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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 12:49am On Jul 15, 2013
xynerise:
Name one woman in this present world that has her qualities?

Please tell me the qualities Mary had that no other woman has ever had? I don't mean her giving birth to Jesus, I mean her own personal qualities.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Koffiman: 12:51am On Jul 15, 2013
frosbel:

wrong, you are not to pray to her or ask her to intercede, it is an abomination.

Nowhere in the bible are we asked to pray to Mary, it is an invention of wicked men.

Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Ochek: 12:53am On Jul 15, 2013
gree-die:
^^^ just d same way humans pray for u, daddy adebayo and co??
wat is ur problem here dat we worship her or dat we ask her to pray for us? i think d last paragraph of my previous comment dealt with dat, maybe u should read.... and digest

and abt d teaching as doctrine d commandment of men, i assume u believe it was/ is referring to us? do i need to emphasize on how u r again interpreting dbible according to ur ignorance?

i don't need u to believe in my belief, i just want you to respect it. if we are delusional, leave dat to God.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by ktjohnpaul(m): 12:58am On Jul 15, 2013
khiaa:

Please tell ne the qualities Mary had that no other woman has ever had? I don't mean her giving birth to Jesus, I mean her own personal qualities.

The Blessed Virgin Mary is the one woman in the entire Bible who makes the claim, “All generations to come shall call me blessed” (Luke 1:48). And why is that? Well, Catholics believe it is because she was preserved from all time from sin by a special privilege of God. God got to create His own mother on earth.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by dabrake(m): 12:59am On Jul 15, 2013
xynerise:
Who is the head of the Church? Jesus right? Who is Jesus' mother? undecided
therefore Jonathan's mother is Nigeria's president. Huh?
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 1:02am On Jul 15, 2013
dabrake: therefore Jonathan's mother is Nigeria's president. Huh?
dumb azz
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by nwabuife: 1:22am On Jul 15, 2013
frosbel: I have never seen a more abusive, insultive and vulgar lot like the Catholics commenting on this article, my goodness, if this is what Christians look like we are in trouble.

Even Muslims will never descend to this level of vulgarity.

SMH.


undecided
you called urself and you have abusing the mother of Jesus, callin her names d way you like and you think Jesus will be happy wit u!! I pity you coz Jesus will make sure suffer for all u have said abt her mother!!! Even if you are a muslim n pretend to be christian n abuse d mother of Jesus ur punishment await u... We don't kill for d sake of Christ or mother or to defend our faith... Jesus the son of Mary ll fight for her mother.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by ktjohnpaul(m): 1:22am On Jul 15, 2013
jusRadical: The truth is that there no place, I repeat NEVER ANY place in the scriptures where JESUS referred to mary as HIS mother.

PLEASE, MY CATHOLIC FRIENDS WHY DID CHRIST ALWAYS ADDRESSES TO MARY AS 'WOMAN'

(3) When the wine was gine, JESUS' mother said to Him, "They have no more wine."
(4) "Dear WOMAN, why do you involve me? JESUS replied. "My time time has not yet come."
(John 2:3-4)

Some of you that are making analogy with your mothers, will you address your mother as woman when she brings a request to you? If JESUS had said "Dear mother", it would have been a different case.

Secondly in John 19:26,
When JESUS saw his mother there, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, he said to His mother, "Dear WOMAN, here is your son,"

Catholics, answer me!!!! Will you addresses your beloved mother as WOMAN!!!!!

HE never addressed her as mother to avoid what you catholics are doing now!!!!!

The Woman?
Genesis 3:15 verse reads as follows from the RSV:
“I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your [b]seed [/b]and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." Since Eve was in compliance with the devil, and not at enmity, THE WOMAN could not refer to her, but rather a future “WOMAN” who would have enmity (lifelong hatred) with Satan.

Just so you know, women don’t have “seeds”, but eggs, this is very peculiar wording. Most biblical scholars believe that “the seed” is Jesus Christ”, and that He bruised satan’s head at the place of the skull, called Golgotha, at the crucifixion. If that is so, then Catholics believe that “THE WOMAN” could only refer to the Blessed Virgin Mary, who gave birth to Jesus, her “seed”. This is why Jesus always referred to Mary as “Woman”, rather than Mom or Mother.

