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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Ojiofor: 9:55pm On May 19, 2013
the title of his new book is called, OF AFRICA.........It has sold 25 copies worldwide.... grin
babyosisi:

Who reads those works
That is the question
How many has he sold ?
The amount he has sold is not documented, that shows you it not as significant as many other writers.
He is a smart man,yes but his works are not as popular going by book sales
None of his works are required texts not even in Nigeria
At the end of the day,it is all about the numbers

At the time Achebe published his memoirs,WS also wrote a book,who knows the title of Wole's book?
Many are just hearing of that book there from you

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Musiwa aka becomerich churns out a thousand threads every blessed week,who reads and contributes in them [/size] grin grin grin
It is not by the amount of books dear

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Crayola1: 9:56pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson: Spot the difference in baba in his 30s, 50s and 70s.

He fired his comb and barber as the years went on grin
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 9:57pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson: Spot the difference in baba in his 30s, 50s and 70s.

Ijebu men are sexy even I as an Igbo woman will acknowledge that
I asked an Ijebu friend to trace their ancestry
In looks and mannerisms especially their go getter attitude,they must have some similar origin with Igbos
That is another thread altogether
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by NeoXVI: 9:59pm On May 19, 2013
shymexx:

No, the only reason why people compare Achebe to Soyinka is because of his "Things Fall Apart" book that counteracted Joseph Conrad's racist "Heart of Darkness." He fed off that energy and truth be told, without that energy, I doubt Achebe belongs to the same class as WS in literature, in its purest form.

That's the truth and nothing but the truth!!

I'm out, yo!! undecided

SMH. Complete BS!!!

TFA had nothing to do with Conrad's Heart of Darkness. It wasn't until 1975 that Achebe's reply to Conrad's work titled "An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's Heart of Darkness" was published whereas TFA was published in 1958, a whole 17 years before that.

People come here arguing about things they know nothing of and passing off a whole lot of misinformation. Damn shame.

Meanwhile there's potent tribalism all over this thread. Babyosisi has continually dealt you guys blow after hard blow, but had the magnanimity to concede that she reveres WS. I have yet to see the same magnanimity on the other side. You guys have refused to accept the judgement of peerless folks like Nadine Gordimer who labeled CA FATHER OF MODERN AFRICAN LITERATURE.

Don't let jealousy eat your young hearts away grin grin grin

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:02pm On May 19, 2013
Neo-XVI:


SMH. Complete BS!!!

TFA had nothing to do with Conrad's Heart of Darkness. It wasn't until 1975 that Achebe's reply to Conrad's work titled "An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's Heart of Darkness" was published whereas TFA was published in 1958, a whole 17 years before that.

People come here arguing about things they know nothing of and passing off a whole lot of misinformation. Damn shame.

Meanwhile there's potent tribalism all over this thread. Babyosisi has continually dealt you guys blow after hard blow, but had the magnanimity to concede that she reveres WS. I have yet to see the same magnanimity on the other side. You guys have refused to accept the judgement of peerless folks like Nadine Gordimer who labeled CA FATHER OF MODERN AFRICAN LITERATURE.

Don't let jealousy eat your young hearts away grin grin grin

That may not be true
Don't underestimate the power of racism

Prior to 1975,how many black men had received the Nobel prize in science or arts?
How many women?
It was and is still largely a white male club now just beginning to include others
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ajanaku2(m): 10:03pm On May 19, 2013
One_Naira: oooh it's so sad reading this. I'm so disappointed. SMH. how the mighty has falling. it cannot be wole soyinka that said this, it just cannot be. SMH!!!! he's the only one from clan that we all can attest does not have petty jealousy and enviness for those that achieved more than him. such a shame, our opinion of him is so far from the truth. wole soyinka please noooo. say it is not so. reading this article, it's easy to see jealousy towards his colleague, it's sad too cause he never showed this envy when his colleague was alive. smh. wole soyinka give props when props is due. Chinua Achebe did not name himself "father of modern African literature", another African did and the entire world accepted it as fact. stop being jealous, noone is taking your achievement from you by calling CA that. The feat he was able to do was not an easy task. if it was, you, WS, would have achieved it as well and till this day you have not. CA is the number one Nigerian author recognized by others; chiamanda is getting there but even she haven't touched the greatness of CA. CA has single handily promoted other African writersdentified, including your own, without even saying a word. in my 11th grade, our literature book contained small sections of Chinua achebe's work and one of your poetry. At the end book, the authors identified what inspired them to include the works in their textbook. underneath your name and poetry, the author specifically mentioned it was CA works that sent them looking for other Nigerian authors to see if there is anyone worthy like CA.
CA things fall apart, fiction or not, is the only African book that we know that that've intrigued the world to seek and learn about African culture prior to colonization. SMH @WS. it's such a shame he fell this low. you can see the jealousy oozing off from the comment where he mentioned "CA is just a storyteller". what does he, WS, think he is? is he not just a story teller as well? all literature writes are story tellers. I pray to God, it is old age coming out. I pray that man is not being influenced negatively in that country. This is like the third time he's dissappointed me this year. I pray it's just old age.


