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Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by passjamb(m): 5:19pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!! |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
andyanders:Who is Lucify? 1 Like |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by adoniza(m): 5:22pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
DASKACE: Look bro, the bible made it clear that God is "Omniscience" which simply means "All knowing", now that said, he already knew that Lucifer would deceive them and that they would surely give-in to that. So what then is he testing?? If he was truely testing them, then he is clearly not omniscient, which means the bible "lied" |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 5:22pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
DASKACE: Did genesis not give an account of more than one god? " let us make man in our image". What happened to the other ones? If your god loves everyone equally, there wouldn't be hunger,tension etc on earth? Unless you are hiding something. And who are the overcomers? It seems you are telling me what you have been programmed to say. You no not seem to have your own mind. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 5:22pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
adoniza: Why can't God defend himself? Protect himself? From what? |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Tracetruth: 5:23pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
The truth remains that when people decides to be suppressed by a particular line of reasoning it becomes almost impossible to redirect their views on issues that are especially too big for Them. This is to my christian brothers who are on this thread,we must not forget that the devil would stop at nothing to undermine who our dear LORD is. Be mindful of the wiles of the devil and his cohorts, don't have conflicting purpose in your fellowship with the LORD. It is only reasonable for events like this happen to validate the authenticity of the most attacked, yet most desired book. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by jesuton(m): 5:24pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
in live u are free to make your choice because it has been placed before us to choose what we believe and who to follow so i'll say na u get ur mouth ask anything you want to ask,but one thing remains wait until you breath your last breathe then you will get answers to many things you dont know and you will have to account for all you have said and done.to the christians in the house hold on to what you believe in the end some will be kept in the barn and the rest burnt a word is enuf for the wise. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Fhemmmy: 5:24pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!! Amen to that! |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by adoniza(m): 5:24pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: So why are Christians not offering those animal sacrifices to him anymore?? after all it was used to please him in the past |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 5:25pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!! Damn Fela what a great prophet you were! |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 5:27pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
ifeness: Ok I haven't read the part of the Bible that says to stone kids to death. As for homosexuals God HATES homosexuality . He HATES it. That one cannot change. His word cannot change. You can call me ignorant, but I'd rather be a fool for God than a wise man for the world. After all I won't live on this earth pass 100 yrs but the other side is for eternity |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 5:29pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
adoniza: Because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. See the blood of Jesus is all the sacrifice you need. No more slaughtering ram, Jesus has died for you. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by DASKACE(m): 5:30pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
adoniza: There are certain things that the human mind can not comprehend, you certainly need the help of the Holy Spirit to decipher them. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death." Deut 21:18-21 This is one of those weird passages in the Old Testament. In my mind is reiterates what a jealous, callous god God is during this time. He is all judgment and punishment...far from a loving dude No wonder he had jewsus killed |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by adoniza(m): 5:39pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: From the atheist's who stands against everything he represents... It's only the deluded humans that tends to do so and even go on to threaten with the old words "the wrath of God" which never happens. And he (God) would just sit there doing nothing because he is absolutely powerless and can't do nada |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Johnchike(m): 5:41pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Demain_man:Jesus died for the sake of mankind. He took our place on the cross. Jesus died because of our sins. Example: A principal says any student who litters the floor must be flogged. One day, some students littered the floor with so much dirt, the principal then decides to punish them. Remember, it's the law: The punishment for littering the floor is flogging! Then suddenly, the principal's Son decides to save these students out of love he has for them. He tries to plead with his father. The father says: I can't go back on my words. I've been forgiving them before but they are just stubborn. They've decided not to stop. They even mock me. I regret admitting them as students. I have decreed, the punishment must be meted out. Then the son says “Okay Father, flog me instead. Let me serve the punishment on their behalf, let me pay the price for them”. The Father thinks, how can I flog my own son? The Son says; Father if you don't flog me the staff and students would say you are partial. I'm willing to accept the punishment. This is exactly what Jesus did for us on the Cross. Jesus died for us, he took the punishment meant for us. He saved us thus giving us salvation. The only way to partake under the umbrella of His love and salvation is to repent, believe in Him as your Saviour and avoid sin(don't litter the ground again). Jesus, I love you. Thank you Jesus Christ.
