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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by mentorken05(m): 11:05pm On Jul 30, 2013
So Pope Francis makes a Certain statement saying he wont judge Gays..... And everybody goes, calling gay, some called anti-christ.
Ok, what should the Pope have said?
Ook, maybe he should have said, 'yea, Gay is an abomination, infact every gay should be brought out and shot through the head or hanged!'
If he had made this statement, same people shouting anti-christ will be the first to call for his head for Judging.

‪#‎People‬ spend too much time condemning others and spend no time at all in making themselves better.

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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by FemiNagasaki(m): 12:18am On Jul 31, 2013
^^ Even monotheism is doomed to subtract one more god and become atheism.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by eXDave: 12:21am On Jul 31, 2013
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics.
what do u kno about catholic?
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Adek15(m): 12:45am On Jul 31, 2013
kokoye: He means he is not God.

Who are we to judge when we are not God?

Instead of judging, pray for them.

my opinion sha.

What would Jesus do?
jesus will embrace the boko boys, jesus would embrace yerima, jesus would accept anything so far it's not castigating others and guess what there would be countless crimes on earth cos there wont b law enforcemement agency
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by pericaliya06(f): 12:48am On Jul 31, 2013
Yungwizzzy: call a spade a spade Pope. all homosexuals are going to hell!!
You can never tell Are u God?You knw,the END they say justifies d means
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Dnaz(m): 12:50am On Jul 31, 2013
Every human being is called to receive a gift of divine
sonship, to become a child of God by grace. However, to
receive this gift, we must reject sin, including homosexual
behavior—that is, acts intended to arouse or stimulate a
sexual response regarding a person of the same sex. The
Catholic Church teaches that such acts are always
violations of divine and natural law.
Homosexual desires, however, are not in themselves sinful.
People are subject to a wide variety of sinful desires over
which they have little direct control, but these do not
become sinful until a person acts upon them, either
by acting out the desire or by encouraging the desire and
deliberately engaging in fantasies about acting it out.
People tempted by homosexual desires, like people tempted
by improper heterosexual desires, are not sinning until they
act upon those desires in some manner.
Divine Law
The rejection of homosexual behavior that is found in the
Old Testament is well known. In Genesis 19, two angels in
disguise visit the city of Sodom and are offered hospitality
and shelter by Lot. During the night, the men of Sodom
demand that Lot hand over his guests for homosexual
intercourse. Lot refuses, and the angels blind the men of
Sodom. Lot and his household escape, and the town is
destroyed by fire "because the outcry against its people has
become great before the Lord" (Gen. 19:13).
Throughout history, Jewish and Christian scholars have
recognized that one of the chief sins involved in God’s
destruction of Sodom was its people’s homosexual
behavior. But today, certain homosexual activists promote
the idea that the sin of Sodom was merely a lack of
hospitality. Although inhospitality is a sin, it is clearly the
homosexual behavior of the Sodomites that is singled out
for special criticism in the account of their city’s
destruction. We must look to Scripture’s own interpretation
of the sin of Sodom.
Jude 7 records that Sodom and Gomorrah "acted immorally
and indulged in unnatural lust." Ezekiel says that Sodom
committed "abominable things" (Ezek. 16:50), which could
refer to homosexual and heterosexual acts of sin. Lot even
offered his two virgin daughters in place of his guests, but
the men of Sodom rejected the offer, preferring homosexual
sex over heterosexual sex (Gen. 19:8–9). Ezekiel does
allude to a lack of hospitality in saying that Sodom "did not
aid the poor and needy" (Ezek. 16:49). So homosexual acts
and a lack of hospitality both contributed to the destruction
of Sodom, with the former being the far greater sin, the
"abominable thing" that set off God’s wrath.
But the Sodom incident is not the only time the Old
Testament deals with homosexuality. An explicit
condemnation is found in the book of Leviticus: "You shall
not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination. . . . If a man lies with a male as with a
woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they
shall be put to death, their blood is upon them" (Lev. 18:22,
20:13).
Reinterpreting Scripture
To discount this, some homosexual activists have argued
that moral imperatives from the Old Testament can be
dismissed since there were certain ceremonial requirements
at the time—such as not eating pork, or circumcising male
babies—that are no longer binding.
While the Old Testament’s ceremonial requirements are no
longer binding, its moral requirements are. God may issue
