KA24DETT:


At the time of the attack, the Japanese has been crushed militarily. That's why I said u should go read up more.
On The flight to drop the atomic bomb, there was NO resistance from the Japanese air force. None bro. There is no Japanese plan to invade America. None.
It was the soviet offensive that caused the Japanese to surrender and NOT the bomb.
I told you to go watch "OLIVER STONE , UNTOLD HISTORY OF AMERICA" . Un biased documentary about how the world works. No propaganda.

ALISMILE: Truth is i dont belong to any side,i just luv beautifu and expletive writeup that is able to make its points clear to raeaders who want tobe infoermed,wit facts,points and evidence.Like i said ur write up could not nail any of his points. And i hate it wen somebdy who cannot match anoda is tryin rubbish the person.

all4naija:

I read your previous long comment, it is only sensitizing the whole situation along the line you have been programmed to see.

all4naija: You need to ask yourself. Why are they given it up and signing to the NPCW at this point? The fact remains these chemical weapons produced by the rogue state of Russia is becoming dangerous to handle in war when the use has be banned long time ago. Keep alluding to what you see to be reasoning out of your mere sentiment.

all4naija: I have long see people like you who are held on to information they makeup calling it fact. Indeed some go as far as to accuse America of every little shortcomings as if America is perfect and as such doesn't have the right to interfere in any things outside it border, ordering USA government around as though it is a child why praising rogue state. Obama government needs to spank any nation proofing dangerous to the world like in the case of Syria and its government.

all4naija: However, your link and information in it is nothing new. That hasn't changed the fact there are tyrants around the world making slaves out of its own citizens. Whether it is in the middle east, Asia,Americas or Africa there is need to keep watch on this barbaric leaders who are playing their citizens for games. You refuse to see how Russian intervention in the side of Syrian dictator is a thing of interest rather than making the world a better place. It comes at a point when Putin is protecting their base in Syria and possibly protecting their interest of selling weapons to Al Assad. If it is USA people will scream foul and double standard yet nobody is talking about that. It is funny how Russia that doesn't listen to UN when stripping Georgia naked in face of the world is trying to act as though responsible, what a nonsensical strategy to look innocent, innocent only in the eyes of the foolish. It is clear many people are just afraid of the bully Russia. If America should take to such uncivilized way I don't think any nation would be at peace by now. Be as it may USA is still more qualify than Russia to sort this Syrian crisis, either through the use of force or dialogue. Whatever works is fully acceptable.[/i]

all4naija:

Sorry, you are not making any sense. You beat around the bush to much in your write-up. Too much circumlocution just to remain relevant yet you fail to do so.

The worst thing is that the pea-brains will like this your comment very soon.

Underground:

I see. So an investigative journalist was very smart and clairvoyant enough to plan the chaos that is unfolding in Syria 4 years in advance and then blame the other party, when the crisis ensues, which that journalist had clearly stated would be those responsible for this very chaos? It just so happens that is it not by coincidence that these participants: Bandar Ibn Sultan, Qatar, the sunni jihadists, the US govt, etc are all involved? I see...

I am posting the link once again for you. Please enjoy:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all

Underground:
Oga, the Assad adminstration has forwarded their evidence to the United Nations. Can you say same for the United States? Perhaps we no longer need the United Nations and we should follow have-faith-in-what-we-say intelligence that the US is peddling?

Underground:
America has chemical weapons. Britain has got chemical weapons. Russia has got chemical weapons. Israel has got chemical weapons. What else is new under the sun? And as a matter of fact, contrary to what you are insinuating, the British and German government (surprise, surprise!!) have been most active in selling poison chemicals to the Assad administration.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415081/Britain-sent-poison-chemicals-Assad-Proof-UK-delivered-Sarin-agent-Syrian-regime.html
http://rt.com/news/germany-sarin-gas-syria-040/

Underground:
Where exactly did u read that rogue state of Russia (lol) along with Syria are the last remaining custodians of chemical weapons? Where in Heaven's name do you get your news from?

And about Syria giving up it's chemical weapons stockpile, was a smart move to thwart the efforts of this jihadists from forcing western intervention should they decide to use chemical weapons again as they have been suspected to.

Underground:
Oya, point out one madeup story that I have provided and presented it as fact? Did I time travel t0 2007 and create an individual by the name of Seymour Hersh out of thin air and pen that article? Point where I have accused America of every ill there is in the world today.
What exactly is the meaning of a rogue state?? A state that observes international law or one that doesn't and acts unilaterally and with braggadocio? I believe you already know the answer to your question.

