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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 10:52pm On Jul 05, 2014
XKZ:

It's a free world isn't it?
You're just trying to put words in my mouth.

nah - it's not a free world for the men.
women have told us no one can control what they do with their bodies regardless of what their partners want and that's fine by me.

by the same token, men should also have total control of what he spends his money on regardless of what his partner wants. women should govern their bodies, men should govern their own wallets.

that to me is equality!
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by XKZ(m): 10:54pm On Jul 05, 2014
coogar:

nah - it's not a free world for the men.
women have told us no one can control what they do with their bodies regardless of what their partners want and that's fine by me.

by the same token, men should also have total control of what he spends his money on regardless of what his partner wants. women should govern their bodies, men should govern their own wallets.

that to me is equality!


Equality is not (always) Justice.
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 10:57pm On Jul 05, 2014
XKZ:

Equality is not (always) Justice.

so feminism isn't about equality then....it's about justice? cheesy grin
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 10:58pm On Jul 05, 2014
EnlightenedSoul:

[size=16pt]Fact[/size]: Pro-choice Feminists can be anti-abortion.

You still havent got with the program

Can someone explain to these ladies

A pro choice feminist can decide not to abort BUT NOT BECAUSE SHE FEELS ABORTION IS MURDER

damn...


Sophyrocks:
Pro choice or no pro choice, i do not give a damn about what anyone feminist or no feminist has to say about accepting abortion. If what is in a pregnant woman's womb is just a clump of cells, why get rid of those cells? Isnt it for the simple fact that you know too well there is life in it capable of developing into a full blown human? Why get rid or disrupt life growing in there? that clump of cells is LIFE!! You will only remember it a life when you really want a child from your wife? Come on!!!
Jeeeeeeeezzzzzzz. what a pathetic logic!

It sounds pathetic to you... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anyway you have said you are not a feminist so i will leave u to ruminate on the glaring absurdities of the school of thought that starts life does not begin at conception.

I just needed to correct your erroneous post that men sought out abortion.
Women fought for it.THEIR WOMB, THEIR CHOICE

grin grin grin grin
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by ifekemmy(f): 10:58pm On Jul 05, 2014
If a man tells woman to get an abortion and she refuses, why should he be forced to pay child support?

For instance, a man impregnated a woman and decides that he is not mentally, physically or financially able to support a child and tells the mother to go get an abortion and the woman refuses, why should the man have to pay child support?.

I mean if a woman decides to keep the baby, that's her decision, not the man's. The man made it clear that he didn't want the child then why should he have to take care of the child since it was the woman who wanted to keep it and not him?



@ Op, thank God u re a woman n if a man does dat to u, i hope u wil be happy to go for an abortion.

As per d topic, if a man is not capable financially, mentally n physically, den protect ursef or else u wil take d responsibility of d baby by all means. Abortion is not d best solution, it does more havoc dan good
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by XKZ(m): 10:58pm On Jul 05, 2014
coogar:

so feminism isn't about equality then....it's about justice? cheesy grin


To be honest, I don't know what feminism is about. That's why you haven't seen me use the word.
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 10:59pm On Jul 05, 2014
coogar:

so feminism isn't about equality then....it's about justice? cheesy grin


coogar i see u schooling... grin grin grin

Can u imagine we now have feminists with a conscience saying abortion is a big deal grin grin grin

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 11:01pm On Jul 05, 2014
XKZ:

To be honest, I don't know what feminism is. That's why you haven't seen me use the word.

it's a movement invented by the female angels in heaven. they preach equality only by the words of mouth - rarely by their actions.

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by XKZ(m): 11:02pm On Jul 05, 2014
coogar:

it's a movement invented by the female angels in heaven. they preach equality only by the words of mouth - rarely by their actions.


Thanks for the info. ☺
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:09pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1:

You still havent got with the program

Can someone explain to these ladies

A pro choice feminist can decide not to abort BUT NOT BECAUSE SHE FEELS ABORTION IS MURDER

damn...




It sounds pathetic to you... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Anyway you have said you are not a feminist so i will leave u to ruminate on the glaring absurdities of the school of thought that starts life does not begin at conception.

I just needed to correct your erroneous post that men sought out abortion.
Women fought for it.THEIR WOMB, THEIR CHOICE

grin grin grin grin

Whatever white women choose to do with their bodies is absolutely none of my bizwax. They can campaign for abortion for all i care. do you blame them? They have got options, the technologically advancement to sort themselves out when something wrong happens to their womb or fertility. whites do not carry giving birth to children on their heads like market women the way we do as Nigerians. In Nigeria, we still have ladies who fear abortions because of the risks involved.

And by the way, tone down on your obsession with feminists. Makes you look insecure. Dnt go around calling any female you see that disagrees with you a feminist.