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Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by DASKACE(m): 5:43pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
ifeness: Hunger, tensions that exist here are as a result of the faulty foundation laid by our first parents. Psalm 11:3 "If the foundations are destroyed, What can the righteous do?". Never mind, a new foundation will be laid soonest that will be anchored on righteousness devoid of consequences of sin. Isaiah 65:17 "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind". |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by kpolli(m): 5:49pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
bolaino: It's a question that should be answered with utmost sincerity, with all honesty and with no religious bias (but I doubt my christian folks will be able to do that). First bolded part, name them. Second bolded part, if you did... You would die, so how would you spend it? Obvious you didn't think before you typed.... That's how fools kill themselves expecting to meet 40 virgins in hell... 2 Likes |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Ayopercent(m): 5:50pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish FOOLISHNESS:but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.1cor 1 vs 18 |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by adoniza(m): 5:56pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
DASKACE: What is the holy spirit and where does he live? Can you prove he exists? Bro, just open your eyes and see, this is ridiculous. Think about it. The bible is way too childish. Funny enough, God(omniscient) already knew you would be on nairaland today, and he also knows weather or not you would goto heaven, and weather you like it or not you simply can't change that nomatter how much sin you commit. If you change that, then he is not omniscient. So my point is, why bother yourself with the burden of trying to make heaven while your destiny is already known to him and cannot be changed? |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Connoisseur(m): 5:58pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
This is a battle against what i ve been taught and what i think its true |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!! are you VERY SURE of that? what else do you know about the story apart from what you were told?? |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Demainman1: 6:03pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: Did not the bible also say that the 'the soul that sinneth shall die?'[/b]Ezekiel 18:20 [b]What i think the @OP is saying in this write-up which no one seems to be addressing is that Jesus is God, Jesus knew that he can be killed and he will rise again after three days because he is GOD. So dying will hold no fear for him since he is GOD anyway. GET IT ALL? Human beings are afraid of death because we don't know where we are going after death. IF we were like JESUS who is GOD and who created death and can rise up again after death, we will definitely not be afraid to die, whether by the cross, or drowning, or bullet!!! BECAUSE WE WILL SIMPLY RISE AGAIN ANYTIME WE WANT. GET IT?? |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 6:05pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
adoniza: God doesn't need to protect himself from anyone. He loves everyone even the atheist and he wants that atheist to repent and come on to him. I wish not to see the wrath of God, please pray not to. God has given everyone free will. Even hitler had free will. We commit such sin against him and each other every day but stop and think, if he gets involved in our petty squabbles we will look @ him with small eyes. He is above all that now. He is the Oga at the top. He has all the power. I can just imagine him in heaven accepting the souls of those hitler killed to rest with him in heaven. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by adoniza(m): 6:06pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: The bible stated that God is "unchangeable" i.e his wisdom and ideas remain the same forever. So why did he not realize that the animal sacrifies was not necessary in the first place?? And when he realized it, he then sent jesus to be the last and "ultimate" blood sacrifice. Now tell me, is there any atom of "perfect" in that figure (God) |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 6:07pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
ifeness: The wages of sin is death. The son shall die for remiaining in sin. Again that is the Old Testament. The New Testament is LOVE. Love your neigh our as yourself. Even if you choose not to love, God loves you. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 6:10pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
adoniza: God has promised the Jews a redeemer for a long time. Before the days of Isiah he had already them a redeemer, a king to make things new. He is perfect. Very perfect. He is unchangeable, his words do not change. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: Does look like you are dealing with different gods. One kills lil babies and the other one killed his own baby to set an example. Would you kill your child if yahweh ask you to? |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 6:14pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Demain_man: His death and resurrection goes beyond the physical. He didn't just,ie in the tomb for 2 days and get up on the 3rd. I believe there was some serious battle in the metaphysical. Then again that much I don't know, but I do know that the love and peace that Jesus gives me is truly magical |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Demainman1: 6:17pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
Daresh: Yes. HE ACCEPTED TO DIE BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WILL RISE AGAIN. Get it? I You are JESUS who is Also GOD and who can die and rise again at will. WILL YOU BE AFRAID OF DEATH? Let me put it straight to you. JESUS did not die. He only SLEPT for 3 days. Reason? He is GOD and GOD cannot DIE because he is OMINIPRESENT. On the other hand LAZARUS died. He was already smelling when JESUS/GOD got to him and raised him from the death. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by jmoore(m): 6:19pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
bolaino: Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners. No human is pure enough to be used as a sacrifice. Jesus Christ is the perfect sacrifice. That Jesus who is God chose to come down in human form is a big deal. He brought himself low Carnal minds such as atheists and co will never understand the things of the spirit hence their wallowing in ignorance. |
Re: Was The Sacrifice Of Jesus On The Cross That Big A Deal? by Daresh(f): 6:20pm On Apr 23, 2013 |
ifeness: I'm dealing with one God. He doesn't kill babies he HATES sin. He didn't kill his baby, Jesus was sent to setup free. Yahweh doesn't want my babies dead because murder is a sin. So y will he ask me to kill my babies. God is spectacular he knows my needs b4 I need them and he is faithful and just. |
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