haibe:

100%

Sex is actually marriage, it is what binds a man and woman together before God's sight and that is why whenever there is an act of pre-marital sex in the OT, both couples are bound to be husband and wife or else they will be in danger of sin.

[b]Sex is that covenant that binds a man and woman[b], not court or church wedding, all these are man made but of course are necessary after both couples have grown the intention to be one.

I know most people will not understand this but its the truth.

Pre-marital sex(before formal marriage) is 'not necessarily' fornication, it can be fornication when it becomes illicit with intentions to just be wayward.

God approves of a union btw a man and a woman the moment they intend to be one as long as its according to his plan.

rudedough:

Stop living in self denial. Jesus himself said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." (Matthew 5:17)

Always remember that. God enjoys ra.pe and Jesus the son is not any better. Like father like son.

a4.hafoe:
fornication and adultery are both prohibited in islam...infact it's regarded as the second greatest sin after murder and shrik(polytheism )...zina is the islamic word for fornication and adultery... Punishment of zina in the hereafter
The punishment of those who die without repenting
from zina begins in their grave. In a long hadith, Allah’s
Messenger (s.a.w) related a dream in which he saw two
men accompanying him (Jibreel and Maalik), showing him
how a number of sinners were being punished in al-
Barzakh (life between death and Judgement day). The
Prophet (s.a.w) said: “…We proceeded until we came across
a hole in the ground that resembled a baking pit, narrow at
the top and wide at the bottom. Babbling and voices were
issuing from it. We looked in and saw naked men and
women. Underneath the pit was a raging fire; whenever it
flared up, the men and women screamed and rose with it
until they almost fell out of the pit. As it subsided, they
returned (to the bottom). I said: ‘Who are these?’ They
said: ‘…As for the naked men and women who were in the
pit, they are men and women who indulge in zina …”(12) In
a similar narration Allah’s Messenger (s.a.w) said: “We
moved on until I saw people who were awfully swollen, and
had the most foul stench, their stench was like that of the
sewers. I asked: ‘Who are these?’ They replied: ‘Those are
the male and female adulterers.’”(13) As for punishment in
the hereafter, Allah Most High says: “And they (i.e. the
servants of Allah) do not commit zina - And whoever does
this shall meet a full penalty. The torment will be doubled
to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein
in disgrace.” (14)....please don't fornicate ooo na beg i dy beg u oo....

zeelo2014:

Sex is marriage? Incredible!!
I thank God sane people are now making their views on this thread now. so pre-marital sex is now justified? Some pentecostal churches have bastardized Christianity.

haibe:

100%

Sex is actually marriage, it is what binds a man and woman together before God's sight and that is why whenever there is an act of pre-marital sex in the OT, both couples are bound to be husband and wife or else they will be in danger of sin.

Sex is that covenant that binds a man and woman, not court or church wedding, all these are man made but of course are necessary after both couples have grown the intention to be one.

I know most people will not understand this but its the truth.

Pre-marital sex(before formal marriage) is 'not necessarily' fornication, it can be fornication when it becomes illicit with intentions to just be wayward.

God approves of a union btw a man and a woman the moment they intend to be one as long as its according to his plan.

Pastor Olu T: This is the problem with all we want definition for everything, and anything that dont fit or fit into the concept our little mind created is taken or discarded as the case maybe.

Do not be deceived God cant be mocked, for whatever a man sows that he shall reap. If you sow to the flesh, u shall of the flesh reap corruption, and if you sow to the spirit u shall of the spirit reap life everlasting!

Nahum777: So you mean the book of Exodus doesnt count?, you follow only one part of the bible huh? stop fooling around bro The God that i serve doesnt change, or you havnt heard? So the old testament is a waste? Why did God bother writing it?

"For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed." (Malachi 3:6).
where in the bible does it say marrying two wives is a sin? And i repeat, marrying two wives isnt a sin. Nowhere did the bible call it a sin.

