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Re: I Need Help In Communicating by baby124: 11:28pm On May 22, 2013
Are you too much in a hurry to talk? Do you stutter/stammer? Take it easy and count 5secs before you talk. So that you can think of what you want to say in a clear, and well composed manner.Your choice of words will be better and It will help you think well before talking too. With time, it will become second nature.
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by tsmith(f): 10:48pm On May 23, 2013
esere826: I need help in communicating sad
Donno where to post this, but I believe that folks in the family section are mature and experienced and could help


I have never been shy of talking when a subject excites me
In fact I love lecturing/speaking

My challenge is that recently, I have come to realise that I am usually short of words when explaining issues
I feel that this might be making me look unitelligent

The reason for this challenge is that I am begining to know/learn more and more broad and diverse subject matters
I am therefore faced with an issue of multiple vocabulary/jargons associated with such diverse range of subject matters
Also my brain is always spinning with analysis, measuring issues, identifying risks, oppurtunities, gaps etc

So when I stand to talk, i find myself grappling with the challenge of sorting and sifting through huge repositories for the right words to best articulate my point
I find it easier to write (maybe because I can fire away and come back to think through and edit)
I hate talking slow, and dont want to end up with the slow slurred commuincation associated with some Nigerian big men


As anyone gone through this challenge before? How did you overcome it?
I really need help, I do not want this present communication challenge to propel me towards being an introvert sad

Thanks

I haven't read through all posts, so pardon me if I raise or ask questions that may have been addressed.

I kinda sense you are not in Nigeria, I.e. You are communicating out of your normal depth. I actually align with what you're going through, but I associated mine to be a result of child birth as I have noticed a massive difference with my comms before and after childbirth in terms of what we call 'fonee'

To make matters worse I made a career change after the birth of my 1st child, so there I was a 'cowboy' project analyst who claims to have years if experience dah dah dah (I guess lots of naija can relate with this).

being in unfamiliar but pressured terrains and the need to keep on top with the office project lingos saw my communication confidence take a nose dive. I start to stammer, simple words start to elude me and I end up coming across as a total bum!

Now with good 5 years experience and the fact that I do truly know my stuff, you would think it should be in the past, but hell no! The unfortunate thing is that I know I am far more intelligent than I come across at work. I hold a hid argument outside of work, state my case clearly and all, but even I laugh what I am like at work.

It's got me thinking more about the root cause and how best to circumvent this, a few of my analogies are:

1.) Im constantly over thinking how I comw across and sound, this is a major killer as one can't excel on all grounds if the brain is doing much at one time, yiu either focus on content and sound as d true african that I am, or focus in the delivery; fonee and articulation having prepped content ahead.

2.) Stop trying to be someone else or sounding like someone else. Its unfortunate but my default brain thinks Nigerian and then tries to translate to British office lingo; am example being ' we need to look at everything' compared to ' we need to consider all aspects/views. My default self would say the d 1st statement under pressure in a meeting but would use the 2nd in an email after 10 minutes of editing n synonyms. A defiant part of me feels shebi idea is need, but my alter ego knows I could do beta!

3.) Be prepped cannot be over emphasised, Obama as you see who is deemed a great orator has speeches that have been prepped and rehearsed. Your confidence grows when you know you have delivered quality 'shiit' and this would overtime help you to ride the tide even when spurned an unexpected.

4.) Never fail to admit what you don't know but offer to come back with answers when you find out. You would be much respected this way

5.) Finally, emancipate yourself from 2nd class citizen's mentality. Those you are communicating with r no better than or created more special. At the end of the day, its all talk. The one who holds the floor might not necessarily have the best product, but might just be blessed with gift of the gap.

PS: the above might not necessarily relate to you, it's just my grail if only I did live by it myself, I would be much better

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Re: I Need Help In Communicating by tsmith(f): 10:59pm On May 23, 2013
AjanleKoko: Are you referring to verbal communication? Cos you write very well, at least here on NL.

If it is verbal communication, the frames of reference have to be defined. The way you communicate in workplace or business situations differs from the way you communicate in social and informal settings.

There is a plethora of text and training available for improving communication skills. I would however recommend a timeless classic: Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People. Fantastic read wink

Also, you should read a lot more classic literature (prose and poetry) if you want to learn language skills and how to use words in a clever manner. There is more than a thousand years' worth of that floating around, From Chaucer to Shakespeare, Pope to Cowley, Dryden to Byron, Kipling to Yeats. Also watch a lot of documentaries. You'll find that, when you know a lot of stuff, making conversation or giving impromptu talks won't be much of a challenge anymore.

