dlox01:
For crying out loud Jayz n 50 cents can pull a larger crowd but does that make them real

U wish.

larger crowd ke?

Abegi. . .they dont even come close.

So tell us donnie, whats the largest crowd Chris has ever pulled? Dont tell me 3.2million cos I know exactly how they arrive at such bogus figures

So tell us donnie, whats the largest crowd Chris has ever pulled? And don't tell me a 3.2million cos I know how they arrive at such bogus figures.

donnie:

U wish.

larger crowd ke?

Abegi. . .they dont even come close.

im sure u dont know what ur saying, even at 3.2 million bogus figure u called, Jay Z n 50 concert would kick it hands down in this country if its free.what is 3.2 million when these guys sell 10mill copies at 10 dollars each (no be free o)if it was like oyakhilome's rapsody leaflets where u put anything u have 'a big lie', 50 cents n jay would have done 1 billion copies sef. We are talking big promos here not sending girls or curled hair boys to do door to door marketing o!it will shock u dat 80% of love world peeps bump jay n 50 in private.make u dey there make dem dey decieve u,

sorry guys for pumping into your discussion.i'm a new member of this forum and all i need to know now is if dli exam results are out and if they are still sending it.pls all information on this will be highly appreciated.thanks

dlox01:


im sure u dont know what ur saying, even at 3.2 million bogus figure u called, Jay Z n 50 concert would kick it hands down in this country if its free.what is 3.2 million when these guys sell 10mill copies at 10 dollars each (no be free o)if it was like oyakhilome's rapsody leaflets where u put anything u have 'a big lie',  50 cents n jay would have done 1 billion copies sef. We are talking big promos here not sending girls or curled hair boys to do door to door marketing o!it will shock u dat 80% of love world peeps bump jay n 50 in private.make u dey there make dem dey decieve u,  

Point of correction 3.5 million coservative estimate and i know what i am talking about. Don't decieve urself. Free or not, Naija or yankee, makes no difference, they will never meet up (except maybe after the rapture, then they can dance all they want as they prepare for hell while those who believe but were left behind, go underground, hiding). I know what i am saying. I can almost guess you havent been to a pastor Chris crusade before.

Jesus still pulls the largets crowds in the world today.

Decieve me? huh. Like i love such music. That's music for dead men. No life in it.

@donnie,
Talking about conservative estimates, a report from CE on one of its crusades held in the national stadium some years back said there were over 2million people in attendance. Can you please explain this blatant lie?

@donnie,
Talking about conservative estimates, a report from CE on one of its crusades held in the national stadium some years back said there were over 2million people in attendance. Can you please explain this blatant lie?

Incidentally the National stadium has a sitting capacity of less than 50,000. I don't know what the staning capacity is though.

KunleOshob:

Incidentally the National stadium has a sitting capacity of less than 50,000. I don't know what the staning capacity is though.

The sitting capacity is about 55,000 people. If we decide to put both the standing and field capacity at nearly twice the sitting capacity, we have about 100,000 people both standing and on the fields. Now if twice that whole number is at the overflow, we have about 300,000 people outside the stadium (ridiculous though).

Now lets do the maths: 55,000+100,000+300,000=455,000

Less than half a million!

The Bible states clearly that we should not judge, or who will judge us on the last day. This thread is all about destroying a man of God for the sake of evil. Pastor Chris is not what you are making him out to be. Neither is the man he met for impartation, Prophet T.B. Joshua, whether you like it or not. Leave these men alone, as the Bible states. If they are not of God, they will soon fail; if they are of God, you will soon find that you are lying, blaspheming, condemning God Himself.

I went to visit TB Joshua a few months ago, amazed at the miracles, deliverances and responses to salvation I have seen coming out of the church. I stayed for 3 weeks, with the intention of staying as a disciple. It was my dream. I had received several certificates of ministry, discipleship and post graduate degrees in church ministry. I was even ordained in Southern California with an American university as an ordained minister of the Gospel. But the teaching and preaching I encountered at The Synagogue Church far surpassed anything my professors and guest ministers ever taught. The level of understanding and discernment of the Scriptures was mindblowing. Scriptures I had studied for years, thought over, debated, researched, were made stunningly clear with a simple word. Astounding!

