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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:09am On May 01, 2021 |
Whyem15: I believe there's an institutional crisis in the army. Our soldiers on video always look and sound so unprofessional. First I thought it was a one off thing, but with each video, it seems much deeper rot has taken place. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:15am On May 01, 2021 |
Covert1: We cannot continue to live in denial, some KLTVs were lost pretty quickly in combat, same as the ISOTEX LAV. Our soldiers often show a high level of unprofessionalism, posting and sharing videos on social media from AOR far too often. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 10:19am On May 01, 2021 |
Kenya army EOD engineers. Somalia 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:59am On May 01, 2021 |
Kaeboy: Lol who no dey for ft ? We gather dey there bro. Even guguru defence. One time like that... raining season 2020 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The baba was sleeping when we begin fire shots for air he thought it was BH, he grab him riffle begin dey charge go front. Then later find out no single groundnut for him magazine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But he's a very great guy. Very very brave ! Damn I miss my boys. But I dey happy for school here o I no go lie. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:05am On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1: Bro it's a madman's job. It is hard to keep your sanity especially when you're not a commission officer. I have ran into my cousins who were not commission officers so many times and each I always want to cry. I have even told them to not bother issuing salute when they see me. They have enough on their plates already. Let me stop here before I say too much. But to God bro, if you have seen what I have seen, making things happen out of nothing, walahi we deserve your praise and not condemnation. 8 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:11am On May 01, 2021 |
abiodunalasa: I don't deny the sacrifice of our soldiers. I'm saying that the men cannot give what they don't have. The military has to be empowered with the right kind of training and constant re-training, as well as rotation from the field at a max service period of 12 months. Just buying weapons does not solve anything if they don't have the right training and morale. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:53am On May 01, 2021 |
abiodunalasa: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I use to think there own is to secure the water ways oooo, I don't know they deploy them with NA. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:27pm On May 01, 2021 |
Kaeboy: Haa those guys have a special unit o. Very very well drilled by the Army. We have NIS too even DSS. I don't trust them tho. Each time they post a none Army to my unit my warning is always clear: if you leave us and nack retreat I will shoot you myself ![]() From experience, they always gel up in the heat of firefight ![]() They usually later get use to it though like 2-3 months in. I wish I can post sweet memorable pictures. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:32pm On May 01, 2021 |
abiodunalasa: ![]() ![]() ![]() They're not used to such party now |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:45pm On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1: Keep posting bro...I can assure that our Red Necks are monitoring this thread bumper to bumper. And they have learn a lot from here walahi. You guys really doing a good job here ![]() 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 1:36pm On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1:This is contradictory somehow. I'd say we don't need only more equipment. I agree with the others 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:06pm On May 01, 2021 |
Odunayaw: I see what you mean. There are 2 line items listed. 1 is for adequate training, and the other is for streamlining of procurement. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 4:44pm On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1: Indeed there's some sort of overlapping of duties all around though well intended doesn't appear well applied. In a real time exigency they can be quickly drafted or absorbed for combat so theoretically they are human force multipliers. But the point I suggested of standing up new forces like the US marines is because of your repeated disappointment with the army. And by standing up a new force I mean another arm of the military, not a paramilitary force but military. The army generally world over by their profile and training fights a certain way. To put it more succinctly the soldier fights like a lion but the marine fights like a tiger. By nature the lion king of the jungle fights if it can win else it prepares for another day but the tiger fights to the death even if it knows it can't win. I have refrained from this suggestion but some of these overlapping security agencies in Nigeria or the burgeoning youth population is fertile for recruitment to stand up a crack 4th military arm of marines that do no tactical retreat but fight to the hilt. They are also suitable as first waves of an expedition. The marines have served the US military well from Vietnam to Iraq and gives the army a run. In some ways it stimulates and motivates the army positively which generally bears the brunt of a nations fight on a large scale. The crises we face today in Nigeria demands some critical change. To the best of my knowledge The 72 mobile strike force of the army and AFSF of DHQ was collapsed in favor of Mobile Strike Teams (MSTs) conducting long range