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 11:11pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1:


coogar i see u schooling... grin grin grin

Can u imagine we now have feminists with a conscience saying abortion is a big deal grin grin grin

we have been told there are different levels of feminism here on NL. initially, it was measured in percentages. 50%, 60%, 80%, etc

later, they broke it into different idealisms. liberal, feminazis, socialist, cultural & eco-feminism, etc. by christmas, the tune might change again.
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:15pm On Jul 05, 2014
@Sophyrocks]

Im not obsessed my dear. the double standard is sickening...
Read what i have been saying since and understand
I dont have issues with others' opposing views rather i welcome discourse

Interesting now u say u dont care about white women and their bizwax, yet our women copy thier ideology without customisation or logic

Go figur... undecided undecided
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coogar:
we have been told there are different levels of feminism here on NL. initially, it was measured in percentages. 50%, 60%, 80%, etc
later, they broke it into different idealisms. liberal, feminazis, socialist, cultural & eco-feminism, etc. by christmas, the tune might change again.

There is also prolife, christian, ... very serpentine.. entering any hole which fits them
grin grin grin

I like babe!'s post.. very succint

Phew.... 15 more minites of Extra Time
Who will prevail.... Holland or Costa?

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by XKZ(m): 11:15pm On Jul 05, 2014
coogar:

we have been told there are different levels of feminism here on NL. initially, it was measured in percentages. 50%, 60%, 80%, etc

later, they broke it into different idealisms. liberal, feminazis, socialist, cultural & eco-feminism, etc.


L☺L.
And I thought you had it all sorted out...
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:23pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1:

You still havent got with the program

Can someone explain to these ladies

A pro choice feminist can decide not to abort BUT NOT BECAUSE SHE FEELS ABORTION IS MURDER



[size=18pt]YES, SHE CAN. [/size]

The reason she's pro-choice instead of pro life, is for the simple reason that she believes her opinions or anyone else's are not the determinant of such a decision FOR OTHERS, and that a woman has the faculty to decide, and take whatever stance she feels is morally right FOR HERSELF!

She CAN believe ABORTION is MURDER, and she can be ANTI-ABORTION, but she also believes her fellow woman has the right to make that CHOICE!

Hence PRO-CHOICE!!!!!

[size=14pt]You get it??

DAMN!!!!! [/size] smiley smiley

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:24pm On Jul 05, 2014
Godson201333: Nothing can work out fine in Nigeria,Bt abroad yes,Your greatest mistake is impregnating a lady that ya not gonna marry...I swear ya gonna pay child support for the rest of your fucking life..

Not true. You don't pay child support for life but only until the child is 18 years old.

Also even if you marry the person, if you divorce you still may pay.
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by soulglo: 11:29pm On Jul 05, 2014
swag loverss: If a man tells woman to get an abortion and she refuses, why should he be forced to pay child support?

For instance, a man impregnated a woman and decides that he is not mentally, physically or financially able to support a child and tells the mother to go get an abortion and the woman refuses, why should the man have to pay child support?.

I mean if a woman decides to keep the baby, that's her decision, not the man's. The man made it clear that he didn't want the child then why should he have to take care of the child since it was the woman who wanted to keep it and not him?

Whenever you have sex with someone you should be ready for whatever the consequences are. Kids, stds etc. He does not get to tell the woman to go have an abortion. He gave that away when he decided to sleep with her. Once the fetus is implanted it is a different story
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:30pm On Jul 05, 2014
Now u r getting yourself stuck in the mire of inconsistencies
How can u say abortion is murder and then say u are a prochoice activist?
I think u dont know what prochoice means and its not from allowing others to make their choice... wink

See more clowns here http://www.feministsforlife.org/question-abortion/


EnlightenedSoul:

[size=18pt]YES, SHE CAN. [/size]

The reason she's pro-choice instead of pro life, is for the simple reason that believes her opinions or anyone else's are not the determinant of such a decision FOR OTHERS, and that a woman has the faculty to decide, and take whatever stance she feels is morally right.

She can believe abortion is murder, and she can be ANTI-ABORTION, but she also believes her fellow woman has the right to make that CHOICE!

[size=14pt]You get it?

DAMN! [/size]
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:33pm On Jul 05, 2014
BABE!

I absolutely love your mentality. And you're like a sane mind in the midst of duffers, with harebrained opinions induced by the need to be part of something they deem "cool" - without any basic understanding of the concept.

I beg you help me show my e-friend, shollypopz, the right path to your righteousness.

Sholly, follow BABE's lead!!

