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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by mentorken05(m): 11:05pm On Jul 30, 2013 |
So Pope Francis makes a Certain statement saying he wont judge Gays..... And everybody goes, calling gay, some called anti-christ. Ok, what should the Pope have said? Ook, maybe he should have said, 'yea, Gay is an abomination, infact every gay should be brought out and shot through the head or hanged!' If he had made this statement, same people shouting anti-christ will be the first to call for his head for Judging. #People spend too much time condemning others and spend no time at all in making themselves better. 2 Likes |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by FemiNagasaki(m): 12:18am On Jul 31, 2013 |
^^ Even monotheism is doomed to subtract one more god and become atheism. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by eXDave: 12:21am On Jul 31, 2013 |
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics.what do u kno about catholic? |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Adek15(m): 12:45am On Jul 31, 2013 |
kokoye: He means he is not God.jesus will embrace the boko boys, jesus would embrace yerima, jesus would accept anything so far it's not castigating others and guess what there would be countless crimes on earth cos there wont b law enforcemement agency |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by pericaliya06(f): 12:48am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Yungwizzzy: call a spade a spade Pope. all homosexuals are going to hell!!You can never tell Are u God?You knw,the END they say justifies d means |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Dnaz(m): 12:50am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always violations of divine and natural law. Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful. People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over which they have little direct control, but these do not become sinful until a person acts upon them, either by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out. People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they act upon those desires in some manner. Divine Law The rejection of homosexual behavior that is found in the Old Testament is well known. In Genesis 19, two angels in disguise visit the city of Sodom and are offered hospitality and shelter by Lot. During the night, the men of Sodom demand that Lot hand over his guests for homosexual intercourse. Lot refuses, and the angels blind the men of Sodom. Lot and his household escape, and the town is destroyed by fire "because the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord" (Gen. 19:13). Throughout history, Jewish and Christian scholars have recognized that one of the chief sins involved in God’s destruction of Sodom was its people’s homosexual behavior. But today, certain homosexual activists promote the idea that the sin of Sodom was merely a lack of hospitality. Although inhospitality is a sin, it is clearly the homosexual behavior of the Sodomites that is singled out for special criticism in the account of their city’s destruction. We must look to Scripture’s own interpretation of the sin of Sodom. Jude 7 records that Sodom and Gomorrah "acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust." Ezekiel says that Sodom committed "abominable things" (Ezek. 16:50), which could refer to homosexual and heterosexual acts of sin. Lot even offered his two virgin daughters in place of his guests, but the men of Sodom rejected the offer, preferring homosexual sex over heterosexual sex (Gen. 19:8–9). Ezekiel does allude to a lack of hospitality in saying that Sodom "did not aid the poor and needy" (Ezek. 16:49). So homosexual acts and a lack of hospitality both contributed to the destruction of Sodom, with the former being the far greater sin, the "abominable thing" that set off God’s wrath. But the Sodom incident is not the only time the Old Testament deals with homosexuality. An explicit condemnation is found in the book of Leviticus: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. . . . If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 18:22, 20:13). Reinterpreting Scripture To discount this, some homosexual activists have argued that moral imperatives from the Old Testament can be dismissed since there were certain ceremonial requirements at the time—such as not eating pork, or circumcising male babies—that are no longer binding. While the Old Testament’s ceremonial requirements are no longer binding, its moral requirements are. God may issue different ceremonies for use in different times and cultures, but his moral requirements are eternal and are binding on all cultures. Confirming this fact is the New Testament’s forceful rejection of homosexual behavior as well. In Romans 1, Paul attributes the homosexual desires of some to a refusal to acknowledge and worship God. He says, "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them but approve those who practice them" (Rom. 1:26–28, 32). Elsewhere Paul again warns that homosexual behavior is one of the sins that will deprive one of heaven: "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9–10, NIV). All of Scripture teaches the unacceptability of homosexual behavior. But the rejection of this behavior is not an arbitrary prohibition. It, like other moral