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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Hisbanner: 6:36pm On Aug 28, 2013
Hey is evil ooooh
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 6:45pm On Aug 28, 2013
GraphicsPlus: Okorocha has legalized murder.
This is what happens when things are not regulated, 36,000 deaths happen because of girls going to non professions to get an abortion. Do you know what a fetus is apparently you need to google it. When it is regulated some greedy person will be doing this to 8 month old pregnancy. If it is legal or not guys and girls will still use back room pharmacists to carry it out, and they really do kill people. Don't you get it this is what happens when it is illegal put the whole story with the picture. This was done in the back of someone's shop. It is not legal but it is still being done unsafely.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 7:02pm On Aug 28, 2013
Idi Amin: Seriously, catholics should stop this their "holier than thou" attitude. Why are they complaining when their so called Rev SISTERS are the major players in "ABORTION SECTOR". I just read the article in between the lines now and understood the content of the bill. Why would a woman keep a pregnancy for an armed robber/rapist or a pregnancy that might endanger her life? undecided
My bro in Christ Jesus pls read 2corinthians 5:6-10 man's life is short and vanity, why should you enter hell-fire becouse of this worldly education, job, social, and wealth that does'nt last, Human being is nothing, why can't we obey GOD in this short life we are living in this ending world. Thanks
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by kleveg: 7:05pm On Aug 28, 2013
The issue here is not the denomination one belong, catholic or non catholic but the gravity and consequences of this bill. we have seen the clause the guides the bill, in time of molestation,intimate assult, inbreeding. but the question is, how do we know that a woman going for abortion has been molested or raped. looking at the nature of this bill, our young girls are bound to abuse it in time to come. owning to the fact that there is no criteria that will prove that a girl pushing for abortion is actully raped or assulted

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 7:06pm On Aug 28, 2013
ladenz:
lol. ahem ahem. that is actually my mother and father when we were young embarassed
nice try undecided
ladenz:
NL sent you a mail on my behalf because u are nt connected sad
actually emm. I hope you're not taking me seriously. Was just trolling. wink
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 7:09pm On Aug 28, 2013
Lets talk Facts:
• Nearly half of all abortions worldwide are unsafe, and nearly all unsafe abortions (98%) occur in developing countries. In the developing world, 56% of all abortions are unsafe, compared with just 6% in the developed world. [1]
• The proportion of abortions worldwide that take place in the developing world increased between 1995 and 2008 from 78% to 86%, in part because the proportion of all women who live in the developing world increased during this period. [1]
Since 2003, the number of abortions fell by 600,000 in the developed world (western Worlds where abortion is legal) but [b]increased by 2.8 million in the developing world.(In Africa where it is illegal except South Africa where they have the least abortions in Africa) In 2008, six million abortions were performed in developed countries and 38 million shocked shocked in developing countries, a disparity that largely reflects population distribution. [1][/b]
A woman’s likelihood of having an abortion is slightly elevated if she lives in a developing region. In 2008, there were 29 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years in developing countries, compared with 24 in the developed world. [1]


Illegal abortions are more in Africa then legal abortions in America and UK

The overall abortion rate in Africa, where the vast majority of abortions are illegal and unsafe, showed no decline between 2003 and 2008, holding at 29 abortions per 1,000 women of childbearing age.

Why is it that South Africa has legal abortion but the least women seek it in this country?

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_IAW.html

90% NIGERIAN MEN [b]would NOT[/b]adopt a child or want to raise a child that does not belong to him.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by olawumia(m): 7:13pm On Aug 28, 2013
What is d whole brouhaha and fuss abt d abortion thing. If I may ask if armed robber sud rape one of s critics sister or daughter and it leads to pregnancy. Ll dey keep it? We sud constructive when we are criticizing.
If ur wife pregnancy endangers her life ll u keep it?
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Vansnickers: 7:23pm On Aug 28, 2013
I personally support Abortion, most especially when the life of the baby and mother is at risk if the baby is not removed.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 7:25pm On Aug 28, 2013
So how are we going to solve the problem of the youths not having jobs. What about the rate that these children that are abandoned join Boko Boys or become armed robbers. According to Catholics women should not take birth control because it is murder

