proO1:

Thank you very much. Some of these bumpkins really make me sick. They purport to be Christians/Muslims and readily quote verses in the Bible/Qur'an when it suits them, yet they still rant against something that should.be considered a truism based on the scriptures of the religious faith they profess.

Every religion emphasises the inevitability of God's will. Indeed, every religion recognises that God gives and God takes. Death comes when it will, because that is how God ordained it to be. No amount of regulation can prevent human error or accidents from happening.. That is exactly what Stella Oduah meant.

Even the supposedly "unsinkable" Titanic sank. That pretty much explains everything - from a philosophical perspective.

sandee575:

That is the essence of CRM, Crew Resource Management. Crew are trained to recognize incapacitation. The Captain could also be disorientated. As a good FO, you tell your Capt that you "have controls". A good Capt will acknowledge "You have controls" The FO becomes the pilot flying until the termination of the flight or the Capt returns to normalcy.
The examples given above prompted the industry to give relevant training to lower this AUTHORITY GRADIENT which renders an FO a mere
onlooker in the cockpit. He must be ASSERTIVE in the interest of ALL.

manny4life:

Thank you... Flying for fun now, it won't be long till I seat on the left hand side.

manny4life:


I totally agree with you that CRM is important but coming from pilot who make cockpit errors like the Colgan pilot who was correcting stall wrongly, you see it's all theories. Some pilots are very clueless, and not assertive as you would think..

sandee575:

Is manny4life a pilot??
Or a google expert

picoba:
The pilot sound to be an half bake pilot. Education system in Nigeria!
I guess the pilot had is training here in Nigeria.

Promhize: Guess stella odua was right after all
Yakubu abdulraman, that says it all.

You guys are misunderstanding stella odua. What she meant was that, the plane crash wasn't due to an error by her ministry or the agency i.e everything was in right order, just the way it is in successful flights.

ba7man: Enforcing safe practices in Aviation is far more important than analyzing a Black Box in Nigeria.

If there are no Plane crashes, there won't be Black box analysis. Why walk through Refurbished Airports to board rickety, unsafe Planes??

ndu_chucks:

I think we all agree that not engaging the flap in of itself is not enough to cause a crash, all other things being equal. We are told that the crew decided not to use the flap during takeoff. It seems to me as if the real cause of the crash is the following as noted in the AIB report:

“Approximately three seconds after ‘power is set’ call, the First Officer noted that the aircraft was moving slowly."

I submit that the aircraft was moving slowly and could not attain enough lift for successful takeoff. Additionally, the condition of the aircraft made abortion impossible. The responsible parties in my mind, are those responsible for air safety.

If you can show us that this aircraft would have successfully taken of if the pilot had used the flap, then I'm all ears.

BTW: The protocol you posted up there is applicable when flap is used. Using flap for takeoff is not mandatory in this case, else AIB would have screamed pilot irresponsibility right away!

manny4life:

I actually have my license to fly...

I am not a Google expert, heck if I had money, I want to complete all my ratings and be ready to go commercial.

joe_ekuns:


Actually i disagree with you....God knows and allows it to happen does not mean it's his will, because in the holy book he told us that his thoughts towards us are of good (in the case of job). So if God wanted to kill one man and his children are there he would devise another means.

stantob:


Stella: Wow it is 30th of Sept, That my Spanish bobo is arriving later to night.

Charity: Ah you mean, you're inviting that little boy ?

Stella : You call him a little boy,

Charity : Ah, that boy is only 19 years.

Stella : That boy is making my day for me during this independence celebration.

Charity : Hmmm, that means, for one week, the bobo will be all over you ?

Stella : I need to refresh myself with fresh blood

Charity : Don't forget you're the Air Minister, you need to monitor events strictly during this holiday.

Stella : I can't believe you are saying this, for this our country, I'm in charge, who get mouth

Third of October Stella phone rings grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm

Stella sluggishly picks up the call,

Madam, the air craft conveying the body of the late Ondo state governor just crashed

Stella angrily drops the phones and shout: " what a stupid idiot, cutting short my enjoyment just to report about a crash, this boy must be stupid.

Stella contemplates: What do I tell this people now, what what what , okay

Stella in summary : CRASH IS AN ACT OF GOD.

baybiemee: And a heartless fellow said it was an act of God

thorpido: I have always wondered if the planes don't give signs of technical problem and this goes to show that indeed there are signs but people just choose to ignore those signs.

The captain must have been a man who trusted in his experience/ability.
We need the guidance of God in our lives and may we hear the voice of the Spirit when He cautions us.

ITbomb: It was not an Act of God neither was it due to the age of the aircraft .
Even 20 yrs aircraft is still very safe .
This was mere negligence.
I believe the pilot wanted to avoid the blame of why didn't u check the plane before we came

Orlando Owoh: It is only a fool, like those that have already, that will believe this lie. Ask yourself, how come the pilot and those in the cockpit were arguing over the air worthiness of the plane without the passengers noticing? Is the cockpit that enclosed that the passengers in the front role could not hear the "argument?"