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Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 11:32am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: This gets more and more hilarious. He writes the above and turns about to insist that humans are animals. Men, it really cant get any funnier that this! Just read the bold, and then reflect on the fact that this same man says humans are animals! Humans commit these actions everyday? Everyday do you have humans eating their partners after copulation? O, to each his own. Spiders may eat partners, they are animals. No wrong there. Lions may kill cubs, they are animals, no wrong there. Humans may murder, r.ape and plunder. They are animals, no wrong there. Capisce? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 11:35am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Please explain how I am using the word in a strange way. Your comment didn't say anything about it.What do you think I said? Explain what you understood from my comment so I know if you read me correctly. Yes. Taking care of babies for fun is more moral than torturing them for fun. Now is there a spectrum of right and wrong answers to the question of 2 + 2?But taking care of babies for fun is an entirely different moral activity from torturing babies for fun. In the same way that 3+3 is greater than 2+2 but 3+3 and 2+2 are entirely different mathematical exercises. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 11:35am On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: This is just ridiculous. Humans are animals. They're not plants or bacteria, they belong to a certain taxonomic kingdom. You just seem unable to see past the error in your reasoning. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 11:37am On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: thehomer: thehomer: .........[size=13pt]The man of this school goes first to a political meeting, where he complains that savages are treated as if they were beasts; then he takes his hat and umbrella and goes on to a scientific meeting, where he proves that they practically are beasts[/size]....... - GK Chesterton (1908) |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 11:40am On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: [size=20pt]! ! ! ! ! ! ! ![/size] Pasitor, you hia? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I HOPE YOU SEE THE POINT! |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 11:44am On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: That's just it. I don't know how you're using it. Mr anony: You said: Mr anony: That means if two people come to you and ask for a drink, it is fine to give them both milk irrespective of the individual feature of someone being lactose intolerant. Mr anony: Okay how about taking care of babies for fun and taking care of babies for money. Which is more moral? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 11:44am On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: [size=20pt]! ! ! ! ! ! ! ![/size] Thehomher, you hia? Its actually rib-cracking funny that you dont see the point here clearly! LOL! I really cant stop laughing. Humans are animals, and yet it is wrong for them to do as animals do, just smarter. You positively cant be serious. Read Chesterton's words above again! Joker! |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 11:46am On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: Still don't see your point here. Does the man of this school go to the scientific meeting to beat up his colleagues and take their land? The general point of the quote is pretty clear. When you start splitting it up, you'll just be destroying his point. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 11:47am On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: You do know that there are many different species of animals out there. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 11:52am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: O yes of course, that they can and do have different habits and methods of killing and plundering. Particularly predatory territorial animals - which we certainly are - according to your othordoxy. Why would you say that is ok for some predatory territorial animals (Such as Lions or Hyenas) to kill and plunder but is wrong or evil for another set of predatory territorial animals(such as humans) to kill or plunder? Cos there are smarter? Since they are smarter, why is it wrong for them to use their smarts to get better in terms of their predatory territorial nature? LOL. You're making my sunday with comedy. Pure unadulterated COMEDY! |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 11:57am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:too bad. Perhaps if you told me what you know the word sacred to mean, I might be able to help you You said:But then you wouldn't be giving them milk in the same context. To one you would be giving him milk knowing that it he is lactose intolerant and to another you would be giving milk knowing that he isn't Okay how about taking care of babies for fun and taking care of babies for money. Which is more moral?Again you have presented two different moral contexts |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 11:58am On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: Do you think that the fact that humans are "smarter" and can exercise judgement is something significantly different? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 11:59am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Lol, as I said, I never expected you to get the point. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 11:59am On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: Let me translate from English to English to suit your unfortunate situation: [size=14pt]The man of this school goes to a forum and argues that humans should not be considered as animals in terms of their morals. He then picks his hat and umbrella and proceeds to a scientific meeting where he argues forcefully that human are animals.[/size] LWKMD! ! ! Honestly? As, in, really? Tell me you don't work with a travelling circus! Hahahahahahahaaha! Joker! |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:02pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Lololololol..........does this mean that there might be some species of animals we can derive moral precepts from? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:03pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: Wiktionary: Mr anony: So is it objectively wrong to give someone with lactose intolerance milk or not? Mr anony: How do you determine which is more moral? And is this determination objective? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 12:04pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: If you think that animals cannot and do not excercise VERY KEEN AND SPECIFIC judgment, then you need to start watching Natgeo Wild and Animal Planet a little more, son. You are not well acquainted with the ways of animals. Now, I asked, and I keep asking: 1. You agree that we are animals 2. You agree that we are predatory and territorial animals. Why on earth would it then be wrong for a predatory territorial animal to use its bigger brain and smarter sense to perfect its predatory and territorial arts? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:04pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: But I see how apt it is when it comes to religious orthodoxy. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:04pm On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight:Abeg DeepSight, no use laugh wound me this morning. It still amuses me that he really can't see it |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:08pm On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: You're simply confused but I'm sure you can still see the light. I already asked you: thehomer: |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:11pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Nah, Orthodoxy is the name of the book itself, that passage was in reference irrational skepticism it (is believed GK Chesterton was criticizing George Bernard Shaw for his politics and two-way criticisms on both the church of england and those who criticized the church). You might want to read the book, it is quite a good read. If I asked you how it aptly describes religious orthodoxy I am sure you would be able to tell me. Would you mind doing the honors good sir. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 12:11pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: Honestly, i wish you could see me in my study right now. I'm literally rolling over with laughter. Unbelievable comedy! I hope my houseboy wont think oga has gone mad, laughing all by himself in his "office" as he calls my study! LOL, thehomer, BIG LOL! Abeg here's ya answer - Deep Sight: |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:11pm On May 26, 2013 |
Deep Sight: This is not an answer to the question I asked you but I'll answer yours. I hope you'll answer mine. It is wrong when it comes to moral considerations. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:13pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: That still doesn't stop it from showing what religious orthodoxy is. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:15pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Don't you also think that they can use their smartness and better judgment to come up with more effective ways of raping women and torturing babies for fun? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:16pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:If I asked you how it aptly describes religious orthodoxy I am sure you would be able to tell me. Would you mind doing the honors good sir. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:17pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: Sure they could but is that a significant difference when it comes to comparing humans to e.g a preying mantis? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:18pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:What are these moral considerations if I may ask? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by DeepSight(m): 12:20pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer: What is the meaning of this? ? ? ? ? ? Abeg I don tire reading arrant NANSENSE this morning. Go the the ward for pathological comedians and tell the Director there that I highly recommend you. He will gladly receive you. Morning! |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by Mranony: 12:21pm On May 26, 2013 |
thehomer:Why a praying mantis, why not a chicken, a gorrilla, a dog, a shark or an ant. What exactly is this "significant" difference that prescribes what moral actions a man ought to take? |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:22pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: I'll do that using simple examples. God is perfectly fine with slavery. God is also perfectly fine with genocide. So what we see is that books of religious orthodoxy say something that is argued for and justified in church but then chose church people go out and protest against the acts they defended in church. |
Re: The Basis Of Human Morality by thehomer: 12:22pm On May 26, 2013 |
Mr anony: Whether or not it is appropriate for humans to treat each other in that way. |
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