Underground:
Oh yes there are tyrants abound. Kim Jung Un is a tyrant. Assad is also a tyrant. So also was Batista of Cuba, Mobutu of Zaire and Pinochet of Chile, etc. America wasn't keeping watch on these tyrants it would seem as long their interests were protected. And it seems you would rather have bloodletting jihadists running amok beheading and committing sectarian strife than a tyrant that still enjoys majority support amongst his people. No problem.

Underground:
Yes, Russia has intervened on behalf of Syria - the legitimate government by the way - for their selfish reasons. What country doesn't put it's interests first? I guess America doesn't right? Its all humanitarian and for the greater good of mankind! Russia watched from the sidelined as America and it's allies plundered and destabilized countries such as Iraq and Libya and unleashed a new wave of terrorism and jihadism. As a black man, why don't you pay a visit Tawargha in Libya and see if you can walk freely as blacks used to under the protection of the Ghadaffi government.

Underground:
As you have stated yourself, dialogue is not only an option in resolving this crisis. It is the only option.

Underground:


How else would you like me to state it? In another language? I coudn't have been clearer and more direct

Am off for a wedding....BYE

mankand:

Goat goat goat. I have been quiet all day watching the thread but I was forced to comment again. Is it not insane to talk about gay or accuse putin for not legalizing gay? I guess you are one of them or your were born via gay partners.

Russia is a religious country regardless what the West portrays it to be.

The war in Syria was hijacked by the West as a result of their interest. There was a meeting in Syria where syrians requested for reforms for some improvement in their lives. Majority of syrians love assad and never asked him to step down.

You have been brainwashed with cnn, BBC etc just as much as you have been brainwashed with white supremacy and hat America is the almighty. How will I trust a government that sniff into my affairs, how will I trust a government that that claims they back human right but they do not practice what they preach. No wonder Snowden said Americans are the biggest fools because they are been brainwashed and lied to by their government until they started realising it. Now majority of Americans see it that they have the devil as their government. I want you to stop reading the mainstream media, they are owned by the same Devils and criminal.

Get your facts right before making any post or comment

fydence: A Million Likes jor!!! Too many CNN/BBC fans talking gilberish up there...yet their 'Messiah America' kills children daily... By the way, They have Chemical Weapons bt thatz alryt for these goons...its america afterall. I'm sure these ones forming 'foreign affairs analysts' with their comments know more than Snowden who is an Insider.....CNN Hypo dey really dey wipe oooo..Rubbish!!

Underground:
Oga, the Assad adminstration has forwarded their evidence to the United Nations. Can you say same for the United States? Perhaps we no longer need the United Nations and we should follow have-faith-in-what-we-say intelligence that the US is peddling?

mollusco: Why are people ignoring the apparent truth? McCain is probably a lying SOB, yes. Did the Syrian government use chemical weapon on its own citizens? Yes. Is the Syrian government being supported by Putin? Yes. Who represents the worse evil?

all4naija: Shut up, you 'village' bug!

ronalmagic10:

How did you know for sure that the Syrian government is responsible for the chemical attack? Are you a member of the UN team that went to investigate the accusation or did you choose to believe it because America says so?

The Guardian:
While the US media focuses on events in
Egypt, Syria and elsewhere, the people of Bahrain continue to risk their
freedom, their mental and physical well-being, and their lives, to carry on with their demands for democracy and
human rights. Members of the political
opposition, human rights activists,
doctors and ordinary Bahraini citizens have been arbitrarily detained , charged with crimes such as "inciting hatred of the regime" and "attempting to overthrow the government", tortured as a form of punishment and as a means to acquiring forced confessions, and killed by excessive use of force.
The popular protest movement in
Bahrain began on 14 February 2011. At
one point, early in the uprising, an
estimated quarter of Bahrain's
population participated in nonviolent
protests. That is equivalent to 75 million Americans protesting simultaneously.
The Bahraini regime and its Gulf Co-
operation Council partners, led by Saudi Arabia, crushed the protests with overwhelming force.

thoth:

It is already Nigeria now, why do you think Boko Haram was getting sophisticated and what role do you think it was set up to play if not the same role Western Sponsored terrorist played in Libya and Syria.
why do you think we have IMF/World Bank witches like Okonjo Iweala and other minions destroying our economy if not to frustrate Nigerians and get them susceptible to Violence in order to be ready for 2015 American predicted division of Nigeria.

Why do you think that all of a sudden all western puppet nations all over Africa systematically started harassing Nigerians and deporting them if not to send that same message that we must divide.
Why would after Nigerian Intervention in Sierra lean which almost eclipsed US influence in that country would US all of a sudden tilt its policies towards Nigeria.

The game has started and Boko Haram is the gunpowder. we are just playing into their hands and many of our leaders are conscious or a game but they being unintelligent does not know what the end plan is, they all thought it is corruption as usual.