different ceremonies for use in different times and cultures,
but his moral requirements are eternal and are binding on
all cultures.
Confirming this fact is the New Testament’s forceful
rejection of homosexual behavior as well. In Romans 1,
Paul attributes the homosexual desires of some to a refusal
to acknowledge and worship God. He says, "For this reason
God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women
exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men
likewise gave up natural relations with women and were
consumed with passion for one another, men committing
shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons
the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit
to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a base mind and
to improper conduct. . . . Though they know God’s decree
that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only
do them but approve those who practice them" (Rom.
1:26–28, 32).
Elsewhere Paul again warns that homosexual behavior is
one of the sins that will deprive one of heaven: "Do you not
know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor
idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor
homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor
drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the
kingdom of God" (1 Cor. 6:9–10, NIV).
All of Scripture teaches the unacceptability of homosexual
behavior. But the rejection of this behavior is not an
arbitrary prohibition. It, like other moral imperatives, is
rooted in natural law—the design that God has built into
human nature.
Natural Law
People have a basic, ethical intuition that certain behaviors
are wrong because they are unnatural. We perceive
intuitively that the natural sex partner of a human is another
human, not an animal.
The same reasoning applies to the case of homosexual
behavior. The natural sex partner for a man is a woman,
and the natural sex partner for a woman is a man. Thus,
people have the corresponding intuition concerning
homosexuality that they do about bestiality—that it is wrong
because it is unnatural.
Natural law reasoning is the basis for almost all standard
moral intuitions. For example, it is the dignity and value
that each human being naturally possesses that makes the
needless destruction of human life or infliction of physical
and emotional pain immoral. This gives rise to a host of
specific moral principles, such as the unacceptability of
murder, kidnapping, mutilation, physical and emotional
abuse, and so forth.
"I Was Born This Way"
Many homosexuals argue that they have not chosen their
condition, but that they were born that way, making
homosexual behavior natural for them.
But because something was not chosen does not mean it
was inborn. Some desires are acquired or strengthened by
habituation and conditioning instead of by conscious
choice. For example, no one chooses to be an alcoholic, but
one can become habituated to alcohol. Just as one can
acquire alcoholic desires (by repeatedly becoming
intoxicated) without consciously choosing them, so one
may acquire homosexual desires (by engaging in
homosexual fantasies or behavior) without consciously
choosing them.
Since sexual desire is subject to a high degree of cognitive
conditioning in humans (there is no biological reason why
we find certain scents, forms of dress, or forms of
underwear sexually stimulating), it would be most unusual
if homosexual desires were not subject to a similar degree
of cognitive conditioning.
Even if there is a genetic predisposition toward
homosexuality (and studies on this point are inconclusive),
the behavior remains unnatural because homosexuality is
still not part of the natural design of humanity. It does not
make homosexual behavior acceptable; other behaviors are
not rendered acceptable simply because there may be a
genetic predisposition toward them.
For example, scientific studies suggest some people are
born with a hereditary disposition to alcoholism, but no one
would argue someone ought to fulfill these inborn urges by
becoming an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not an acceptable
"lifestyle" any more than homosexuality is.
The Ten Percent Argument
Homosexual activists often justify homosexuality by
claiming that ten percent of the population is homosexual,
meaning that it is a common and thus acceptable behavior.
But not all common behaviors are acceptable, and even if
ten percent of the population were born homosexual, this
would prove nothing. One hundred percent of the population
is born with original sin and the desires flowing from it. If
those desires manifest themselves in a homosexual fashion
in ten percent of the population, all that does is give us
information about the demographics of original sin.
But the fact is that the ten percent figure is false. It stems
from the 1948 report by Alfred Kinsey, Sexual Behavior in
the Human Male . The study was profoundly flawed, as later
psychologists studying sexual behavior have agreed.
Kinsey’s subjects were drawn heavily from convicted
criminals; 1,400 of his 5,300 final subjects (twenty-six
percent) were convicted sex offenders—a group that by
definition is not representative of normal sexual practices.