“The fact that Wole Soyinka was awarded the Nobel Prize does not make him the Asiwaju (Leader) of African literature” - Achebe

How about that for unbridled Jealousy!
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by DerideGull(m): 10:07pm On May 19, 2013
Afam4eva:
The truth is that, the only reason why people try to compare Soyinka to Achebe is unconnected with the fact that Soyinka won the Nobel prize. Had he not won it, he would have just been regarded with the likes of Elechi Amadi, Cyprian Ekwensi, Ola Rotimit etc.


Wola Soyinka in a literary midget as far as authorship is concerned. As a playwright, WS is recognizable. It will be an insult and overreach to compare Wole Soyinka to an author such as Cyprian Ekwensi.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Crayola1: 10:08pm On May 19, 2013
ajanaku2:


“The fact that Wole Soyinka was awarded the Nobel Prize does not make him the Asiwaju (Leader) of African literature” - Achebe

How about that for unbridled Jealousy!

Please someone should verify this quote cheesy

Or is Soyinka Jesus a man without biases.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:08pm On May 19, 2013
This thread has been infested by those who know nothing but give titles to themselves. I mean those people that call themselves the Jews of Nigeria. Very soon they will make their son who led them to an ill prepared war in 1967 to 1970, 'Moses.' Moses indeed.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by NeoXVI: 10:09pm On May 19, 2013
babyosisi:

Prior to 1975,how many black men had received the Nobel prize in science or arts?
Answer that question please

It doesn't need any google search, this one grin

For my Yoruba warlords, "Father" in this case, does not mean progenitor or pioneer. It's a sign of respect for the one whose singular talent, courage and art put mother Africa on the global map and REWROTE centuries-old perceptions about Africa in the minds of European and American intelligentsia.

Accept in and live long cheesy
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ACM10: 10:10pm On May 19, 2013
BluIvy:

Hehehe! Igbos and their creative mouths, at first it was 15 now 50.

Source please or just mention one language that it was translated to except English which it was written in. Just one!

You people cannot continue claiming things with your mouth with no action to match that other wise you are history!

source

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:11pm On May 19, 2013
Crayola1:

Please someone should verify this quote cheesy

Or is Soyinka Jesus a man without biases.
You never read the interview. If you had you will know that WS quoted what you now doubt.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:12pm On May 19, 2013
Neo-XVI:


It doesn't need any google search, this one grin

For my Yoruba warlords, "Father" in this case, does not mean progenitor or pioneer. It's a sign of respect for the one whose singular talent, courage and art put mother Africa on the global map and REWROTE centuries-old perceptions about Africa in the minds of European and American intelligentsia.

Accept in and live long cheesy

Biko told them o

If WS had been the one given that title will they complain
Nobody else has a problem with it except some few Yorubas
Tua

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Crayola1: 10:12pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson: This thread has been infested by those who know nothing but give titles to themselves. I mean those people that call themselves the Jews of Nigeria. Very soon they will make their son who led them to an ill prepared war in 1967 to 1970, 'Moses.' Moses indeed.

This is the white flag of defeat boys and girls cool
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:13pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson:
You never read the interview. If you had you will know that WS quoted what you now doubt.

Maybe that was why he had the need to give it back
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ajanaku2(m): 10:13pm On May 19, 2013
one.east1:




You people are ordinary chest beaters. Post the link on the bold. You guys are just the same include the so called Soyinka.

Am telling you that outside yorubaland nobody knows who is soyinka..you want to argue with me. Just type Achebe's name on google and type Soyinka's.

The only gift Soyinka gave to Nigeria is campus cultism, whereas Achebe's book has been translated into over 50 languages and counting because of wide reach all over the world.

