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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:11pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
XKZ: Simple!!!! That vasectomy is even better. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
pickabeau1: ok... Roe vs. Wade? You think this was started by the feminist movement, eh? Prior to Roe vs Wade abortion was outright illegal in every state, but two ( New York, and some other state, I forget). Roe sought only to reform the Abortion laws at first, but didn't settle until it was repealed. She based her arguments on medical health, and her right to privacy. Roe constantly reasoned from the stance of medical science, and the nation's doctors who'd come to view the illegal "black market" abortions nationwide as a public health risk in need of urgent address ended up coming to support it. Public health activists and doctors played an important role, and at first neither women nor fetuses featured prominently in Roe vs. Wade as the medical standpoint was discussed. It wasn't until much later that women's groups addressed the subject of my earlier posts, and introduced the angle of their right to control their own bodies and lives; to have their voices and decisions treated with respect; and to participate as equals in private and public life. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:13pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Sophyrocks: Better? How? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 9:15pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
cococandy: Even though I'm pro choice,I do not think abortion is something that should be seen as common place and neither should a man proffer it as a solution to a lady he impregnated if that's not what she wants. According to planned parenthood... you have nothing to fear How Safe Are In-Clinic Abortion Procedures? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 9:16pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
datalossvictim1: so you mean a woman doesn't know she should take care of the debris after the deed has been done? that precaution wasn't mentioned doesn't stop a woman from using morning after pills - that's just irresponsibility on her part.
the baby doesn't appear immediately after sex, does it? there are about 9 months to decide what to do. at this point, the man's control is non-existent. only the woman can control what happens at this point so if she carries the baby to term then it's premeditated. it's not an accident!
hahahaha..... i am certain you have never seen abandoned newborns dumped in nigeria. surely, this method is better than just taking morning after pills immediately after the deed was done, isn't it? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:19pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
pro01:Lol. I dey see o. If no be say I been get plans and love for my woman, na partnership tins we for dey do. Most of the women on here are only overly emotional. How's your side? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Godson201333(m): 9:19pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Nothing can work out fine in Nigeria,Bt abroad yes,Your greatest mistake is impregnating a lady that ya not gonna marry...I swear ya gonna pay child support for the rest of your fucking life.. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 9:21pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Yet she later tried to overturn it I will give u wiki links as this discussion is becominh hydra headed She was supported by female activists? They used her and dumped her She was a means to an end She regrets her role in this matter In 1969, at the age of 21, while working low-paying jobs and living with her father, McCorvey became pregnant a third time. She returned to Dallas, where friends advised her to assert falsely that she had been raped, as she would then be eligible to obtain a legal abortion (with the understanding that Texas's pro-life laws allowed abortion in the cases of rape and incest). Due to lack of police evidence or documentation, the scheme was not successful and McCorvey would later admit the situation was a fabrication.[11][12] She attempted to obtain an illegal abortion, but the respective clinics had been closed down by authorities. Norma_McCorvey on wikipedia (Roe) EnlightenedSoul: |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
coogar: Your views on abortion are different to mine. I respect that murderer ![]() |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:21pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
BABE!: Oooohhhhhhhh. You see yourself ![]() |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:22pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Sophyrocks: I asked you a simple question. Why you so hyper? How's vasectomy better than abortion? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
coogar:You dey mind hypocrites? They can fvck freely but not abort. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by cococandy(f): 9:26pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
pickabeau1:I'm even more about the emotional aspect of it. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by ablyguy(m): 9:26pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 9:29pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
datalossvictim1: and the next step is to force parenthood on the man that has made it known he's not ready for a baby? ![]() ![]() ![]() amazing use of logic you got there..... fresh_dude: You dey mind hypocrites? They can fvck freely but not abort. you didn't get the memo? fücking indiscriminately is a pardonable sin in heaven but taking pills to flush the debris isn't. ![]() |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 9:29pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
cococandy: there is nothing to fear According to abortion advocate those clump of cells are just like a small clot of blood ... Nothin to it.. snip snip You say u r prochoice...u should know this ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
BABE!: Where in my comment that i say its better than abortion? Did you see it in my comment? NOOOOOO. Why are you questioning vasectomy if abortion is absolutely nothing to you? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:33pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Sophyrocks: Let me make this easier for you; Is vasectomy better than abortion? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:34pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
pickabeau1: Yet she later tried to overturn it Yes, but that is beside the point. The fact is, it wasn't a feminist movement to begin with, and when the feminists came around they were concerned with rights. The suitable period of abortion was discussed at the medical level, and was decreed to occur within the first trimester. There was no feminist opinion on whether or not abortion was murder. That argument is a matter of personal opinion, and thats the reason pro-life and pro-choice opinions are so rampant and different, even among feminists. Pro-choice in essence gives you a choice. If one believes abortion is murder, she has the choice and right not to partake in it. If she doesn't, then that is also her choice. It it no way conflicts with being a feminist. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by DSuperWoman(f): 9:36pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
How can u even think of writting such a thing. Wen u were fucking n it was sweeting u, u did not know now u want the lady to get an abortion and stand the risk of death or barreness abi? My dear if a woman decides to keep the baby the man shuld pay for child support period (only a coward will run awAy from his ...) |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by cococandy(f): 9:36pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Funny. Pro choice is not about the dispensability of the foetus. There are good reasons why a woman may want to abort. R@pe Incest Health risks Deformed foetus Etc etc. Pro choice means that for any of these reasons,a woman reserves that right to terminate the pregnancy if she so wishes. You see there just two sides and no inbetween.pro lifers can't say 'I'm pro life but... If any of the above should occur,then the woman may consider termination. That's one foot here and the other foot there. Pro life should mean under no circumstance can abortion be considered. I admit that the pro choice stand is subject to abuse. That's people having abortions just because they can. But then almost everything is subject to abuse. Either ways it's always a huge loss for any woman who's had an abortion. It shouldn't be made light of pickabeau1: 1 Like |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
coogar: It is not about forcing parenthood on anyone. I am simply stating what I think should happen. You disagree, some agree. End of ![]() |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:40pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
cococandy: Not if she didn't want the baby in the first place. It's a relief for many. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by XKZ(m): 9:40pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
BABE!: Why the comparison? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 9:41pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
datalossvictim1: what you think should happen doesn't answer the OP's concern. is it fair for the man to be forced to pay for a child he clearly stated he didn't want? |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 9:41pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
ok... no worries... EnlightenedSoul: |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:42pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
BABE!: Answer that yourself. If you see nothing wrong in abortion, you should see nothing in vasectomy. Arent both done to prevent pregnancies? pffffft. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 9:43pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
My dear.. u r bringing sentiment into this matter According to the prochoicers..The thing is not a person but clumps of blood Go n read up.. medical abortion or abortion of r@pe was not the issue... it was that right to abort at will EnlightenedSoul can school u I wonder why all the sentiment... ![]() ![]() cococandy: Funny. 1 Like |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:43pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
XKZ: Why not the comparison ? Someone brought vasectomy up in their post. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by BABE3: 9:45pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
Sophyrocks: I see absolutely nothing wrong in vasectomy. I asked you the question to see if you'd shoot yourself in the foot by saying vasectomy is better. |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
pickabeau1: ok... no worries... Loll makes sense now, yes? ![]() |
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jul 05, 2014 |
coogar: Re-read my first post. ![]() |
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