Furthermore, the ten percent figure includes people who are
not exclusively homosexual but who only engaged
in some homosexual behavior for a period of time and then
stopped—people who had gone through a fully or partially
homosexual "phase" but who were not long-term
homosexuals. (For a critique of Kinsey’s research methods,
see Kinsey, Sex, and Fraud, by Dr. Judith Reisman and
Edward Eichel [Lafayette, Louisiana: Lochinvar &
Huntington House, 1990].)
Recent and more scientifically accurate studies have shown
that only around one to two percent of the population is
homosexual.
"You’re Just a Homophobe"
Those opposed to homosexual behavior are often charged
with "homophobia"—that they hold the position they do
because they are "afraid" of homosexuals. Sometimes the
charge is even made that these same people are perhaps
homosexuals themselves and are overcompensating to hide
this fact, even from themselves, by condemning other
homosexuals.
Both of these arguments attempt to stop rational discussion
of an issue by shifting the focus to one of the participants.
In doing so, they dismiss another person’s arguments based
on some real or supposed attribute of the person. In this
case, the supposed attribute is a fear of homosexuals.
Like similar attempts to avoid rational discussion of an
issue, the homophobia argument completely misses the
point. Even if a person were afraid of homosexuals, that
would not diminish his arguments against their behavior.
The fact that a person is afraid of handguns would not
nullify arguments against handguns, nor would the fact that
a person might be afraid of handgun control diminish
arguments against handgun control.
Furthermore, the homophobia charge rings false. The vast
majority of those who oppose homosexual behavior are in
no way "afraid" of homosexuals. A disagreement is not the
same as a fear. One can disagree with something without
fearing it, and the attempt to shut down rational discussion
by crying "homophobe!" falls flat. It is an attempt to divert
attention from the arguments against one’s position by
focusing attention on the one who made the arguments,
while trying to claim the moral high ground against him.
The Call to Chastity
The modern arguments in favor of homosexuality have thus
been insufficient to overcome the evidence that homosexual
behavior is against divine and natural law, as the Bible and
the Church, as well as the wider circle of Jewish and
Christian (not to mention Muslim) writers, have always
held.
The Catholic Church thus teaches: "Basing itself on sacred
Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave
depravity, tradition has always declared that homosexual
acts are intrinsically disordered. They are contrary to the
natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life.
They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual
complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be
approved" ( Catechism of the Catholic Church 2357).
However, the Church also acknowledges that
"[homosexuality’s] psychological genesis remains largely
unexplained. . . . The number of men and women who have
deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This
inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for
most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect,
compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust
discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These
persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if
they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s
cross the difficulties that they may encounter from their
condition.
"Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues
of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by
the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and
sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and
resolutely approach Christian perfection" (CCC 2357–
2359).
Paul comfortingly reminds us, "No temptation has overtaken
you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will
not let you be tempted beyond your strength, but with the
temptation will also provide the way of escape, that you
may be able to endure it" (1 Cor. 10:13).
Homosexuals who want to live chastely can
contact Courage, a national, Church-approved support
group for help in deliverance from the homosexual lifestyle.
Courage,
Church of St. John the Baptist
210 W. 31st St., New York, NY 10001
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Gozzzy(m): 1:27am On Jul 31, 2013
As far as am concerned, capital sentence for all gays, is what we need!!!!! Death sentence!!!!, in short, outright fatwa!!!!!!
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 2:01am On Jul 31, 2013
d hard truth, Catholics dont hav a place in d kingdom of God. If u lik beliv, if u lik dont but dats d truth
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Kezsman(m): 2:03am On Jul 31, 2013
All this fools and illiterates who call themselves Christians pls meet someone to explain to you what Pope said before posting all this nonsense jst because you want to criticize Catholic Church. The Bible you A̶̲̥̅®ε̲̣̣̣̥ quoting who even write them? On whose language was it written? Who started Christianity? Pls go and read more books and stop displaying your ignorance here!!!

