astor said, "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." Whereupon Winston said, "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it."