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Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:32am On Jul 16, 2013 |
naijadeyhia: Do you mind explaining to me how the christ came to be from the lineage of David? How was the messiah genetically related to David? Did God lie in is prophecy about the great descendant of David? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:32am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: You need kindagarten classes.. Jesus said "when" not "they have risen.. smh |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:33am On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by bukatyne(f): 11:34am On Jul 16, 2013 |
vicope: I never really knew about the Catholic doctrine until this thread. We obviously do not serve the same God |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:36am On Jul 16, 2013 |
ochongonoko: You did not bother to explain why he referred to Abraham,Isaac and Jacob as been among the living. |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by bukatyne(f): 11:36am On Jul 16, 2013 |
xyoung: I don't understand why protestants like fighting the catholic church and her teachings!!! A church founded by Jesus christ himself..Next time, protestant will post, "why confess 2a priest when you can confess to God directly".. Which Church are you talking about? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:37am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE READY FOR THE ANSWER I WILL GIVE TO YOU? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:38am On Jul 16, 2013 |
Bidam: @bolded is a wrong reasoning of scriptures.You don't have to be among the twelve to be called an Apostle by God.It was evident in scriptures that Paul had an apostolic mandate to the gentile nations.Stop belittling Paul here abeg.Try to do a study on the five fold ministry gifts. And yet they say we're belittling mary..smh |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:39am On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: He is talking about the catholic church founded by Christ himself through the authourity he invested on st Peter.The same church that created the bible. |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:41am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Aren't surrogate children sourced from the the women that carried them?.. Smh |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:42am On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: When it comes to them, cousins becomes brothers ![]() ![]() |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:45am On Jul 16, 2013 |
ochongonoko: My sister there are actually 2 kinds of surrogates. One that the fertilized egg is from the carrier but the sperm from another source and another where the fertilized egg is from another woman and the sperm from another source and the carrier is only carrying the finished fertilized egg. |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:45am On Jul 16, 2013 |
naijadeyhia: Quit wasting your time with that guy.. Even when God mentioned "anything", meaning nothing whatsoever, they still carve those idols.. They claim to be servants of God but disobeys God's own words and bring up their own He knows the truth but won't agree.. Quit indulging him |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:45am On Jul 16, 2013 |
ochongonoko: ochongonoko: I suggest you go back to your elementary biology class |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:47am On Jul 16, 2013 |
naijadeyhia: GRACIAS!!!! |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:49am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Did you bother to explain to me about the "when"? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:51am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: The catholic did creat any bible, maybe yours, not mine |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:53am On Jul 16, 2013 |
naijadeyhia: Yeah I know, I was talking about the "fertilized egg is from the carrier but the sperm is from another source" |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:53am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Yes chukwudi, the son of mary not God ![]() ![]() What meant is that a child from surrogacy is carried by woman, and in this case, mary was FAVOURED to be it's carrier |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by bukatyne(f): 11:56am On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: The remarkable thing, however, about Peter’s alleged bishopric in Rome, is that the New Testament has not one word to say about it. The word Rome occurs only nine times in the Bible, and never is Peter mentioned in connection with it. There is no allusion to Rome in either of his epistles. Paul’s journey to that city is recorded in great detail (Acts 27 and 28). There is in fact no New Testament evidence, nor any historical proof of any kind, that Peter ever was in Rome. All rests on legend. The first twelve chapters of the book of Acts tell of Peter’s ministry and travels in Palestine and Syria. Surely if he had gone to the capital of the empire, that would have been mentioned. We may well ask, if Peter was superior to Paul, why does he receive so little attention after Paul comes on the scene? Nobody created the Bible. It was Catholics that said Mary was alive because her death was not recorded in the Bible. I ask: If Mary died a virgin, what happened to her marriage with Joseph? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by bukatyne(f): 11:58am On Jul 16, 2013 |
ktjohnpaul: None taken. Give me a Bible passage where Mary was called the Mother of Jesus (God) and God the Father was called his Father at the same time |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 11:59am On Jul 16, 2013 |
