For a group of people to bring themselves together,sharing ideas and even addressing themselves by a name(atheism) shows that a new religion has been formed.whether atheism is the lack of belief in a god or not,it is still a religion as long as u hide under that umbrella or cherish a fellow atheist just like other religions do to their fellows.
An advice to atheist:if u dont believe in a god,leave those that do and stop luring them to your side.

oya logicboy,ooman,manmustwacc,advocate666 etc make una start to dey pour saliva on this wan

All those soo called atheist are all anti christ! Jesus is alive. Thank you

oh yea?

missionary style is also a form of abstinence

This is actually how stupid what you just said sounds. I hope you are clever enough to connect the dots

Good morning Seg,

I don't think Atheism is meant to be practiced as a religion but the way some individuals practice it, you can't help but say: this guy is into religion.

Atheism is not a religion, religions are not formed based on the lack of belief in a god. I am both irreligious & non religious. Checkout the definitions for both words here
irreligious : neglectful of religion : lacking religious emotions, doctrines, or practices <so irreligious that they exploit popular religion for professional purposes — G. B. Sh

nonreligious lacking religious emotions, principles, or practices <grew up in a nonreligious family>

^^^ Una fit protest till kingdom come, evangelical atheism is now a religion. Even some atheists acknowledge it, including some evangelical atheists themselves.

Atheism's a religion? Wow, that's new..

AA's also a binge drinking group..

Enigma: ^^^ Una fit protest till kingdom come, evangelical atheism is now a religion. Even some atheists acknowledge it, including some evangelical atheists themselves.

Christianity doesn't need 'evangelical' to qualify it as a religion.

:-P

musKeeto:
Christianity doesn't need 'evangelical' to qualify it as a religion.

:-P

Evangelical atheism?

What next?

Evangelical agnosticism?


This is why I hve stopped arguing on NL. I realise that some desperate and ignorant people who have realised that they have no agruments for their religion and cant argue logically against atheism are looking for straw men/troll tactics to win.

Evangelical atheism is an oxymoron for those who are rational. One can only be evangelical about a religion/faith which atheism is not and for the most time, opposed to since most religions believe in a god. It is quite a circular argument to say atheism is a religion because it can be evangelical (which it even cant).

mirror false argument- God is real because he exists.

As Fela talk am: looku and laughu!

Evangelical atheism (to be more precise) has long been established to be a religion.

Some even use the broader "atheism" as with the American Court of Appeal and Supreme Court (among others) who ruled that atheism is a religion.

Muskeeto, I need you here, please

https://www.nairaland.com/1206348/logicboys-letter-anony-enigma-frosbel

Enigma: ^^^ Una fit protest till kingdom come, evangelical atheism is now a religion. Even some atheists acknowledge it, including some evangelical atheists themselves.

help me tell them

Enigma: As Fela talk am: looku and laughu!

Evangelical atheism (to be more precise) has long been established to be a religion.

Some even use the broader "atheism" as with the American Court of Appeal and Supreme Court (among others) who ruled that atheism is a religion.

help me tell dem o

Logicboy03:

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minus x2 because logicboy is still on the thread;if he decides to go,then it means d truth has hit him

For those of you who hate 'definitionism', close your eyes and don't read this post.

It all depends on what you mean by Religion. There are many different definitions of Religion. To many people Religion just means a system of Belief. I once got into a discussion with someone and their proof was that in German language Religion is translated as Glauben which simply means belief. I was stumped. Even in yoruba it is Igbagbo which also means belief.

By this definition whatever you believe is your religion. Communism too would be a religion. Theory of Evolution-ism would be a religion.

What I personally mean when I talk about Religion is a set of practices and disciplines that brings reconciliation to a fractured existence. It involves the belief that there is a rift between a person and his God, a person and his environment, an aspect of a person and the rest of his being, etc And this belief is followed by practices that seek to heal the rift.

