CAMEROONPRIDE: Culture/identity is above fashion and protection ...so whats you saying ...why don''t you blame the parents who perm their children's hair?

slimyem: What's the need for that unnecessary identity?Isn't identity what traditional names are for?Isn't there also language to take care of culture and identity? Is the child being sold into slavery of what?

slimyem: What's the need for that unnecessary identity ?Isn't identity what traditional names are for?Isn't there also language to take care of culture and identity? Is the child being sold into slavery of what?

Fhemmmy:

Face painting is not same as someone marking your face, face-painting is not permanent and it is all for fun, kids are happy and jump to have face painted . . . unlike seeing a knife running thru the skin of their face . . .

PAGAN 9JA:


this is done once in the lifetime. It is just a 2-day ordeal. that 2 at the infant stage, the pain hardly matters. also with new technology, all those cowards who are scared can use anesthesia. the human life-span is around 27,375 or even more.

Fhemmmy:

A parent that allows tribal mark on her child and watch them crying being knifed for sure have no clue of what is best for the kids . . . the tribal mark is not for fashion, not for protection - what exactly is it for than for the price of the parents?

Fhemmmy:

So you are happy to see that little kid crying all cos you wanna continue some culture that probably leading nowhere . . . Tell me the significance of that mark on the face of that child.

PAGAN 9JA:


stop trying to exaggerate and be over sentimental. KNIFED! lol it is as if the parents are driving dagers into the children and murdering them. just get lost and mind your own business.

slimyem: What's the need for that unnecessary identity?Isn't identity what traditional names are for?Isn't there also language to take care of culture and identity? Is the child being sold into slavery of what?

PAGAN 9JA:



I already said that all those cowards who are scared can use anesthesia. you live in 2013 yes? so make use of 2013 technology.

I have already mentioned the significance before. stop wasting my time. The significance depends on the respective tribe, gender , age, etc.

nwando: Yorubas and their faces

PAGAN 9JA:


Beautiful people! especially the 1st and last pic!

You probably need glasses to know what beauty is all about, yes, that person is beautiful but your and your people messed up the face with knife and black stuff . . .

Fhemmmy:

Yes, that is what is looks like, we saw the pix up there and how they were designing the face of that little kid . . . Lemme ask you again, what is that black substance that is being rubbed on that face?

Fhemmmy:

Now you see what i mean . . . . So you have 10 numbers of 1 year old to be marked, how do you decide who gets what and designs?

PAGAN 9JA:


its a little baby by the GODS! it is not dying! and the small child below with the done marks. the 3_3 he looks so good. The Gods bless him.

That is ash-like substance. It is used as an antiseptic and to smooth the skin for the marking, to reduce friction I guess, usually along with alcohol.

So you all playing trial and error with the face of the kid . . .

PAGAN 9JA:


I said it depends on your respective tribe and custom! usually most marks are small. People of royallty and priestly orders and warriors and those working for royal families as courtiers, musicians,etc., usualy have more marks and more intricate designs.

Fhemmmy:

So you all playing trial and error with the face of the kid . . .

Fhemmmy:

You are yet to answer my question, they are all of same tribe, they are all of same custom . . . how would they decide what design to place on the face of the cute child?

PAGAN 9JA:


are you st.upid? no i am serious btw. are you st.upid?

I said I guess because Im not the one doing the marks with my hands. but Im sure thats the purpose.

the ash is washed off.

Yes, i am stupid and that is why i wanna learn from you that is wise . . .
You cut the face of a child, you add ashes to it, and then washes it, tell me what is sensible in that . . . . Then, you are telling me you are not the one that is doing the cutting but you have been lecturing us for days, so how could you lecture us on what yu are not sure of?

PAGAN 9JA:



usually each tribe has a common standard beautiful marking set. For example, all Nuer people have the same set of 6 line markings on the forehead. however if you are the last born child, you have a 7 th extra marking.

The beautiful markings on that child are the most common ones used by civilians.

Fhemmmy:

Keep the lecturing coming . . . And if it is a home that decide to have a football team, that means the last child will have 11 marking on his forehead.
What is any of the child die, would they remove one from the each of those that are after the dead one?

PAGAN 9JA:



YOU ST.UPID MAN! STOP WASTING MY TIME! THIS IS NOT A JOKE! WHY WOULD A TRIBAL MARKINGINVOLVE A FOOTBALL TEAM! THESE ARE SET MARKINGS DEFINED BY TRADITION!

YOU CANT JUST HAVE ANY RANDOM MARKINGS! THOSE DONT CALSSIFY AS TRIBAL MARKS!

JUST GET LOST AND STOP WASTING MY TIME! THE ONLY REASON I STILL REPLY TO YOU IS TO FIGHT FOR MY CULTURE!

OR ELSE I WOULD JUST DISMISS YOUR NONSENE RANTS!

Fhemmmy:

Na wa for you oh . . . Why do u keep repeating same over and over, i have agreed that i "was" stupid . . . so wise one, read what i said earlier and just answer about the football team.

PAGAN 9JA:


your questions are getting more childlike by every post! I answered, are you happy now?

Fhemmmy:

Ok, i noticed you read what i posted with anger, so make i re-ask you . . . Based on your description of how many mark on the face of kids based on what number that child is on list of kids had . . . if the family has 11 kids, that means the last child will have 11 marks on his forehead? God forbid something happen to the 3rd child, does that means that 4th kid all the way to the last will be re-marked to show the new number in the family?

PAGAN 9JA:


which tribe has this custom of marking based on the number of children, pray tell me?

The only tribe that does something similar (not same) are the Nuer. they have a fixed set of six markings, but the last child, whatever the number, whether he is 2nd or 100 th, will have only 7 markings on the forehead.


usually each tribe has a common standard beautiful marking set. For example, all Nuer people have the same set of 6 line markings on the forehead. however if you are the last born child, you have a 7 th extra marking.

The beautiful markings on that child are the most common ones used by civilians.

PAGAN 9JA:


which tribe has this custom of marking based on the number of children, pray tell me?

The only tribe that does something similar (not same) are the Nuer. they have a fixed set of six markings, but the last child, whatever the number, whether he is 2nd or 100 th, will have only 7 markings on the forehead.

Fhemmmy:

OK, now i understand what you mean . . . thanks