Because she had a solid role in God's plan of salvation, she is not just Jesus' mum but the WOMAN prefigured in Genesis, the first book of the Bible and she appears again in Revelation (the last book of the Bible) 12:1, the scripture reads,
“And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.”

The first clue is the term “a great portent”. In Isaiah 7:14 in the Old Testament, it says, “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold a virgin [/b]shall conceive, and bear a son and his name shall be called Emmanuel.”

The rest of [b]Revelation 12
talks about the enmity prefigured in Genesis 3:15 between the devil and THE WOMAN, and how satan can’t get to her. In Revelation 12:17, it says that we are her children if we follow the commandments and bear testimony to Jesus.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Koffiman: 1:32am On Jul 15, 2013
frosbel:

wrong, you are not to pray to her or ask her to intercede, it is an abomination.

Nowhere in the bible are we asked to pray to Mary, it is an invention of wicked men.


Stop displaying ur ignorance and mental vulnerability to false preaching. You do go to Adeboye, Oyedepo, TB Joshua and the rest to pray for you. So, what is wrong in asking Mary the mother God to pray for one. In the bible, at the foot of the cross, Jesus told his mother, mother behold your son ( John), son behold your mother. In the same bible, at the wedding in Canan, Mary interceded for the celebrants to her son Jesus for a miracle of turning water to wine when they ran out of wine. The history of salvation cannot be complete without Mary, get to ur deluded mind.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by daontop: 1:33am On Jul 15, 2013
frm wot i ve bin readin so far, almost all ve bin pointn to d bible, nd i ask: who wrote d bible, hw did it came to be, wot we r readn nw, it is d original txt of d authors or d verions dat ve bin waterd dwn thru d ages by diff authors nd who precided over d books dat shld b in d bible and does d true knowledge of Jesus nd his teachings ended in d bible as sme wil say dat if its nt in d bible, den its nt true... and d question goes on and on... Thr is a proverb my old man use to tel me den, he says nd i quote" The more u know, the more u dnt know"... So arguing wheda mary was jst an ordinary envelope used to deliver d msg or wheda she is to b honourd or worship or y Jesus is nt a Nigerian or a black man is nt my concern nd wil neva b cos i'm nt even fit to discuss dem.... So 4dose dat stil wnt to argue mre... GEJ to u...
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 1:42am On Jul 15, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

learn the difference between the spiritual Church and the physical church.

the Church, I mean Jesus/God came with the spiritual church at his birth(hence my first Catholic). and made Peter build the physical church(the Catholic church) on his Behalf.

Listen whether you like it or not The Catholic church is the first , the only ,unique and apostolic church. stop spitting rubbish. Roman and Jews killed Jesus so? it was already written that Jesus went through that. should I also tell you that the one who stopped the massacre of Catholics all over the world was also a Roman?

Lol @ you quoting the Bible..who wrote the Bible? who made the first Bible, pray tell? you quote and use our book to fight us? grin grin ;Dlwkd

Jesus was not born a Catholic, nor was he ever a Catholic, what a big fat lie.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by PStacks(m): 1:47am On Jul 15, 2013
We would finish ourselves with religion..
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by netflydotcom(m): 1:49am On Jul 15, 2013
Whether u like it or not Mary must be honoured,u will wait until the Bible tells u to honour MARY before u do so,even the God's law in the bible how many times did u obey it,JESUS how many times do u worship him. bible will not tell u every thing.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 1:54am On Jul 15, 2013
Mr Gemini: We honour Mary we dnt worship her! All dis ignorant protestants

You bow down and pray to Mary, that is worshiping her.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 2:12am On Jul 15, 2013
ktjohnpaul:

The Blessed Virgin Mary is the one woman in the entire Bible who makes the claim, “All generations to come shall call me blessed” (Luke 1:48). And why is that? Well, Catholics believe it is because she was preserved from all time from sin by a special privilege of God. God got to create His own mother on earth.

