Kennedyiheme: Dnt ask me why but i am tired of christianity, we claim to be highly spiritual, but nothing in our country is workin..im frustrated...this churches jst collect our money....if God created humans, then pls explain why the asians look alike nd we dnt, physics took its course abeg

Hi Ken

Sorry about your troubles, my friend. But, you know, Christianity was never a promise that everything would become clouds and sunshine for us once we are born anew. Rather, we were promised that no matter the greatness of the trouble we may face from our enemy, we would always have what it takes to triumph over him.

The Spirit we received is a Spirit of power, of love and of a sound mind. It is up to us to learn to walk in Him, to live our lives directed and guided by Him it is in doing so that we steadily triumph over the many objections of the enemy.

For the unbeliever, life may seem easier, but it only seems so. Although it is quite true that the world would treat its own more kindly, the believer still does have enough of an advantage for any disfavor from the world to amount to no more than a lot of huffing and puffing to blow down a house of steel founded upon a rock.

Whatever you decide, I pray that you see the Truth.

Logicboy03:



smh....empty barrel

Don't let your head fall off...

Logicboy03:



Peace index
Human development index
atheists are more likely to be intelligent?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2111174/Intelligent-people-less-likely-to-believe-in-God.html


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Google is your friend.....

You mean the following article written in 2008?

People with higher IQs are less likely to believe in God, according to a new study.
Professor Richard Lynn, emeritus professor of psychology at Ulster University, said many more members of the "intellectual elite" considered themselves atheists than the national average.

A decline in religious observance over the last century was directly linked to a rise in average intelligence, he claimed.

But the conclusions - in a paper for the academic journal Intelligence - have been branded "simplistic" by critics.

Professor Lynn, who has provoked controversy in the past with research linking intelligence to race and sex, said university academics were less likely to believe in God than almost anyone else.

A survey of Royal Society fellows found that only 3.3 per cent believed in God - at a time when 68.5 per cent of the general UK population described themselves as believers.
A separate poll in the 90s found only seven per cent of members of the American National Academy of Sciences believed in God.

Professor Lynn said most primary school children believed in God, but as they entered adolescence - and their intelligence increased - many started to have doubts.

He told Times Higher Education magazine: "Why should fewer academics believe in God than the general population? I believe it is simply a matter of the IQ. Academics have higher IQs than the general population. Several Gallup poll studies of the general population have shown that those with higher IQs tend not to believe in God."
He said religious belief had declined across 137 developed nations in the 20th century at the same time as people became more intelligent.

But Professor Gordon Lynch, director of the Centre for Religion and Contemporary Society at Birkbeck College, London, said it failed to take account of a complex range of social, economic and historical factors.
"Linking religious belief and intelligence in this way could reflect a dangerous trend, developing a simplistic characterisation of religion as primitive, which - while we are trying to deal with very complex issues of religious and cultural pluralism - is perhaps not the most helpful response," he said.

Dr Alistair McFadyen, senior lecturer in Christian theology at Leeds University, said the conclusion had "a slight tinge of Western cultural imperialism as well as an anti-religious sentiment".

Dr David Hardman, principal lecturer in learning development at London Metropolitan University, said: "It is very difficult to conduct true experiments that would explicate a causal relationship between IQ and religious belief. Nonetheless, there is evidence from other domains that higher levels of intelligence are associated with a greater ability - or perhaps willingness - to question and overturn strongly felt institutions."

The italicized: Did you research what the critics described as "simplistic"?

The underlined: did you research this previous paper of his and the controversy it generated?

The colored: did you verify these statements or you accepted them on his authority?

The bolded: did this count in your conclusion?

Note that I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong

Ihedinobi:

You mean the following article written in 2008?



The italicized: Did you research what the critics described as "simplistic"?

The underlined: did you research this previous paper of his and the controversy it generated?

The colored: did you verify these statements or you accepted them on his authority?

The bolded: did this count in your conclusion?

Note that I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong

Pick and choose. You picked the parts of the article you liked and left the parts that you didnt like- just like how you do with the bible.

Did you miss the part of the article;
-that said that only 3.3% of the Royal societies believe in God or only 7% of American Academy of sciences believe in god.
-that there are gallup polls that show that people with higher iqs tend to not believe in god.

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Even at that, that is only on article of of many on religion and intelligence that show that disbelief in God is positively related to higher iq or intelligence. You are free to google but your dubious nature wont let you.

striktlymi:

The girl represents your white masters given LB's brain some good washing...

How am I a slave to white masters? You cant answer with a simple sentence.

Do you just make false accusations all the time?


You on the other hand, are a jewish slave to a jewish religion that was used to enslave your forefathers. Is that a lie? Did majority of churches not support slavery? Wasnt the transatlantic slavery justified on biblical grounds? Even your catholic church put slavery into its canon in the 13th century.