recce patrols apparently under then OPLD theater commander Major General Ibrahim Attahiru now General Attahiru and Chief of Army Staff (COAS). At the onset the work of the MSTs wasn't so evident which led to Gen. Attahiru being adjudged incompetent and relieved of command but subsequently the MSTs appear to have been the arrow head of every theater commander sent to OPLD HQ Maiduguri. The MSTs operate rather quietly but have been the main clearance forces. I was one of the first to say General Attahiru as OPLD theater commander was incompetent but I don't want to believe the demons that followed Gen. Attahiru to OPLD HQ Maiduguri has followed him to Army HQ Abuja. The man is clearly highly educated with innovative ideas that requires time and patience to reap its fruits. We need to give him time. With the recent events in Damasak and elsewhere which saw the army holding the fort without going on the offensive choosing rather to wait for force enablers and close air support while repelling the enemy it clearly shows the new Service Chiefs are wont to work together in synergy in a joint operational environment under the leadership and direction of the Chief of Defense Staff (CDS) General Lucky Irabor. About the loss of equipment as you have alluded some would be lost to attrition, human error, incompetence at some level and even the elements. We can do more to mitigate them to slow the enemy but any army would always be greedy for more equipment and for me we don't yet have enough in sufficient numbers. Training is a continuous and should be tailor specific for troops being deployed up north. Most of the soldiers go with their basic skills which may not be the required advanced CT/COIN skills set. But I must add they have done creditably well under the circumstances with what they have. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 5:07pm On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1: Soldiers are generally like that. You need to come into personal contact with a British soldier or most soldiers of the advanced countries and you will be shocked at the vulgarity especially when drunk. Russians are some of the toughest you will find. It takes a certain level of madness to do the job. It is one reason why we say an officer and a gentleman. It is not everybody that can have the discipline to kill for a just cause and remain sane. Except one is criminal minded by nature give a man a gun to shoot another man and he won't be able to fire his weapon. Men are chosen carefully. Discipline should be enforced but sometimes you cut the soldiers some slack especially when they are not in uniform and not on duty else you may have a morale problem common in war. 6 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:36pm On May 01, 2021 |
When the Quarter-master says, "I have some crater bombs in my stores that are about to expire. Would anybody like to take them and go play?" ![]() ![]() ![]() 6 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 9:05pm On May 01, 2021 |
kabe1:72MSF AND AFSF IS NOT DISBAND |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 9:15pm On May 01, 2021 |
Covert1:THE 72 MOBLIE STRIKE FORCE/SF AND AFSF IS VERY ACTIVE . 72MSF/SF HAVE THEIR BATTALION IS BEUNE STATE. WHILE THE AFSF HAVE THEIR BATTALION IN ABUJA UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER AND THE CDS. I DO NOT KNOW WHO LIE TO YOU PEOPLE ABOUT THE CLOSING OF 72MSF AND AFSF. SOME AFSF AND 72MST ARE IN THE BATTLEFIELD, AND GOES TO HIGH THREAT MISSION. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Covert1: 9:56pm On May 01, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Please give us any citation of their recent activity in the Borno theater of operations. We all know where they are or were based. The 72 MSF had been in existence long before the AFSF which was created as a matter of exigency by the former CDS General Gabriel Olonishakin. Today there's a proliferation of many army special forces units across the north east used as the spear. The guys here know the 72nd no longer operates in the North East in the mould it did under the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan. Then BHTs occupied large swathes of territory and the 72nd was prominent in dislodging them. Today a different dynamic exists in theater and the commanders have since adjusted. There's no recent evidence of the AFSF operating as it did under General Olonishakin rather these units operate more independently across the theater. The Nigerian Army has multiple Special Forces. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 4:08am On May 02, 2021 |
Covert1: The attention of the Defence Headquarters is drawn to numerous publications in the media and other online blogs reporting massive killing and destruction of houses and other property by the military in Konshisha LGA of Benue State. The Defence Headquarters which has oversight responsibility for Operation WHIRL STROKE deployed to maintain peace in Benue, Nasarawa and Taraba States, has deemed it necessary to refute these spurious allegations and put the records straight. There have been incessant cases of communal clashes in recent times between the people of Konshisha and Oju over boundary demarcation. As part of efforts to resolve the crisis, the Benue State Government held series of meetings with stakeholders from both local governments with a view to arriving at amicable solution to the problem. Appreciable progress has been made and a final date fixed for all stakeholders to meet in the disputed areas to fully demarcate the boundary so that peace could reign. Trouble however started on the eve of the final meeting during Easter holiday, with reports that fresh fighting has broken out in the area. All along, 72 