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Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 8:36am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: You are living in a world of delusions. So, yahweh created people out of their wish, gave them freewill to choose what they want but will punish them for exercising the freewill he gave them. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 8:53am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: Punishment is the reward for choosing evil over good. Every man will be paid according to his works! Yahweh wishes every man life eternal, but for free will to be valid, every man MUST make his own choice.... I know it's hard for a stiff-necked heathen like you to come to repentance ![]() |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:01am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: I will keep asking since u refused to answer. Why punish people for choosing evil when you gave them the ability to choose evil? Why give them the ability at all? Why create them when you knew they will end up choosing evil. God knew I'd one day become an atheist n go to hell, yet he went ahead to create me. Now its me that will go to hell. Infact, God should go to hell for such an evil act. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:05am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: Isaiah 45:9 King James Version (KJV) Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands? Isaiah 29:16 King James Version (KJV) Surely you have things turned around! Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay; For shall the thing made say of him who made it, “He did not make me”? Or shall the thing formed say of him who formed it,“He has no understanding”? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:08am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: Hahahaha, the question again. Why give us the ability to strive with him and then punish us for striving with him. Bro, you can't run from that question. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:18am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: I ain't running from the question. The thing is, Yahweh doesn't want you to be his robot...which is why you have the ability to strive with him! And because he loves you so much, he is begging you to choose good and live....he gave you a test and also an expo ![]() Amos 5:14 King James Version (KJV) Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 9:32am On Oct 19, 2013 |
1) nwuyag 2) 3) Alfa Seltzer 4) frank3.16 5) 9jadelta The above roll call are the prominent inquiring mind(s) actively seeking answer(s) and feedback(s) nwuyag's straightforward question "Doesnt God Not Know Those Already Going To Hell?" was given a straightforward answer - Yes God does know To stop the OP turning into an unduly vexed question, please, those in the above roll call, should list their past and present working/professional backgrounds or academics if still studying, after which to watch this space |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:35am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: Only that the expos are hopelessly contradictory. Here is the question again. If God has decided not to make us robots, why punish us for not living like robots. You keep going in circles without answering the question. 2 Likes |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 9:49am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: Nothing bad in punishing you, because punishment is the reward for doing evil. He is a God of recompenses ![]() ![]() |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:00am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: I think the fact that you can't answer the question is obvious to anyone. You keep going in circles. Punishing me for doing evil is not righteous judgement because he gave the the ability to do evil. Had he not given me, I wouldn't have done evil. The question again. Why punish people for exercising the ability he gave them? Why give people the ability to chose evil and then punish them for choosing it? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:02am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind:the bolded part is exactly what baffles me |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:08am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: You are the one twisting the whole thing and going in circles ![]() ![]() |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:33am On Oct 19, 2013 |
doubleDx: I'm being paid back with what I did. Good. Who gave me the ability to do what I did? Why shouldn't he suffer the same punishment as ill suffer. Not when he even knows I'll do what I did n went ahead to create me. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:35am On Oct 19, 2013 |
9jadelta: the bolded part is exactly what baffles me That's the one million dollar question no one has been able to answer. You can see as doubleDx hopelessly tries to answer. 1 Like |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 10:51am On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: @^^^ https://www.nairaland.com/1478133/doesnt-god-not-know-those#18901044 https://www.nairaland.com/1478133/doesnt-god-not-know-those/1#18931509 |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 10:54am On Oct 19, 2013 |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Image123(m): 1:16pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
@OP Your title is grammar flawed, i think i understand your question though. Answer- No. Happier now? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 1:23pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Image123: @Image123 He fat fingere'd I think it is "Does - "Does" as opposed to "Doesn't" OR "Doesnt God |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Image123(m): 1:33pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Kabieosi: lol @ fat fingered. Thanks for the correction. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 1:37pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Image123: @OP How do we reconcile the concept of ominiscience with your answer? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: @rationalmind Why would omniscience conflict with Image123's answer? ![]() ![]() ![]() Are you expecting God to be bogged down with hindrances because He is omniscient? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 1:52pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Image123(m): 2:14pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: What exactly is the concept of omniscience(your concept and the Bible's concept). How do we reconcile omniscience with free will? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 2:40pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind:good point here, I never even thought about that. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by davidhume1: 2:40pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
And in the evening he cometh with the twelve. 18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me. 19 And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I? 20 And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish. 21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born. First Jesus knew who will betray him. Then he wishes the person was never born. But he NEEDS this guy to betray him, so he lets it slide. THAT'S JUST LOW!!! 1 Like |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 2:47pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Image123: @OPtnx for the correction.. I ve changed it. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 2:49pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Image123:I think freewill there is just an illusion since the omniscient one is the creator of freewill. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 2:50pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
rationalmind: nwuyag: @nwuyag rationalmind will lull you into a false sense of security if you along with him subscribe to making out punishment to be same as consequence Please reply to https://www.nairaland.com/1478133/doesnt-god-not-know-those/1#18931509 # you haven't changed it yet ooo - "tnx for the correction.. I ve changed it." - nwuyag |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 2:55pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
I ve actually wondered if apologists have considered this. Sometimes, I feel its more okay if they said that God is not omniscient instead of complicating issues. It sometimes seems to me that whoever wrote the bible just wanted to attribute all mighty powers as in a super hero movie and removed any possible weakpoint not knowing that he/she was contradicting himself. 2 Likes |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Nobody: 3:05pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
Kabieosi:twaz a mixup. did you get my point correctly? I think rationalmind got it well. What's the diference between purnishment and consequence and how does it affect my question? |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Image123(m): 3:08pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
nwuyag: nwuyag: I ve actually wondered if apologists have considered this. Sometimes, I feel its more okay if they said that God is not omniscient instead of complicating issues. It sometimes seems to me that whoever wrote the bible just wanted to attribute all mighty powers as in a super hero movie and removed any possible weakpoint not knowing that he/she was contradicting himself. You're being unfair to God if i may so say. What is your concept of omniscience and what is the Bible's concept. |
Re: Doesnt God Know Those Already Going To Hell? by Kabieosi: 3:17pm On Oct 19, 2013 |
nwuyag: @nwuyag You and others are putting the cart before the horse hence the nursing grudges you have with God I'll know how to answer back the above and the other ones properly once you reply to https://www.nairaland.com/1478133/doesnt-god-not-know-those/1#18931509 |
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