shymexx: I've been on nl for about a year now, and from my observation on nl - and reading different Nigerian news outlets only... I noticed Igbos are the most maligned ethnic group in Nigeria... Maybe, only Fulanis and Northern muslims also get maligned like Igbos but it's to a lesser extent - and the reason is understandable... However, as for Igbos, I still don't know why everyone allegedly "hates" them and why negative energy follows them everywhere...

Maybe, it's high time Igbos started looking at the "man" in the mirror and start taking responsibilities for their own actions... I don't know but this is getting too much, to be honest... Or are Igbos really Hebrews/Jews and the lost tribe of Israel This is becoming worrisome and problematic...

I'll like to have a conversation with honest Igbos about the background story of this negative energy and hatred they attract to themselves - this is what your Eze should be doing...

manny4life:

Read the statement again, then come back with your comment. Besides, go and get the definition of "MIDDLE CLASS" income earners, till then, no comment for you.

Abagworo:

The topic itself proves that everything is wrong with buying. Is it only Igbos that trade in the market? Some of the Yorubas/Hausas/Efiks/Ijaws could be richer but still chose to rent instead of buying up. Imagine where a town market like "Nkwor Nnewi" gets burnt and after Nnewi North LGA finished the re-construction, Okrika people will come out with 1983 documents claiming to have bought "Nkwor Nnewi" from the natives.

Abagworo:

The topic itself proves that everything is wrong with buying. Is it only Igbos that trade in the market? Some of the Yorubas/Hausas/Efiks/Ijaws could be richer but still chose to rent instead of buying up. Imagine where a town market like "Nkwor Nnewi" gets burnt and after Nnewi North LGA finished the re-construction, Okrika people will come out with 1983 documents claiming to have bought "Nkwor Nnewi" from the natives.

dayokanu: These whiners are back

Whats happening to the SouthSouth-SouthEast alliance?

I laff in 98% votes

ijaw citizen:

Really?
When was this "alliance" formed?

Ngwakwe: It's quite unfortunate that Yorubas who I know in my work places as chest beaters are trying to hide and deny their character over the internet.

When I was working with Unilever, a Yoruba Corper (a graduate of Mech. Engineering with no useful knowledge in those days) who came for induction categorically said and I quote "no matter the academic qualification and class of an Igbo man in this company, he must not head one of the most important departments as they are reserved for Yorubas by default" unquote.

I was shocked by at the confidence the corper spoke and wondered on the source of his information.

I pity these Nairalanders who want to tell the Igbos who they should be to be generally acceptable. We are relentless hardworking human specie, and hardworking brings success.

If Yorubas (majority civil and public servants)who confidently use juju in companies for both promotion and protection) are not defined by that, I don't see why Igbos should be defined by the character of few miscreants among the Igbos.

The summary of this whole struggle in Nigeria is about the principle of preservation.

The North has dominated politics and want it preserved.
The West has dominated industries and public service (white collar jobs) and want it preserved.
The East is seen as dominating trade and commerce and at the same time want to venture into politics and industries.
Other Ethnic minorities are divided furnished with lies on why the Igbos are dangerous.

The extra ambition of the Igbos is the crux of the matter in today's Nigeria, it is widely discussed and it fuels the resentment among other things.

Ngwakwe: Had GEJ been Igbo from predominant South East, I know Ijaws will surely boycott him.

Igbos are ever ready to forgive and make amends where possible.

Obi-akpors

Isn't it funny how you mention the U.S. and U.K, what do you think drive the U.S. economy? Large businesses like Walmart who try that contribute (revenue wise) to their company with little taxes and max of 50,000 employees or thousands of SMALL BUSINESS like small business owner, U.S. Dept of Labor classifies small business as those with up to 25 employees and make no more than $1million. I'll leave you to answer that question, then come back with your thoughts. Though the large companies make up about 70% of the revenues, their contribution (from taxes, to employment, community, et al) to the economy is meager. Quote me on it.

dayokanu:

Like the prostitute analogy Shagari made. A people ever ready to sell themselves to the next bidder

yarodin:

LOL, common now we all know who the political prostitutes are.

yarodin:

LOL, common now we all know who the political prostitutes are. I will give you a clue, they love "oyel" soup well well.

dayokanu:

The poster above has responded to you properly with reference

yarodin:

You call that crap reference? Accept your title with pride, Hausa/Fulani's houseboy.

c.fours:


ignorant manny,
US economy is driven in large part by large businesses. not "petty traders" anybody can own a petty business and infact choose not to do so because its more profitable to work for a coorporation/ industry. In fact, mass entrepreneurship is very low in the USA and has been since the industrial age. those who don't have the opportunities (ex immigrants, foreigners, unemployed etc) tend to be the ones who take the risk to open shop/ work under the table etc and a few get lucky and make it big. very very few. you will see the same pattern in most countries. China is a world power now because it smartened up and opened mass factories. the last thing it is doing is encouraging so called "petty business" rotfl
you sound like you live under a cave. esp with the ignorant statement about middle class being created by "small businesses" LOL more like working class.
go and read newspapers, get educated on the economy and then come back to me.

spare part dealer feeling funky.
infact if you mention the world "trader" in the USA, most people will think you are talking about stock market. trade is mostly on large scale level in developed countries and that's why they are developed in the first place!! even their farms are industrial!

Abagworo:

What exactly is your point? Are you arguing that the US economy is not driven by small businesses?

dayokanu:

c.fours:


ignorant manny,
US economy is driven in large part by large businesses. not "petty traders" anybody can own a petty business and infact choose not to do so because its more profitable to work for a coorporation/ industry. In fact, mass entrepreneurship is very low in the USA and has been since the industrial age. those who don't have the opportunities (ex immigrants, foreigners, unemployed etc) tend to be the ones who take the risk to open shop/ work under the table etc and a few get lucky and make it big. very very few. you will see the same pattern in most countries. China is a world power now because it smartened up and opened mass factories. the last thing it is doing is encouraging so called "petty business" rotfl
you sound like you live under a cave. esp with the ignorant statement about middle class being created by "small businesses" LOL more like working class.
go and read newspapers, get educated on the economy and then come back to me.

spare part dealer feeling funky.
infact if you mention the world "trader" in the USA, most people will think you are talking about stock market. trade is mostly on large scale level in developed countries and that's why they are developed in the first place!! even their farms are industrial!

Abagworo: @manny4life. You need to ignore the illiterate who knows nothing about economics. I thought his line of argument would be on the relevance of trading and service delivery which forms a bulk of small businesses in Nigeria.

Meanwhile this site gives all the info http://www.sba.gov/content/what-sbas-definition-small-business-concern
SBA defines a small business concern as one that is independently owned and operated, is organized for profit, and is not dominant in its field. Depending on the industry, size standard eligibility is based on the average number of employees for the preceding twelve months or on sales volume averaged over a three-year period. Examples of SBA general size standards include the following:

    Manufacturing: Maximum number of employees may range from 500 to 1500, depending on the type of product manufactured;
   Wholesaling: Maximum number of employees may range from 100 to 500 depending on the particular product being provided;
    Services: Annual receipts may not exceed $2.5 to $21.5 million, depending on the particular service being provided;
    Retailing: Annual receipts may not exceed $5.0 to $21.0 million, depending on the particular product being provided;
    General and Heavy Construction: General construction annual receipts may not exceed $13.5 to $17 million, depending on the type of construction;
    Special Trade Construction: Annual receipts may not exceed $7 million; and
    Agriculture: Annual receipts may not exceed $0.5 to $9.0 million, depending on the agricultural product.

http://www.mbda.gov/node/408

At the 2009 Minority Business Summit, U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke explained that the Minority Business Development Agency aims to grow the number of small businesses in ethnic communities to reflect the country’s changing demographics. This could lead to the creation of 16 million jobs, $2.5 trillion in annual revenue and $100 billion in tax income, reports the China Press. Representing 99.7 percent of all business, small business is the backbone of the U.S. economy , the newspaper reports.