By this definition Atheism is not and can never be a religion. And many so called religious people whose religion revolves around a set of doctrines which you either accept or reject are in my opinion NOT religious at all. By this definition the christianity of many is not a religion at all. While the practicing Atheist Buddhist is practicing a religion.

[size=50pt]all Evangelical Theists are therefore DEBUNKED by a Lagos State High Court Ruling! [/size]

Enigma: As Fela talk am: looku and laughu!

Evangelical atheism (to be more precise) has long been established to be a religion.

Some even use the broader "atheism" as with the American Court of Appeal and Supreme Court (among others) who ruled that atheism is a religion.

For tax purposes only. In the US religious organizations are exempt from paying taxes, so some atheist organizations, desiring the same tax-exempt status as religious organizations, requested to have the status of a religion. That's all. If people who have some common religious belief can form as organization that collects money and then pays no taxes, than atheists deserve the same.

onetrack:

For tax purposes only. In the US religious organizations are exempt from paying taxes, so some atheist organizations, desiring the same tax-exempt status as religious organizations, requested to have the status of a religion. That's all. If people who have some common religious belief can form as organization that collects money and then pays no taxes, than atheists deserve the same.

Chei, these lawyers get sense o! Them know how to find loop hole and technicalities, and to take language somersault. What a shame say these skills no dey avail person for religion or spiritual reality.

onetrack:

For tax purposes only. In the US religious organizations are exempt from paying taxes, so some atheist organizations, desiring the same tax-exempt status as religious organizations, requested to have the status of a religion. That's all. If people who have some common religious belief can form as organization that collects money and then pays no taxes, than atheists deserve the same.

Nah, mate! That is entirely wrong both legally and factually. It was not for tax purposes only at all.

Atheism in general is not a religion, but some atheists (so called evangelical atheists) make a religion out of their atheistic beliefs.

"He who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you." ― Friedrich Nietzsche

InesQor: Atheism in general is not a religion, but some atheists (so called evangelical atheists) make a religion out of their atheistic beliefs.

"He who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself; and if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss will gaze into you." ― Friedrich Nietzsche

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He who fights a dragon for too long becomes a dragon. How dumb. I suspect that Ghandi became a British Imperialist and MLK became a racist segregationist


Also, what are these atheist beliefs?

Logicboy03:
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He who fights a dragon for too long becomes a dragon. How dumb. I suspect that Ghandi became a British Imperialist and MLK became a racist segregationist

Try to refrain from being irreverent if you will engage me in a conversation else I'll just leave you to your impertinence. I strongly believe you can discuss like an educated person without resorting to insults.

I never said Nietzsche's quote was an absolute certainty, I placed it there for the sake of context, to show a possibility of risk in colligating with an ideology that you would rather not associate with.

Logicboy03:
Also, what are these atheist beliefs?

A belief in the inexistence of God, for instance, is a core Atheist personal belief. How this belief affects other personal experiences in turn will become a collection of personal belief systems.

Now, when this collection of personal beliefs becomes an organized system due to associations with other people sharing the same beliefs and doubts, especially when (in the case of evangelical atheists) they seek to grow their numbers by proselytizing to others; then it is no longer just one man's personal belief system; it's just as well a religion.

Consider a Wikipedia definition of religion:
Religion is an organized collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.
Inasmuch as evangelical atheism involves an organized collection of world views that relate humanity to moral values (as an example), then it can be classed as a religion.

InesQor:
Try to refrain from being irreverent if you will engage me in a conversation else I'll just leave you to your impertinence. I strongly believe you can discuss like an educated person without resorting to insults.

I never said Nietzsche's quote was an absolute certainty, I placed it there for the sake of context, to show a possibility of risk in colligating with an ideology that you would rather not associate with.


[size=18pt]A belief in the inexistence of God[/size], for instance, is a core Atheist personal belief. How this belief affects other personal experiences in turn will become a collection of personal belief systems.

