PAGAN 9JA:


you are talking in a very childish and st.upid manner now!
maybe in your culture it is to abuse kids, not in mine. Our Kids are born into the tribe and they are just receiveing heir basic initiation. They dont complain, i dont see why you, who ave never experienced it, are nagging and complaining like a coward. wife has to shut up? wtf?! in most cases its the wives and womenfolk who have it done.
HUMILIATE A CHILD WITH MARKS?!

PLEASE ABEG I CANT STAND THIS BULLSH!T ANYMORE! THOSE ARE MARKS OF WARRIORS! NOT OF PETTY COWARDS LIKE YOU!

YOU DONT SEE THE IMMENSE PRIDE WITH WHICH MY PEOPLE CARRY IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT!

TO HELL WITH YOU! WE DNT NEED YOUR PITY!

PAGAN 9JA:


NOW CIRCUMCISION IS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. EH?!!! SO ALL THESE UNCIRCUMCISED PEOPLE ARE DYING AND ARE DEAD. EH?
YOU ARE A BLOODY HYPOCRITE! YOU SHOULD ALSO THEN LET THE CHILD GROW OLD ENOUGH TO DECIDE ON CIRCUMCISION OR NOT!


just go through this then:
itll take 5 minutes.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080908105012AARg2mF

Read me well and not jump into conclusion cos of your anger towards me . . . I am sure if you are able to mark my face now, you would tie me down against my will and mark my face, thanks to my wonderful God that you are not close.
Just tell me what was used to mark your face

Fhemmmy:

At the age of 8 and you were so eager to have your face marked? Then, that made you a unique one that is eager to receive some pain with enjoyment . . . . Please pardon my ignorance, what was used to mark it?

Fhemmmy:

Since you are too serious to read btw the line, that was supposed to be a joke, Pal, relax dont be too serious . . . Learn to take time to smell the flowers, but aint joking about saying any adult that could mark a face of a child is wicked oh. . . . I am glad no one would even wanna try to do them to my kids, else, the person would be used as animal to test some medications

PAGAN 9JA:


YOU ARE SO IGNORANT! MY GODS!

DURING THE INTITIATION, ALL BOYS ARE EAGER TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE IT IS A NEW STEP IN THEIR LIFE! MINE WAS DONE WITH 5 OTHER BOYS AND WE WERE VERY EAGER TOWARDS IT. WE WERE GIVEN GOOD FOOD PRIOR AND WERE WELL CARED FOR.

THE MARKER USED A SMALL HEATED BLADE AND LOCAL ALCOHOL. IT HEALED WEL ENOUGH IN 2 DAYS.

Fhemmmy:

Initiation with pain? that is scary and would never wanna be close to such culture. . . . I guess your culture too gets angry and start abusing people when they dialogue with people and their views are not being accepted into normal society?

PAGAN 9JA:


i dont understand. are you wasting my time all this while. .

Fhemmmy:

Read me well and not jump into conclusion cos of your anger towards me . . . I am sure if you are able to mark my face now, you would tie me down against my will and mark my face, thanks to my wonderful God that you are not close.
Just tell me what was used to mark your face

Fhemmmy:

Remember i said that you should pardon my ignorance, so i agree say i be ignoramus . . . so do you mind to show us the kinda marking that you had on your face? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
BTW, are you sure you were not excited cos of the good food that was prepared for you and the other "Boys" before marking your face for life?

PAGAN 9JA:


Infact no. My people very relaxed aboout our traditions and we are actually very welcoming but when people take advantage of us and try to destroy our ways, it has prompted me to take a tougher stand with an equally tough world.

I guess a city born coward like you would be scared of anyhting. even a small ant. .

normal society? i think you are extremely ignorant. This is normal society in Nigeria.

PAGAN 9JA:


Im sorry im very hesitant to reveal my face or my pvt. life on an online site. Ive not done so for the past 3 yrs and dont wish to discontinue.

as to the 2 nd, i guess it was the effect of both. it was a day of celebration. ours was done a bit late.