That does not tell me her qualities that no other woman has ever had. God blesses people everyday, I know God has truly blessed me, he has brought me through alot. Where in the bible does it say Mary was preserved from sin for all time, or is that just another catholic belief. I respect Mary for being Jesus mother, but I do not believe she was without sin because she was human like all of us, therefore I neither worship her nor pray to her.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by ktjohnpaul(m): 2:22am On Jul 15, 2013
khiaa:

That does not tell me her qualities that no other woman has ever had. God blesses people everyday, I know God has truly blessed me, he has brought me through alot.

“FULL OF GRACE!” That is the term that the archangel Gabriel used when addressing Mary, in Luke 1:28. Notice that Gabriel does not call her by her name of Mary, but instead calls her “Full of Grace.” Because Mary had a quality of full grace, there is no room left over for anything else. Therefore, Mary, who was full of God’s grace, could not sin, or have the stain of original sin on her soul, because there was no room for any of that.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 2:37am On Jul 15, 2013
ktjohnpaul:

“FULL OF GRACE!” That is the term that the archangel Gabriel used when addressing Mary, in Luke 1:28. Notice that Gabriel does not call her by her name of Mary, but instead calls her “Full of Grace.” Because Mary had a quality of full grace, there is no room left over for anything else. Therefore, Mary, who was full of God’s grace, could not sin, or have the stain of original sin on her soul, because there was no room for any of that.

That is only your interpretation, it doesn't say she was without sin.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by danokika: 3:06am On Jul 15, 2013
THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY, MOTHER OF GOD, is a Special Figure in the Spiritual Lives of (real) Catholics. I know it will be hard for some to believe that the CATHOLIC CHURCH is indeed the "Author" of Todays Bible. While the bible was still being compiled, the church (CATHOLIC) was already alive and spreading - already more than 2000 years old. Better to also let you know that much of the Church practices, are, as passed down to us by the (original) Apostles (Holy Traditions) including Easter and later Christmas. Don't also forget that all those whose writings make up the New Testament and some Old Testament books, never intended them to be so - the CATHOLIC CHURCH chose them (Books,Epistles and Gospels) and got them canonized. If anybody tells you he knows "Things Fall Apart" better than Chinua Achebe, I wonder what your reaction will be. We in the Catholic Church venerate THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY. We also venerate all other SAINTS recognized by the CATHOLIC CHURCH. Adoration, is strictly for the ALMIGHTY GOD - THE TRINITY (FATHER, SON & HOLY GHOST) and HE alone we Adore. For those that don't expect to meet Catholics in Heaven, just wait till you and be lucky to get there. - maybe u go carry placard in protest before God/Christ and ask why im mama MARY go dey get respect reach pastors wives!! The Holy Bible may appear simple to read, but without proper guidance, some people end up in confusion. Another unfortunate issue is that some people that claim to be Catholics, can't even defend their faith (no knowledge of the Church's doctrines) thereby making the CATHOLIC CHURCH susceptible to unwarranted attacks by those that ought to learn from them.

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by khiaa(f): 3:23am On Jul 15, 2013
I am not a catholic, I am a christain.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by danokika: 3:33am On Jul 15, 2013
khiaa: I am not a catholic, I am a christain.

be u catholic, anglican or pentecostal, just work hard enough to make heaven. yes, that's the ultimate!!!
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by linearity: 4:24am On Jul 15, 2013
Syncan:


Just listen to yourself, He was man at some time and change to God at some time, bla bla bla, Who made the child in the womb of Elizabeth leap for joy, God or man, Who forgave the paralytic? The man or God? Who told Mary, " Don't you know I should be about my father's business", God or man? Who did the magi see in bethlehem, God or man? Just do a little reading, and you will find out that the whole christendom condemned Nestorius and this your teaching since 431AD. You no de shame, christian indeed.


"...The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him....John 13:31

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....the word become flesh and dwell among us. John 1.

"..And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross...Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name..that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.." Phil 2:8-11.