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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Biggysmalls919(m): 2:48am On Jul 31, 2013
Nigerians like to make noise. now that the pope made this statement, u can stop going to catholic church or withdraw your catholic affiliations from the Vatican. afterall, the Anglican threatened to withdraw fro church of England in Nigeria when they had some gay issues. go and practice your African culture and leave the borrowed religion. nobody is forcing anyone to be like any other person. the Chinese, hindus, bhuddist etc are living their lives and accepted their traditional culture and religion. so if the whites did not come to Africa, wont u maintain your African religions. use your heads

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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by GooseBaba: 3:52am On Jul 31, 2013
free2ryhme:



He clearly disapprove of Homos but what happens to priest that are culpable of this act .. About born into gay I clearly disapprove. Just as a thief was not born a thief or a sinner not born a sinner so you cannot be born into gay. Being gay is a choice you make sames the choice you make to steal, rob or sin

What help can you offer to someone who has made up his/her mind to be gay

I thought you bible worshippers were born a sinner hence the need for salvation. Abi volume 3 of the book don come out?!! cheesy
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 5:56am On Jul 31, 2013
akah.p:
d hard truth, Catholics dont hav a place in d kingdom of God. If u lik beliv, if u lik dont but dats d truth
u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 5:56am On Jul 31, 2013
akah.p:
d hard truth, Catholics dont hav a place in d kingdom of God. If u lik beliv, if u lik dont but dats d truth
u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Chnges(m): 6:31am On Jul 31, 2013
Rebuke the devil and he will flee. Spare the rod and spoil the child. Everybody will face his/her own judgment big or small. No one is greatest in the eyes of the Lord; only him who recieves the kingdom of Heaven like a child inherits it
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by FBIolalusi(m): 6:31am On Jul 31, 2013
This is serious
Shocked at your thrust. Fyi. BBible is not the soul root of salvation and not sufficient to save u. Better you understand what is fundamental to ur salvation before you rant out ignorantly.

Fadelex: our religious leaders are becoming more of politicians.... gone are d days the leader will open d bible and say to d followers that whatever you do contrary to this book is a sin... just d same as a pastor saying who am I to judge bode George... God bless the republicans who vehemently oppose dis homosexual act.. marriage is a union between a man and a woman... this is a big slap from d pope, instead of discouraging these people, he couldn't tell them the truth and he hopes to use this to gain political influence.

I'm a xtian and I will never accept anything outside of the holy book.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by sayso: 6:50am On Jul 31, 2013
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics.
At least in English language.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by ARareGem(f): 7:12am On Jul 31, 2013
GooseBaba:
I thought you bible worshippers were born a sinner hence the need for salvation. Abi volume 3 of the book don come out?!! cheesy

There is only 1 volume of the Bible. We do not worship the Bible, we worship God. Fact- we are all born sinners. This means it's in our nature to sin, yet we choose what tempations we fall to. Understand we all hv weaknesses and strengths. So where you fail, I might conquer with ease.