Special Forces Battalion has troops deployed on the Oju side of the boundary and troops of the Battalion were on their way to replenish their colleagues on 5 April 2021, when they were attacked by armed bandits at Bonta in Konshisha. The troops who were under command of a Captain were seized at a checkpoint mounted by the so called “Bonta Boys” and taken into Konshisha forest where they were all brutally murdered. Not satisfied with killing the soldiers, the bandits proceeded to burn all the eleven soldiers and their officer beyond recognition while their weapons and ammunition were carted away. Military reinforcements were dispatched to Bonta the following morning. Unfortunately, the reinforcement also came under attack from close to 500 armed youths who by this time had fully occupied Bonta. The sheer number of youths involved in the attacks suggests that the armed bandits cannot be from Bonta alone, but were joined by bandits from other parts of Konshisha LGA. The military repelled the attack after more than 4 hours of intense fighting during which military helicopter provided close air support to ground troops. Ten armed bandits were killed during the fight with the rifle of one of the Killed in action soldiers recovered from the bandits who fell casualty during the exchange of fire...... https://defenceinfo.mil.ng/update-on-situation-in-konshisha-local-government-area-of-benue-state/ 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 5:44am On May 02, 2021 |
Whyem15: The problem now is determining whether 72 SF battalion is the same or related to 72 MSF. 72 SF battalion has been existing for a long time though, it was formerly 72 paratroopers battalion. Part of what made the 72 MSF very effective was that they had their own dedicated air components. That was when the gazelles and some other aircrafts were rented. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by youghs: 6:09am On May 02, 2021 |
tutudesz: The factory employs between 400 to 2000 workers |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 3:23pm On May 02, 2021 |
Whyem15:about 80 men were taken from 72 SF with almost the same number from different units, selected and trained by Barlow's group and named the 72MSF. Their effective was also due to efficient leadership (with loads of hot experience). Also, they did things that actually worked not training manuals and inshAllah When Barlow left rather unceremoniously everyone returned to their tents. The Strike Group was built on their philosophy sha 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Jimi24: 5:46pm On May 02, 2021 |
kabe1: Rushed training without TRADOC elements. No more good RSMs in the Army. These are the two reasons. Some of the war songs are beginning to sound like university cult songs. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:54pm On May 02, 2021 |
Picture and Videos thread. Please. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:55pm On May 02, 2021 |
Training programme completed for Nigerian navy sailors aboard new Aresa boats 4 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:00am On May 03, 2021 |
Nigerian navy 9 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:06am On May 03, 2021 |
kabe1:Deep blue MSU Drawn from NN and NA amphibious brigade 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 9:26am On May 03, 2021 |
Covert1: If I'm reading you correctly you want the following: - a spearhead unit, to assault and seize territory for follow up forces -also an expeditionary unit, capable of nearby foreign warfighting, ideally amphibious capable - most ofc have ALL own platforms from air transport/CAS/armour/logistics etc,etc These are the given requirements of the USMC Marine Expeditionary Unit, a brigade size unit, the basis of their unit structure. An MEU is normally composed of: a reinforced USMC infantry battalion (designated as a Battalion Landing Team) as the ground combat element, a composite medium tiltrotor squadron forming the aviation combat element, a combat logistics battalion providing the logistics combat element, and a company-size command element serving as the MEU headquarters group. Troop strength is about 2,200 members and usually commanded by a colonel, and is deployed from amphibious assault ships. Currently, an MEU embarks personnel and equipment onto the amphibious warfare ships of an expeditionary strike group (ESG) which also includes escort warships and submarines to protect them from air, surface, and submarine threats. For further protection and strong air support, an ESG is often deployed along with one or more carrier strike groups.The[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_expeditionary_unit/url] These platforms easily cost well North of 5 bn USD but despite same requirements Naij could scale down. Eg a lone bn with 16 Mi8s, 8 Mi 35s, UAV squadron, HQ Coy, single support coy incl 4 T 90 S and maybe 3 CASA 295s. All for under a half billion USD. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 10:16am On May 03, 2021 |
Covert1:. oga the 72msf and afsf are in the battlefied. the person told you guys that 72msf and afsf are not in the battlefied are is liaring. the afsf and 72msf. i will do intel about their operation later |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 10:23am On May 03, 2021 |
Whyem15:sir the 72sf and 72msf and 72 paratrooper are the same the 72 moblie srike force have being the major name since the 2006. before being change to 72sf . my very close relative serve in that battalion before is death. i |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raeblack: 12:05pm On May 03, 2021 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:03am On May 05, 2021 |
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