imperatives, is rooted in natural law—the design that God has built into human nature. Natural Law People have a basic, ethical intuition that certain behaviors are wrong because they are unnatural. We perceive intuitively that the natural sex partner of a human is another human, not an animal. The same reasoning applies to the case of homosexual behavior. The natural sex partner for a man is a woman, and the natural sex partner for a woman is a man. Thus, people have the corresponding intuition concerning homosexuality that they do about bestiality—that it is wrong because it is unnatural. Natural law reasoning is the basis for almost all standard moral intuitions. For example, it is the dignity and value that each human being naturally possesses that makes the needless destruction of human life or infliction of physical and emotional pain immoral. This gives rise to a host of specific moral principles, such as the unacceptability of murder, kidnapping, mutilation, physical and emotional abuse, and so forth. "I Was Born This Way" Many homosexuals argue that they have not chosen their condition, but that they were born that way, making homosexual behavior natural for them. But because something was not chosen does not mean it was inborn. Some desires are acquired or strengthened by habituation and conditioning instead of by conscious choice. For example, no one chooses to be an alcoholic, but one can become habituated to alcohol. Just as one can acquire alcoholic desires (by repeatedly becoming intoxicated) without consciously choosing them, so one may acquire homosexual desires (by engaging in homosexual fantasies or behavior) without consciously choosing them. Since sexual desire is subject to a high degree of cognitive conditioning in humans (there is no biological reason why we find certain scents, forms of dress, or forms of underwear sexually stimulating), it would be most unusual if homosexual desires were not subject to a similar degree of cognitive conditioning. Even if there is a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality (and studies on this point are inconclusive), the behavior remains unnatural because homosexuality is still not part of the natural design of humanity. It does not make homosexual behavior acceptable; other behaviors are not rendered acceptable simply because there may be a genetic predisposition toward them. For example, scientific studies suggest some people are born with a hereditary disposition to alcoholism, but no one would argue someone ought to fulfill these inborn urges by becoming an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not an acceptable "lifestyle" any more than homosexuality is. The Ten Percent Argument Homosexual activists often justify homosexuality by claiming that ten percent of the population is homosexual, meaning that it is a common and thus acceptable behavior. But not all common behaviors are acceptable, and even if ten percent of the population were born homosexual, this would prove nothing. One hundred percent of the population is born with original sin and the desires flowing from it. If those desires manifest themselves in a homosexual fashion in ten percent of the population, all that does is give us information about the demographics of original sin. But the fact is that the ten percent figure is false. It stems from the 1948 report by Alfred Kinsey, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male . The study was profoundly flawed, as later psychologists studying sexual behavior have agreed. Kinsey’s subjects were drawn heavily from convicted criminals; 1,400 of his 5,300 final subjects (twenty-six percent) were convicted sex offenders—a group that by definition is not representative of normal sexual practices. Furthermore, the ten percent figure includes people who are not exclusively homosexual but who only engaged in some homosexual behavior for a period of time and then stopped—people who had gone through a fully or partially homosexual "phase" but who were not long-term homosexuals. (For a critique of Kinsey’s research methods, see Kinsey, Sex, and Fraud, by Dr. Judith Reisman and Edward Eichel [Lafayette, Louisiana: Lochinvar & Huntington House, 1990].) Recent and more scientifically accurate studies have shown that only around one to two percent of the population is homosexual. "You’re Just a Homophobe" Those opposed to homosexual behavior are often charged with "homophobia"—that they hold the position they do because they are "afraid" of homosexuals. Sometimes the charge is even made that these same people are perhaps homosexuals themselves and are overcompensating to hide this fact, even from themselves, by condemning other homosexuals. Both of these arguments attempt to stop rational discussion of an issue by shifting the focus to one of the participants. In doing so, they dismiss another person’s arguments based on some real or supposed attribute of the person. In this case, the supposed attribute is a fear of homosexuals. Like similar attempts to avoid rational discussion of an issue, the homophobia argument completely misses the point. Even if a person were afraid of homosexuals, that would not diminish his arguments against their behavior. The fact that a person is afraid of handguns would not nullify arguments against handguns, nor would the fact that a person might be afraid of handgun control diminish