Look at this chart very closely, all of those fighting the governor should make plans on creating jobs for the youth, providing food and school fees for even the married women that continue to have babies they can not afford. Lets talk about real solutions to real problems

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 7:31pm On Aug 28, 2013
berem: smh.... don't let me quarrel with you Okija. angry
pls don't quarrel for GOD's sake
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by jenuel: 7:46pm On Aug 28, 2013
Rochas is not a true catholic indeed. The church helped him to power and so shall he be removed. ABORTION IS MORE THAN FLOGGING A PRIEST THAT REMOVED OHAKIM FROM DOUGLAS HOUSE. The war has just begun.NO ANTICHRIST WILL OCCUPY DOUGLAS HOUSE AGAIN, amen
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Patyaks: 7:50pm On Aug 28, 2013
i cant imagin my okorocha the people chois doin dis.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 8:01pm On Aug 28, 2013
torhuke:
What is d statistics of abortion in countries like Nigeria and Ghana wher abortion is illegal? And what is d statistic of child birth, still born and maternal mortality rate in Nigeria compared to the UK? What is the statistics of roam-about children (future thugs, prostitutes, stowaways, kidnapers, and boko haram recruits etc) in Nigeria compared to d UK?
The fact is more illegal abortions are taking place in Nigeria a survey conducted by Guttmacher research institute in Nigeria, they discovered that Nigerian women obtain approximately 610,000 abortions,(That is more then any EU country) a rate of 25 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 years of age. The rate is much lower in the poor, rural regions of northern Nigeria than in the more economically developed southern regions. Also, an estimated 40 per cent of abortions are performed by physicians in established health facilities, while 60% are performed by non physicians in the back of a shop.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 8:08pm On Aug 28, 2013
chukwudi44:

Just the picture alone is offensive to you yet you are applauding the evil act.How hypocritical!!The act is 1million times more offensive than the pictures the dude posted.Okorocha should not push his luck too far.He better learn from what happened to Ohakim.The catholic church brough him to power ,they can equally bring him down.

From the above statistics, it becomes obvious that although abortion is illegal in Nigeria, thousands of women resort to it each year. Nigerian law makes it a crime to perform or to obtain an abortion except to save a woman’s life. Penalties exist for any person who performs an abortion, as well as for any woman who seeks an abortion or who attempts to cause her own miscarriage. In Nigeria, abortion is illegal and carries a stiff jail sentence, up to 14 years, unless done to save the life of the pregnant woman. But still as it is illegal over 660,000 are carried out every year that is 1/2 a million. Deaths due to unsafe abortion remain close to 13 percent of all maternal deaths. So what do we do to solve this problem. It is easy to come here and shout evil but how do we solve the problem?
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 28, 2013
biafranqueen:

From the above statistics, it becomes obvious that although abortion is illegal in Nigeria, thousands of women resort to it each year. Nigerian law makes it a crime to perform or to obtain an abortion except to save a woman’s life. Penalties exist for any person who performs an abortion, as well as for any woman who seeks an abortion or who attempts to cause her own miscarriage. In Nigeria, abortion is illegal and carries a stiff jail sentence, up to 14 years, unless done to save the life of the pregnant woman. But still as it is illegal over 660,000 are carried out every year that is 1/2 a million. Deaths due to unsafe abortion remain close to 13 percent of all maternal deaths. So what do we do to solve this problem. It is easy to come here and shout evil but how do we solve the problem?
Thanks for your post. Your really made sense.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Asabeq(f): 8:22pm On Aug 28, 2013
Nbilim angry! The gay priests are no more priests ok!
mathskill: If they can accommodate gay priests i see no reason why they should deny a lady her right to a genuine abortion.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 8:38pm On Aug 28, 2013
olawumia: What is d whole brouhaha and fuss abt d abortion thing. If I may ask if armed robber sud rape one of s critics sister or daughter and it leads to pregnancy. Ll dey keep it? We sud constructive when we are criticizing.
If ur wife pregnancy endangers her life ll u keep it?
In what ever you do, fear God first, the fear of the Lord is the begining of wisdom, so what ever causes you sin take it away, life is short, hell is real, believe it or not, wether the person that told you is holy or not will not stop it's truth.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by rossi49ja(m): 8:42pm On Aug 28, 2013
Idi Amin: Seriously, catholics should stop this their "holier than thou" attitude. Why are they complaining when their so called Rev SISTERS are the major players in "ABORTION SECTOR". I just read the article in between the lines now and understood the content of the bill. Why would a woman keep a pregnancy for an armed robber/rapist or a pregnancy that might endanger her life? undecided
Dude what's your beef with the Catholic Church that you never pass the slightest opportunity to throw spikes at her...what has Rev Sisters got to do with this issue?. FYI,the Catholic Church has and will always stand against abortion...it's pure murder. Finally, If taking a unique stance against abortion by catholics ranks as being 'holier than thou' then let the trend continue.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Nobody: 9:05pm On Aug 28, 2013
biafranqueen:

From the above statistics, it becomes obvious that although abortion is illegal in Nigeria, thousands of women resort to it each year. Nigerian law makes it a crime to perform or to obtain an abortion except to save a woman’s life. Penalties exist for any person who performs an abortion, as well as for any woman who seeks an abortion or who attempts to cause her own miscarriage. In Nigeria, abortion is illegal and carries a stiff jail sentence, up to 14 years, unless done to save the life of the pregnant woman. But still as it is illegal over 660,000 are carried out every year that is 1/2 a million. Deaths due to unsafe abortion remain close to 13 percent of all maternal deaths. So what do we do to solve this problem. It is easy to come here and shout evil but how do we solve the problem?

So because murder of these babies still continue even when it is illegal we should go ahead to legalise the murder of these innocent kids just to reduce the rate @ which they are murdered.Is that the point you are trying to make?

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by clint77ng: 9:06pm On Aug 28, 2013
Garri the 1st: These Catholic doctors should go and sleep joor.

The Law specifically mentions situations in which a woman can legitimately seek abortion. Women must of course have necessary rights to determine what happens to their body.

If a lady is RAP£D and becomes pregnant she has a right to abort the pregnancy if she so desires.

Nigeria isn't a Christian state, hence Christians should know that even the bible's stance on abortion is binding only on conscientious christians and shouldn't form the law of a state.

cool cool
Mumu, r we talking about Naija or Imo. Imo is a christian state and he rode on the back of catholics to be there. God detest killing of any form.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Owilar(m): 9:13pm On Aug 28, 2013
Every sensible law must be made from the Holy Bible. You better go back and read what the Bible talks about abortion t.e(killing) before the wrath of God falls on you.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by pazienza(m): 9:35pm On Aug 28, 2013
chukwudi44:
sorry we are in a democrazy which is a govermentof the majority.Rochas should strive to d the will of he people who elected him



Nnaa, we are no longer in the era of village gathering, where all members of the society get to contribute in decision making of the town, we are in the era of representative democracy. The law in question was not made by Okorocha,as he doesn't have such powers, the law was made by imo state legislature, whose members are supposed to be representatives of all the imolites, and whose decisions are supposed to be that of all imolites they represent.


Okorocha didn't make that law, he merely signed the bill into law, if you have problem with that, take your case to the member of imo state legislative body that is representing your town.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by INJESUSITRUST: 9:41pm On Aug 28, 2013
biafranqueen:

From the above statistics, it becomes obvious that although abortion is illegal in Nigeria, thousands of women resort to it each year. Nigerian law makes it a crime to perform or to obtain an abortion except to save a woman’s life. Penalties exist for any person who performs an abortion, as well as for any woman who seeks an abortion or who attempts to cause her own miscarriage. In Nigeria, abortion is illegal and carries a stiff jail sentence, up to 14 years, unless done to save the life of the pregnant woman. But still as it is illegal over 660,000 are carried out every year that is 1/2 a million. Deaths due to unsafe abortion remain close to 13 percent of all maternal deaths. So what do we do to solve this problem. It is easy to come here and shout evil but how do we solve the problem?
please my dear, read Ephesians 5: 10-17,,, fornication is sin, u see" person fornicate and crawn it with abortion [murder] hmm, hell is real, now! you talks of 660,000, but remember the bible said, many are called but few are choosed, now" you want to join many or few? Holiness is posible for those who believe.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by pazienza(m): 9:41pm On Aug 28, 2013
Owilar: Every sensible law must be made from the Holy Bible. You better go back and read what the Bible talks about abortion t.e(killing) before the wrath of God falls on you.