Like I said, I stayed for 3 weeks, following the man of God's teachings and moving with his disciples. I have to say - this is one first class group of people. I was completely unable to keep up with their study, their lifestyle, their degree of commitment to the ministry. 24 hours a day, they attend to the sick, they preach, they teach, they pray for the sick. Even following many American ministers on crusade, I haven't seen this level of prayer services and sheer numbers of sick coming for prayer. And the disciples kept up with every one. It got to a point that my weakness revealed itself as surpassingly greater than my strength and I realized that the class of people I was living with, as a PhD holder and ordained minister myself, were beyond me spiritually and physically. I met the pastor, thanked him for his kindness, care, and commitment to the ministry and packed myself back to my house.

What I am saying is this, firsthand I have seen the work of God, the power of God and the anointing of God working in the ministry of Prophet TB Joshua to bring healing, deliverance, salvation, wisdom and understanding to a generation of people without faith and hope. I have been impacted by the messages and the deliverance. I have seen my shortcomings and received prayer from the pastor, believing that God is now helping me to overcome my weaknesses. I have left challenged and changed in my spirit, soul and body. And I have a message for everyone with ears to hear:
This man is from God. His message is true. Touch not God's anointed and do His prophets no harm.

afi763

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A LYING WONDER?

IN AFRICAN ITS IS VERY COMMON.
YOU CAN WALK ON BOTTLES AND NOT BE CUT
YOU CAN BE SHOT AND THE BULLET BOUNCES OFF
YOU CAN USE A MATCHETEE ON YOU BODY AND THERE WILL BE NO VISIBLE MARK
YOU CAN STAND IN THE MIDST OF FIRE AND NOT GET BURNT

THSE ARE JUST VERY SIMPLY LYINH WONDERS IN NIGERIA.

MIRACLES AND SPECTACLES DO NOT QUALIFY YOU AS A MAN OF GOD

TB JOSHUA IS NOT OF GOD

AS THE MAGICIANS IN THE DAYS OF PHAROAH WERE NOT OF GOD.

AM SURE THE TEACHING THEY GAVE YOU DID NOT SAY THEAT THE BIBLE SAID

IF ITS POSSIBLE EVEN THE VERY ELECT WILL BE DECIEVED

afi768:

I went to visit TB Joshua a few months ago, amazed at the miracles, deliverances and responses to salvation I have seen coming out of the church. I stayed for 3 weeks, with the intention of staying as a disciple.

I started going to the Cenimagoogle(synagogue) since 2000, and I was made to see so many miracles the way they wanted me to see it.

You went like any other person, Please, do the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob a big favor, when next you want to go there, look around you, you must see physically challenged people around you, Pls take one along for healing then you will understand what the film show is all about.

Or how will you explain this, More than 500physically challenged people with TBJ, instead of healing and prophecies, for at least one, it was wheel chairs and money that was given out.

The word of God is against false prophets:

Jerimaih 23:28-32
The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.
Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the LORD, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD.

SirJohn:

The sitting capacity is about 55,000 people. If we decide to put both the standing and field capacity at nearly twice the sitting capacity, we have about 100,000 people both standing and on the fields. Now if twice that whole number is at the overflow, we have about 300,000 people outside the stadium (ridiculous though).

Now lets do the maths: 55,000+100,000+300,000=455,000

Less than half a million!

Donnie, dont turn a blind eye on this one. Prove my analysis wrong

Turn blind eye? I actually saw this reply yesterday but didnt have time to reply as i got much work on my table.

The crusade i suppose you are refering to is the Night of bliss held in 2002 at the national stadium Lagos.
That was the last crusade we ever had there b/c it was obvious, that the stadium couldnt contain the crowds. The crowds outside far exceeded the one in the mainbowl.

It's like lying is your hubby. There was never any such estimate coming from CEC for that crusade. The estimate given for the attendance at that meeting was 500,000 and not 2,000,000. This is another lie coming from Sir John. I am not surprised anyway.

It was after that crusade that we started counting in millions.

As a matter of fact the crowds began to increase geometrically from 2001 when great persecution arose against Christ Embassy from other churches and groups.