Nigeria's game has started, it has just not reached the level that ordinary masses will notice it, with the level of ignorance our the masses it will succeed and only many decades after will it be revealed what really happened.

GH PATRIOT:
Dillusion Galore!

gbadexy: Putin addressed americans in regards to their aggressive foreign policy, I see the address by mccain as being petty and unrelated to the matter on ground.
America's economy too is in tatters now and we all don't have to be gay lovers! They are trying to blackmail governments into allowing homosexuality round the world!
I think its time for america to fall like all previous empires.

Bimpss:

Don't be too sure, you never know. The guy/gal brings up good points.

GH PATRIOT:

The points he outlined are self inflicted. Was it the USA who ordered a crackdown against the Boko haram which resulted in the extra judicial killing of the B0k0 haram leader?

If he believes puppet African countries are deporting Nigerians on the orders of America, then who is ordering the lagos state governor who is also deporting his fellow citizens?

Why should you shield your leaders who have clearly failed to forge a Nigerian identity and blame it on America conspiracy?


Look through my posts on this Thread, I am not brainwashed by USA mind games, but I will not descend to the point of absurdity just comment.

Bimpss:

ok maybe the deportation part of his post was a little bit flawed, but I wouldn't totally debunk his claim of boko haram considering the fact that the US (CIA) created the Taliban .

GH PATRIOT:

First 0ff! The USA's creation of the Taliban was not given a critical analysis by the state department.
During the cold war, both USSR and USA were involved in proxy wars. The taliban received funding, training and military materials because they had a common aim of dislodging USSR's influence in the region vis-a-vis USSR's invasion of Afghanistan.
After eight massive casualty years the USSR exited afghanistan, with their tail in between their legs.
To cut a long story short, the Taliban then felt they had arrived and could do what they did to USSR to USA, forgeting that you don't bite the hand that feeds you, and that it takes a super power to defeat a super power they are still learning the Hard Way through Drone Attacks!
So my sister, [size=13pt]Boko Haram is a domestic(Nigeria) problem which the USA should not take the fall for.[/size]

Bimpss:

But what if they aren't though
? what if there is more to it that meets the eye
? We as africans sit on our butts and watch things unfold in front of us without getting suspicious of it. The main reason I got very suspicious and started looking at the connection between boko haram and the U.S is when they mentioned that Nigeria will divide in 2015. How did they know that
?? Are they psychic or somethin ? As far as i know, I don't think Nigeria is planning for a war to happen soon. Well apart from the corruption and the lack of leadership in Nigeria, Nigeria's biggest problem is Boko Haram. That's where Nigeria gets divided, southern Nigerians start to hate Northern Nigerians because they feel Northern Nigerians are killing southern Nigerians. It seems like a planned out strategy to me, almost like a war strategy "Turn the two sides against each other and they will fight." All I am trying to say is that if Nigeria was to divide in 2015, it would be because the country is getting heated, (I.E too many people are dying) and like that guy said Boko Haram are getting advanced by the minute, so who is the master mind behind it ? Who is funding the ? (It can't possibly be some ambitious politician who wants a seat in the government, why go through all that trouble when you can just take it
? ) many people overlook this things because they seem crazy and far fetched, but to me it is worth getting suspicious about.

Underground: all4naija , lets not dwell too much on sentiments. These are the facts- irrefutable and clear as day:

1. The events in Syria have longed been planned. Evidence is abundant to show this. Wesley Clark's 7 countries video, award winning investigive journalist Seymour Hersh's article "The Re-direction", Brookings Institution's "Which Path to Persia" & "Assesing Options for Regime Change" , etc all foretell what laid in wait for Syria and then Iran. All these. videos, reports and articles are available online. It is left for you to research them by yourselves. How someone can wave all this aside as fairy tales or propaganda baffles me.

2. Quite a number of these so called freedom fighters are invading jihadists from as far away as Chechnya and Libya. This is very much evident in recent times as even the mainstream media can no longer avoid reporting this fact as well. The actors in this conflict as foretold in point 1 above so happen to be the very same actors involved in this conflict. We have also witnessed the barbaric atrocities that are being committed by these invaders all backed, armed and financed by their western sponsors and arab gulf states.


3. Contrary to what some of you may believe, Assad still enjoys popular support amongst his people. His figures are what leaders in some western states can only dream of. Oh yes he is a tyrant but would you rather a tyrant or a state stricken by sectarian strife and one that becomes a breedingground for terrorists and jihadists? This is the reality in places such as Libya and Iraq which have become cespools of violence and extremism.
I unusually watched a special edition of Piers Morgan's show on CNN a few weeks back and who would have believed that all the Syrian Americans and Syrians living in America - Sunni, Alawaite, Shia, etc- in attendance were all in support of the "Assad regime". They even reiterated that this was also the case back home in Syria and that quite a number of these "rebels" were invading and strange foreigners that was plunging the country into a sectarian civil war. HOW SHOCKED I WAS THAT CNN could air this!! Well, it's probably because the anti-war movement is so strong, so pervasive, so popular that even the mainstream media can no longer spin the war case and sell it to an increasingly doubtful public that doesn't trust its govt any longer.