Or you can go the whole hog and join Toastmasters International. Been thinking about doing that for a while now, I'll get round to it in a couple of years wink

I actually like the books you have referenced, this is the 2nd time the how to win friends book has been recommended to this issue. In fact I tire for myself on top it, I have taken elocution classes, seen a life coach who used hypnosis on me to no avail. I even started taking medicine to aid my memory 'coz the way simple spellings n words elude me, I thought I had dementia or alzhemier(wrong spelling I know). Maybe it's about time I took time out and read a book that could change my life, but naa lie the love if per day money won't allow such :-)
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by tsmith(f): 11:18pm On May 23, 2013
Haa haa, I sensed right, you r in obodo oyinbo like me, long n short, u get all the skills and knowledge that u can n return to your home country where you would be better appreciated and you don't need to keep paraphrasing your thoughts.

Someone also suggested to me about speaking at other non pressurized forums like church etc. Might work into building your public speaking confidence. Because the funny thing about me is that I relate n communicate well with other oyibos outside work environments; e.g. at my children's school, on the phone etc. (Which drives my 2nd class citizen point). But you should see me sometimes at work or interviews I stammer and I don't stammer in real life. Lol

now it seems it's a me party, as I'm the only one posting, but I so reckon with you on this. It's like you opened the thread for me and it's consoling that someone else in the world is some sort of similar shoes
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 10:11am On May 24, 2013
@tsmith

not to worry about some of your assumptions
but Wow!!
You got me thinking real good

Thanks
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 10:17am On May 24, 2013
tsmith: Haa haa, I sensed right, you r in obodo oyinbo like me, long n short, u get all the skills and knowledge that u can n return to your home country where you would be better appreciated and you don't need to keep paraphrasing your thoughts.
............
now it seems it's a me party, as I'm the only one posting, but I so reckon with you on this. It's like you opened the thread for me and it's consoling that someone else in the world is some sort of similar shoes

tsmith
no worry
I'll brink my mat and join u.
(Sorrow likes company)

Make we dissect this thing well, well
U never can tell,..... salvation might be awaiting around the corner
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by Ishilove: 10:34am On May 24, 2013
esere826:

Thanks
seems to be working grin

Also Thanks to all that contributed in attempting to give me a voice again
I also thank my mum, dad, siblings and aunties
thanks to my girlfriends, and concubines

special thanks also goes to my bingo who did not loose faith in me and kept on leaking my face in the face of my adversity

emmm...
thanks to my ....
i don tire
*picks nice female trophy and steps out of the stage*
*hears someone screaming in the background "hey... stop this is the familly section, you just took my wife"*

*hastens steps and makes for the exit with trophy in tow*
#Licking# embarassed

Yeye grin
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 10:42am On May 24, 2013
@tsmith

Yesterday, i impressed myself after soaking in this thread
I saw everyone I spoke with at the office nodding their head

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Re: I Need Help In Communicating by Ishilove: 11:07am On May 24, 2013
esere826: @tsmith

Yesterday, i impressed myself after soaking in this thread
I saw everyone I spoke with at the office nodding their head
grin
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 11:11am On May 24, 2013
tsmith:

I kinda sense you are not in Nigeria, I.e. You are communicating out of your normal depth. I actually align with what you're going through, but I associated mine to be a result of child birth as I have noticed a massive difference with my comms before and after childbirth in terms of what we call 'fonee'
I am indeed communicating out of my normal depth.
my fonee plus my use of business jargon (academic type) plus lack of correct terminolgy for present environment ,.. all join

To make matters worse I made a career change after the birth of my 1st child, so there I was a 'cowboy' project analyst who claims to have years if experience dah dah dah (I guess lots of naija can relate with this).
grin chei!! you are a naughty girl
Same here sha

being in unfamiliar but pressured terrains and the need to keep on top with the office project lingos saw my communication confidence take a nose dive. I start to stammer, simple words start to elude me and I end up coming across as a total bum!
that look in their eyes abi

Now with good 5 years experience and the fact that I do truly know my stuff, you would think it should be in the past, but hell no! The unfortunate thing is that I know I am far more intelligent than I come across at work. I hold a hid argument outside of work, state my case clearly and all, but even I laugh what I am like at work.
You probably exist in too many worlds while your work collagues exist in a singular world of work
afterall na you still dey sell bag and shoes for nairaland wink

It's got me thinking more about the root cause and how best to circumvent this, a few of my analogies are:

1.) Im constantly over thinking how I comw across and sound, this is a major killer as one can't excel on all grounds if the brain is doing much at one time, yiu either focus on content and sound as d true african that I am, or focus in the delivery; fonee and articulation having prepped content ahead.

2.) Stop trying to be someone else or sounding like someone else. Its unfortunate but my default brain thinks Nigerian and then tries to translate to British office lingo; am example being ' we need to look at everything' compared to ' we need to consider all aspects/views. My default self would say the d 1st statement under pressure in a meeting but would use the 2nd in an email after 10 minutes of editing n synonyms. A defiant part of me feels shebi idea is need, but my alter ego knows I could do beta!