arguments against handgun control. Furthermore, the homophobia charge rings false. The vast majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in no way "afraid" of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the same as a fear. One can disagree with something without fearing it, and the attempt to shut down rational discussion by crying "homophobe!" falls flat. It is an attempt to divert attention from the arguments against one’s position by focusing attention on the one who made the arguments, while trying to claim the moral high ground against him. The Call to Chastity The modern arguments in favor of homosexuality have thus been insufficient to overcome the evidence that homosexual behavior is against divine and natural law, as the Bible and the Church, as well as the wider circle of Jewish and Christian (not to mention Muslim) writers, have always held. The Catholic Church thus teaches: "Basing itself on sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved" ( Catechism of the Catholic Church 2357). However, the Church also acknowledges that "[homosexuality’s] psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. . . . The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s cross the difficulties that they may encounter from their condition. "Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection" (CCC 2357– 2359). Paul comfortingly reminds us, "No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it" (1 Cor. 10:13). Homosexuals who want to live chastely can contact Courage, a national, Church-approved support group for help in deliverance from the homosexual lifestyle. Courage, Church of St. John the Baptist 210 W. 31st St., New York, NY 10001 |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Gozzzy(m): 1:27am On Jul 31, 2013 |
As far as am concerned, capital sentence for all gays, is what we need!!!!! Death sentence!!!!, in short, outright fatwa!!!!!! |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 2:01am On Jul 31, 2013 |
d hard truth, Catholics dont hav a place in d kingdom of God. If u lik beliv, if u lik dont but dats d truth |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Kezsman(m): 2:03am On Jul 31, 2013 |
All this fools and illiterates who call themselves Christians pls meet someone to explain to you what Pope said before posting all this nonsense jst because you want to criticize Catholic Church. The Bible you A̶̲̥̅®ε̲̣̣̣̥ quoting who even write them? On whose language was it written? Who started Christianity? Pls go and read more books and stop displaying your ignorance here!!! 1 Like |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Biggysmalls919(m): 2:48am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Nigerians like to make noise. now that the pope made this statement, u can stop going to catholic church or withdraw your catholic affiliations from the Vatican. afterall, the Anglican threatened to withdraw fro church of England in Nigeria when they had some gay issues. go and practice your African culture and leave the borrowed religion. nobody is forcing anyone to be like any other person. the Chinese, hindus, bhuddist etc are living their lives and accepted their traditional culture and religion. so if the whites did not come to Africa, wont u maintain your African religions. use your heads 1 Like |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by GooseBaba: 3:52am On Jul 31, 2013 |
free2ryhme: I thought you bible worshippers were born a sinner hence the need for salvation. Abi volume 3 of the book don come out?!! |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 5:56am On Jul 31, 2013 |
akah.p:u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 5:56am On Jul 31, 2013 |
akah.p:u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Chnges(m): 6:31am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Rebuke the devil and he will flee. Spare the rod and spoil the child. Everybody will face his/her own judgment big or small. No one is greatest in the eyes of the Lord; only him who recieves the kingdom of Heaven like a child inherits it |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by FBIolalusi(m): 6:31am On Jul 31, 2013 |
This is serious Shocked at your thrust. Fyi. BBible is not the soul root of salvation and not sufficient to save u. Better you understand what is fundamental to ur salvation before you rant out ignorantly. Fadelex: our religious leaders are becoming more of politicians.... gone are d days the leader will open d bible and say to d followers that whatever you do contrary to this book is a sin... just d same as a pastor saying who am I to judge bode George... God bless the republicans who vehemently oppose dis homosexual act.. marriage is a union between a man and a woman... this is a big slap from d pope, instead of discouraging these people, he couldn't tell them the truth and he hopes to use this to gain political influence. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by sayso: 6:50am On Jul 31, 2013 |
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics.At least in English language. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by ARareGem(f): 7:12am On Jul 31, 2013 |