4. Based on the lies and fabrications of past campaigns, the United States has lost its credibility and support for this new misadventure has been very tepid. The international community clearly won't be railroaded into another senseless war and unaffordable war. The American people have spoken (91% against war), the British parliament and its people have also made their stance clear. The only supporters for this misguided campaign are the leaders of those countries that seek personal and selfish gains. You can read on the Sunni/Shia divide, the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Europe pipeline, etc. It's all there on the internet for you to research for yourself. Google is your friend!


5. Contrary to what some of you may also believe, the Syrian and Russian government have individually and collectively submitted the findings of their own independent investigations into the August 21st chemical attack and other attacks in which the rebels were discovered to be the most likely culprits. PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH THE RECENT SUBMISSION OF INFO ON.CHEMICAL WEAPONS STOCKPILES AND PROGRAMS BY THE ASSAD ADMINISTRATION. Once again, Google is your friend!

America on the other hand hasn't submitted a shred of evidence to the United Nations or to anyone supporting their claim that the Syrian government was behind the August 21st chemical attacks. They have asked us all to have faith in their intelligence. Theirs is faith based intelligence! Note also that they have conveniently overlooked the fact that the "rebels" were caught by Turkish authorities in possession of Sarin gas earlier in the year and that they were singled out earlier in the year also as the most likely culprits behind the Khan Al Asal attack on the 19th of March.

In addition, contrary to.what US secretary of state would have you believe, the UN DID NOT accuse the Syrian.government as the party behind the August 21st chemical attack. We sshould ask ourselves who stands to gain from the blatant use of chemical weapons. Assad or these jihadists? Would Assad be stewpid enough to carry out such an attack on the very same day that UN investigators visit? Would he be so bereft of wisdom and foresight that he would risk everything and carry out such a senseless attack when the US president had clearly stated that such would be a red line??

all4naija, i admire your passion but am sorry to say that your viewpoints are entirely based on sentiments and a misplaced sense of loyalty towards the American ideology.
You cannot possibly alone take on everyone within this forum that has an opposing viewpoint calling them pea brains and other names.They reason those "pea brains" click on the like button is because they are motivated and directed by what they see and hear not what they have been told to believe as the truth. I wonder if there is any common ground we can share. I am a Chelsea FC fan for instance..What are you?

PS: I never said Russia was interfering cos of humanitarian reasons. It was a sarcastic jab at the reasons the United States claims for its numerous interventions and misadventure. Pls read my statement again!

GH PATRIOT:



Question marks should be deferred to the Proponents of Conspiracy Theories, I don't belong to the school 0f thought that blames outside sources for domestic problems. But hey! What do I know? I guess I would have held a similar view if I was a Nigerian and knew the the dynamics at play. My knowledge about Boko Haram is via the net.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/cia_mind_control_experiments_sex_abuse


Are they psychic or something? well please go to the above link!

GH PATRIOT:

First 0ff! The USA's creation of the Taliban was not given a critical analysis by the state department.
During the cold war, both USSR and USA were involved in proxy wars. The taliban received funding, training and military materials because they had a common aim of dislodging USSR's influence in the region vis-a-vis USSR's invasion of Afghanistan.
After eight massive casualty years the USSR exited afghanistan, with their tail in between their legs.
To cut a long story short, the Taliban then felt they had arrived and could do what they did to USSR to USA, forgeting that you don't bite the hand that feeds you, and that it takes a super power to defeat a super power they are still learning the Hard Way through Drone Attacks!
So my sister, Boko Haram is a domestic(Nigeria) problem which the USA should not take the fall for.

sangresan: I am just reading up on past comments...It is now clear that a retard has been let loose on this thread...Half-education is a bad thing......How can a sensible man come out in 2013 to justify the use of Atomic bombs during the World War 11?....The War was practically over by that time...I REPEAT ,'THE WAR WAS PRACTICALLY OVER AT THE TIME THAT THE TWO BOMBS WERE DROPPED ON JAPAN'....The retard is even saying that Japan defeated Russia....How could that be?...Even mighty Hitler with over 10,000 armoured tanks and his wonderful U-boats on the Eastern Flank couldnt defeat Russia not to talk of Japan....We arent even here to discuss the World War but McCain's stupid letter to Pravda....