3.) Be prepped cannot be over emphasised, Obama as you see who is deemed a great orator has speeches that have been prepped and rehearsed. Your confidence grows when you know you have delivered quality 'shiit' and this would overtime help you to ride the tide even when spurned an unexpected.

4.) Never fail to admit what you don't know but offer to come back with answers when you find out. You would be much respected this way

5.) Finally, emancipate yourself from 2nd class citizen's mentality. Those you are communicating with r no better than or created more special. At the end of the day, its all talk. The one who holds the floor might not necessarily have the best product, but might just be blessed with gift of the gap.

PS: the above might not necessarily relate to you, it's just my grail if only I did live by it myself, I would be much better

Sounds like you got yourself a tidy solution
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 11:13am On May 24, 2013
^^^

i always used to laugh when I hear babies/kids doing their: baba, godi uhni dudi

But I am begining to appreciate the mechanism of their verbal action
as they try their best to vocalize their feelings by trying to immitate the speech output of the adult human race all in a bid to produce desired outcomes

after trying for a while without getting required result response, they just scream
and hope somehow things sort themselves
I guess this thread is us screaming
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by Ishilove: 11:20am On May 24, 2013
esere826:

You probably exist in too many worlds while your work collagues exist in a singular world of work
afterall na you still dey sell bag and shoes for nairaland wink



#Colleagues# embarassed
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 11:24am On May 24, 2013
Ishilove:
#Colleagues# embarassed

good girl
I enjoy when someone tidies up after me
*Throws off the next sock towards the kichen*
wink
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by tsmith(f): 11:42am On May 24, 2013
esere826:
I am indeed communicating out of my normal depth.
my fonee plus my use of business jargon (academic type) plus lack of correct terminolgy for present environment ,.. all join


grin chei!! you are a naughty girl
Same here sha


that look in their eyes abi


You probably exist in too many worlds while your work collagues exist in a singular world of work
afterall na you still dey sell bag and shoes for nairaland wink



Sounds like you got yourself a tidy solution

You are nailing things down to a tee, I had and still have a million things going on at once, family (nuclear and extended), kids & their schooling, childcare, Nairaland ;-) name it! And you know what they say about Jack of all trades....

Also, at work, it's all an act, not my real self at all. One's brain us constantly in overdrive, it's not only about doing the job which is simple logic at the end of the day, but it's about how one sounds and comes across, checking each action against political correctness script and a aim to be culturally integrated and accepted.

The reality is sinking in daily, a leopard doesn't turn to a lion by simply washing off it's spots, you can't change who you are for someone else. And I truly love the real me, so I don't even want to change. At the end of the day if I get tired, naa to pack my bag return home, maybe 1 eyed me would become king in the country of the blind. (Just kidding at the blind pun, before I'm torn to shreds)

In the current climates especially with the woolich killing, it's tough enough holding one's head high at work
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by Nobody: 12:13am On May 28, 2013
@tsmith
lets not even go there about woolwich

wondering how it will be when i start to work
@esere
Hey stranger - remember me?
was about to clean up after you too but someone got there first i suppose.

the land of obodoyinbo and work mentality.
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 8:16am On May 28, 2013
salsera: @tsmith
lets not even go there about woolwich

wondering how it will be when i start to work
@esere
Hey stranger - remember me?
was about to clean up after you too but someone got there first i suppose.

the land of obodoyinbo and work mentality.

Hey LaCasera grin

How u dey naw?
Hope ur pushing through in the UK
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by Nobody: 6:00pm On May 28, 2013
I'll ignore that name.

I'm good, looking at getting some work experience this summer. In exam mode right now.

U still have my email right?
Talk later, need to do some justice to seafood okro this evening.
Re: I Need Help In Communicating by esere826: 6:14am On Jul 07
esere826:
I need help in communicating sad
Donno where to post this, but I believe that folks in the family section are mature and experienced and could help


I have never been shy of talking when a subject excites me
In fact I love lecturing/speaking

My challenge is that recently, I have come to realise that I am usually short of words when explaining issues
I feel that this might be making me look unitelligent

The reason for this challenge is that I am begining to know/learn more and more broad and diverse subject matters
I am therefore faced with an issue of multiple vocabulary/jargons associated with such diverse range of subject matters
Also my brain is always spinning with analysis, measuring issues, identifying risks, oppurtunities, gaps etc

So when I stand to talk, i find myself grappling with the challenge of sorting and sifting through huge repositories for the right words to best articulate my point
I find it easier to write (maybe because I can fire away and come back to think through and edit)
I hate talking slow, and dont want to end up with the slow slurred commuincation associated with some Nigerian big men


As anyone gone through this challenge before? How did you overcome it?
I really need help, I do not want this present communication challenge to propel me towards being an introvert sad

Thanks

grin This was so loooooong ago
I'm now much better in choosing words that fit the audience.
Experienced framed me.
Some folks complain that they need a dictionary to understand me sha ,....... but ehmmmm cheesy

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