manny4life:



US economy is driven in part by LARGE BUSINESS but you fail to tell us how so..lol My question to you, and you've been unable to answer. Let's try this again, another example, you have a Walmart store (Corp.) that makes revenues of $40million annually and 40small business with revenue of $1million annually. Same size of revenue, equate their economic contribution - Jobs, Wage, Tax revenues, Social and Community benefits, encouraging local production and what have you. A Walmart store has tops 60 to 80 employees and small businesses that have at least 3 employees, which do you think contribute more to the economy? Don't forget to add small business pay about 15% more than their corporate counterparts like Walmart (source US DOL), I'll let you figure out the rest... That statement exposes your ignorance further, more reasons why few states in the U.S. have rejected large companies like Walmart in their cities, or even state in general...

Perhaps, my advice is you consult the Dept of Commerce, they should have some good archive of number of Small Business Owners that have commenced business (thx to the Obama Administration). Next is Dept of Labor, I mean they have records Registered Small Business Hiring vs Large Corporate, and finally Dept of Treasury - IRS. This is tax season, several millions of SBO's AND MBO's will be filling taxes now, I'm sure they won't surprise us with details - how many million of businesses + tax brackets paid to the FG vs their corporate counterpart...LOL

Why do you think the talk of American Economy revolves around SBO's ?

You talk about China, have you EVER traveled to China? Lol at "that it opened Mass factories" this just shows you have no clue or idea on China or it's business...Talk about ignorance at it's peak, or should I say HIGH CLASS IGNORANCE. Anyone who's been to China or involved in China trade knows that Small and Midsize businesses are the one that take up LARGE, and I mean LARGE chunks of China's economy. If I want to order say a TV, there are more than 300 suppliers of same or similar products, hence competitive pricing, I guess China govt opened more than 10million SBO's in China, the govt opened them all LOL at MASS FACTORIES..


Goodness gracious, you're staggeringly ignorant...LOL, There's a difference between Middle class and Working class, don't get it twisted... A major determinant of ALL classes is INCOME LEVELS. For you to claim that SBO or Small Business Owners in America are Working Class when a LARGE portion of them make within the income bracket of Middle Class earners is not ONLY ignorant but foolissh.

My sincere advice for you is, rather than come online and spew hate, GO BACK and read harder. They sell Spare Parts, so what? In an organized society, they would have had an accountant, a retained attorney, consultant, few employees doing several stuff. Was it Negro_ntns who claimed that Yoruba Oil companies made more than the entire Ladipo, and when I told him to chill for a second, if we're to go by the N100billion claim by Ladipo traders vs Yoruba Oil companies, Ladipo traders (150 of them) made 5x their their corporate counterpart. I will find the post shortly and post it. Lol, I guess the Ladipo, ASPAMDA, all of them are all "PETTY TRADERS", lol, yet CBN released that Anambra and Abia (two of of five states) are the top five money movers. I guess if they move such monies and they are petty trading, GOD BLESS THEIR HUSTLE when they turn to be large super sized business...

Oh btw, let me put it that I've not claimed Large businesses are not contributing, that will be entirely false to say so, but Small and Medium enterprises, in a sane society are the ones who drives the economy because they encourage local distribution of WEALTH and resources.

otokx:

we will not sell our inheritance, if they can't rent then they should move on.

alj harem:

Gbammmmmmmmmm God bless you man !!!

confusion247:




Both of you should have a rethink before your deluded celebrations. If what you have as your inheritance is a burnt down market, you are empty. Ask your ancestors what did they achieve from the abandoned property take over? Since after that, are you people better than the GREAT IGBOS? This is my advice for both of you, be hardworking and industrious like every average IGBO man.

mikeansy: This guy called Dayokanu needs to get a life
I am sorry for the future of your kids
Thats all I got to say

mikeansy:
This guy called Dayokanu needs to get a life
I am sorry for the future of your kids
Thats all I got to say

dayokanu:

You should worry more about you and your generations to come