See, I can back my claims with evidence and logic....you cant

striktlymi:

The girl represents your white masters given LB's brain some good washing...

Your descent into full blown troll is rather sad. Grasp, grasp those straws

The picture was funny though

Logicboy03:
How am I a slave to white masters? You cant answer with a simple sentence.

Do you just make false accusations all the time?


You on the other hand, are a jewish slave to a jewish religion that was used to enslave your forefathers. Is that a lie? Did majority of churches not support slavery? Wasnt the transatlantic slavery justified on biblical grounds? Even your catholic church put slavery into its canon in the 13th century.

See, I can back my claims with evidence and logic....you cant

**Face in palm**...ah mehn...he still doesn't know how...

wiegraf:

Your descent into full blown troll is rather sad. Grasp, grasp those straws

The picture was funny though

Look who's talking...

striktlymi:

**Face in palm**...ah mehn...he still doesn't know how...

lol....striky has nothing.

#debunked

Logicboy03:


lol....striky has nothing.

#debunked

Awwwwww...isn't that lovely...saying that really makes you feel good...let me help you out...


#debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked

striktlymi:

Awwwwww...isn't that lovely...saying that really makes you feel good...let me help you out...


#debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked #debunked

Trolling is taking a toll on your sanity

Logicboy03:


Trolling is taking a toll on your sanity

Sanity ke? Has there ever been a time I was sane? Nah mehn....

Logicboy03:



Pick and choose. You picked the parts of the article you liked and left the parts that you didnt like- just like how you do with the bible.

Lol. Lb, isn't that what you yourself did as you evidence below?

Did you miss the part of the article;
-that said that only 3.3% of the Royal societies believe in God or only 7% of American Academy of sciences believe in god.
-that there are gallup polls that show that people with higher iqs tend to not believe in god.

===================================

Of course I didn't miss it. I posted the whole article, didn't I? I assumed you already saw those parts and liked them since you actually came here to quote them to me.

Perhaps I should also ask if you bothered to verify those figures.

Even at that, that is only on article of of many on religion and intelligence that show that disbelief in God is positively related to higher iq or intelligence. You are free to google but your dubious nature wont let you.

I'm sure there's nothing preventing you from citing the myriad others you have in your arsenal. I'm not stopping you, I promise.

And, er, it may actually be true, my friend, that the "smarter" people get the lessthey care about God. That's not a mark against Christ. He did say that He came for the weak, the poor, those who were in need of help and knew it. He has never helped the proud and able except in.breaking their pride and exposing their true inability.

However, once He has helped the weak, stupid ones like me, He brings us to Nairaland exactly to show what a farce the intelligence of proud unbelievers is.

I dnt knw if its patience, but God shld undrstand that everybdy body doesnt hve the virtue of patience.....i remember wen i pray for a average of 4hours at a go almost everyday.....bt things never changed

Kennedyiheme: I dnt knw if its patience, but God shld undrstand that everybdy body doesnt hve the virtue of patience.....i remember wen i pray for a average of 4hours at a go almost everyday.....bt things never changed

Morning young sir,

What exactly is the problem? Is it your finances?

Kennedyiheme: I dnt knw if its patience, but God shld undrstand that everybdy body doesnt hve the virtue of patience.....i remember wen i pray for a average of 4hours at a go almost everyday.....bt things never changed

I don't know, bro. But if it is patience, then we have Christ in us and we can use His patience if that is what we need.

However, it may not be merely about things changing for us. The Lord may be waiting for us to gird up our loins and take hold of His Power to change things ourselves.

You see, prayer is actually used to learn what our Lord is thinking and to come into agreement with Him on it. Once we have, we can go out from the place of prayer with His Power to change our world to suit His thoughts and Purposes which in the place of Prayer have become our own thoughts and purposes as well.

striktlymi:


Morning young sir,

What exactly is the problem? Is it your finances?

yea my finance is the problem, and thing expected to work out never did

Kennedyiheme: yea my finance is the problem, and thing expected to work out never did

Ken, it;s time for some candid talk...

Inadequate finances can indeed be a bittch...it's bad enough being relegated to the less than dignified position of a second class citizen in your very own country let alone coming to terms with the harsh economic climate.

I shiit you not when I tell you that Nigeria is indeed a gold mine for those who have less than enough foresight to see. There are countless things one can do to make it in Nigeria but you have to figure out what you have in order to get what you want...

Some persons have decided that formal education will be their ticket out, while some others believe that delving into business directly is the way to go...some others still believe that combining both is the best bet...it really depends but know your talent first of and use it to make ends meet.

