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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by ELgordo(m): 4:52pm On Feb 20, 2013
Damn! I hate to be the Judge buh its like that white dude killed the white purrtty lady . . . He's a cold KILLA!
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Josh316(m): 4:53pm On Feb 20, 2013
freecocoa: Wait o, he has no legs does that mean his girlfriend was safe if it was really a case of burglary that would make him forget they were two in the house? He must really be a selfish person and the gun would be in the bedroom joor let's be real.

Coogar be honest, you were with a woman you loved in the house and an intruder came, what would you do?

I don't quite understand the your last paragraph, he knew she was in the bathroom and still shot?

God bless your brain cells... grin

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by obitrac: 4:54pm On Feb 20, 2013
As for me oh,wether he shot her intentionally or not,he must go to jail at least to compensate d families of d girl for taking away thier loved one and to prove he truly loved her afterall some people toasts include:I can go to jail for ur sake
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by RICHIEBOI1(m): 4:55pm On Feb 20, 2013
slim poppa: Its nothing but premeditated murder.
He woke up, didn't bother to check the woman sleeping beside him, put on his prosthetic legs, armed himself and went towards the bathroom and fired four shots. He didn't also hear scream from the bathroom, went back to the room only for him to discover that the woman wasn't there. He's a POOR LIAR.
Witnesses testified they heard loud arguements followed by gunshots, loud scream and more shots seventeen minutes later.
He killed that woman intentionally. Forget!

You go fear some forensic experts for NL grin. this guy story just doesn't add up. some grey areas and holes in his story. a well orchestrated one i must say.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Josh316(m): 4:57pm On Feb 20, 2013
that there was no urine in her bladder at 3am suggests pistorious' story was correct that she was in the bathroom. humans would normally have urine in their bladder at 3am - the only puzzle is if he pulled the trigger intentionally or accidentally....

Two things;

1. Either there was a burglar truly, and she ran to the bathroom and abandoned her dear physically challenged boyfriend to his fate meaning she was selfish and wicked or planned the whole thing to eliminate him (i doubt this but in nollywood it happens) or...

2. He is lying! He shot her the first time and he missed and she ran to take refuge and he decided to shoot her through the door to pull through his ready made story.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Chinwem(f): 4:57pm On Feb 20, 2013
Too bad for Oscar.
He's lost it all, even if acquitted, the court of public opinion finds him guilty.

The police said they found teStosterone injections in his house. That doesn't do much for his credibility right now.

How do you blow your life away like that? Prison is bad enough for those with 2 legs talkless of a double amputee.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by coogar: 4:57pm On Feb 20, 2013
Lord_Reed:
Please post a link.

this was the court proceedings today....

@SmithInAfrica: Botha: Witness heard "two to three" shots, saw lights on, then 17 minutes later heard "two to three" more shots.

@SmithInAfrica: Roux: Did witness say she heard it was Pistorius or Steenkamp talking between 2 and 3am? Botha: She did not. It sounded like an argument.

@SmithInAfrica: Botha: The witness's house is about 600-odd metres away from Pistorius. Gasp from Pistorius family. Botha: "She said it under oath."

@BBCAndrewH: Again Botha struggling on "argument" at pistorius home heard by witness. Admits woman's house was 600 m away. Gasps in court.
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botha is the investigating officer
roux is the defence lawyer

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by dare2think: 4:58pm On Feb 20, 2013
ItsModella:
He's INNOCENT until proven guilty...go figure!!

No need to figure a judicial cliche undecided


I presume people are just reacting to the question put forward by the Op

whealthy:

If found guilty at trial, Pistorius faces a life sentence.
What do you think? Premeditated murder or not?
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by freecocoa(f): 5:01pm On Feb 20, 2013
chukkynwob: Sincerely if my girlfriend was in bed with me and I suspect the house is being burgled the 1st thing to do LOGICALLY

1. Grab my piece
2.Ascertain the relative position of my girlfriend so she won't be cut in the crossfire that might ensue.
3.Warn the intruder that I am armed
4. Fire awayyyyy!!!!

Personally I think the evidence and circumstances against Oscar suggests premeditated murder.I don't believe his story.

He is still assumed innocent until proven guilty,for it is better to let 1000 guilty people free,that to wrongly convict an innocent man
Thank You.

I remember our neighbor back then in Abuja, robbers came to his house, before they could get to where he was, he brought out his gun, warned that he was armed and fired into the air through his bedroom balcony and the robbers ran away.