Out!
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:36pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1: Now u r getting yourself stuck in the mire of inconsistencies
How can u say abortion is murder and then say u are a prochoice activist?
I think u dont know what prochoice means and its not from allowing others to make their choice... wink




[size=16pt]I just spent the last couple of hours explaining that to you![/size]

You're the clown here, sorry.
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:38pm On Jul 05, 2014
EnlightenedSoul:

[size=16pt]I just spent the last couple of hours explaining that to you![/size]

You're the clown here, sorry.



nahh.. you just been spouting inconsistencies.....
But its ok.. lets agreeto disagree


coogar .. penalties,,, can u call it
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by oathman(m): 11:39pm On Jul 05, 2014
Question 4 d gods[color=#006600][/color]
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:39pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1:

nahh.. you just been spouting inconsistencies.....

Clearly state the inconsistencies, please

I think u dont know what prochoice means and its not from allowing others to make their choice...

How does this sentence make any sense whatsoever lol
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 11:40pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1:

nahh.. you just been spouting inconsistencies.....
But its ok.. lets agreeto disagree


coogar .. penalties,,, can u call it

holland!
louis van gaal bringing krul in as a substitute is the biggest call i have ever seen. it has to be the right one otherwise........

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Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:40pm On Jul 05, 2014
Lets leave it at that

World Cup penalties!


EnlightenedSoul:

Clearly state the inconsistencies, please
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:41pm On Jul 05, 2014
I pray its a disaster

Costa deserve to go on sheer will alone

Borges scores!

1 nil

coogar:

holland!
louis van gaal bringing krul in as a substitute is the biggest call i have ever seen. it has to be the right one otherwise........
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 05, 2014
pickabeau1: Lets leave it at that

World Cup penalties!



Loool good one wink

Have a good day pickabeau smiley wink
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:44pm On Jul 05, 2014
EnlightenedSoul:

Loool good one wink

Have a good day pickabeau smiley wink

u 2


damn... costa rica miss one
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 11:48pm On Jul 05, 2014
louis van gaal is a genius!

for subbing a goalie in the extra time, it has to be the right decision. it has to be!
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 11:51pm On Jul 05, 2014
It just tells u how poor cilesen is
Krul himself is an average keeper

coogar: louis van gaal is a genius!

for subbing a goalie in the extra time, it has to be the right decision. it has to be!
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by coogar: 12:10am On Jul 06, 2014
pickabeau1: It just tells u how poor cilesen is
Krul himself is an average keeper

he's poor & he kept a clean sheet against a rampant costa rica side that pulverised italy & uruguay? give credits where it's due. some goalies are better at saving penalties than the others. if cillesen is poor, why is he starting for the dutch team?
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by pickabeau1: 12:19am On Jul 06, 2014
Yes.. poor at penalties.... i should have written d full ish

Hes obviouls the better shot stopper n aerially

coogar:

he's poor & he kept a clean sheet against a rampant costa rica side that pulverised italy & uruguay? give credits where it's due. some goalies are better at saving penalties than the others. if cillesen is poor, why is he starting for the dutch team?
Re: Should Men Be Forced To Pay For Kids They Didn't Want? by streetzdreamz(m): 12:52am On Jul 06, 2014
Sophyrocks:

These bolded points are what i have been hammering all along. But No, many of them you see here value e*j*a*c*u*lation than Human life. Just imagine what they are saying here. Upon all the risks involved in abortion, see many of them here advocating for it seriously!!! But the same men will reject a female who has had many abortions! If all females sleep with these men and abort, which womb will be left to go round? Helep me ask them ooo. And somebody here is still saying that Nobody has told him how bad abortion is upon all the cons mentioned here!!

Chai!! Tufiakwa!!! No value for human life and the female reproductive system!! How will they get children in the future if they continue like this with the high rate of infertility in the country?
they r d types dat can't date a lady without sex,no sex no relationship,nw at d long run the lady bcomes pregnant and dey start yelliNg,"I aint ready to become a father" go get an abortion done,and when she refuses den she shud bear d brunts alone..went tru some of ur posts n I must say u rili tried,dis guys r just alive buh dey aint living cuz dey'd use any means to justify dia evil deeds,buh honestly I blame d female folks dat subjects dia bodies to inhuman treatments from guys all in d name of love..if u aint ready to father a child den stay away from sex,its dat simple,no preventive measure is 100percent efficient,,,,,and if sex is ur daily food b ready to face d outcome...the guys screaming they can't be forced to cater for a child dey didn't want r all cowards cuz dey can't man up to dia responsibilities,most of em cajole dia ladies into aborting dia seeds and later tag em less human n marry someone elses,@d longrun wen karma comes knocking they'd come back crawling with dia family members to claim d child dey wanted dead wen *dey were nt ready* spineless critins dah thinks with dia dicks!!!

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