In Benin, 1.5 million people attended under torrential downpour of rain. There were miracles everwhere. Several grounds were filled with people who came to witness the power of God.

After that, the city of Port-harcourt literally came to a stand-still as 2.5 million people gathered for the night of bliss with pastor Chris. For this one, the main bowl of the  stadium was right behind the stage as it served as one of the many overflows which included the yards and rooftops around the area. You would have to walk a long distance from where the crowds began to even site where the stage was.  I was an usher in that program and i witnessed how the main bowl was filled up minutes after the gates were swung open. You could not hold back the crowds. I saw a lady faint right before my eyes. I did not recognize my neat suit the following morning as the press was almost overwhelming but for the angels of God at work helping with crowd control. If you climbed to look, all you would see was a sea of heads.

The miracles were mid-blowing. Wheel chairs & clutches flew in the air as those they once carried were healed. The Spirit moved over the whole area. A lady who came to church on the sunday thanksgiving in PH  testified of how she participated from her house  around the area(she was not a member of CEC) and got healed of her sickness.

Pastor Chris told the congregation that the annointing they had recieved that night was even on their clothes and that they should take their clothes to the sick and to where the power of God was needed when they leave there. Of course the miracles followed. A friend of mine laid his shirt on a sick relative who fell under the power and got up healed. A woman testified later in church of how she put her dress under her husbands bed before he got back. Her husband was not born-again and she wanted him saved. The man laid down to sleep and woke up in the middle of the night talking in tongues!

I dont need to say much about the Good Friday Miracle Night in lagos in 2006 because most of you already know what happened. Over 3.5 million in attendance. That area had never seen such a crowd.

Now CEC can no longer hold such meetings anywhere. Where will you advice us to use?

These days, its church pastors and campus pastors that are asked to use the stadiums. I recall recently, in Benin, Only pastor Joy's church(apart from the other hundreds of satelite churches we have in Benin) held a program at the stadium and the crowds came. My friend told me about how during the meeting, she came down from the stage and walked up to a lady who has had a stiff neck for long and could not turn her neck. God told me that He has healed you she told the woman after the woman had said what her problem was. Turn your neck now she asked the lady. The lady turned her whole body instead. No the pastor said, you are healed, turn your neck now. the lady turned her whole body again. God told me up there that he has healed you but just to confirm it i will lay my hands on you. She laid her hands on her and the lady goes under the power. Bring her back she asks and then lays hands on her and agian she goes under the power. Turn your neck now she commands and woosh, the lady swings her neck as though nothing ever happened to it. The whole stadium went agog with shouting and jubilation as they celebrated the power of God. The power of the Holyghost is everywhere working with his chosen.

The same way we are conquering on land, we are also conquering the airwaves. We hold online meetings where crowds gather in different locations participating at the same time all over the world. We are on major satelites around the world. Amazing grace!! Pastor Chris does not even need to fly around. He just stays at a point and talks to the world. Christ Embassy Carry go! The world is yours!

Over to you critics. . .

donnie:



It was after that crusade that we started counting in millions.

Wow business must be really booming

donnie:

My friend told me about how during the meeting, she came down from the stage and walked up to a lady who has had a stiff neck for long and could not turn her neck. God told me that He has healed you she told the woman after the woman had said what her problem was. Turn your neck now she asked the lady. The lady turned her whole body instead. No the pastor said, you are healed, turn your neck now. the lady turned her whole body again. God told me up there that he has healed you but just to confirm it i will lay my hands on you. She laid her hands on her and the lady goes under the power. Bring her back she asks and then lays hands on her and agian she goes under the power. Turn your neck now she commands and woosh, the lady swings her neck as though nothing ever happened to it. The whole stadium went agog with shouting and jubilation as they celebrated the power of God. The power of the Holyghost is everywhere working with his chosen.

All of a sudden, a miracle takes place and donnie is not there to witness it himself; what a shame
All you guys do is play with numbers, listen to yourself, 2.5m, 3.5m
Tell that to the marines!

and before their very eyes, the glory of the latter house continues to surpass the former (as the critics chose to live in the former)

U aint seen nothing yet!