I mean its not logical to fire shots without knowing the location of the people you are at home with.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by JMystique(m): 5:02pm On Feb 20, 2013
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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by dare2think: 5:04pm On Feb 20, 2013
RICHIE BOI:

You go fear some forensic experts for NL grin. this guy story just doesn't add up. some grey areas and holes in his story. a well orchestrated one i must say.

I disagree with the bold.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by coogar: 5:05pm On Feb 20, 2013
Lord_Reed:
Please post a link.
Look at this pix of Pistorius' house:

[img]http://static.independent.ie/incoming/article29078253.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/pistorius-house.jpg[/img]

You can see it flanked by 2 other houses. So how can his neighbours be 600m away?

and what makes you think the neighbours staying close to pistorious were the ones that gave the witness account to the police? why do nigerians like assuming? the witness account discussed in court today stayed 600 metres away.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by obitrac: 5:06pm On Feb 20, 2013
Maybe he had once promised her with some love toast like he can go to jail for her sake. So itz time to fulfill d promise.He shld just tell d judge;guilty or not,I want to go to jail
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by freecocoa(f): 5:06pm On Feb 20, 2013
Josh316:

God bless your brain cells... grin
Amen grin.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Feb 20, 2013
Afam4eva:
You can only not believe him if you were there when it happened. He's innocent until proven otherwise. It's because of this reason that there's jungle justice in Nigeria because instead of finding out if someone is innocent or guilty, you just rush the person chanting kill am, catch am, die.

why? following your logic, i can only believe him if i was there as well
not believing and judging are 2 different things.
"i do not believe him" is different from saying "he is guilty"
in order to convince, he need to bring some evidence on the table
even the judge who will be in charge of the case have an initial opinion, still he wasnt there during the crime
and his decision would be based on further evidence, not on the fact of if "he was there or not"
somebody also said on this thread "the neighboor were lying about hearing screams from his house"
this person already judged the neighboors as liar
again did he need to be there before giving his opinion as well? no

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Feb 20, 2013
ELgordo: Damn! I hate to be the Judge buh its like that white dude killed the white purrtty lady . . . He's a cold KILLA!

Well, it seems he shot her, but it is for the trial to determine the circumstances. I don't know how many grades of unlawful killings, or their exact definitions of each, there are in South African law, between the highest, 'Premeditated murder', which he is charged with at present, down to manslaughter, causing death by negligence, etc
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by hardbody: 5:11pm On Feb 20, 2013
freecocoa: Agreed, it may have been pitch dark and he might have thought she was in bed.

Now a man with someone in the house, not just anyone but his girlfriend o, hears a sound in the bathroom, suspects burglary and he goes shooting without alerting his woman?

I'd like to think that what any normal person would do then is, tell whoever you are at home with to be on the alert or possibly go into hiding, before going on a shooting spree.

Now since there was no urine in her bladder, what was she doing in the bathroom? I'm tempted to believe a version of this story that says he pursued her there. No?

I recall you guys were claiming they had some misunderstanding shortly before the shooting? If that is true, would they have reconciled enough for him to start talking to her about movements in the bathroom? How large is teh bed? if in the heat of the argument they had chosen for each to occupy one end of the bed, chances remain that they will be no body touch, so he could justifiably assume the woman was lying down there......

Several options and loopholes a brilliant attorney can explore
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Smuthx(m): 5:12pm On Feb 20, 2013
lets look at some of the points for and against him. you can include yours.

for Pistorius ase

1. I love my girlfriend very much so why will I want to kill her.

2. I heard noise from the bathroom in the house. I thought it was a thief that broke into the house around 4 am. ( the place was dark)

3. I brought out my gun and shot 3 to 5 times at the direction of the bathroom door where the noise was coming from.

4. when I notice I shot my girlfriend. I carry her downstairs while she was bleeding seriously, I called my friend (dont know his name but you can research for it) I told him I have made a mistake and shot my gf. His friend was the 1st person he called, not the police or medical service.

5. when He dial the police. and they came, he said he mistakely shot her thinking it was a robber that came to rob him.

Against Pistorius

1. He lives in high state area of south africa where the rich people live.so thete is good enough security in that area.

2. His girlfriend lives with him.

3. He hears noise coming from the bathroom. His immediate thought it may be a robber. If a thief wants to rob a house will he enter through the window of a bathroom. He didnt hear noise of breaking of glasses and there is no evidence of entry through the window.