And to answer the other of your questions, God the Father was with him from birth to his death, just like he is with us as Christians directing and guiding us.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 5:23am On Jul 15, 2013
khiaa:

You bow down and pray to Mary, that is worshiping her.
go and check the definition of worship
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 6:46am On Jul 15, 2013
CAMEROONPRIDE:

woman means mother . it is well explained . and you know that stop was your time on that wrong path of yours.


This hows how gullible you catholics are. How can JESUS call woman in relation to himself while HE (when HE was on the cross) called her mother in relation to apostle John.

You catholics are just turning the Bible upside down. JESUS called mary woman and you claimed that woman means mother even when it was clear that HE distinctively said "......mother behold your son........" This clearly shows that he knows the difference.

Saint Paul mentioned of Cephas taking along a believing wife and you claim that he never meant wife but female assistant. Read all the epistles of apostle Paul and you will know that when he wrote wife, he meant just it, wife!

Continue to decieve yourselve for the bible saays in Revelation 13:10a,
If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity will he go...........
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Dnaz(m): 7:07am On Jul 15, 2013
I tell u did ppl all protest even on d last day
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Dnaz(m): 7:08am On Jul 15, 2013
jusRadical:


This hows how gullible you catholics are. How can JESUS call woman in relation to himself while HE (when HE was on the cross) called her mother in relation to apostle John.

You catholics are just turning the Bible upside down. JESUS called mary woman and you claimed that woman means mother even when it was clear that HE distinctively said "......mother behold your son........" This clearly shows that he knows the difference.

Saint Paul mentioned of Cephas taking along a believing wife and you claim that he never meant wife but female assistant. Read all the epistles of apostle Paul and you will know that when he wrote wife, he meant just it, wife!

Continue to decieve yourselve for the bible saays in Revelation 13:10a,
If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity will he go...........



bla bla bla
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Syncan(m): 7:11am On Jul 15, 2013
linearity:


"...The time has come for the Son of Man to enter into his glory, and God will be glorified because of him....John 13:31

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....the word become flesh and dwell among us. John 1.

"..And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross...Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name..that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.." Phil 2:8-11.

And to answer the other of your questions, God the Father was with him from birth to his death, just like he is with us as Christians directing and guiding us.


"Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am".
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Skenge98: 7:22am On Jul 15, 2013
It seem we have Antichrist in here, My advice to my Catholic christain is that you should hold on to your faith as this are signs of end time where the devil and its followers will try to confuse and tempt you in order for you to be discourage, So HOLD FIRMLY TO YOUR FAITH and remember yesterday sermon in the Mass. May God protect, guild and make our faith stronger in Jesus Name.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Aabee(m): 7:35am On Jul 15, 2013
lemmings: *unfollowing*

Stupidity,immaturity,childish sentiments and blasphemies that make my eyes hurt and heart ache is rife here.

I see muslims and atheists and agnostics laughing with glee at every single one of you.

I am most disappointed in my catholic brothers and sisters trading words here. And i am hurt with the way my pentecostal brothers and sisters show so much disdain. It is well.

Respect my church and i will bless you and your household.

i'm out.


Rightly stated. U all av gained notin but exposin d low level at which u understand God. No one knows God better dan God Himself.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Chudiking(m): 7:39am On Jul 15, 2013
gree-die:


lol... pagan madness? and you know this because?.. der u go, interpreting the bible according to your level of ignorance...

