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The Soul by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Lots of people believe that everybody has a soul inside them. And that when you die, your soul lives on, and goes somewhere else, perhaps to heaven. But that’s not what the Bible teaches. |
Re: The Soul by shdemidemi(m): 4:53pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Did Adam and Eve die after they transgressed? What do you know about your inner man? Are you going to be in heaven with this body that was made of dust? |
Re: The Soul by FOLYKAZE(m): 5:53pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
This is getting interesting. Pls can you explain Matthew 10:28 (KJV) 28 And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Can you explain what soul is and what body is because they are separate entity according to this bible verse |
Re: The Soul by shdemidemi(m): 5:55pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Thanks for the verse, hopefully Frosbel would attempt my questions too.^^^^ |
Re: The Soul by noetic16(m): 6:23pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
@ Frosbel You are intentionally preaching a FALSE gospel. Why have you half-quoted John 3:13? Because it shows your fallacy and FALSE doctrine about the pre-existence of Jesus, which you deny, but FRAUDULENTLY claim to be saved by Jesus. Here is the scripture in full: And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Thou art an Anti-Christ and a FALSE teacher. 1 Like |
Re: The Soul by Image123(m): 6:34pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
noetic16: @ Frosbeloops |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
noetic16: @ Frosbel Read this :
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Re: The Soul by PastorKun(m): 7:13pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
@Frosbel Granted I agree with you that the trinity doctrine is a false pagan inspired doctrine that has no sound biblical basis, what I can't understand is why you deny the divinity of christ and his pre existence despite all the biblical evidence to the contrary. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 7:16pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Pastor Kun: @Frosbel I will like to see those verses and discuss them, maybe we can do this via email or another article. For now what do you think about the human soul ? Thank You. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Pastor Kun: @Frosbel I will like to see those verses and discuss them, maybe we can do this via email , or another article. For now what do you think about the human soul ? Thank You. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 8:05pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
"At the Council of Lateran, in 1513, Pope Leo X first pronounced the doctrine of the immortality of the soul to be a Christian doctrine." It was this dogma, along with other errors, which enraged Martin Luther and caused him to post his 95 theses four years later. First Corinthians 15:52, 53, records, "In a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." Other church leaders have stated their beliefs on the state of man in death: "In AD 150, Justin Martyr wrote, 'If you meet some that are called Christians, who say there is no resurrection of the dead, but immediately when they die their souls are received up into heaven, take care that you do not look on these as Christians.' " Justin was a recognized leader in the first century after Christ, a man still known to have been firm in the true Christian faith. S. D. McConnell, in his book, "The Evolution of Immortality," states: "Of the early Christians, those who were Greeks brought to the new religion the Platonic idea that the soul was indestructible, and the Greek influence gained the domination in the early church. The Platonic doctrine (doctrine of Plato) of natural immortality came to be accepted. The notion was withstood from the very beginning as being subversive of the very existence of Christianity. "Theopholis, Irenius, Hacses, Clement of Alexandria, and, most weighty of all, Athanasius, all fought strenuously against it as pagan error which brought to nought the work of Christ." These men were all pastors in the early church, recognized leaders, who resisted as pagan philosophy, and unscriptural, the idea that man continues a conscious existence between death and the resurrection yet to come. "At the Council of Lateran, in 1513, Pope Leo X first pronounced the doctrine of the immortality of the soul to be a Christian doctrine." It was this dogma, along with other errors, which enraged Martin Luther and caused him to post his 95 theses four years later. |
Re: The Soul by Image123(m): 8:21pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
^ There are souls crying aloud under God's altar in heaven. Are you not a certain hypocrite who loves to post some self-righteous claim of following Christ and not men? Meanwhile you're the one who quotes articles and dead men most on thereligion section of this forum. God is watching, so am i. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 8:45pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Watching from sidelines |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 8:56pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Image123: ^ Hmm, souls that are dead cannot be living in heaven, it is symbolic language, otherwise we have to agree that abels blood is actually crying from the ground. "But the LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground!" - Genesis 4:10 |
Re: The Soul by ATMC(f): 9:35pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