Same way muslims believe every law must be made from the holy koran. same reason why we have boko haram today. You can keep the laws of your holy books, no one is disturbing you, but you mustn't drag others along with you.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Antivirus92(m): 10:14pm On Aug 28, 2013
EVIL THAT MEN DO LIVES WITH AND AFTER THEM. SO BE IT WITH EVIL ONES!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Odyluv: 10:32pm On Aug 28, 2013
Xplodes2700: When i read some people's comment here am disapointed the way they think, i'm in support of the bill, pregnancy as a result of molestation or rape can be aborted, if you know the psychological and emotional pain the mother go through, plus the stigma attached to her from the society, if She's a student, her education is affected, and who will easy marry a single mum? Please lets not allow religion affect our sense Reasoning

I knw there is a lot of psychological trauma as a result of rape pregnancy,but I don't think having an abortn wud ease it.there are some women who have had baby by mistake or rape and stil had good education, career and married an honorable man.life is about determination, this law wud definitely going to be abuse, if a girl say I was raped, how wud knw if it is true or not.

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Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Okijajuju1(m): 10:45pm On Aug 28, 2013
Simon21: stop reasoning on a shallow base please, we also can't shy away from the fact that abortion endangers d life of our female folks, we all know of cases of young girls loosing their life while attempting abortion so try comparing your so called "psychological and emotional pains" to d gross dangers involved in abortion.

you also forget that most abortion related deaths are due to the illegality status of abortions in Nigeria. Make it legal a d then females will stop using quacks.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 10:56pm On Aug 28, 2013
chukwudi44:

So because murder of these babies still continue even when it is illegal we should go ahead to legalise the murder of these innocent kids just to reduce the rate @ which they are murdered.Is that the point you are trying to make?
Yes that is the point I ma making in South Africa it is legal and they have less abortions then any where in Africa.
What is your solution?
33,000 women died last year from illegal abortions!
I am waiting for your own solutions not just shouting religious dogma!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by Double27: 10:59pm On Aug 28, 2013
Just remember that whatever you write here will always influence some people in one way or the other, think before commenting.
Do not allow sentiment or use grammer to support what is wrong. ABORTION is a SIN. It against humanity and divinity.
You don't need to be a catholic to know this fact.
Give that child the same opportunity you had to live, Take the child to the motherless babies home or convent if you cannot take good care of her.
The truma of keeping the pregnancy is nothing compared to the weeping of the baby if aborted.
Obey God rather than obey man.
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 11:05pm On Aug 28, 2013
INJESUSITRUST: please my dear, read Ephesians 5: 10-17,,, fornication is sin, u see" person fornicate and crawn it with abortion [murder] hmm, hell is real, now! you talks of 660,000, but remember the bible said, many are called but few are choosed, now" you want to join many or few? Holiness is posible for those who believe.
For your information MY HUSBAND is the only man that got me pregnant and I don't even go to church, so please save your bible verse because that is not going to save the 33,000 women and girls that have already died last year. What is the solution because we know that out of those 660,000 women that have had abortion 99% of them, I am sure go to church so that is not a solution. Where the abortion rates are low is in the rural North where they have the highest number of homeless children because a women can have numerous pregnancies but only keeps 2 or 3 of the children the rest have to fend for themselves.

Please give me a solution Nigeria is full of religion but top the charts as the most atrocities. Why is religion not working for us?

Please provide a solution not a verse!
Re: Okorocha, Catholic Doctors At War Over Abortion Law by biafranqueen: 11:07pm On Aug 28, 2013
Double27: Just remember that whatever you write here will always influence some people in one way or the other, think before commenting.
Do not allow sentiment or use grammer to support what is wrong. ABORTION is a SIN. It against humanity and divinity.
You don't need to be a catholic to know this fact.
Give that child the same opportunity you had to live, Take the child to the motherless babies home or convent if you cannot take good care of her.
The truma of keeping the pregnancy is nothing compared to the weeping of the baby if aborted.
Obey God rather than obey man.
How many motherless baby homes do you support. Or which one do you support. How many have you visit? You people are quick to tell them to drop them off but they are already under funded. Would you adopt a motherless child

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