Fhemmmy:

Read me well oh, i am not wasting your time on some issues, but then, i learn to joke while i am serious too, so snap your face and show us the pics. . . . i wanna see your marking

Fhemmmy:

Which of this is close your mark?

Fhemmmy:

Ok, so any kid that is not happy to have it done in your culture, what happened to him / her?

PAGAN 9JA:


there was usually no occasion to be happy or not. It i supposed to be done when the child is still a baby. Ours was late.

Fhemmmy:

Would it be fair to say that your culture is scared that the child might revolt if not done early . . . why dont wait till the child is older and then line up people like you with marks on their faces and tell the child, you are about to look like this or that or that one, and see the speed at which the child will run.
So again, it boils down to wickedness, allow that child to be old enuf to decide if he wants tattoo on his or her face.

slimyem: PAGAN is just finding justification for tribal marking because he had his own face branded as a child.Its undertandable that one'd try find consolation and an a supportive argument for something you have to carry all your life.
I'm almost sure his children won't be marked.This drag can end now.

PAGAN 9JA:



What abuse? LMAO! my marks were down when i was around 8 yrs old and I still remember the eagerness with which i looked forward to it!

+ at the babay stage it is best to be done because the chold wont suffer so much.

My Gods are spiritual Forces, you cannot touch them.

now you are talking nonsense. innocence diluted. . wtf?!

PAGAN 9JA:


YOU ARE SO IGNORANT! MY GODS!

DURING THE INTITIATION, ALL BOYS ARE EAGER TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE IT IS A NEW STEP IN THEIR LIFE! MINE WAS DONE WITH 5 OTHER BOYS AND WE WERE VERY EAGER TOWARDS IT. WE WERE GIVEN GOOD FOOD PRIOR AND WERE WELL CARED FOR.

THE MARKER USED A SMALL HEATED BLADE AND LOCAL ALCOHOL. IT HEALED WEL ENOUGH IN 2 DAYS.

nwando:

No wonder
You were cursed at childhood
That explains it all

nwando:

Gosh
Barbarism
This is 2013 for heavens sake
Are your parents illiterates?
They need to be jailed for mutilation and abuse

PAGAN 9JA:


so to be brave is to be cursed. Truly what an age of cowards this is!

i bet you cry when you get pierced with a small needle as well. TUFIA!

nwando:

Are you comparing ear piercing to the barbaric act of tribal scarifications?

nwando:

Are you comparing ear piercing to the barbaric act of tribal scarifications?

Look at this girl here
Is this not wicked and ugly what they did to this otherwise beautiful ebony toned lady

PAGAN 9JA:


and if I were not branded, Im sure you would come with some other excuse to my protestations. cant you just accept the fact that Im propagating these marks to save this ancient noble culture

ofc if I have kids/already have them they will be/are marked.

PAGAN 9JA:


barbaric act? are you st.upid? you have never even tried it. they are just scratches on the face that heal in a day or 2.

PAGAN 9JA:


and if I were not branded, Im sure you would come with some other excuse to my protestations. cant you just accept the fact that Im propagating these marks to save this ancient noble culture

ofc if I have kids/already have them they will be/are marked.

nwando:

Yes very barbaric acts I repeat
Your folks need to be flogged
I hope you won't subject your kids to the same stupidity

slimyem: how do you propagate something you are not a representation of?You'd definitely need to make an example of youself if you want followership or don't you think?There can be no other excuse.
The word "Noble" and tribal marking should also not be found in the same sentence.Its a senseless and wicked culture.
which is it?
Be specific please!

slimyem: how do you propagate something you are not a representation of?You'd definitely need to make an example of youself if you want followership or don't you think?There can be no other excuse.
Noble an tribal marking should also not be found in the same sentence.Its a senseless and wicked culture.
!

PAGAN 9JA:




She looks even more beautiful now. I truly commend the person who did those marks on her. they are beautifully done!

it seems you dont know to appreciate real beauty.



look at these people. are you saying they are not beautiful? then you are just a narrow minded bigot!

nwando:

Very wicked
That is why I laugh when they come here and tell us how Yorubas are ahead of others in enlightenment
Enlightened folks that will take a perfectly normal child and disfigure her permanently for life