The miracles were mid-blowing. Wheel chairs & clutches flew in the air as those they once carried were healed.

While some people got "healed" some others obviously got injured from the decending wheel chairs and crutches.

lol ttalks

You area perfect example of a stickler to ''the cup is half empty''

They always pick on the negative aspect, however subjective

fyneguy:

lol ttalks

You area perfect example of a stickler to ''the cup is half empty''

They always pick on the negative aspect, however subjective

ttalks:

While some people got "healed" some others obviously got injured from the decending wheel chairs and crutches.

Actually, i thought that was funny (lol)

fyneguy:

and before their very eyes, the glory of the latter house continues to surpass the former (as the critics chose to live in the former)

U aint seen nothing yet!

@fyneguy @Donnie
lol. I dont think its the miracles, whether real or fake thats the issue with guys here. ITS THE WAY YOU TALK!!!

the more you keep saying it, the more they want to shut you up.

trully trully, they aint seen nothing yet!
our story has been told, we won all the time.
ours is the story of God's superlative grace.
predestination is at work in us.
His ability is at work in us!
look out world, we are on our way!!!

goldenterp:


@fyneguy @Donnie
lol. I dont think its the miracles, whether real or fake thats the issue with guys here. ITS THE WAY YOU TALK!!!

the more you keep saying it, the more they want to shut you up.

trully trully, they aint seen nothing yet!
our story has been told, we won all the time.
ours is the story of God's superlative grace.
predestination is at work in us.
His ability is at work in us!
look out world, we are on our way!!!

the way you also stated the above is even more nauseating. Are we meant to be looking out for a bunch of deluded freaks who have sold themselves to oyaks?

KunleOshob:

the way you also stated the above is even more nauseating. Are we meant to be looking out for a bunch of deluded freaks who have sold themselves to oyaks?

@Kunlerry
Ma men, it's totally up to ya what you 'look out for'

goldenterp

Pls say that again in a way he can comprehend

You cant speak to this fella as unto spiritual

My driver will often say: "thank God for death"
How true, we are all mortals (even those who claim to be gods) and one day surely, we will all die and stand before The Most High. And there the deep secrets behind white apparels will be made bare.
The sad thing is while we wait for either death or the end of the times, millions are led astray.
Lord have mercy!

@fyneguy

What is "as unto spiritual"

Mr Chris life style is screaming Carnality of the highest order. If an angel came to tell me that Pastor Chris is a true man of God I would not agree. What makes us spiritual?

The word
bible says he has set his word above all.

Every deed thoughts gesture would be judge by the word in the spirit of love and you know the God is love.

But yet he hateth sin and the bible says he is angry with the sinner day and night.

So if we bring the Message of an angry God and also bring the message of a loving God, have we erred?

Backslider:

@fyneguy

What is "as unto spiritual"

Mr Chris life style is screaming Carnality of the highest order. If an angel came to tell me that Pastor Chris is a true man of God I would not agree. What makes us spiritual?

The word
bible says he has set his word above all.

Every deed thoughts gesture would be judge by the word in the spirit of love and you know the God is love.

But yet he hateth sin and the bible says he is angry with the sinner day and night.

So if we bring the Message of an angry God and also bring the message of a loving God, have we erred?

Yes Mr Backslider, you have erred and one shouldn't expect less from a backslider. May God bring you back to the fold, if you were ever there before

God is never angry with those of us in ZION God can not be angry with whom He declared His righteousness!(we didnt earn it by works- it's a gift )
Again, that may be too big for a carnal mind like you to handle. May be you would now understand why WE cant speak to you as unto SPIRITUAL 

@fyneguy

Thank God you said those of us in Zion. I just hope you will answer me

Define Zion?
what does Zion represent?

look at you throwing the doctrine of faith.

Are you telling me that as a christian there is no "work"

Broda, learn to go for the spirit of the word for the letter killeth but the spirit gives life.

donnie:

Broda, learn to go for the spirit of the word for the letter killeth but the spirit gives life.

You obviously have no clue what 2 Corinthians 3:6 is talking about.
Read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3 to get what verse 6 is really communicating.

It certainly is not promoting the stuff u portrayed above.

Spirit of the word indeed,