4. He shot through the bathroom door hitting her 3 times.

5. The neighbours heard arguments between him and his gf around 2am
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by coogar: 5:13pm On Feb 20, 2013
freecocoa: Wait o, he has no legs does that mean his girlfriend was safe if it was really a case of burglary that would make him forget they were two in the house? He must really be a selfish person and the gun would be in the bedroom joor let's be real.

i don't work with assumptions - you are clearly assuming the gun was in the bedroom - something you are not sure of. if the gun was in the bedroom, how did he find the gun when he already explained the room was dark? he could find a gun in the bedroom and yet he couldn't tell if his girlfriend was there? freecocoa, you really think the gun would be in the bedroom? seriously - you need yoghurt.


Coogar be honest, you were with a woman you loved in the house and an intruder came, what would you do?

i doubt anyone would accurately tell you what they would do in this situation. unless you have been placed in the situation, forget this question. besides, that you would choose another method to deal with the situation does not mean your twin sister would do the same. people react differently to emergency situations!


I don't quite understand your last paragraph, he knew she was in the bathroom and still shot?

i am saying the autopsy report said the girlfriend had no urine in her bladder which is contrary to what the prosecution is saying. if pistorious chased her girlfriend into the bathroom before shooting her at 3am then she should have urine in her bladder, no?
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by dare2think: 5:16pm On Feb 20, 2013
Sybellah:

why? following your logic, i can only believe him if i was there as well
not believing and judging are 2 different things.
"i do not believe him" is different from saying "he is guilty"
in order to convince, he need to bring some evidence on the table
even the judge who will be in charge of the case have an initial opinion, still he wasnt there during the crime
and his decision would be based on further evidence, not on the fact of if "he was there or not"
somebody also said on this thread "the neighboor were lying about hearing screams from his house"
this person already judged the neighboors as liar
again did he need to be there before giving his opinion as well? no


Very correct!

Dont Understand the reasoning MO of some folks here??

Like they hold the exclusive monopoly to opinions!!

undecided

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Paentera(m): 5:20pm On Feb 20, 2013
When I learned of this defence, my first question was this, if I was in his shoes, would I shoot at a noise coming out of my toilet at 4am? My answer would be no way. Especially if the "intruder" did not fire first. On the other hand, consider that the toilet was locked from inside, and a bat used to break it open, how could he have confirmed that whoever was inside wanted to harm him and for what reason?

We all know he killed his girlfriend, his reason is just what is being argued in court. It is such a sad time for those who look up to sports persons as role models but who come short. First it was Lance Armstrong, now its Oscar Pistorious, what a shame.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by coogar: 5:21pm On Feb 20, 2013
Sybellah:

why? following your logic, i can only believe him if i was there as well
not believing and judging are 2 different things.
"i do not believe him" is different from saying "he is guilty"
in order to convince, he need to bring some evidence on the table
even the judge who will be in charge of the case have an initial opinion, still he wasnt there during the crime
and his decision would be based on further evidence, not on the fact of if "he was there or not"
somebody also said on this thread "the neighboor were lying about hearing screams from his house"
this person already judged the neighboors as liar
again did he need to be there before giving his opinion as well? no

of course, the so-called neighbours are bearing false witness.
in court today, the police officer in charge confirmed the neighbours lived 600m away and the number of shots they claimed they heard was not consistent with the actual fact. only 4 shots were fired, the neighbour lied under the oath that it was 6. 600m is more than half a kilometre - there's no way arguments can be heard from that distance.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by andyanders: 5:26pm On Feb 20, 2013
Pistorious has no excuse at all to say he mistook the victim to be an intruder when he knew it was only two of them in the house as at the time he said he mistook the person to be an intruder. He has n explanation to do. How can he kill an unarmed lady and started crying only when he was arrested? That goes to show that he is a complete fool and should not be given any sympathy. He knew what he was doing= Jealousy. He was too possessive hence his action.
I believed that he must have been having an argument with the lady, he used the baseball bat to heat her and she rushed into the toilet. He now went for his gun and shot her 4 times.
In fact, this has taught me something in life and that is never to love out of sympathy as you will end up regretting it. This lady loved him out of sympathy and ended up paying with her life.

Another lesson is never we blame God the way he created us because He has reasons for every of the creature He made. This man never took his state of health into consideration and thank God for helping him to be who he is, but ended up allowing devil to use him.
Pistorious came with a disability, the world stood by him and this lady gave her life to him despite his state of health and he ended up showing the world who he is and as such, must also be given the maximum sentence for his action.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by coogar: 5:34pm On Feb 20, 2013
andyanders: Pistorious has no excuse at all to say he mistook her to be an intruder when he knew it was only two of them in the house as at the time he said he mistook the person to be an intruder. He has n explanation to do. How can he kill an unarmed lady and started crying only when he was arrested? That goes to show that he is a complete fool and should not be given any sympathy. He knew what he was doing= Jealousy. He was too possessive hence his action.
I believed that he must have been having an argument with the lady, he used the baseball bat to heat her and she rushed into the toilet. He now went for his gun and shot her 4 times.
In fact, this has taught me something in life and that is never to love out of sympathy as you will end up regretting it. This lady loved him out of sympathy and ended up paying with her life.