Please, give your life to Christ. He's real, He loves you and He's waiting for you.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 7:35am On Jul 31, 2013
Most priests are gay anyway so I didn't expect anytin derogatory from him.But its a shame dat he cud not stand for d truth. Probably he is gay himself. Who knows?
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by zubino(m): 7:38am On Jul 31, 2013
As I read through the various comments, I laughfed and at the same time was cautious of people,s opinion. If u read the Bible very well, u will understand that God is wiser than all of us. What I,m trying to say is that everyperson who has posted on topic has already judged him/her self, because bible says we shall give account of every word we speak. Personally I,m not interested in what pope has said, but I know that gay is not of God. I don't need and angel to tell me before I say so.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nehemiah459(m): 7:43am On Jul 31, 2013
Guys check this for those that say judging isn't right.

https://www.nairaland.com/1326575/it-right-judge
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by omicron(m): 8:14am On Jul 31, 2013
akah.p:
d hard truth, Catholics dont hav a place in d kingdom of God. If u lik beliv, if u lik dont but dats d truth
all i can say to you "May God have mercy on you in Jesus name" .
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ezegozie(m): 8:16am On Jul 31, 2013
mediachirps: he knows he is a gay too so, he shouldn't judge. he's scared of words, cause those words will be indirectly for him too. a clergy man who can't stand for the words of God he preaches. don't he's Bible has that portion that says " nor homosexual will inherit the kingdom of God " that's why they hardly preach about heaven and hell fire in Catholics.

Don't say what you dont know!
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 8:19am On Jul 31, 2013
mediachirps: 666 = The mark of the Beast
President Obama Vs
;Revelation13:1 5 -18
The US
Senate has passed the Obama
Health Care' bill into law. The
implementation would commence
Soon. This bill would
require all
Americans to be implanted with a
Radio Frequency Identification
(RFID) chip
in order to access medical
care.
The device will be implanted
on the
forehead or on the arm. This is to
fulfill the prophesy in the Book of
Revelation 13:15-18 concerning
the MARK OF THE BEAST!
Are you still doubting the
ENDTIME? GET READY! The rapture
is near! .Revelations 13 is being
played out right before us. Many
are still unaware.
(1) Why is the chip
being implanted exactly where
the Bible says it would be. Why on
the
hand and forehead. Why not
anywhere else?
(2) Why is it being connected
to your bank account? Remember
the Bible says you won't be able
to buy
or sell without the mark. And
guess what! The chip is
connected to your
financial details. What breaks my
heart the most is that many
people in the
church will not make it if Jesus
comes now? Many are unaware
that the
end is near.
Don't tell me that its
advancement in technology or
development. If any area of your
life is not in sync with God's word
Repent
and be converted. If you miss
heaven you can never miss
hell...think about
it. Hell is not a pretty place, the
worst part is that it is for
eternity...Plea se
rather than post and forward
senseless messages. Send to
everyone you
know. Do the work of an
evangelist. PLEASE SHARE THIS
MESSAGE WITH
ALL YOUR CONTACTS. Have you
ever wondered what would have
happened if we treat the Holy
Bible the way we treat our mobile
phone?
And we really can't live without it.
Only 7% will re-send this
message.
Don't be of the 93% who will not
share the message.
Satan said "I wonder
how humans claim to Love God
and disobey Him, and claim they
hate me
yet they obey me"
Do not send later. Send now. May
Almighty God grant
success to every one who reads
and sends this
grow up ode
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Ezegozie(m): 8:31am On Jul 31, 2013
Agbalanze: My question is....... Can someone accept the lord and have good will and at the same time, be a gay? better still, is there anything like (born again)gay christian??

i dont think you understand the concept of homosexualism.

Listen, most homosexuals are gay right from birth. So let me assume, that John is born a gay, and he grew up and found out that he has sexual attraction towards his fellow man, (as a result of aptidudinal or abnormal hormonal effect right from her mothers womb) but he decide not to practise homosexualism because he knows it is a sin.
Will you say, he should be condemned?
Is he the cause of his aptitudinal predicament?