When a spirit comes to this plane called earth and is clothed with body, that spirit becomes and is referred to as A SOUL. A soul is not separate from a spirit. It is simply a spirit with a body. When the same spirit is in other planes, it has other names. When the bible said d soul dt sinned shall die, it refers to a spirit dt has reached this our 3-dimensional plane. |
Re: The Soul by Tgirl4real(f): 11:48pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Oh dear! I was really loving this article - Man is a living soul (in summary), but that last paragraph killed the goodness of this message. When a man dies, he (soul) sleeps - d first death. When believers resurrect, we do so with a glorious body and we (our soul) live on... The unbeliever wakes up to judgement and God destroys the soul of the sinner in the lake of fire - the second death alongeside the devil and his cohorts. Don't tell me we are just gonna be empty glorified bodies Umph! |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
Tgirl4real: Oh dear! A Soul = Body and spirit ( breath of God ) - Genesis 2:7 When a soul dies, the body returns to the ground and the spirit returns to God. "When You hide Your face, they are terrified; when You take away their breath, they die and return to the dust." - Psalm 104:29 " Remember that you molded me like clay. Will you now turn me to dust again" - Job 10:9 It is this body that is raised up on the last day either incorruptible for eternity or corruptible for destruction. "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." - 1 Corinthians 15:52 Thanks. |
Re: The Soul by Tgirl4real(f): 11:54pm On Jul 17, 2013 |
I agree that the soul is not immortal, ONLY God is. But for believers, we have a hope of eternal life. Whether that eternal life means living forever, that, I need to study again. Also remember that, death came as a result of sin. |
Re: The Soul by Tgirl4real(f): 12:00am On Jul 18, 2013 |
So, what happens to the spirit that returns to God? Even your article implies that you sleep when you die. frosbel: |
Re: The Soul by shdemidemi(m): 12:01am On Jul 18, 2013 |
frosbel: Frosbel, what is this? Body raised! |
Re: The Soul by Tgirl4real(f): 12:03am On Jul 18, 2013 |
Ok. I think I get what u are saying there, it's the breath of God that keeps man alive. I will continue with a follow-up 2mrw. Good night. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 12:04am On Jul 18, 2013 |
^^^^ Was Jesus raised bodily from the grave ? |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 12:04am On Jul 18, 2013 |
shdemidemi: Was Jesus raised bodily from the grave ? |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 12:05am On Jul 18, 2013 |
Tgirl4real: Ok. I think I get what u are saying there, it's the breath of God that keeps man alive. sure , thanks. |
Re: The Soul by shdemidemi(m): 12:12am On Jul 18, 2013 |
frosbel: Did Jesus have the same corrupt body like you and I? |
Re: The Soul by Image123(m): 12:59am On Jul 18, 2013 |
frosbel:That you do not believe something does not automatically mean that it is symbolic language or a parable. What is it symbolic of? i agree that Abel's blood is cried from the ground. God said it and that settles it for me. Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. Heb 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. Here are three scripture witnesses telling us that Abel is still speaking after death. That it sounds incredulous to you like any other miraculous thing sounds does not mean it is not real. Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. |
Re: The Soul by nlMediator: 1:53am On Jul 18, 2013 |
^^ The guy’s skill at explaining away things is amazing. If only he deployed it to exaplin away his erroneous beliefs. |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 8:34am On Jul 18, 2013 |
shdemidemi: clue : "It is the same way with the resurrection of the dead. Our earthly bodies are planted in the ground when we die, but they will be raised to live forever. - 1 Corinthians 15:42 |
Re: The Soul by Nobody: 8:42am On Jul 18, 2013 |
[quote author=Image123] Blood crying ? No wonder you religious people cannot think and reason out the truth, instead you lead multitudes into the same error wherein you are trapped. Here are three scripture witnesses telling us that Abel is still speaking after death. That it sounds incredulous to you like any other miraculous thing sounds does not mean it is not real. 1. The whole book of revelation just like Daniel is prophetic and symbolic , and provides a look into future events as planned by Almighty GOD. 2. By deduction from point 1, there were no souls under the altar at the time of John seeing and recording these events. 3. These souls are under the altar for how long ? A millennia ? Does it sound logical to you that millions of souls will be under an altar, almost imprisoned till the time of reckoning. You call this being in heaven, lol. Read revelation prayerfully and carefully, have a pen and pad handy, no rush, dedicate at least a month, stop this wishy washy , religious, shallow and almost brainwashed approach to bible study. |
Re: The Soul by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 8:57am On Jul 18, 2013 |
Image123: ^ G.. let us keep it clean and academic.. it shows you are open-minded (as opposed to narrow-minded) |
Re: The Soul by Tgirl4real(f): 9:25am On Jul 18, 2013 |
FROSBEL!!! Hmmm.... |
Re: The Soul by shdemidemi(m): 9:25am On Jul 18, 2013 |
@ OP You have refused to answer any of my questions, is there a reason for that? |
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