Another lesson is never we blame God the way he created us because He has reasons for every of the creature He made. This man never took his state of health into consideration and thank God for helping him to be who he is, but ended up allowing devil to use him.
Pistorious came with a disability, the world stood by him and this lady gave her life to him despite his state of health and he ended up showing the world who he is and as such, must also be given the maximum sentence for his action.

except that the autopsy has been done and there was no single sign of assault on the body of the girlfriend. if you are not an eye witness, you are a lie witness. repent and delete the nonsense you typed above.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Feb 20, 2013
He did it!!!!

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by Nobody: 5:40pm On Feb 20, 2013
iyabde: He did it!!!!

The fact they charged him with premeditated murder rather than involuntary manslaughter means there is a LOT more to the story than has been made public. If the initial evidence showed that it could have been an accident, he should have been charged with manslaughter, not murder. We'll have to wait to see what other evidence is released publicly!
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by true2god: 5:40pm On Feb 20, 2013
coogar: his explanation makes loads of sense......
this is why he's likely to be bailed tomorrow when the court proceeds. he's disabled and he was without his prostheses when he got up in the night to close the windows. a man without his artificial legs who perceives there's an intruder in his house would feel vulnerable. getting his gun and shooting is very reasonable!
Summary: nonsense.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by rareman(m): 5:41pm On Feb 20, 2013
but why? What is his motive? I don't want to be seen defending the indefendable. I had similar experience last year, armed robber broke into my apartment through d bathroom window. Now imagine what I would have done if I had a gun that night, I would have fired blindly @ d door knowing fully well that all my family in same room with though my niece was in another room.
This guy might have a case afterall.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by andyanders: 5:42pm On Feb 20, 2013
coogar:

except that the autopsy has been done and there was no single sign of assault on the body of the girlfriend. if you are not an eye witness, you are a lie witness. repent and delete the nonsense you typed above.

A baseball bat was used on her because they recovered blood stained baseball bat

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Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by freecocoa(f): 5:42pm On Feb 20, 2013
coogar:

i don't work with assumptions - you are clearly assuming the gun was in the bedroom - something you are not sure of. if the gun was in the bedroom, how did he find the gun when he already explained the room was dark? he could find a gun in the bedroom and yet he couldn't tell if his girlfriend was there? freecocoa, you really think the gun would be in the bedroom? seriously - you need yoghurt.



i doubt anyone would accurately tell you what they would do in this situation. unless you have been placed in the situation, forget this question. besides, that you would choose another method to deal with the situation does not mean your twin sister would do the same. people react differently to emergency situations!



i am saying the autopsy report said the girlfriend had no urine in her bladder which is contrary to what the prosecution is saying. if pistorious chased her girlfriend into the bathroom before shooting her at 3am then she should have urine in her bladder, no?
I won't mind some yogurt as its my favorite drink tongue.

Ahn ahn, we are all assuming na, even the lawyers sef would do some assuming before his fate would be decided. You are the one who said the room was pitch dark and I just agreed to avoid unnecessary arguments seeing that there's already a lot to argue about, now a room, your room being pitch dark doesn't mean you can't tell where certain things are like your drawer duh! *rolls eyes*

People react differently doesn't mean you'd go on a shooting spree without reasoning, unless this guy is mental.

If he chased, then she was running away from him not to go and pee.
Re: What Do You Think Of Oscar Pistorious' Explanation? by ochallo: 5:45pm On Feb 20, 2013
freecocoa: As far as I'm concerned, his excuse doesn't make enough sense.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

-You got up to close window or whatever.

-Closed the window and was going back to bed then heard some noise.

-Went back to the room to get your gun.

-Went straight to the bathroom and fired 4 shots.

Now how can someone go to get his gun from the bed and not notice his girl wasn't there?

When he shot, didn't she shout or something?

I have too many questions but I don taya joor.

As a man if you hear the sound of an intruder, the first thing you do is gather everyone in the house with you around and behind you, then you go towards the intruder, you don't assume your girlfriend is sleeping then fire 4 shots at the intruder, and your girlfriend didn;t wake up after the first shot that even the neighbours heard. This guy should be punished for lying even after someone is dead, no remorse, still trying to cover up , it shows he is long gone.

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