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness," (Galatians 5:19). and how does this verse support your claim? The thing is that you dont understand the bible, you follow the world, you dont read the bible on your own. Where did the bible define fornication as premarital sex? That is where you are getting it wrong, you dont know the meaning of fornication in the bible.

haibe:

you can quote verse 18 too so that we can analyse it

That won't be necessary. Just grab yourself a girl child and party away. The Lord has granted you some little "spoils of war".

Enjoy yourself buddy

haibe:

I am not here to argue with anyone but sex is what joins a man and woman, not court marriage or marriage by a priest.

Note I didn't say sex is a marriage ceremony, lol, sex is marriage(the joining of a man and woman to become one)

Forget those marriage ceremonies, it doesn't determine whether you are married or not

yomifowe:

Bros abeg, which bible u dey read, and who be your Pastor. Although, you said the right thing that sex is the actual marriage. That is true. However, that marriage (sex) must take place after the priest must have pronounced the couple man and wife.

In Genesis, God pronounced them man and wife (Gen 2:24) before they slept together. So every other thing you said are heresies.

Ishilove:
Toh. So if a couple believe in their heart of hearts that they are meant for each other and make arrangements towards it, while fuccking to their hearts contents while they are it( scuse my french). Then something happens, circumstances change, and they break up. Is that how they will keep sharing bodies round until they finally meet the ONE who is God's will for them in marriage?

boko are rams: pls answer this question sincerly,remember u are xtian so dont lie, have u fornicated before? And are u a virgin? U can ignore if it is too difficult for u to answer

InesQor: The main problem with most people is that once they hear "Pre-marital sex is not fornication" they think it means "Go around having sex like a wild animal on heat, God doesn't mind", and some go ahead to do that. That's why they are told "IT IS A SIN" so that their hands can be held like children and they can be guided in the simplest way possible.

Just like some folks have to tell some people that "mastur'bation is a sin" because if you don't, they will grow wanton until they begin to idolize it from overly frequent abuse of the act. Or like you have to tell some people that drinking alcoholic beverages is a sin. Because they have no self control!!

Nuances, nuances. I will keep telling how nuances and subtlety of meaning are entirely lost in this modern age and especially in religions.

Eminado01:
No one laid any rule down!
Go out to the street, if you see a lady with big behind, turn back and admire the yansh and walk away, no one will imprison you
Feel free to do whatever you please with your babe, with mutual consent of course, no bible have any right over your intimacy

#society does it, so should you

Nahum777: common go and sit down, u put emotions on everything, how does that verse say premarital sex is a sin? tell me where the bible says premarital sex is a sin?. define fornication with the bible and not your own opinion.

exodus 22 vs 17 16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins..

fornication isn't premarital sex. fornication is when you dont marry who you sleep with.

Bidam: Actually in matters like these it is good to be a babe and thread the side of caution.The Holy Spirit defines what sin is in the heart of believers. Be that as it may you shouldn't use this knowledge to cause others to stumble.Be a wise serpent and a harmless dove. I can eat food sacrifice to idols but if it will cause a brother to stumble and for conscience sake, should i go ahead and do that?

chuksemejulu: Pre-marital sex is bad,it kills

Eminado01:
No one laid any rule down!
Go out to the street, if you see a lady with big behind, turn back and admire the yansh and walk away, no one will imprison you
Feel free to do whatever you please with your babe, with mutual consent of course, no bible have any right over your intimacy

#society does it, so should you

InesQor:
Na wa oh!

The diaspora that James wrote to in James 1:1 were the scattered Israelites after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.

Job, Melchizedek, Jethro, Rahab, Ruth and others were definitely not a part of the diaspora. They had died long before Jesus was even born.

Bros how you dey take interpret the Biblical timeline so?

sorry my battery was low, i didnt understand your question http://www.donmeh-west.com/Job.shtml

Nahum777: sorry my battery was low, i didnt understand your question http://www.donmeh-west.com/Job.shtml

Eminado01: Define sin, I beg of you.


#not from the biblical point of view please