ochongonoko: The woman whoose egg is fertilized is the mother of the child thaty is basic biology.Jesus's humanity originated in the womb of Mary.His flesh and blood were derived from Mary shikena |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Idowuogbo(f): 12:01pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44:from christianity to scientology? lmao! na wa o! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: While at it, lemme ask Since mary is alive according to the catholics since her death wasn't recorded, I take it to mean that the countless names mentioned in bible that their deaths weren't recorded in bible are alive too As per your last question, I ask them, since the bible specifically listed mary's other sons, does it mean that the bible which the catholics claims they wrote is false? *watch them say the brothers actually meant their cousins ![]() ![]() |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:03pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: IF MARY IS TO BE KNOWN AS THE MOTHER OF GOD THEN SHE WOULD HAVE FIRST BEEN DIVINELY BORN. THE ERROR IN CATHOLICISM BEGAN WHEN THEY FIRST APPROVED THE SO CALLED IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. THIS REFERS TO MARY AS BEEN BORN PERFECT AND WITHOUT SIN. THE BIBLE NEVER RECORDED ANYWHERE OF THE BIRTH OF MARY OR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED PERTAINING TO HER BIRTH. SHE SUDDENLY JUST CAME INTO LIGHT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. IF SHE WAS DIVINE AND IMMACULATE WHILE ON EARTH WHY WAS SHE BETROTHED TO JOSEPH? DOES PERFECTION MARRY IMPERFECTION? |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
Idowuogbo: I was ashamed to quote him that's why I quoted you Can you imagine this was the same ITK saying I should go back to elementary biology.. Lmao.. Dude is super duper confused |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by bukatyne(f): 12:06pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44: Listen to yourself: Yes, it must. 1. If Mary is the mother of Jesus (God) and God the Father is the father of Jesus (God), it means Mary and God are equal 2. It means that God can die, afteral, it was Jesus (the son of Mary) who died on the cross, He can be hungry, He can be tempted, He can feel pain etc Sorry dude, I don't serve a God that can die. John 1:1 says 'In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God'... 'In Him everything including Mary' was created I would have no problem if Catholics can realize they serve a different God, a different Jesus and are referring to a different Mary |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:10pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
naijadeyhia: LMAO!! ![]() ![]() They say she's the mother of God and yet jesus never called her "mother" but "woman" and God said he is the beginning and the end.. I wonder where God's mother suddenly came from?.. Lmao |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: School 'em ma'am.. Gracias If only they can see the light.. If only!!...smh |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
bukatyne: The catholic church creaated the bible @ the synod of hippo in 393CE.This was further ratified by the council of carthage in 397CE and 417 CE. Prior to that the bible did not exist.The term bible is actaually has no biblical basis |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
chukwudi44:Firstly you have to understand the whole meaning of an apostle from scriptural perspective,lemme quote a source so that you can see that it is not only the twelve that were referred to as an apostle. An apostle is someone sent with a special message or commission. Jesus is called the apostle and high Priest of our confession in Hebrews 3:1. The twelve apostles of Jesus were Simon Peter, Andrew, James the son of Zebedee, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot who was replaced by Mathias (Acts 1:26). Paul became an apostle after Jesus' resurrection (2 Cor. 1:1), along with Barnabas (Acts 14:14), and others. Apostles established churches (Rom. 15:17-20), exposed error (Gal. 1:6-9), and defended the truth of the gospel (Phil. 1:7,17). Some were empowered by the Holy Spirit to perform Miracles (Matt. 10:1, ![]() A quick look at how the word is used in the Bible and there are several categories that arise: 1. There are apostles who were only among the 12. They performed miracles. Some wrote scripture. (Acts 1:21-22) 2. Paul was an apostle (unique?) specifically commissioned by Christ. He performed miracles and wrote scripture. (Acts 14:14; 1 Cor. 9:1; Gal. 1:1) 3. Barnabas is an apostle. He performed no miracles, wrote no scripture. (Acts 14:14,8-18) 4. Jesus is called an apostle. He performed miracles (Heb. 3:1) 5. There are apostles in the sense of simply being sent. They are messengers. They perform no miracles.(2 Cor. 8:23; Phil. 2:25; John 20:21) 6. It could be possible that anyone who was involved in Christ's ministry before his death and saw him after his resurrection could be referred to as apostles. (Acts 1:21-22) 7. There are false apostles.(2 Cor. 11:13; Rev. 2:2) http://carm.org/dictionary-apostle Paul was even bold to tell the Corinthians that he was an apostle. Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. 1 Corinthians 9 |
Re: In Jesus Name, All Knees Bow; In Mary's Name, What Happens? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jul 16, 2013 |
ochongonoko: you are making fun of your your own ignorance.YOPUR LEVEL OF IGNORANCE EVEN MADE ME TO DIGRESS INTO THE BASIC BIOLOGY |
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