Ogbeni, nobody's saying Achebe's "Things fall apart" is not a good book and has not been translated into several languages....

As a matter of fact, that book is his only noteworthy book, the rest are just average...Should he be informally crowned as the "Father of modern African literature" just 'cos of one remarkable book?
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 10:14pm On May 19, 2013
ajanaku2:


“The fact that Wole Soyinka was awarded the Nobel Prize does not make him the Asiwaju (Leader) of African literature” - Achebe

How about that for unbridled Jealousy!

interesting enough I googled this exact word and excluding you and others that claimed CA said such on NL. one commentor mentioned it on saharareport, nowhere else seem to have such word. therefore, any link to support your accusation against CA
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Crayola1: 10:16pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson:
You never read the interview. If you had you will know that WS quoted what you now doubt.

I read the interview. Soyinka claimed he said it, when and where did Achebe say that. Or do we now take one man's word as the whole truth.

Show a newspaper clipping or someone backing up Soyinka's statement. If you guys are goung to hold Achebe to that standard, Soyinka will be held to the same one as well.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by ajanaku2(m): 10:16pm On May 19, 2013
Crayola1:

Please someone should verify this quote cheesy

Or is Soyinka Jesus a man without biases.

Did you read the article at all?

Amukunmeko jati jati!
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Nobody: 10:16pm On May 19, 2013
Afam4eva:
It's the truth to you. As a matter of fact, i rate the likes of Ola Rotimi and Cyprian ekwensi ahead of Soyinka anyday. Whenever Soyinka is being talked about in the media, the only thing you hear is "Nobel winner". They never talk about his body of work. But we hear of Achebe's "Things fall apart", "Arrow of God" and "man of the people". They shouldn't even be compared cos they're not mates in anyway.

Sigh.

Afam, you hear of this, you hear of that.... Which one have you read? undecided

Achebe could never pen poems or plays like Soyinka while Soyinka can't dream of writing fictional prose as well or as intriguing to the vast majority like Achebe. Its simple really.

With due respect to Rotimi and Ekwensi, WS' body of work is superior to theirs.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by NeoXVI: 10:16pm On May 19, 2013
ajanaku2:

Ogbeni, nobody's saying Achebe's "Things fall apart" is not a good book and has not been translated into several languages....

As a matter of fact, that book is his only noteworthy book, the rest are just average...Should he be informally crowned as the "Father of modern African literature" just 'cos of one remarkable book?

You even agree it is an informal title. So why is it eating you up inside? undecided

And since when did you become a book critic? Have you published any titles?

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Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by DerideGull(m): 10:17pm On May 19, 2013
Neo-XVI:


SMH. Complete BS!!!

TFA had nothing to do with Conrad's Heart of Darkness. It wasn't until 1975 that Achebe's reply to Conrad's work titled "An Image of Africa: Racism in Conrad's Heart of Darkness" was published whereas TFA was published in 1958, a whole 17 years before that.

People come here arguing about things they know nothing of and passing off a whole lot of misinformation. Damn shame.

Meanwhile there's potent tribalism all over this thread. Babyosisi has continually dealt you guys blow after hard blow, but had the magnanimity to concede that she reveres WS. I have yet to see the same magnanimity on the other side. You guys have refused to accept the judgement of peerless folks like Nadine Gordimer who labeled CA FATHER OF MODERN AFRICAN LITERATURE.

Don't let jealousy eat your young hearts away grin grin grin


Bros, we are dealing with empty-headed clowns whose engines run on tribal bias.
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by OneNaira6: 10:17pm On May 19, 2013
Ola Johnson:
You never read the interview. If you had you will know that WS quoted what you now doubt.

WS said it and we have nothing else to verify CA actually said it. again such a shame WS is descending so low. not only is he jealous of his colleague, he is also accusing his colleague wrongfully. smh. so disappointed today.

if you have link that verify CA said then we'll accept it. thus far, google can't find any
Re: Wole Soyinka's Interview About Chinua Achebe by Crayola1: 10:18pm On May 19, 2013
ajanaku2:

Ogbeni, nobody's saying Achebe's "Things fall apart" is not a good book and has not been translated into several languages....

As a matter of fact, that book is his only noteworthy book, the rest are just average...Should he be informally crowned as the "Father of modern African literature" just 'cos of one remarkable book?

If that's the case then thank God for Soyinka's nobel because no one even remembers the book that won him the damn thing.

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