Please read more about homosexualism

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Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Nobody: 8:53am On Jul 31, 2013
His message Is Vivid enough ''Am In support of GAY marriages'' undecided
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 9:03am On Jul 31, 2013
abouzaid: u have left the topic to start condemning another church without even giving a reason. Pls tell me what does the pope mean by what he said? ur not a christian going by this ur statement. And pls which church have a place in the kingdom of God. Is it jehova witnesses,deeper life, assemblies of God,christ embassy etc among the thousands of protestant churches? I ask cos they all claim to be bible based churches yet they don't preach the same doctrine. They have so much hatred and resentment for each other. So pls tell me which among them will posses the kingdom of God. For your information, it's you the protestant churches that have accepted and promoted gay rights in the western part of the world. The catholic church have been in the front in the fight against gay and abortion while protestants ordain openly practising gays as ministers and bishops. When the west eventually bring their madness to nigeria, we will know which churches will accept and promote it here. It's only catholics and muslims that are fighting the french government right now to stop the legalization of same sex marriage and their right to adopt. Where are the protestants in france? I guess they too busy condemning other denominations with one hand while they support and promote gay rights with the other one.

'Mr my frnd' i didnt premise wat i said based on d topic. Nd i dont xpet u 2agree wit ease. Dis z a revelation made known by Jesus Christ Himself via smeone. According 2d revelation, Christ Embassy rite 4rm its foundation wasnt of God. Jehova Witnesses they r on dia own. They r not preaching wat d bible says. They preach wat they tink suit humans, not Gods Word. D doctrine of Catholics is contrary 2d Word of God. U shud also note dat me being a protestant dont in any way mek me 2justify al protestan churches, many wil b sent 2hell because of wrong leaders nd wrong teachings.....B Wise!
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by abouzaid: 9:29am On Jul 31, 2013
akah.p:

'Mr my frnd' i didnt premise wat i said based on d topic. Nd i dont xpet u 2agree wit ease. Dis z a revelation made known by Jesus Christ Himself via smeone. According 2d revelation, Christ Embassy rite 4rm its foundation wasnt of God. Jehova Witnesses they r on dia own. They r not preaching wat d bible says. They preach wat they tink suit humans, not Gods Word. D doctrine of Catholics is contrary 2d Word of God. U shud also note dat me being a protestant dont in any way mek me 2justify al protestan churches, many wil b sent 2hell because of wrong leaders nd wrong teachings.....B Wise!
(dazed, staggers,falls and faint flat on my face) pls what is the name of the person that recieved this revelation and his church which is the only true church that will inherit heaven according to u. I will really like to check out their website. Take this as just a friendly request from "mr my friend".
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by oiseworld: 9:46am On Jul 31, 2013
Ubenedictus: so you think gay people who "accept the lord and his teaching and are of goodwill" are unrepentant?

How can you accept the Lord's teaching half way and yet claim to accept him. Failure in one is failure in all.

Male and female did God make man, which one is gay again. Maybe am not getting you well, but only straight people can accept God (Born Again). You can't Live in sin and expect grace to abound.
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by akahp(m): 9:50am On Jul 31, 2013
abouzaid: (dazed, staggers,falls and faint flat on my face) pls what is the name of the person that recieved this revelation and his church which is the only true church that will inherit heaven according to u. I will really like to check out their website. Take this as just a friendly request from "mr my friend".
Bros u nid 2grow up in Gods word. Being in a living church doesnt in any way gauranty u heaven
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by Jumaisha(f): 9:51am On Jul 31, 2013
Since he's not God so he has no right to judge anybody
Re: What Did Pope Francis Really Mean By "Who Am I To Judge Gay People"? by oiseworld: 9:53am On Jul 31, 2013
livebullet:

social media proliferation: now anybody can "talk"... even some who still visit a psychiatrist...what a "free" world we living in indeed!... Mr man u better go complete ur half protestant(rebel) bible b4 u gush out rubbish! Bloody protestant!... catholics r talkin, u sef wan talk! who give u license?

Waste of time!
didn't know I had been talking to a poorly brought up kid.
Grow up.

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