GooseBaba: There is only 1 volume of the Bible. We do not worship the Bible, we worship God. Fact- we are all born sinners. This means it's in our nature to sin, yet we choose what tempations we fall to. Understand we all hv weaknesses and strengths. So where you fail, I might conquer with ease. Please, give your life to Christ. He's real, He loves you and He's waiting for you. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 7:35am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Most priests are gay anyway so I didn't expect anytin derogatory from him.But its a shame dat he cud not stand for d truth. Probably he is gay himself. Who knows? |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by zubino(m): 7:38am On Jul 31, 2013 |
As I read through the various comments, I laughfed and at the same time was cautious of people,s opinion. If u read the Bible very well, u will understand that God is wiser than all of us. What I,m trying to say is that everyperson who has posted on topic has already judged him/her self, because bible says we shall give account of every word we speak. Personally I,m not interested in what pope has said, but I know that gay is not of God. I don't need and angel to tell me before I say so. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nehemiah459(m): 7:43am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Guys check this for those that say judging isn't right. https://www.nairaland.com/1326575/it-right-judge |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by omicron(m): 8:14am On Jul 31, 2013 |
akah.p:all i can say to you "May God have mercy on you in Jesus name" . |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ezegozie(m): 8:16am On Jul 31, 2013 |
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics. Don't say what you dont know! |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 8:19am On Jul 31, 2013 |
mediachirps: 666 = The mark of the Beastgrow up ode |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ezegozie(m): 8:31am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Agbalanze: My question is....... Can someone accept the lord and have good will and at the same time, be a gay? better still, is there anything like (born again)gay christian?? i dont think you understand the concept of homosexualism. Listen, most homosexuals are gay right from birth. So let me assume, that John is born a gay, and he grew up and found out that he has sexual attraction towards his fellow man, (as a result of aptidudinal or abnormal hormonal effect right from her mothers womb) but he decide not to practise homosexualism because he knows it is a sin. Will you say, he should be condemned? Is he the cause of his aptitudinal predicament? Please read more about homosexualism 1 Like |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abenabisa: 8:41am On Jul 31, 2013 |
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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 8:53am On Jul 31, 2013 |
His message Is Vivid enough ''Am In support of GAY marriages'' |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 9:03am On Jul 31, 2013 |
abouzaid: u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one. 'Mr my frnd' i didnt premise wat i said based on d topic. Nd i dont xpet u 2agree wit ease. Dis z a revelation made known by Jesus Christ Himself via smeone. According 2d revelation, Christ Embassy rite 4rm its foundation wasnt of God. Jehova Witnesses they r on dia own. They r not preaching wat d bible says. They preach wat they tink suit humans, not Gods Word. D doctrine of Catholics is contrary 2d Word of God. U shud also note dat me being a protestant dont in any way mek me 2justify al protestan churches, many wil b sent 2hell because of wrong leaders nd wrong teachings.....B Wise! |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 9:29am On Jul 31, 2013 |
akah.p:(dazed, staggers,falls and faint flat on my face) pls what is the name of the person that recieved this revelation and his church which is the only true church that will inherit heaven according to u. I will really like to check out their website. Take this as just a friendly request from "mr my friend". |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by oiseworld: 9:46am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Ubenedictus: so you think gay people who "accept the lord and his teaching and are of goodwill" are unrepentant? How can you accept the Lord's teaching half way and yet claim to accept him. Failure in one is failure in all. Male and female did God make man, which one is gay again. Maybe am not getting you well, but only straight people can accept God (Born Again). You can't Live in sin and expect grace to abound. |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 9:50am On Jul 31, 2013 |
abouzaid: (dazed, staggers,falls and faint flat on my face) pls what is the name of the person that recieved this revelation and his church which is the only true church that will inherit heaven according to u. I will really like to check out their website. Take this as just a friendly request from "mr my friend".Bros u nid 2grow up in Gods word. Being in a living church doesnt in any way gauranty u heaven |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Jumaisha(f): 9:51am On Jul 31, 2013 |
Since he's not God so he has no right to judge anybody |
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by oiseworld: 9:53am On Jul 31, 2013 |
livebullet: Waste of time! didn't know I had been talking to a poorly brought up kid. Grow up. |
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