Now to the ish of your prayers being filed at the bottom of God's cabinet...Ken, God always answers our prayers...the question you should ask yourself is whether or not you are open to the response he will or has given you...to some it is wait, to others it is NO, while some others still it is YES...

Post is getting rather long...anyways, if what you are asking from God is obviously what he has given to you already then it won't be fair on your part to still 'disturb' his divine majesty about it...you spend 4 hours in prayers everyday Do you know you can pray while you work?

Look, Ken

Dont let this deluded clowns who believe in god make your life even more miserable than it already is.

Faith in yourself, in your abilities and in your strength is the right application of faith, but a fact remains - faith in god is an abuse of faith, it is a condition of hysterical faith, just like too much of drug equals drug abuse, having faith in an invisible skydaddy, who let things go wrong for you in the first place is also an abuse of faith.

Now that you are still alive, that means you are strong and fit to survive, believing in a god encroaches on your survival, god is like a parasite that kills and makes one miserable, just as you have experienced.

The awareness of god does nothing good to man but gives us a fake sense of security in time of trouble, it gives a false sense of assurance when things are not certain, and you know what that leads to - complacency - it makes you accept bad situations all in the name of faith and hope for good times, your life will only become wasted as it is evident already if you continue to believe in god.

Drop your faith and look into yourself only, this is the only way to success. Remember that 98% of all successful people in the world are either atheists or agnostics

Peace

ooman: Look, Ken

Dont let this deluded clowns who believe in god make your life even more miserable than it already is.

Faith in yourself, in your abilities and in your strength is the right application of faith, but a fact remains - faith in god is an abuse of faith, it is a condition of hysterical faith, just like too much of drug equals drug abuse, having faith in an invisible skydaddy, who let things go wrong for you in the first place is also an abuse of faith.

Now that you are still alive, that means you are strong and fit to survive, believing in a god encroaches on your survival, god is like a parasite that kills and makes one miserable, just as you have experienced.

The awareness of god does nothing good to man but gives us a fake sense of security in time of trouble, it gives a false sense of assurance when things are not certain, and you know what that leads to - complacency - it makes you accept bad situations all in the name of faith and hope for good times, your life will only become wasted as it is evident already if you continue to believe in god.

Drop your faith and look into yourself only, this is the only way to success. Remember that 98% of all successful people in the world are either atheists or agnostics

Peace

^OP he is talking about the christian God.

you dont need to lose faith in the Spiritual world just because christianity makes you do so. you can still believe in Gods without christianity/islam.

^^^^
Nice one Ooman... By the way, there are so many fallacies Ihe and Styk will pick up from your post.. Hope you're ready to do a Sergio Ramos...

ooman: Look, Ken

Dont let this deluded clowns who believe in god make your life even more miserable than it already is.

Faith in yourself, in your abilities and in your strength is the right application of faith, but a fact remains - faith in god is an abuse of faith, it is a condition of hysterical faith, just like too much of drug equals drug abuse, having faith in an invisible skydaddy, who let things go wrong for you in the first place is also an abuse of faith.

Now that you are still alive, that means you are strong and fit to survive, believing in a god encroaches on your survival, god is like a parasite that kills and makes one miserable, just as you have experienced.

The awareness of god does nothing good to man but gives us a fake sense of security in time of trouble, it gives a false sense of assurance when things are not certain, and you know what that leads to - complacency - it makes you accept bad situations all in the name of faith and hope for good times, your life will only become wasted as it is evident already if you continue to believe in god.

Nice evangelizing man...your flying pig would be proud...

ooman:
Drop your faith and look into yourself only, this is the only way to success. Remember that 98% of all successful people in the world are either atheists or agnostics

....aaaaaand he had to press the 'spoil button'

musKeeto: ^^^^
Nice one Ooman... By the way, there are so many fallacies Ihe and Styk will pick up from your post.. Hope you're ready to do a Sergio Ramos...

Lol!!!


Don't worry I decided to go with just one

Ihedinobi:

Lol. Lb, isn't that what you yourself did as you evidence below?



Of course I didn't miss it. I posted the whole article, didn't I? I assumed you already saw those parts and liked them since you actually came here to quote them to me.

Perhaps I should also ask if you bothered to verify those figures.



I'm sure there's nothing preventing you from citing the myriad others you have in your arsenal. I'm not stopping you, I promise.

And, er, it may actually be true, my friend, that the "smarter" people get the lessthey care about God. That's not a mark against Christ. He did say that He came for the weak, the poor, those who were in need of help and knew it. He has never helped the proud and able except in.breaking their pride and exposing their true inability.

However, once He has helped the weak, stupid ones like me, He brings us to Nairaland exactly to show what a farce the intelligence of proud unbelievers is.

lol see how my guy change “smart” to “proud”.......dubious fella. Dull people can be proud. Smart people can be weak or can be poor.