The Gospel of St. John relates two significant accounts which relate to Mary — the wedding feast of Cana and the Crucifixion. Of the first account we read:
“There was a marriage in Cana of Galilee, and the Mother of Jesus was there. And Jesus also was invited, and His disciples, to the marriage. And the wine failing, the Mother of Jesus said to Him, ‘They have no wine.’ And Jesus said to her, ‘Woman, what is it to Me and to thee? My hour is not yet come.’ His Mother said to the waiters, ‘Whatsoever He shall say to you, do ye’” (John 2:1-5).
Jesus Christ then proceeded to work His first public miracle at His Mother’s request. Everything related in the Gospels is inspired by God, and there is a reason for it. Does not this narrative of the wedding feast manifest the intercessory power of Mary with Jesus Christ, her Divine Son?
In the second account, also take from the Gospel of St. John, we read:
“There stood by the Cross of Jesus His Mother... When Jesus therefore had seen His Mother and the disciple standing whom He loved, He saith to His Mother: ‘Woman, behold thy son...’” (John 19:25-27).
Just as Eve cooperated with Adam in the Fall of mankind, the Blessed Virgin Mary cooperated with Jesus Christ in our redemption. She “stood by the Cross of Jesus.” What anguish, what sorrow did the Mother of Jesus experience at the foot of the Cross as she witnessed the sufferings and death of her Divine Son!
In both accounts, Jesus addressed Mary by the term woman. In Hebrew the word used by Jesus was a term which would be addressed to a queen or a woman of high rank. It was a term of great respect.
But why did Jesus Christ address His Mother by the term woman at these two significant moments in His life — at His first public miracle, and at His Crucifixion on the Cross?
Our Divine Lord wanted to clearly indicate that His Mother was the Woman spoken of in the Book of Genesis:
“I will put enmities between thee (Satan) and the Woman, between thy seed and her seed, and she shall crush thy head.”

catholics do not, as Protestants falsely believe, worship the Blessed Virgin Mary. We honor her who was so intimately connected with Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. Yes, there is only one Mediator with the Father — Jesus Christ. Only the God-Man Jesus Christ could have redeemed mankind. Nevertheless, we pray to Mary that she may intercede for us with her Divine Son. How often we request the assistance of prayers from our fellow men — how much more powerful are the prayers and intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary! In the Old Testament, we read how Moses prayed with arms outstretched and interceded with God to procure the victory of the Israelites over their enemies in a crucial battle. As long as he prayed, they were victorious. When he ceased his prayers, the Israelites began to lose. Because of this, it was necessary for two men to hold up Moses’ arms in prayer until the battle was won. Also, we read in the Old Testament how Josue prayed to God to have the day prolonged in order to win another crucial battle. If Moses and Josue could have such intercession before God, how much more powerful are the prayers of the Blessed Virgin Mary!
GOD bless u dear, leave all ds ignorant n stippen humans who brag n never remember she(Mother Mary) exist among them, still they went to pastors n bow down for. Dm to pray them out, No where in Bible ws recorded bout her Death story be wise nd stop ds flambouyant atittude

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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 7:43am On Jul 15, 2013
jusRadical:


This hows how gullible you catholics are. How can JESUS call woman in relation to himself while HE (when HE was on the cross) called her mother in relation to apostle John.

You catholics are just turning the Bible upside down. JESUS called mary woman and you claimed that woman means mother even when it was clear that HE distinctively said "......mother behold your son........" This clearly shows that he knows the difference.

Saint Paul mentioned of Cephas taking along a believing wife and you claim that he never meant wife but female assistant. Read all the epistles of apostle Paul and you will know that when he wrote wife, he meant just it, wife!

Continue to decieve yourselve for the bible saays in Revelation 13:10a,
If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity will he go...........

what are you even ranting about? that Mary is not the mother of Jesus/God? abi? stop blaspheming my friend. you are on the wrong path. there's only one, unique, true and apostolic church. and it is the Catholic church . created by Jesus himself. God's House. so repent and stop misleading people here. at the time Peter became pope ,he was single(his past doesn't count , because they were all sinners prior Jesus) and yes in those scriptures wife means female assistant.
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 7:44am On Jul 15, 2013
Dnaz:



bla bla bla
grin grin
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 7:53am On Jul 15, 2013
Ndjones: One thing I hate in my life is hypocrisy. Some people are saying why do the Catholics ask Mary to pray for them? But when they are sick they run to TBJ, Pst Chris to pray for them too. Who is fooling who?

All of u seems to be fooling urslvs including the dead mary worshipers and the tb joshua and pastors and G.O worshipers are all in that class of foolishness.
U all do d same thing but with dfrnt methodology

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