Now, when this collection of personal beliefs becomes an organized system due to associations with other people sharing the same beliefs and doubts, especially when (in the case of evangelical atheists) they seek to grow their numbers by proselytizing to others; then it is no longer just one man's personal belief system; it's just as well a religion.

Consider a Wikipedia definition of religion:
Religion is an organized collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.
Inasmuch as evangelical atheism involves an organized collection of world views that relate humanity to moral values (as an example), then it can be classed as a religion.

You have succeeded in turning your subjective and fallacious opinion into a fact that you believe.

1) Notice the highlighted word in your comment. That is a disbelief not a belief. A disbelief in God. Do you call your disbelief in Santa a belief?

2) Not only are you wrong, you wanted to turn a "negative belief" into a "set of beliefs".

3) You then claim that what a belief leads one to multiple things to believe in is now the core set of beliefs of a religion. So Hitler believed in Jesus but then went on to kill Jews and fight wars in the name of Jesus. Is it in the set of beliefs of christians to kill Jews and fight wars against non-aryans?

4) An atheist can not be evangelical https://www.nairaland.com/1208378/atheist-not-evangelist-atheist-lesson (a preaching of no belief-)

5) The only way you can barely manage to call atheism an organised belief because of atheist conventions, is to accept that a dentist convention is actually an organised belief. You then make useless the meaning of belief/religion

InseQr,

Note that you have failed to mention an atheist belief. Not a single one.

Logicboy03:

1) Notice the highlighted word in your comment. That is a disbelief not a belief. A disbelief in God. Do you call your disbelief in Santa a belief?

Dude, it really won't kill you to think a little or tell a little truth. Every belief is a disbelief rotated 180°. If I believe that God exists, I cannot also believe that He doesn't so my belief in God's existence is a disbelief in His inexistence. Conversely, a disbelief in God's existence is a belief in His inexistence just like InesQor said. It is disingenous to insist you have no beliefs when you do have and admit that you do have disbeliefs.

Ihedinobi:

Dude, it really won't kill you to think a little or tell a little truth. Every belief is a disbelief rotated 180°. If I believe that God exists, I cannot also believe that He doesn't so my belief in God's existence is a disbelief in His inexistence. Conversely, a disbelief in God's existence is a belief in His in existence just like InesQor said. It is disingenous to insist you have no beliefs when you do have and admit that you do have disbeliefs.

You win the award for the most foolish comment on Nairaland.


In summary, there is no such thing as a disbelief because a disbelief is a actually a belief. Thank you very much, I never knew that people could be this delusional

Ihedinobi:

Dude, it really won't kill you to think a little or tell a little truth. Every belief is a disbelief rotated 180°. If I believe that God exists, I cannot also believe that He doesn't so my belief in God's existence is a disbelief in His inexistence. Conversely, a disbelief in God's existence is a belief in His in existence just like InesQor said. It is disingenous to insist you have no beliefs when you do have and admit that you do have disbeliefs.

Classic

toba:

Ihedinobi:


Dude, it really won't kill you to think a little or tell a little truth. Every belief is a disbelief rotated 180°. If I believe that God exists, I cannot also believe that He doesn't so my belief in God's existence is a disbelief in His inexistence. Conversely, a disbelief in God's existence is a belief in His in existence just like InesQor said. It is disingenous to insist you have no beliefs when you do have and admit that you do have disbeliefs.

Classic ignorance

Logicboy03:


You win the award for the most foolish comment on Nairaland.


In summary, there is no such thing as a disbelief because a disbelief is a actually a belief. Thank you very much, I never knew that people could be this delusional

Why should I believe you who are probably the dumbest Nairalander I ever conversed with?

Ihedinobi:

Why should I believe you who are probably the dumbest Nairalander I ever conversed with?

Wow...someone is butthurt

How can you call me dumb? You do know that I have repeatedly destroyed your mentor called Anony?