All the epistle wont change.the fact that intelligent people are less likely to believe in god or be religious.

Atheism and intelligence.....google it
Religion and intelligence....google it. There are numerous studies and articles on it but your religios pride, ignorance and dishonesty wont let you.



As for the numbers, they are well verified

striktlymi:

Look who's talking...

Ah, good troll, assuming this refers to my logic, don't get ahead of yourself. I might be many things, including a sometime proud troll, but I don't toss around strawmen.

Say one thing now, retract the next second, make an inane comment. Then repeat. What is wrong with you?

It's like you guys take turns lying, stealing and cheating in your desperate attempts to convince all and sundry that the stark na.ked emperor actually has a designer suit on. This last 2 weeks I think it's been mostly you, ijawkid and ihe. I think kails popped up a few times as well. And the comedy troupe of emusan and profdada. Tbf, it would seem ihe is consistent in his nonsense. (I wouldn't know for sure as I stopped caring a while back, he's very much my man though, unlike his abominable mentor)

Anyways your masters have run off for whatever reason (usually a pummeling) and I can't really say y'all are doing a decent job holding up the fort. Most of said masters were piss poor mind you, but incredibly, they might be better than the current crop

striktlymi:

Nice evangelizing man...your flying pig would be proud...



....aaaaaand he had to press the 'spoil button'

actually, my claims are supported.

Mark of Facebook was a Jewish God worshipper until Facebook, now he is a self professed, PROUD atheist among many others

striktlymi:

Lol!!!


Don't worry I decided to go with just one

because all others are irrefutable.

Am speaking from personal experience too man.

wiegraf:

Ah, good troll, assuming this refers to my logic, don't get ahead of yourself. I might be many things, including a sometime proud troll, but I don't toss around strawmen.

Say one thing now, retract the next second, make an inane comment. Then repeat. What is wrong with you?

It's like you guys take turns lying, stealing and cheating in your desperate attempts to convince all and sundry that the stark na.ked emperor actually has a designer suit on. This last 2 weeks I think it's been mostly you, ijawkid and ihe. I think kails popped up a few times as well. And the comedy troupe of emusan and profdada. Tbf, it would seem ihe is consistent in his nonsense. (I wouldn't know for sure as I stopped caring a while back, he's very much my man though, unlike his abominable mentor)

Anyways your masters have run off for whatever reason (usually a pummeling) and I can't really say y'all are doing a decent job holding up the fort. Most of said masters were piss poor mind you, but incredibly, they might be better than the current crop

With stryk and ik, you know they choose to believe despite the evidence.

With Image123roll, you know the evidence will never be enough.. One happy Jewish slave..


Ihdinobi would work for Yahweh for free even if Yahweh released him...

wiegraf:

Ah, good troll, assuming this refers to my logic, don't get ahead of yourself. I might be many things, including a sometime proud troll, but I don't toss around strawmen.

Say one thing now, retract the next second, make an inane comment. Then repeat. What is wrong with you?

It's like you guys take turns lying, stealing and cheating in your desperate attempts to convince all and sundry that the stark na.ked emperor actually has a designer suit on. This last 2 weeks I think it's been mostly you, ijawkid and ihe. I think kails popped up a few times as well. And the comedy troupe of emusan and profdada. Tbf, it would seem ihe is consistent in his nonsense. (I wouldn't know for sure as I stopped caring a while back, he's very much my man though, unlike his abominable mentor)

Anyways your masters have run off for whatever reason (usually a pummeling) and I can't really say y'all are doing a decent job holding up the fort. Most of said masters were piss poor mind you, but incredibly, they might be better than the current crop

sorry to quote you but those three bolded are actually jokers i find amusing. Their level of intelligence is less than that of a 2 years old

wiegraf:

Ah, good troll, assuming this refers to my logic, don't get ahead of yourself. I might be many things, including a sometime proud troll, but I don't toss around strawmen.

The bold is the only thing that is needed...

wiegraf:
Say one thing now, retract the next second, make an inane comment. Then repeat. What is wrong with you?

It's like you guys take turns lying, stealing and cheating in your desperate attempts to convince all and sundry that the stark na.ked emperor actually has a designer suit on. This last 2 weeks I think it's been mostly you, ijawkid and ihe. I think kails popped up a few times as well. And the comedy troupe of emusan and profdada. Tbf, it would seem ihe is consistent in his nonsense. (I wouldn't know for sure as I stopped caring a while back, he's very much my man though, unlike his abominable mentor)

Anyways your masters have run off for whatever reason (usually a pummeling) and I can't really say y'all are doing a decent job holding up the fort. Most of said masters were piss poor mind you, but incredibly, they might be better than the current crop

Empty!!!